Solving A Quick and Easy Logarithmic Equation

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  • @volsyb
    @volsyb 2 года назад +54

    It’s enough to know this identity a^log b = b^log a. And you can solve it in seconds.

    • @yosefrustom5213
      @yosefrustom5213 2 года назад +3

      Exactly. İ did it in this way , so much better

    • @spiderjerusalem4009
      @spiderjerusalem4009 2 года назад +2

      nver knew that there was such iidentity. Still managed to solve it though. Thanks for the info

    • @rajasekhark8333
      @rajasekhark8333 2 года назад +1

      But isn't that incorrect? Please check it. A power b is not the same as b power a

    • @yosefrustom5213
      @yosefrustom5213 2 года назад +1

      @@rajasekhark8333 yes but with the "log" it is the same , you can check

    • @kasimabi8964
      @kasimabi8964 2 года назад +2

      @@rajasekhark8333 a^logb=b^loga is correct,but a^b is not = to b^a

  • @udbhaw1692
    @udbhaw1692 2 года назад +8

    Alternative method:-
    a^log b=b^log a
    Here, x^log 25=25^log x=k
    given, x^log 25+25^log x=10
    k+k=10,
    k=5
    Now compare 25^log x=5
    (5)² ^ log x=5
    5^log x²=5
    log x²=1
    x²=10
    x=√10.
    Thank you ☺☺

  • @gniedu
    @gniedu 2 года назад +21

    In 1st method when you have 10^(y*log 25) you could simply make (10^log 25)^y, which turns to 25^y. You would then have 25^y + 25^y = 10, which leads to y=1/2. Just a shortcut. Anyway great video

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад +2

      That's right! Thank you!

  • @snejpu2508
    @snejpu2508 2 года назад +17

    Hey, when you have 10^logz + z = 10, you do not need a substitution for t, because 10^logz is just z. So, 2z=10, z=5 straight. Another substitution leads to final result, but it is just like z=t after all. But cool problem, I wasn't trying to solve it. : )

  • @hedayaty
    @hedayaty 2 года назад +7

    Using identity x^(log_b n) = n^(log_b x) makes it really easy!
    Basically identity says both terms are the same. They you have two methods, use x in the base or in the exponent.
    1st method:
    x^log 25 + 25^log x = 25^log x + 25^log x = 2 * 25^log x = 10 => 5^2.log x = 5 => x=sqrt(10)
    2nd method:
    x^log 25 + 25^log x = x^log 25 + x^log 25 = 2 * x^25 x = 10 => x^log25 = 5 => ... =>x=sqrt(10)

  • @musicsubicandcebu1774
    @musicsubicandcebu1774 2 года назад +2

    The essence of solving this problem is realizing that the two terms on left side are equal.

  • @vishalmishra3046
    @vishalmishra3046 2 года назад +3

    a^log(b) and b^log(a) are equal since their logs are log(b).log(a) = log(a).log(b). Therefore each term is 10/2 = 5. Taking log, we get -
    log(5) = log(x)log(25 = 5^2) = 2.log(x).log(5) => log(x) = 1/2 => x = 10^.5 = sqrt(10)

    • @POLMAZURKA
      @POLMAZURKA 2 года назад

      ?

    • @Skank_and_Gutterboy
      @Skank_and_Gutterboy 2 года назад

      Funny, I saw the same thing. Before even starting the problem, I played around a little with the idea of taking the logarithm of both quantities on the left side of the problem equation, I was kinda brainstorming and kinda daydreaming. I realized that log(x^(log(25)) and log(25^(log(x))) both yield log(x)*log(25), so they're equivalent. log(x)*log(25) = log(5) is a MUCH easier problem to solve.

  • @mirkopacchioni4158
    @mirkopacchioni4158 2 года назад +3

    The first method reminded me of the film inception, a replacement within a replacement within another one, very interesting. Nice video as always.

  • @chanlyelee
    @chanlyelee 2 года назад

    Interesting question and nice solutions. Thanks for sharing!

  • @zygoloid
    @zygoloid 2 года назад +2

    It's a standard log property that x^log y = y^log x.
    Proof: x^log_b y = (b^log_b x)^log_b y = b^(log_b x * log_b y) = (b^log_b y)^log_b x = y^log_b x

  • @JoeTaxpayer
    @JoeTaxpayer 2 года назад

    This one was fun, just saw it. Good work.

