@@paparazzizi den Wind hört man schon ein bisschen, aber nicht so extrem stimmt, es gibt für die gopro solche schaum überzieher, sind auch nicht teuer 👍🏻
That head shake would worry me if i was on track but being an old bugger i will never go at that speed but it's a great video to watch knowing i have that power between my legs
Hi click uk - I get this on the road sometimes 😉 I have my first track day coming up at the end of the month and the steering wobble is a worry! EDIT - The more I watched the video the more I realised that this is going to happen to me on the track too and I don't like the look of it... so I just bought an Ohlins steering damper 😊
@@MAYBE12FLY I fitted the Ohlins steering damper before I got the track so I can't say how the standard unit would have behaved. The Ohlins helps on the road though!
Great riding dfmodels82. There is a distinct wobble between 150km-160km. I have it on mine (I have 2019 s1000r). I don't know what to do about that but you rode extremely well. Great stuff. All the pre-2021 s1000r models are the ducks nuts. It's a shame the 2021 'update' didn't evolve what was an awesome platform. It needed more torque & HP. 120NM of torque & 170HP were figures that are achievable with the s1000rr engine platform. The s1000r should be the hyper-naked of its big brother (the s1000rr) whilst keeping pace with KTM, Ducati & Aprilia who have all produced true "hyper-naked" models for 2021+. BMW have let themselves down & the entire concept of the s1000r with their update. I hope they correct themselves asap.
Ohlins steering dampener will eliminate all the head shake. When I first got mine, it hat consistent head shake was the only real limiting factor of the motorcycle- and my skill... The ohlins give such confidence. Have not experienced head shake since installing it. Had to play with settings for a few rides. 7 clicks from 0 will be the perfect setting. Complete eliminated head shake at any speed, however takes some time to be conditioned to the very heavy steering at slow speed. If you let someone ride your bike, you must warn them of the heavy steering or they will tip over at low speed. It’s a trade off worth making. It completes an otherwise perfect motorcycle.
@@michaelscott761 So to solve the 'wobble' you create another problem, heavy steering at low speeds. It's a plaster over a crack! You expect BMW to be a premium brand, none of the other hypers have this problem as a regular part of the machine.
Da sieht man mal wie gut die single R funktioniert. Drehmoment unten raus ist einfach überlegen. Durch Sitzposition wird es dann vorne sehr leicht, so dass das Vorderrad in Schwingung kommt. Oben raus ist sie dann früher am Limit. Aber geiles Bike und Hammer Aufholjagt. Welche Reifen hattest Montiert??
Ja die s1r läuft richtig gut, klar das die ab 200 gegen die Supersportler schwächelt, aber in Sachen händling gewinnt sie, ja das mit dem Vorderrad is so ne Sache, reifen war der s21 von Bridgestone, Ansicht ein guter reifen, nur für die Rennstrecke der falsche, zum zeiten jagen muss was richtiges her, ansonsten bin ich sehr zufrieden mit der s1r.
Lots of questions on the high speed wobble. I had the same problem with my 2014 S1000R. Turned out my front wheel bearings needed changing as did my front tyre. These bikes are good for 150mph+ without any head wobble. Its a horrible feeling and really detracts from the pleasure of enjoying the bike when you open it up. Change the bearings and that will solve alot of the issues.
@@dfmodels82 Hmmm ... I don't think its the tire pressure ... it was wobbling a lot with my bike and when I install a ohlins steering damper it became less but ... it's still wobbling only when cornering if I grab the wheels too hard. yet its a Naked bike so it is a lil bit harder to control compared with the super sportbike. anyway. thanks a lot my friend ... enjoy .. its a lovely bike.
@@simonedeturris3704 Oh it happen with u too ... may I know your weight ? I tried every thing with this bike ... Ohlin steering Damper .. dynamic pro Mode ... lowering the front a lil like 5 mm only .. and still wobbling on high speed cornering. Thinking to sell the bike now.
dfmodels82 That is pretty bad. Maybe you shoud check the tyre pressure. If this is getting worst you might enter into a dangerous wobble and it’s hard to control it...
