Which of these TWO ways do you perceive time?
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I just asked my husband and he said “I would ask for clarifications for the exact time.”
Good man
same
Smart man
He must've been through this ALOT
My dad said the exact same thing lol
I laughed wayy to hard at that one Tiktok comment who said “anyone who thinks it’s 10am is a flat earther”
Flat-earthers = Mouth-breathers
Good one
Such a 2pm person thing to say
So flat earth is correct now?
Hugh Jecoque Well we do perceive that the Earth is flat :)
For anyone struggling to understand the other side:
- 10am: 'moved forward' as in moved closer to you, like if a person was facing you, you would tell them to move forward = come closer
-2pm: 'moved forward' as in moved towards the future, so away from you, like if a person was facing the same way as you, you would tell them to move forward = go away
Hope this helped :)
This did help thank you!
Thanks, this did help! I'm still firmly on the ego-moving side though, lol
The meeting was pushed back two hours. That's my preferred phrasing and made the whole video baffling
@ I did the exact opposite. I originally thought 10am as in forward = sooner, but then I realized if you go forward as in clockwise, it would be 2pm.
It's the wording. If someone said the meeting has been moved back you would think that it will happen later rather than sooner.
But if you say it has been moved forward then you would infer that the meeting was prioritized more making it 2 hours sooner
But without context, the meeting movED forward by 2 hours could mean:
The meeting IS movING forward by 2 hours AFTER noon.
This reminded me of the movie The Arrival. It's incredible how language could affect our perception of time.
Hey..
I invite you to my RUclips channel 😊 I hope you like it.
it really is incredible!!
those theories have been proven entirely false
Broke: “is the dress blue/black or gold/white?”
Woke: “Is the meeting at 10am or 2pm?”
🙃🙃🙃
Pls help me understand what you mean by broke and woke
Kraig?
I see blue and gold
@@corn-is-everywhere4052 really, i see blue and light brown.
I said 2pm, but then I thought about the terms “pushed back” and “moved forward” and I could see it both ways. I’ve experienced these terms used both ways but never really thought about it. So now I’m just severely confused and don’t know what to think...
Same u read my mind
Same
I'm a 2 pm person, but this just tripped me up so hard because I realized that I initially see both phrases as meaning the same thing (later in the day). Now I'm questioning if my brain is broken and my whole perception of time lol
In both scenarios I would say 2PM anyone else?
Same. There is no phrasing I can think of which does not indicate the direction in time, vs direction in space, which would make me think the meeting would be earlier. If you were to say “has been moved back” or “has been moved forward” both directions mean “later” to me.
Thinking on it deeper, I intuitively think that both imply a “pushing” motion, pushing the event away from me. Where if you explicitly said “has been pulled back” or “has been pulled forward” I would think “earlier”.
Wild.
This was right on time for me. I had just called my doctor's office and told them that I needed my appointment to be moved back two weeks, and the nurse thought I meant that I wanted it moved forward two weeks. The more we talked about it, the more confused we both became, until I finally told her what date I wanted to reschedule it. I couldn't understand her confusion until I saw this video.
For example, everyone says “Christmas is coming” not “we’re getting to Christmas”.
That's just a phrase. I say "Christmas is coming" and have the ego-moving perspective that I'm moving through time to reach it
"Relativity"
Winter
Is
Coming
I've heard really eager people say, "we're getting so close to Christmas!" Before.
People don't say "We're getting to Christmas" because that's not proper English.
Anyone who says “the noon meeting is moved forward two hours” should be fired for not being able to communicate effectively. Just say what time the meeting is like a decent person.
They should also be fired for causing unnecessary emotional distress in the workplace.
But if you didn’t realise anyone else perceived time differently then you wouldn’t be knowingly confusing people. I’m in #team10am and I really struggle to comprehend how anyone would have thought otherwise
G Wednesday’s NOON meeting has been moved FORWARD by 2 hours. FORWARD meaning it was moved to a time AFTER noon... thats my perception
😂😂😂
You are the one I am searching
"is the meeting at 10am or 2pm?"
Me: Idk I'll be late either way
My man!
I will arrive half an hour late anyway lol
I saw a license plate on a car near me that gave me a chuckle, it said "USULYL8"
👍👍👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣☕☕ me toooooooo
@@codemiesterbeats late is the new "ontime" .lol. im lucky if I get the day correct!
Its not Wednesday or Friday..it's -This day,the other day ..in a few days.. a couple of days ago...lol
Noon = 12 AM
“Moved Forward”
Forward = Well, Forwards.
Forward = +
+2 hours past noon.
2pm.
