I salute justice Nariman for the great presentation of the facts and the reality of the functioning of the courts in India and misuse of the Constitution and judicial systems for personal gains.
Justice Nariman sir very well explained. Even an ordinary person understood whatever you said on this platform. Please continue your efforts in this sphere as it is very important to awake the educated citizens who are playing in the hands of this illegitimate communal government. Please conduct such important talks in various platforms all over India and also outside India. My sincere regards to you.
Salute this brilliant Rtd Judge of the SC who upheld the constitutional rights during his tenure and he has been very vocal on many issues that infringe the basic structure of our Constitution
This Former Hon'ble should be honoured. Sharing the truth in these times when Nagpur HO has seeded hatred in many hearts, isn't an easy task. This Sir's knowledge to be made use of well by INC.
Why do you think so ? Does it gives you sadistic pleasure to get after the Muslims in India ? How does Waqf effects your day to day life ? If I being a Muslim give away property as charity to used for the development of my community which is termed as "Waqf" , why does it require your intervention being none to any book of accounts ..it is painful to find people like you with unnecessary provocation just simply for your pleasure bully minorities as you( Majority) wrest the power ..
😂😂 now zoroasters are also hindutva's enemy? hindu vs muslim hindu vs sikh hindu vs christian hindu vs zoroaster hindu vs hindu all problems lies within hindutva
IT IS UNFORTUNATE THE SUPREME COURT VERDICT GAVE CHANCE FOR UNREST AND ATTACKS AGAINST THE MINORITY PLACES OF WORSHIP. THANK YOU SIR FOR ADVICE TO THE JUDGES
This guy would not be alive if Hindus of Gujarat had not goven shelters to Zosroastrians. Now he is spewing venom on Hindus. Dont the majority community cannot have right to correct historical injustice even with legal means.
This is called intellectual dishonesty.Mr Nariman is one of them, he is not interested in accepting the ASI report & Moreover he very deliberately escaped the period from 1528 to 1857.
I am a Hindu and I salute Nariman for speaking against Chandrachud’s faulty review of evidence, where DYC read 9/10 reports saying there was no temple, and said it is proved without doubt that the temple existed. All of you are brainwashed Hindus. The resistance = the scientifically minded rational Hindus
58:05 if law has to be codifed and consistent, then u cant introduce specific cases in the law. Which means the law cannot say, beating someone is bad, except Person A can beat his wife. Therefore places of worship Act, is not fair in the sense of making one exception which is a political exception and codify that exception as the basic structure of the constitution. It also takes away that justice has to be timeless in the sense that, if i was born after 2000, i must also be given the chance to perform a rath yatra and introduce the rath yatra made for another temple as the basic structure of the constitution. Therefore places of worship act can be amended or removed, and a law that makes exceptions cannot be codified as the basic structure, and if people see that there are other temples where peoples emotions exist, the codification cannot take away the freedom of someone to go to the court. The courts can then conduct the case, declare that this temple was raised down, but in adherence to places of worship act we will not hand it over to one side. And whenever places of worship Act is removed, the courts can then revisit their judgement and say "it was already proven that this temple was raised down, but in adherence of places of worship Act it was not handed over to one party, now the places of worship Act is removed, we will hand it over"
But wouldn't trying to determine the historical/religious nature of a relegious premise by decree of a court instigate further violence ? The solution has to be more nuanced than such a generalised one , the fundamental question that should be asked by the court while reviewing such petitions is the intention of inspection/survey of such premises.
@@rakesh.khan.chaudhary this is incorrect. Dalits OBCs have been given reservation to rectify historical prejudices . Why does that not lead to violence by upper castes ? Similarly, the Muslim polity of India are responsible.. who are you to assume that it will lead to violence?
@@rakesh.khan.chaudhary Bhai jaan just answer me who will do the violence??? Why will they resort to violence after knowing very clearly that their place of worship was built over a desecrated temple??? That desecrated temple used to be the Temple of their beloved ancestors as well, and that desecration was done by Muslim invaders in religious zeal...