@@raducordosan1047 yes I turned to an instruckor, he didn't mean to hold the handlebar so tight, but it didn't make it any better, I think it was the tire
Weis jemand wiso bei den Naked Motorrädern immer der Lenker so wackelt ? Ich dachte immer, es wäre je nach Motorrad aber nun stammt die S1000R ja von der RR ab und die sollen ja in vielen Dingen fast baugleich sein und auch bei ihm sieht man wie der Tacho hin und her wackelt... Die haben doch Lenkungsdämpfer um das zu verhindern, oder ?
Eigendlich vollkommen richtig, allerdings liegt das hier am reifen, mit dem k3 hatte ich diese Probleme nicht, und vergleichen mit supersportlern ist immer schwierig, da man bei nem nakedbike immer voll im Wind hängt, das kann durchaus zu Unruhe führen.
@@dfmodels82 Klingt plausibel, andererseits kanns das ja nicht sein, dass ich bei einem 23.000,- Bike einen bestimmten Reifen fahren muss um Lenkerpendeln zu vermeiden . Ich hatte eigentlich die 2021er S1000R im Visier, dein Video hat mich jetzt davon eher abgebracht, zumal ich auch gelegentlich Ring fahren möchte....
@@ThePolarisalfa ja so kann man das auch nicht sehen, im forum gabs viele die das problem nicht hatten, liegt eventuell an mehreren Faktoren, viele meinten auch ich halte mich zu dolle am lenker fest, dann bin ich sehr klein, und bekomme so wenig Druck auf das Vorderrad eventuell noch paar Sachen die es zusammen so kompliziert machen.
@@dfmodels82 Dankeschön für die Info. Ich hatte fünf Jahre Pause und hatte bis 2015 eine s1000rr. Bin mit der 1:55min gefahren. Hab seid letztem Jahr eine Speed Triple.
Gorilla Kanga Gorilla Kanga I’m running 36 front and rear. What about you? Another tip was hold your body closes to the bike to reduce air resistance and increase aerodynamic. Maybe it was made up to make me look ridiculous riding in full tuck 😂
A perfect demonstration of why I will not be buying an S1000R, a bike out of the box that has the common problem of wobble like this..........no thanks!!
I am a heavier guy and have NEVER had a head shake issue with my ‘17 s1000r, on track or road. My R has the non-electronic suspension, which I chose because of reports the electronic suspenders made the front end lack feel for heavier riders as it kept on recalibrating to adjust for the heavier mass.
@@brianglendenning1632 just bought a 19 plate....5 weeks ago. The wobble at first was frightening. If what you say is true about the electronic suspension then surely it BMW have to recall. It is dangerous for i feel uncomfortable heading into a corner and feeling the bars shaking rapidly. No pro racer would accept such a bike.
@@teddd10 I am not sure the absence of head wobble on my “analog” S1000R is because it does not have the active suspension or something else. It is just not something I have experienced, and I have been mindful of it because I have read the complaints by other s1000r owners. For my part I have found the s1000r to be a smooth, highly responsive, predictable and confidence inspiring bike, and for all those reasons I have kept it for 43000km because until recently nothing else on the market appealed. I have ridden it in ways that you would expect the issue to have arisen - that said, my riding style (whatever the pace) tends to be smooth than snappy. I would recommend getting someone to look at your steering damper (I assume it is the same on the active and non-active suspended versions).
Love the guy in red who blitzes past at 10:00 - great video
Bester S1000R Sound im ganzen Netz. Ich muss es mir immer wieder anhören 😍
Dank dir 😉
@@dfmodels82 wie hast du den Ton aufgenommen, ohne windegeräusche? Echt gut 👍. Danke für info
@@paparazzizi den Wind hört man schon ein bisschen, aber nicht so extrem stimmt, es gibt für die gopro solche schaum überzieher, sind auch nicht teuer 👍🏻
Geile Runde! Lenker wackelt ziemlich heftig.