This is the only correct answer
Tellin Time for dummies 😅😅
@@katherineguevara4430
Huh?
Original Meeting: 12 PM
Move *Forward* by 2 Hours: 2 PM
@@nadim2911 no noon has been moved forward, not the meeting
@@katherineguevara4430
It's says “noon meeting”.
Meaning “12:00 meeting”, had been moved forward by 2 hours.
My initial thought was 2pm, then I thought about it. If it was "pushed back" instead of "moved forward" I would think 2pm... So now I'm just confused and don't know where I stand 😂
Same. I thought 2pm, initially, until I looked at the wording again. Moved forward sounds like it was moved towards an earlier time, so now I keep thinking 10am and can't re-associate myself with the 2pm crowd.
I did the same thing, I feel like it’s because I can’t imagine having a meeting happening earlier than scheduled, they always get pushed later
I feel exactly the same
The clock goes forward clockwise.
thank you I was so sure of my answer before .. now I don't know either 😅
Similar topic, I have consistently had professors who say something like "the assignment is due by midnight June 27th" and the whole class will be confused as to whether that means June 26th 11:59:59PM or June 27th 11:59:59PM because people's perception of whether midnight is the latest point of the day or the earliest point of the day is different.
This is generally solved by professors saying the assignment is instead due by 11:59PM of whatever day but the ambiguity of the topic always fascinated me
My brother and I had an argument over this! I said midnight Friday and he thought I meant a minute after 11:59 pm on Friday but I meant a minute before 00:01 am on Friday. He got very annoyed at me.
I’ve had the exact same issue
I always thought it was mean of the schools to do this!! Why make it at midnight when the prof is totally sleeping then. It should be 3 hours before whenever the next class is scheduled.
Ohhh. That’s why they do that!
I mean, logically, midnight June 27 is 12 am. So, the night of June 26. But if you look at it in sleep cycles, the nights is still part of the June 26.
Personally, I thought. "Oh, it's 2:00 PM." But then I thought "Oh, crap. Moving forward would mean it's sooner, so it's 10:00 AM." So... I guess I'm an ego-moving person who has adapted to time-moving people. Or something like that.
I had the same thought. In professional settings, moved forward has always meant an earlier time in my experience. I wonder if it differs on what country's English you are referring to? I think in the US there is an accepted standard of what this means.
I did something similar. I thought 2pm at first but then used the opposite language, if I heard the meeting was pushed back 2 hours, that makes me think it's further away and thus came to the conclusion that forward means 10am even though I kind of think 2pm instinctually
@@LaurenMilla Nice way of thinking.
I had the same reaction too. Thought it was 2pm and how can it be anything different, but then thought about it longer and figured that it could be both.
Exactly how I thought as well after reading a few comments... now I feel like I’m stuck in between these two categories
Saying “the meeting has been moved 𝐹𝑂𝑅𝑊𝐴𝑅𝐷 two hours” made me think 2pm. But if “the meeting has been moved 𝑈𝑃 two hours” had been said, I would have thought 10am.
Agreed
A late comment, but I just wanted to say that in Chinese language, we have a very clear cut difference with the words 前, meaning forward in this context, and 后, meaning backwards in this context as well. We say 前天, which means the day before yesterday, and 后天, as the day after tomorrow. So my family uses forward to say that time has became earlier and then use backwards to say that time has become later. (The English in this sentence isn't really correct but it took the least amount of work to type out and be understood rather than misunderstood.) When I saw this question, I thought immediately of 10am. However, when watching movies and scrubbing through the timeline (I think I used an animation term for movies, which is not the best fit) I say 前 for scrubbing to the end, basically moving forwards, and 后, for moving backwards- getting back o the start. Not many people may see this comment, but if you do, my main point is: we might have different perceptions of time based on the situation and unit of it.
No offense but you people haven’t even figured out how a fork works in 5000 years.
well that makes sense since here the confusion is because the word "forward" is ambiguous. but 前 and 后 specifically mean before and after. if you said "before" or "after" in the english sentence instead of "forward" everyone would interpret it the same way.
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." - Douglas Adams
Just one more till 42
Well done, have a cookie!
I really really wanted them to say that quote when it came up! I felt very let down. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity.
Umm...no Albert Einstein said that 😒
When people say “next Friday” and they mean this coming Friday. It drives me insane because “”next Friday” is not this coming Friday, it is the next coming Friday.
But I can see the difference in understanding, it just annoys me.
So funny, I feel the same, but I constantly have to clarify what I mean by saying "... it's next Friday, so, not this Friday, the one after" haha!