  • @piman9280
    @piman9280 2 года назад

    "I'll be presenting two methods - let's start with the first one." Impeccable logic!

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад

      😁

    • @piman9280
      @piman9280 2 года назад

      @@SyberMath As a retired maths teacher, I always did my best to inject humour into my lessons and show that maths can be fun. I enjoy your presentations - they bring back memories.

  • @justabunga1
    @justabunga1 2 года назад +1

    Another method besides what I saw from here is to use the properties of exponent/logarithm using the base and exponent to switch. The equation turns into 25^log(x)+25^log(x)=10. This means that 2(25^log(x))=10. Dividing both sides by 2 gives you 25^log(x)=5. Turn the left side of the equation as (5^2)^log(x)=5. Since the base are the same, then the exponents are equal to each other. Using properties of exponent, 2log(x)=1. Dividing both sides by 2 is going to be log(x)=1/2. Therefore, x=10^(1/2)=√(10).

    • @s_alexander_n
      @s_alexander_n 2 года назад

      It took you (and me, too) just 30 secs to solve, but him... 9:26...

  • @hectordpg2695
    @hectordpg2695 Год назад

    Amazing video as always!

  • @elias69420
    @elias69420 2 года назад +3

    Let log(x) = y, then x = 10^y.
    So (10^y)^log(25) + 25^y = 10
    10^[log(25)*y] + 25^y = 10
    10^log(25^y) + 25^y = 10
    25^y + 25^y = 10
    25^y = 5, which means y = 1/2.
    But x = 10^y, so x = 10^(1/2) = sqrt(10)
    Nice.

  • @user-nr3yb3ki9p
    @user-nr3yb3ki9p 2 года назад

    Thanks for this logarithmic equation :) i just like this kind of equations )) thanks for your videos and solutions ))

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад

      Oh np! Thank you! 💖

  • @ahmadmazbouh
    @ahmadmazbouh 2 года назад

    0:55 i totally agree with you here

  • @getjinxed7231
    @getjinxed7231 2 года назад

    a ^log (b) = b ^log (a), which means 25 log x + 25 log x = 10 25 log x = 5 , log x = 1/2 since 25^1/2 = 5, and then we ge t the x = 10 ^1/2

  • @philipkudrna5643
    @philipkudrna5643 2 года назад

    Two Z or not two z! Hillarious! I like that you comment it as if you were just solving it as you speak instead of choosing the more professor-like approach…!

  • @rayaneblii1281
    @rayaneblii1281 2 года назад +1

    U'r amazing with ur multiple methods

  • @marciorenis
    @marciorenis 2 года назад

    Awesome!

  • @mikelfunesmorfin9331
    @mikelfunesmorfin9331 2 года назад +1

    Hey there, i'm a big fan of your videos, and i've been watching for a while now, but i was wondering if you could maybe do one in how to solve 2^n > 2n+1

  • @social6332
    @social6332 2 года назад

    thank you for your amazing video!

  • @Ozymandi_as
    @Ozymandi_as 2 года назад

    a^log(b) → log(b).log(a) →b^log(a)
    Gives the general identity:
    a^log(b) = b^log(a)

  • @mohamedibrahim1023
    @mohamedibrahim1023 2 года назад

    I really liked the methods and there is also a good and neat property of logarithm says that a^log base b of c. =c^log base b of a ,,, which can also solve this problem

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад +1

      Absolutely! That would be a good way to approach it!

  • @roberttelarket4934
    @roberttelarket4934 2 года назад +1

    Very very very clever!!!

  • @ahmadmazbouh
    @ahmadmazbouh 2 года назад

    what a problem!!!! very interesting

  • @tanxros
    @tanxros 2 года назад

    After watching a couple of your videos
    I got to know that you're a big big fan of Substituting terms with other variables

  • @mahmoudalbahar1641
    @mahmoudalbahar1641 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for your great videos...
    And I want to ask you:
    I found from wolfram alpha that
    sum of k^(-k) from k=1 to k=infinity is: 1.29129 but why?

    • @threstytorres4306
      @threstytorres4306 2 года назад

      So Unique and doesnt even have a close form except for 129129/10000

  • @seamanreal3862
    @seamanreal3862 2 года назад

    Show de bola!!!

  • @dariosilva85
    @dariosilva85 2 года назад +2

    10^(log(z)) = z. What was that long detour?

    • @RisetotheEquation
      @RisetotheEquation 2 года назад

      All videos > 8 min can have midroll ads and that boosts his revenue.