Wackelt brutal.
Geiles Video. Muss unbedingt auch mal auf Rennstrecke! 😉
Dann mach das, kann es nur empfehlen
I track my s1000r and although the head shaking looks bad, it’s still great fun. Cadwell is my fave track and perfect for that bike
That head shake would worry me if i was on track but being an old bugger i will never go at that speed but it's a great video to watch knowing i have that power between my legs
Hi click uk - I get this on the road sometimes 😉 I have my first track day coming up at the end of the month and the steering wobble is a worry!
EDIT - The more I watched the video the more I realised that this is going to happen to me on the track too and I don't like the look of it... so I just bought an Ohlins steering damper 😊
@@RikkyTang My s1000r wobbled more on the highway than it did on the track
@@MAYBE12FLY I fitted the Ohlins steering damper before I got the track so I can't say how the standard unit would have behaved. The Ohlins helps on the road though!
nice driving!
Thx
Rip that S1000R on, great stuff.
Sweet overtake at 14:28 👍
Thx
👍👍👍
Great riding dfmodels82. There is a distinct wobble between 150km-160km. I have it on mine (I have 2019 s1000r). I don't know what to do about that but you rode extremely well. Great stuff. All the pre-2021 s1000r models are the ducks nuts. It's a shame the 2021 'update' didn't evolve what was an awesome platform. It needed more torque & HP. 120NM of torque & 170HP were figures that are achievable with the s1000rr engine platform. The s1000r should be the hyper-naked of its big brother (the s1000rr) whilst keeping pace with KTM, Ducati & Aprilia who have all produced true "hyper-naked" models for 2021+. BMW have let themselves down & the entire concept of the s1000r with their update. I hope they correct themselves asap.
Ohlins steering dampener will eliminate all the head shake. When I first got mine, it hat consistent head shake was the only real limiting factor of the motorcycle- and my skill...
The ohlins give such confidence. Have not experienced head shake since installing it. Had to play with settings for a few rides. 7 clicks from 0 will be the perfect setting. Complete eliminated head shake at any speed, however takes some time to be conditioned to the very heavy steering at slow speed. If you let someone ride your bike, you must warn them of the heavy steering or they will tip over at low speed. It’s a trade off worth making. It completes an otherwise perfect motorcycle.
@@michaelscott761 So to solve the 'wobble' you create another problem, heavy steering at low speeds. It's a plaster over a crack!
You expect BMW to be a premium brand, none of the other hypers have this problem as a regular part of the machine.
Da sieht man mal wie gut die single R funktioniert. Drehmoment unten raus ist einfach überlegen.
Durch Sitzposition wird es dann vorne sehr leicht, so dass das Vorderrad in Schwingung kommt.
Oben raus ist sie dann früher am Limit. Aber geiles Bike und Hammer Aufholjagt.
Welche Reifen hattest Montiert??
Ja die s1r läuft richtig gut, klar das die ab 200 gegen die Supersportler schwächelt, aber in Sachen händling gewinnt sie, ja das mit dem Vorderrad is so ne Sache, reifen war der s21 von Bridgestone, Ansicht ein guter reifen, nur für die Rennstrecke der falsche, zum zeiten jagen muss was richtiges her, ansonsten bin ich sehr zufrieden mit der s1r.
Lots of questions on the high speed wobble. I had the same problem with my 2014 S1000R. Turned out my front wheel bearings needed changing as did my front tyre. These bikes are good for 150mph+ without any head wobble. Its a horrible feeling and really detracts from the pleasure of enjoying the bike when you open it up. Change the bearings and that will solve alot of the issues.
hey thanks for the tip but i don't own the bmw anymore am back to triumph
@@dfmodels82 hi..i what triumph did you get? How did it compare to the s100r? Cheers
@@scuddy100HYA Hey, I got the 765RS, I'm just a fan of the great 3 cylinder engine, the handling is of course much better with 186 kg
@@dfmodels82 is that the speed triple or street triple?