India is a democracy where all religions are equal and respected Let the govt focus on helping the poor, the unemployed, the sick and the vulnerable Hunger, sadness, pain, kindness, health, sickness, joy, compassion has no religion or gender anywhere in this world
@@p_sndp There is no love or tragedy here As per the country's constitution this is a secular country. There is only space for humanity and compassion, again which has no religion. Religion is something personal, something one practices to bring peace to the heart.. not something one wears like a shirt or a ornament or a badge of honour All religions speak of being compassionate and alleviation of pain of others. Political leaders manipulate people on strengthening their sense of identity to religion, not the identity of being a human or a citizen Our country needs all of us. Let us all work together to bring prosperity to our nation Good wishes
He talks about the separation of church and state, mentioning that when Mormons wanted polygamy, the Supreme Court of the USA dismissed it because you can practice your religion freely, but wanting polygamy is like religion interfering with the state's authority, so it is not valid. He used this argument to criticize the Ayodhya judgment. However, will he criticize why Muslims in our secular country have their own religious laws?
His speech should played in every nook n corner of the country to tell the people how traitors have worked earlier also! Because he is a parsi he talking magainst Auyodhya verdict!
It's amazes me that, Courts didn't find Places of Worship Act unconstitutional!! Having said that, asking for justice through court of law is being termed as Hydra heads, imagine the judges found hindu sides as Hydra, we think they are objective in interpreting law of the land. If BJP loose power in center we are going to see another wave of "why Hinduism is bad" I hope BJP doesn't play this trust of Hindus by being another Congress in ruling the country. Because there is no party who can be more pro hindu than BJP.
He cannot talk about every immoral practice in a subsection of a one hour speech. Instead of a civil discussion about historical practices Indians tend to get emotional and throw jabs towards groups they despise.
@rakesh.khan.chaudhary it's not logical to talk 10 mins on something which already banned, like sati n dev dasi practices, so it's already a fixed social issue. Vs issues which are ongoing n not banned, instead they r protected by personal laws like halala n mutah misyar nikah etc. speech was nice but one sided. It seems d guy has enmity towards Hindus for some reason.
@@timmy8299 most certainly if a short term marriage is made just for intercourse they are decieving themselves not God . Such marriages are forbidden but still done , certainly there should be laws governing it , but it is very rare in india unlike our neighbour . All india muslim councils oppose both the practices. Coming to justice Nariman speaking about banned practises , it was important for him to talk about banned practices to infer the genealogy of our morals . The majoritarions was scrutinized because majoritarian organisations are harming the secular nature of the country not the majority itself.
@@timmy8299he did talk about excommunication with reference to muslims . Talking about sati and dasis was important to understand the genealogy of our morals and legal jurisprudence . All india muslim councils have opposed nikah halala and muta , and have been long outlawed , in the islamic way of life marriage is a lifelong commitment unless circumstances prevail against so , marriage only for short term pleasure is a sin since the inception of Islam . And nowhere do muslim personal laws of india protect nikah-halala . Justice Nariman talked about the right wing majoritarians not the majority itself .
भारत की कुल जनसंख्या में 80% लोग हिंदू नहीं हैं। वे अनुसूची जनजाति (एससी) अनुसूचित जनजाति (एसटी) अन्य पिछड़ा वर्ग और जैन सिख बौद्ध हैं। हिंदू नाम सिंधु नदी सभ्यता के बाद आया।
Waqf can only acquire land that was promised to waqf , a muslim relegious site is not by definition a property of the waqf . Waqf properties are those which were willfully endowed to the purpose of social welfare and worship, waqf can only claim properties they have documents for , they don't have the power to haphazardly grab property.
If the same argument is used , it can also be claimed that many Buddhist monasteries and temples were broken down in east india in the present day states of Madhya Pradesh , bihar , bengal , jharkhand and the northeast . At some point a red line has to be drawn for claiming religious sites otherwise our country will spiral down into a dark rabbit hole .
@@rakesh.khan.chaudhary No religion hates idols than Islam. Punjab to Bihar straight route was always under attack for centuries by Islamic invaders. That is why you don't find temples, vihars existed today in that area. Constantly being under attack by invedors, buddhists population ran away to Malaysia, Indonesia, Nepal, ladaq area . We have no history of Hindu temples built on vihars. But Buddhist people tried to install buddhas idol in Hindu temple ankor vat of Thailand. If Buddhist have proof they should claim their vihar. But in reality they don't have any proof.