I do the same! My fiance gets so frustrated because he says "next Friday" meaning this coming one. His argument is always "well it is technically the next Friday that will happen". I think of it like you would with a week, if it is in "this week" then it is "this Friday" or "this Thursday" or whatever but if it is in the next week then it is next Friday. I'm glad I'm not the only one!!
"This Friday" or Friday. Next Friday = 2 Fridays from now unless the day is Friday when 'next Friday' is uttered. Then it would only be the upcoming Friday.
Okay I'll bite, what does next Friday mean, and what does this coming Friday mean? Let's say it's Monday, 1st of the month now, and you tell me there's a party next Friday, and a meeting this coming Friday. Which days of the month are the meeting and party?
Yeah, same! You should say this Friday for the coming Friday and next Friday for next week.
This is so interesting! I've always thought people should just leave out "forward" or "backward" when they speak of changing a time. "The meeting has been moved to [time]" is much less confusing.
I'd be interested to know which group of people tends to be late and which tends to be early for events.
“Time is an illusion and so is death”
That one guy from avatar the last airbender
:)
With the "meeting" example it's just down to your use of the word "forward", wether you read it as meaning continuing on from the current time. Or if you read it to mean coming sooner than the current time, as the word can be used for both. I see both, I first read it as meaning 2pm, but then after rereading it in a different context I read it as 10am. But both are possible.
I had the same thoughts about that. I'm not a native speaker, so I was wondering which of these two meanings the 'forward' has in the context of time. If I'm interpreting it the way I would in my mother tongue I would say 10 am but the way I interpretate English I would say 2 pm and than I've been totally lost 😄
Yes! Thank you!
This comment saved me, I was freaking out for a hot minute (I'm not a native speaker of English).
I got it when the sentence "I'm looking forward to meet you" popped into my mind. That helped me making sense of this other interpretation of the word "forward" as in _sooner_ instead of later (which, still, is the one that makes most sense to me).
I had this exact dilemma back in high school and college but instead of the word forward it was back and the teacher would be like we are moving this due date back. And I'm thinking back which way, further into the future or a sooner date.
:0 I watch ur vids!
When I hear that the meeting was "moved forward" two hours, I think that it's going to be at 2pm, but if it were "moved back" two hours, I would also think that it's at 2pm, so I think my time perspective might just be avoidant 😅
😂😂😂😂😂
Let’s be honest, who wants to go to a meeting. 😂
Crammers unite!
omg saameeee!! i was like moved forwarded - 2pm... moved back - also 2pm. moved UP - 10am 😂
Moved down to 2pm
I absolutely love this discussion, not only for its linguistic syntax and the English language but also for its holographic reality in physics. I love the fact that you guys see it as a relationship oriented diffusion and occlusion of gravitational time space assessments in the now! I do believe I initially answer the question of getting to the end of the year with a friend of mine before I saw this. She responded "yeah it's coming fast,"👌 to which I had to counter "well I can't wait till I get to that point in 2020 it'll finally be over.” it occurred to me we might be having a Virginia wolf-ish conversation, but I did think about the holographic universe and 0 point time in relationship this year. And our perception of how we physically communicate with these concepts, occurred to me later on. So I really appreciate you following up with this construct that had been rattling around in the back of my mind for weeks.
Haven't seen your videos in years. RUclips just stopped suggesting you and a whole bunch of channels I watched regularly. I have to click the bell on so many channels my ears are ringing.
this is so shocking to me i have ego moving perspective and I can’t imagine not seeing time this way WOW
Same!! I don't understand
@@Chris-rg6nm exactly
Vegeta is definitely Ego moving perspective.
It's shocking to me you so readily accept this analysis.
@@Chris-rg6nm that is so dumb
"Do you now think that it's at 2pm or at 10am?"
I think I'm definitely gonna miss that meeting....
lmao I'm the third one: confused because I've never heard the phrase "moves forward by xxx hrs" only earlier or later ;-;
Sane people use earlier and later. Forward and back is dumb as heck
I stumbled onto your sight tonight and I'd like to say that I really, really get a kick outta the POV'S you share! Thanks for the effort into the quality! You both have charisma, I love it!
I love Greg's trying-to-process face.
He's concentrating so hard.
Yep thats cute
There’s no right or wrong answer.... until you’ve missed the meeting entirely 🙃😂
😁😁😁
It's interesting that with the "holidays coming to you" or "getting to the holidays" my brain completely switches camps
Always been a fan of you guys but I really like this particular video format of the 2 of you having a discussion while providing information. Keep it up!