  • @FarhadJahani
    @FarhadJahani 2 года назад +1

    excellent 😃

  • @lori2364
    @lori2364 2 года назад

    Over 40k views this one, the thumbnail s working great!

  • @shauryasingh5379
    @shauryasingh5379 2 года назад

    Using the property
    a^log(b) = b^log(a) , you could write the equation as
    25^logx + 25^logx = 10
    => 25^logx = 5 = 25^(1/2)
    => logx = 1/2
    => x = root(10)
    :D

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding9792 2 года назад

    Some people write log to mean log to base e (which is also denoted as ln)

  • @yoav613
    @yoav613 2 года назад

    Nice,well done!(10^logx)^log25+25^logx=10
    (10^log25)^logx+25^logx=10,5^(2logx)=5,2logx=1 so logx=0 5 and x=sqrt10.

  • @pwmiles56
    @pwmiles56 2 года назад

    log(x^log(y))=log(x)*log(y)=log(y^(log(x)) => x^log(y)=y^log(x), for log to any base. Ha ha, very nice misdirection, why did I find it so hard?

  • @oscarfranciscosantanafranc8948
    @oscarfranciscosantanafranc8948 2 года назад

    Great, my congratulations! Can you make an video explaining how to solve Integral (tang(x))^(1/2)dx please?

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад

      Hi, thanks! You're not the first person to ask that! 😁
      Here's a video that @blackpenredpen made:
      ruclips.net/video/6v0QqJ87gdM/видео.html

  • @adandap
    @adandap 2 года назад +2

    I thought both these methods were more complicated than they needed to be. Write x^(log25) = 10^[log(x^(log25))] = 10^(log25 logx) = 25^(logx) and then finish it off.

  • @dariosilva85
    @dariosilva85 2 года назад +1

    10^(log(z)) = z. What was that long detour for?

  • @nicogehren6566
    @nicogehren6566 2 года назад

    nice solution

  • @UKPEINDANIELU.
    @UKPEINDANIELU. 2 месяца назад

    Fantastic

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 месяца назад

      Thank you so much 😀

  • @ahmadmazbouh
    @ahmadmazbouh 2 года назад

    congrats for your 70k btw

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад

      Thank you so much 😀

  • @rooseveltpantaleonvara9489
    @rooseveltpantaleonvara9489 2 года назад

    I think a third method would be the following:
    let 10 = 5 + 25^(1/2)
    x^(log(25)) + 25^(log(x)) = 5 + 25^(1/2)
    then I can solve for each term:
    x^(log(25)) = 5
    x = 5^(1/log(25))
    25^log(x) = 25^(1/2)
    log(x)=1/2
    x = 10^(1/2)
    btw I like your videos they're amazing

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад

      Good thinking! Thanks

  • @Sunil-mr2hf
    @Sunil-mr2hf Год назад +1

    How can you assume two different numbers equal to t. ?

  • @jacquesteller490
    @jacquesteller490 2 года назад

    Hi Syb, instead of using log base 10, why not trying log base 25 ? If I am right, this should give a nicer result.
    Besides that, thank you for this very cool channel.

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад

      That's right! Thank you!

  • @shahinjahanlu2199
    @shahinjahanlu2199 2 года назад

    Thx

  • @karryy01
    @karryy01 2 года назад

    As everyone said, I solved it in 6 seconds.
    It's easy to know that 25^logx=x^log25
    So 25^logx=5
    logx=1/2
    x=(∛1000)^0.5

  • @user-dz6pi4sm8u
    @user-dz6pi4sm8u 2 года назад

    Both methods are nice.

  • @user-we5vy6zz7t
    @user-we5vy6zz7t 2 года назад

    Moreover, you can notice that on the left function is increasing everywhere. So you can find a solution yourself. This is my the third method.
    Thank you very much!

  • @ahmadmazbouh
    @ahmadmazbouh 2 года назад

    you must be happy with all of these substitutions (i hope so)

  • @zholud
    @zholud 2 года назад

    Sqrt(10) - easy guess and monotonicity finishes the proof

  • @broytingaravsol
    @broytingaravsol 2 года назад +1

    √10

  • @raivogrunbaum4801
    @raivogrunbaum4801 2 года назад

    If a>0 b>0 then a^logb=b^loga x^log25+25^logx=10 2×25^logx=10 25^logx=5 logx ×log 5 25=1 logx=1/2 x=sqrt10

  • @user-fq4gu3gm9z
    @user-fq4gu3gm9z 11 месяцев назад

    set x^log25=t log25*logx=logt so logx=logt/log25 25^(logt/log25)=t so 2t=10 t=5 so x^log25=5 log25*logx=log5 log x= 1/2 x=10^(1/2)

  • @kimsanov
    @kimsanov 2 года назад

    Isn’t 10^logZ is equal to simple Z?