Such ridiculous and irresponsible arguments denigrating the ayodhya judgment. When 100s of acres of land is occupied every day in India under the draconian waqf act brought on some ludicrous claims of the Islamic philosophy this person says Hindus must not claim what is rightfully theirs. If you have the guts ask how come waqf is in possession of such laks of acres of property in India and its basis even after they took 1/3rd of our country in the name of their religion. How churches are still controlling the properties even after British left. No you will not ask. You have the time to lecture Hindus to practice secularism but not to others.
Ram janmsthal samajh kar saare hindu samaaj Babri Masjid sthal ko pujega, kyoki ki is sthal ka pramaan kisi hindu dharmic kitaab mei nahi, lekin ha city ka naam Ayodhya bataya hai lekin sthal nahi. Sthal toh hame politician ne bataya jinko dharm mei pramaan nahi mana jayega. Iska matlab jo hamare dharm se pramanith nahi aur koi bhi manusya ke paas ye authority nahi pramanith karne ka. Iska matlab ham ek fake sthal ko pooj rahe hai, dharm ki manyata mei milawat kar rahe hai.
Intellectual dishonesty at its highest level. The Indian Constitution is another convoluted and contradictory document. One article proclaims that all citizens have equal rights, yet there are special laws based on religion. From the discussion, it appears the speaker is not open-minded. He referenced only one case, while there are thousands of cases from before 1993 still pending due to Supreme Court negligence. India is the only country where the Supreme Court selects its own judges, yet this speaker casts aspersions on the judgments of colleagues that contradict his own viewpoint. Shameless. Less on facts and more on rhetoric. Secularism doesn't mean some one surrenders his basic rights . If he feels judgement was wrong , he would vehemently opposed and appealed just like they challenged NJAC which was passed by Parliament . Striking down the NJAC is a travesty of justice.
Justice Nariman should keep in mind that the peple who have given judyice in Ayodhya case were also learned judges! He may be expecting a nomination to RS by congress!
If u have a claim where a temple has been built over ur religious place then we will support ur claim. We expect u to do the same for us. If proven that the structure existed under the current building then be generous and respectfully help us regain what we lost...
Nariman after recusing himself from the Ayodha case n now blabbering only shows their ulterior motive. We have the Narimans, isn't Sr Nariman the one of who argued in favour of Union Carbide who killed n paralysed thousands in Bhopal. Now this Jr.Nariman in similar mode. Public follow n Respect n adhere to Judiciary n not personalities. Verdict matters not views
I salute justice Nariman for the great presentation of the facts and the reality of the functioning of the courts in India and misuse of the Constitution and judicial systems for personal gains.
Fundamentalists and fanatics wont understand what he is talking about. Appreciate Justice Nariman.
Justice Nariman sir very well explained. Even an ordinary person understood whatever you said on this platform. Please continue your efforts in this sphere as it is very important to awake the educated citizens who are playing in the hands of this illegitimate communal government. Please conduct such important talks in various platforms all over India and also outside India. My sincere regards to you.
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Salute this brilliant Rtd Judge of the SC who upheld the constitutional rights during his tenure and he has been very vocal on many issues that infringe the basic structure of our Constitution
This Former Hon'ble should be honoured. Sharing the truth in these times when Nagpur HO has seeded hatred in many hearts, isn't an easy task.
This Sir's knowledge to be made use of well by INC.
Amendment in PoW and Waqf Act is the need of the hour
Economy and inflation is the need of the hour,
Religion issues are nothing but easy distraction from hard issues
Why do you think so ? Does it gives you sadistic pleasure to get after the Muslims in India ? How does Waqf effects your day to day life ? If I being a Muslim give away property as charity to used for the development of my community which is termed as "Waqf" , why does it require your intervention being none to any book of accounts ..it is painful to find people like you with unnecessary provocation just simply for your pleasure bully minorities as you( Majority) wrest the power ..
Character , impartiality in Indians is the need of hour. Who uses law when it favours them when opposes then change the law.😂
@@Daemonheims nope tons of middle class people are suffering due to waqf board land grabing
When the US will place India in the list of countries of particular concern and sanction it then you'll shit your pants.