@@scuddy100HYA street triple;-)
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Thanks for the video ... why the bike wobble a lot ? is this normal ... this happen to me on cornering aswell .
Hey, I think maybe it comes from the tire or it is the wrong air pressure. but I do not know for sure.
@@dfmodels82 Hmmm ... I don't think its the tire pressure ... it was wobbling a lot with my bike and when I install a ohlins steering damper it became less but ... it's still wobbling only when cornering if I grab the wheels too hard. yet its a Naked bike so it is a lil bit harder to control compared with the super sportbike. anyway. thanks a lot my friend ... enjoy .. its a lovely bike.
dfmodels82 in which mode are you ridding? Mine is wobbling a lot too..still able to keep up with supersports
@@simonedeturris3704 i drive in dynamic Mode
@@simonedeturris3704 Oh it happen with u too ... may I know your weight ? I tried every thing with this bike ... Ohlin steering Damper .. dynamic pro Mode ... lowering the front a lil like 5 mm only .. and still wobbling on high speed cornering. Thinking to sell the bike now.
Why is your front end moving left/right after rising from a corner under hard acceleration?
I dont know.....
dfmodels82 That is pretty bad. Maybe you shoud check the tyre pressure. If this is getting worst you might enter into a dangerous wobble and it’s hard to control it...
@@raducordosan1047 changed the air pressure several times but it didn't get better
dfmodels82 Weird... that behavior is not normal. Maybe you should check with someone more experienced... just a thought
@@raducordosan1047 yes I turned to an instruckor, he didn't mean to hold the handlebar so tight, but it didn't make it any better, I think it was the tire
Was hast du denn für Lenker Flattern ?
Ja war schon heftig ;-)
Weis jemand wiso bei den Naked Motorrädern immer der Lenker so wackelt ? Ich dachte immer, es wäre je nach Motorrad aber nun stammt die S1000R ja von der RR ab und die sollen ja in vielen Dingen fast baugleich sein und auch bei ihm sieht man wie der Tacho hin und her wackelt... Die haben doch Lenkungsdämpfer um das zu verhindern, oder ?
Eigendlich vollkommen richtig, allerdings liegt das hier am reifen, mit dem k3 hatte ich diese Probleme nicht, und vergleichen mit supersportlern ist immer schwierig, da man bei nem nakedbike immer voll im Wind hängt, das kann durchaus zu Unruhe führen.
@@dfmodels82 Klingt plausibel, andererseits kanns das ja nicht sein, dass ich bei einem 23.000,- Bike einen bestimmten Reifen fahren muss um Lenkerpendeln zu vermeiden . Ich hatte eigentlich die 2021er S1000R im Visier, dein Video hat mich jetzt davon eher abgebracht, zumal ich auch gelegentlich Ring fahren möchte....
@@ThePolarisalfa ja so kann man das auch nicht sehen, im forum gabs viele die das problem nicht hatten, liegt eventuell an mehreren Faktoren, viele meinten auch ich halte mich zu dolle am lenker fest, dann bin ich sehr klein, und bekomme so wenig Druck auf das Vorderrad eventuell noch paar Sachen die es zusammen so kompliziert machen.
Darf ich nach den rundenzeiten fragen! Ich bin in 4 Wochen zum ersten Mal mit nem naked Bike auf der Strecke.
Aber klar doch;-)
Schnellste war ne 02:03, wäre mit den richtigen Reifen bestimmt noch mehr gegangen, na dann mal viel Spaß beim fahren.....