  • @scarecr0w384
    @scarecr0w384 2 года назад

    I was taught in school that log(10)x=lgx and logx is a syntax error

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад +1

      Some countries use different notations unfortunately.

  • @oahuhawaii2141
    @oahuhawaii2141 2 года назад

    x^log(25) + 25^log(x) = 10
    Note 1: log[x^log(25)] = log(x)*log(25) = log(x)*2*log(5)
    Note 2: log[25^log(x)] = log(25)*log(x) = 2*log(5)*log(x)
    Both terms equal!
    2*25^log(x) = 10
    25^log(x) = 5
    log(x) = 1/2
    x = sqrt(10)

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 2 года назад

      Also ...
      x^log(25) + 25^log(x) = 10
      With log(x) in equation, we know x > 0.
      Thus, we know 10^log(x) = x . Substituting, we have:
      (10^log(x))^log(25) + 25^log(x) = 10
      10^(log(x)*log(25)) + 25^log(x) = 10
      10^(log(25)*log(x)) + 25^log(x) = 10
      (10^log(25))^log(x) + 25^log(x) = 10
      25^log(x) + 25^log(x) = 10
      25^log(x) = 5
      5^(2*log(x)) = 5
      2*log(x)) = 1
      log(x) = 1/2
      x = sqrt(10)

  • @paulmiller6647
    @paulmiller6647 2 года назад

    One of Newton's best works.

  • @moeberry8226
    @moeberry8226 2 года назад +2

    Another perfect video.

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад

      Wow, thank you! 😍

  • @eeshnaugraiya9296
    @eeshnaugraiya9296 2 года назад +1

    Noice!!! Sybermath
    May this channel reach 1M subscribers soon!!!

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад +1

      Thank you! 💖😊

  • @petereziagor4604
    @petereziagor4604 2 года назад

    Just watched this video for the second time

  • @josemartinho424
    @josemartinho424 2 года назад +2

    Amazing!!!

  • @chanvannak3591
    @chanvannak3591 2 года назад

    🎉❤️❤️❤️

  • @giuseppemalaguti435
    @giuseppemalaguti435 2 года назад

    X=sqrt(e)

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад +1

      log is base 10 😉😁

  • @-basicmaths862
    @-basicmaths862 2 года назад

    x=√10

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад

      why?

    • @-basicmaths862
      @-basicmaths862 2 года назад

      @@SyberMath x^log25=m
      log (x^log25)=logm
      log25*logx=logm. ______1
      25^logx=n
      log (25^logx)=log n
      log x*log 25=log n
      This shows m=n
      2*25^logx=10
      25^logx=5
      (5^2)^logx=5
      5^2logx=5
      2logx=1
      logx=1/2
      x=10^12=√10

  • @sphakamisozondi
    @sphakamisozondi 2 года назад

    *"Logo-exponential"*
    Sounds like a dog breed

  • @S.F663
    @S.F663 2 года назад

    .nice🙏🙏

  • @DaveCubby1
    @DaveCubby1 10 месяцев назад

    x^(log 25) + x^(log 25) = 10
    2 (x^(log 25)) = 10
    x^(log 25) = 5
    log x^(log 25) = log 5
    (log 25)(log x) = log 5
    log x = log 5 / log 25
    log x = log 5 / log 5²
    log x = log 5 / 2 log 5
    log x = ½
    x = 10^(½)
    x = √10

  • @damiennortier8942
    @damiennortier8942 2 года назад

    If you told log with base 25 it's easier 😂 : x = 5

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  2 года назад

      That's right, Damien!

  • @wernischluep7352
    @wernischluep7352 6 месяцев назад

    your videos are very informative. but you can make them much better using only m and n as variables. in order to avoid these annoying singings and puns about be, are, to you, why, tea and coffee. they're not useful and they neither gain sense by endless repetition.
    aside of that i like the videos very much!

  • @marshalls36
    @marshalls36 2 года назад

    好,奖 1 万元