Zarasthura and angirasa fought a war . And zarsthura defeated by Vedic groups . Hence all zoroastrian are a soldier against Vedic culture .
😂😂 now zoroasters are also hindutva's enemy?
hindu vs muslim
hindu vs sikh
hindu vs christian
hindu vs zoroaster
hindu vs hindu
all problems lies within hindutva
What's app University
😂
I wish there were more “leaders” who could think so clearly and communicate so eloquently.
Brilliant lecture! Very succinctly sums the main features on the issue of secularism
IT IS UNFORTUNATE THE SUPREME COURT VERDICT GAVE CHANCE FOR UNREST AND ATTACKS AGAINST THE MINORITY PLACES OF WORSHIP.
THANK YOU SIR FOR ADVICE TO THE JUDGES
Another left urban left news put out by print.😢😢😢
This guy would not be alive if Hindus of Gujarat had not goven shelters to Zosroastrians.
Now he is spewing venom on Hindus.
Dont the majority community cannot have right to correct historical injustice even with legal means.
Infact Iran also do not want them to come back
This is called intellectual dishonesty.Mr Nariman is one of them, he is not interested in accepting the ASI report & Moreover he very deliberately escaped the period from 1528 to 1857.
Now zoroasters are also on hindutva's agenda?
how hypocrite you all are not accepting mistakes and hating all
This type of asshole people are reason why parsi destroyed in hand of Islamic terrorist.
I am a Hindu and I salute Nariman for speaking against Chandrachud’s faulty review of evidence, where DYC read 9/10 reports saying there was no temple, and said it is proved without doubt that the temple existed. All of you are brainwashed Hindus. The resistance = the scientifically minded rational Hindus
58:05 if law has to be codifed and consistent, then u cant introduce specific cases in the law. Which means the law cannot say, beating someone is bad, except Person A can beat his wife. Therefore places of worship Act, is not fair in the sense of making one exception which is a political exception and codify that exception as the basic structure of the constitution. It also takes away that justice has to be timeless in the sense that, if i was born after 2000, i must also be given the chance to perform a rath yatra and introduce the rath yatra made for another temple as the basic structure of the constitution. Therefore places of worship act can be amended or removed, and a law that makes exceptions cannot be codified as the basic structure, and if people see that there are other temples where peoples emotions exist, the codification cannot take away the freedom of someone to go to the court. The courts can then conduct the case, declare that this temple was raised down, but in adherence to places of worship act we will not hand it over to one side. And whenever places of worship Act is removed, the courts can then revisit their judgement and say "it was already proven that this temple was raised down, but in adherence of places of worship Act it was not handed over to one party, now the places of worship Act is removed, we will hand it over"
very very true ....
Well said bro 🙏
"Seculars (read Gand-fattu)" and Piecefuls must now understand that the days fear of their "street muscle" is over now 😅
But wouldn't trying to determine the historical/religious nature of a relegious premise by decree of a court instigate further violence ? The solution has to be more nuanced than such a generalised one , the fundamental question that should be asked by the court while reviewing such petitions is the intention of inspection/survey of such premises.
@@rakesh.khan.chaudhary this is incorrect. Dalits OBCs have been given reservation to rectify historical prejudices . Why does that not lead to violence by upper castes ? Similarly, the Muslim polity of India are responsible.. who are you to assume that it will lead to violence?
@@rakesh.khan.chaudhary
Bhai jaan just answer me who will do the violence???
Why will they resort to violence after knowing very clearly that their place of worship was built over a desecrated temple??? That desecrated temple used to be the Temple of their beloved ancestors as well, and that desecration was done by Muslim invaders in religious zeal...
Great interpretation of the constitution and the dispute of the Ayodhya mosque very well brought out by ex justice. wonderful
Hindustan should belongs to Hindus. Pakistan and Bangladesh for Muslims. This is permanent solution to secularism.
India is a democracy where all religions are equal and respected
Let the govt focus on helping the poor, the unemployed, the sick and the vulnerable
Hunger, sadness, pain, kindness, health, sickness, joy, compassion has no religion or gender anywhere in this world
@balur104
One side love is always ends up with huge tragedy.