@@dfmodels82 Dankeschön für die Info. Ich hatte fünf Jahre Pause und hatte bis 2015 eine s1000rr. Bin mit der 1:55min gefahren. Hab seid letztem Jahr eine Speed Triple.
@@lukasluther3752 speedy is auch sehr geil, ja lass es entspannt angehen und gut is, zeit is 2 rangig.
People change to tires with smaller circumference and may cause this shaking
I think you are holding too tight on the handle bar. Probably because of the wind. Try to let it go and the head won't shake that much. Great video 👌
I got the same wobble going fast like that. I tried lightening up the grip, it didn't do much even after upgrading to Ohlins steering damper.
@@chenchen8597 what tire pressure are you running? I didn't have to upgrade to öhlins. And I sure had that wobbt in the beginning, but it's gone now.
Yes, that's what the instructor said, but unfortunately it didn't get any better
@@dfmodels82 You have DDC so try puttin the setting to the 2 helmets. Hope this helps
Gorilla Kanga Gorilla Kanga I’m running 36 front and rear. What about you?
Another tip was hold your body closes to the bike to reduce air resistance and increase aerodynamic. Maybe it was made up to make me look ridiculous riding in full tuck 😂
Hi auf welchen fahrmodi bist du gefahren?
Hey
Ich bin eigentlich immer im sportmodus unterwegs gewesen.
Also nicht Dynamik Plus?
@@dimiriebel46 war das nicht der Modus wo man alles selbst einstellen konnte, bzw wo die tc aus war?
Also ich war immer vor dem letzten Modus.
@@dimiriebel46 gerade mal nachgelesen der Dynamik pro Modus ging nur mit dem Stick, den hatte ich drinne, aber bin immer im Dynamik Modus gefahren.
5:33 !!!!!
Schau mal das du mehr Druck aufs Vorderrad bringst, dann ist schluss mit dem Gewabbel in der Front
A perfect demonstration of why I will not be buying an S1000R, a bike out of the box that has the common problem of wobble like this..........no thanks!!
Schade das die S1000R das Problem mit dem Pendeln hat dürfte in der Preisklasse nicht vorkommen inklusive DDC wenn Ichs richtig gesehen habe
Ich denke das es an den Reifen gelegen hat, mit den k3 hatte ich das Problem nicht
hatte ich auch gleiches bike beim s21, beim s22 wurde es etwas besser, aber sollte trotzdem nicht sein.
加速すると、ハンドルがプルプルすんのか、BMW!
You are holding on to tight on your handlebars thats wy its wobling
Not necessarily...it is a well known problem for the S1000R and needs some adjusting to suspension if he is a heavier guy.
My old BMW K100RT used to get the old slank tapper on dodgy road :D
I am a heavier guy and have NEVER had a head shake issue with my ‘17 s1000r, on track or road. My R has the non-electronic suspension, which I chose because of reports the electronic suspenders made the front end lack feel for heavier riders as it kept on recalibrating to adjust for the heavier mass.
@@brianglendenning1632 just bought a 19 plate....5 weeks ago.
The wobble at first was frightening.
If what you say is true about the electronic suspension then surely it BMW have to recall.
It is dangerous for i feel uncomfortable heading into a corner and feeling the bars shaking rapidly.
No pro racer would accept such a bike.
@@teddd10 I am not sure the absence of head wobble on my “analog” S1000R is because it does not have the active suspension or something else. It is just not something I have experienced, and I have been mindful of it because I have read the complaints by other s1000r owners. For my part I have found the s1000r to be a smooth, highly responsive, predictable and confidence inspiring bike, and for all those reasons I have kept it for 43000km because until recently nothing else on the market appealed. I have ridden it in ways that you would expect the issue to have arisen - that said, my riding style (whatever the pace) tends to be smooth than snappy. I would recommend getting someone to look at your steering damper (I assume it is the same on the active and non-active suspended versions).
Regulagem de suspensão tudo errada,ridículo continuar assim.
Suspension is Stock 80-90kg