@@p_sndp There is no love or tragedy here
As per the country's constitution this is a secular country. There is only space for humanity and compassion, again which has no religion. Religion is something personal, something one practices to bring peace to the heart.. not something one wears like a shirt or a ornament or a badge of honour
All religions speak of being compassionate and alleviation of pain of others.
Political leaders manipulate people on strengthening their sense of identity to religion, not the identity of being a human or a citizen
Our country needs all of us. Let us all work together to bring prosperity to our nation
Good wishes
Dteam on else go to Central Asia from where you arrived.
Read about secularism before making a monkey out of yourself on the world wide web
Sadly, he is whistling in the wind and those who should hear him are deaf.
Pointless.
Lordship delivered very good Information by cited Case laws .Minority Advocates should take this seriously
Solicitor general of india, 2011. Now you should know why this is coming up?
He talks about the separation of church and state, mentioning that when Mormons wanted polygamy, the Supreme Court of the USA dismissed it because you can practice your religion freely, but wanting polygamy is like religion interfering with the state's authority, so it is not valid. He used this argument to criticize the Ayodhya judgment. However, will he criticize why Muslims in our secular country have their own religious laws?
Dimwit !! He didn't say that. Listen again !!
His speech should played in every nook n corner of the country to tell the people how traitors have worked earlier also! Because he is a parsi he talking magainst Auyodhya verdict!
It's amazes me that, Courts didn't find Places of Worship Act unconstitutional!!
Having said that, asking for justice through court of law is being termed as Hydra heads,
imagine the judges found hindu sides as Hydra, we think they are objective in interpreting law of the land.
If BJP loose power in center we are going to see another wave of "why Hinduism is bad"
I hope BJP doesn't play this trust of Hindus by being another Congress in ruling the country.
Because there is no party who can be more pro hindu than BJP.
Thanks for ex planning the whole issue👏👏👍
In morality discussion not sure why he did talk about halala n only about banned sati prath
He cannot talk about every immoral practice in a subsection of a one hour speech. Instead of a civil discussion about historical practices Indians tend to get emotional and throw jabs towards groups they despise.
@rakesh.khan.chaudhary it's not logical to talk 10 mins on something which already banned, like sati n dev dasi practices, so it's already a fixed social issue. Vs issues which are ongoing n not banned, instead they r protected by personal laws like halala n mutah misyar nikah etc. speech was nice but one sided. It seems d guy has enmity towards Hindus for some reason.
@@timmy8299 most certainly if a short term marriage is made just for intercourse they are decieving themselves not God . Such marriages are forbidden but still done , certainly there should be laws governing it , but it is very rare in india unlike our neighbour . All india muslim councils oppose both the practices. Coming to justice Nariman speaking about banned practises , it was important for him to talk about banned practices to infer the genealogy of our morals . The majoritarions was scrutinized because majoritarian organisations are harming the secular nature of the country not the majority itself.
Convenience!
@@timmy8299he did talk about excommunication with reference to muslims . Talking about sati and dasis was important to understand the genealogy of our morals and legal jurisprudence .
All india muslim councils have opposed nikah halala and muta , and have been long outlawed , in the islamic way of life marriage is a lifelong commitment unless circumstances prevail against so , marriage only for short term pleasure is a sin since the inception of Islam . And nowhere do muslim personal laws of india protect nikah-halala . Justice Nariman talked about the right wing majoritarians not the majority itself .
Waqf Bd Act बनाकर १५०० साल पहले कि जमीन हड़पना उनके लिये जायज है लैकिन हींदु अपनै मंदीर पर दावा नहीं ठोक सकता।
भारत की कुल जनसंख्या में 80% लोग हिंदू नहीं हैं। वे अनुसूची जनजाति (एससी) अनुसूचित जनजाति (एसटी) अन्य पिछड़ा वर्ग और जैन सिख बौद्ध हैं। हिंदू नाम सिंधु नदी सभ्यता के बाद आया।
Waqf can only acquire land that was promised to waqf , a muslim relegious site is not by definition a property of the waqf . Waqf properties are those which were willfully endowed to the purpose of social welfare and worship, waqf can only claim properties they have documents for , they don't have the power to haphazardly grab property.
If the same argument is used , it can also be claimed that many Buddhist monasteries and temples were broken down in east india in the present day states of Madhya Pradesh , bihar , bengal , jharkhand and the northeast . At some point a red line has to be drawn for claiming religious sites otherwise our country will spiral down into a dark rabbit hole .
@@rakesh.khan.chaudhary No religion hates idols than Islam. Punjab to Bihar straight route was always under attack for centuries by Islamic invaders. That is why you don't find temples, vihars existed today in that area. Constantly being under attack by invedors, buddhists population ran away to Malaysia, Indonesia, Nepal, ladaq area . We have no history of Hindu temples built on vihars. But Buddhist people tried to install buddhas idol in Hindu temple ankor vat of Thailand. If Buddhist have proof they should claim their vihar. But in reality they don't have any proof.
@@rakesh.khan.chaudhary does turkey, Saudi quatar have waqf boards?
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Beautifully explained
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Would this require Divine Inspiration?
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... do all hear silence?
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Such ridiculous and irresponsible arguments denigrating the ayodhya judgment. When 100s of acres of land is occupied every day in India under the draconian waqf act brought on some ludicrous claims of the Islamic philosophy this person says Hindus must not claim what is rightfully theirs. If you have the guts ask how come waqf is in possession of such laks of acres of property in India and its basis even after they took 1/3rd of our country in the name of their religion. How churches are still controlling the properties even after British left. No you will not ask. You have the time to lecture Hindus to practice secularism but not to others.
Cope☺️
Very nice lecture
this fellow is blind to all problems in non Hindus and would like to fix Hindus only. May be he needs to go to Iran and lecture them.
ye kah Raha hai ki khudai illegal hai magar sach ye hai ki mandir k avashesh bhi mile hain aur ye kyoun nahin bol raha hai ?
Ram janmsthal samajh kar saare hindu samaaj Babri Masjid sthal ko pujega, kyoki ki is sthal ka pramaan kisi hindu dharmic kitaab mei nahi, lekin ha city ka naam Ayodhya bataya hai lekin sthal nahi. Sthal toh hame politician ne bataya jinko dharm mei pramaan nahi mana jayega. Iska matlab jo hamare dharm se pramanith nahi aur koi bhi manusya ke paas ye authority nahi pramanith karne ka. Iska matlab ham ek fake sthal ko pooj rahe hai, dharm ki manyata mei milawat kar rahe hai.
Nariman has no respect to Hinduism
Intellectual dishonesty at its highest level. The Indian Constitution is another convoluted and contradictory document. One article proclaims that all citizens have equal rights, yet there are special laws based on religion. From the discussion, it appears the speaker is not open-minded. He referenced only one case, while there are thousands of cases from before 1993 still pending due to Supreme Court negligence. India is the only country where the Supreme Court selects its own judges, yet this speaker casts aspersions on the judgments of colleagues that contradict his own viewpoint. Shameless. Less on facts and more on rhetoric. Secularism doesn't mean some one surrenders his basic rights . If he feels judgement was wrong , he would vehemently opposed and appealed just like they challenged NJAC which was passed by Parliament . Striking down the NJAC is a travesty of justice.
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Justice Nariman should keep in mind that the peple who have given judyice in Ayodhya case were also learned judges! He may be expecting a nomination to RS by congress!
All those educated judges are just book worms without without any fair judicial mindset. Cheats!
0:40 , 56:43
What about the land's occupied by different temple's?
They are not 'occupied'. they were not built on pre existing religious structures of another religion.
If u have a claim where a temple has been built over ur religious place then we will support ur claim. We expect u to do the same for us. If proven that the structure existed under the current building then be generous and respectfully help us regain what we lost...
we will give away if proved
What about Lahore and Dhaka and Gilgit occupied by different sects of desert cult 😂😂😂😂
File a case, if proved, we will give it away.
Nariman after recusing himself from the Ayodha case n now blabbering only shows their ulterior motive. We have the Narimans, isn't Sr Nariman the one of who argued in favour of Union Carbide who killed n paralysed thousands in Bhopal. Now this Jr.Nariman in similar mode. Public follow n Respect n adhere to Judiciary n not personalities. Verdict matters not views