I really couldn’t understand the illustration, so for anyone else confused: within the phrase
“the meeting has been moved forward”
The difference is forward meaning “closer to now” vs meaning “further in the day”
Newt Scamander OMG YOU MADE IT MAKE SENCE LIKE YOU MEAN THE MEETING IS CLOSER TO NOW! I THOUGHT IT WAS 2 PM BUT NOW I THINK BOTH THANKS SO MUCH 🥰🥰🥰
English is my second language and for me it waa obviously 2 pm, but when you explained, I now understand there are more implications for the word "forward" than I learned. Very cool!
Yes, it means bring it closer to you, have it earlier, if something is moving forward slowly and you decide to physically push it forward to make it move faster, it means you want it to get to the destination sooner. Same with a meeting, if you want to bring it forward then you want to have it sooner, not later.
1. I like your Name!
2. English is a foreign language for me (I'm German) and I'd translate "The meeting is moving forward" as "Das Treffen wird vor verlegt" which I think obviously means earlier for every German (for me at least, I could be wrong and just think it's obvious when it actually isn't). And as I'd translate the English sentence like this, I'd definitely think, the meeting would be at 10 am. But it could just be kinda a mistranslation as well.
Oooohhhh thank you!!
I have consistently heard “moved forward” used to mean moved to an earlier time (forward in your day), and “pushed back” to mean pushed to a later time in the day.
This made me understand the other perspective and this actually makes a good amount of sense
Yes! Thats the only way I can think about this !
I am in the 10 AM group, but how does "forward in your day" mean earlier exactly?
Also, for the ones that answered 2 PM, does moving forward and pushed back mean the same thing, or does pushed back mean earlier?
@@Kabbinj See it as in before the 12 so 2pm would be after
I mean, in all my life pushed forward means earlier and pushed back means the opposite.
I wonder what those people who think pushed forward is the same as pushed back way of thinking...
I love how you explain things.
I love this! i like that there’s a discussion and opinion aspect to this video. also. it’s 100% 2pm thank you very much.
"There are actually two ways in which we English speaking humans percieve time"
People who speak other languages: ''i dont have such weaknesses''
Hahaha hahaha that was funny
But most people with other languages speak english too, it's common tongue.
@@Black3ight yes but if you speak another language then my guess is you have a lot of different perceptions about a lot of different things. for example: i'm a native spanish speaker (colombian) but have been in a heavily english-speaking atmosphere (international schools) for over a decade. i pretty much think in english at this point. but as soon as i heard his question, i thought to myself "that's so vague, i've seen it be used in both ways", so that completely contradicts this whole "one or the other" theory
I'm a native Spanish speaker and I think it's at 2 pm in English but if translated to Spanish, it's obviously at 10????
anyone else bilingual/multilingual that perceives time different on different languages???
@@olgaperez4705 I think its that the language translated is more direct, and like in spanish maybe it is different language and more obvious. I think your brain sees it the same way, but in spanish when translated the question slightly changes and makes one answer much more obvious.
When I hear the noon meeting was moved forward by 2 hours, I think 2pm. But if someone says the noon meeting was moved up by 2 hours, I think 10am.
Kayvon12321 I agree. Not done with the video, but I think it’s a matter of semantics
Same, also if you day moved back 2 hours I think 2pm also
I think forward/backward is based on your experience of time, while up/down is based on the way we read and write. If there is/was a culture that read starting from the bottom, they would probably hold the opposite view.
@@Alkoholwioslaidziwki So Arabic, Egyptian, and Ancient Japanese?
I think that because of planners. If the planner is horizontal, I'd say forward is later. If the planner is vertical I'd say up is earlier.
LOL i love Greg and mitch and their way of teaching science.. Great job!!!
Oh, wow! I actually love the past in front and future in the back way of thinking. I mean, you can see your past because it already happened. It is something concrete in your mind, so to speak. The future is something you cannot see, like what would happen with something that is in your back. You haven't lived it yet, you don't know what it looks like. It is a very fascinating way of thinking. Thank you for this!
What’s shocking to me was that when you very first said the question, my immediate thought was “oh it at 2pm” but when I stopped and thought about it for a second I reversed my perspective within just a few seconds and now confidently feel that it’s at 10 am. Very odd.
2015: White & Gold Dress vs. Black & Blue Dress
2016: Shiny Legs vs. White Paint on Legs
2018: Yanny vs. Laurel
2020: 10AM vs 2PM
The world is always trying to divide us even though we're already doing it ourselves.
am i the only one who sees blue and gold?
The dress thing was 5 years ago? Uugh time moves soo fast
Blue, shiny, laurel, 2PM.
Too easy 😏😋
2021 Extinct vs Evolved
All the ones on the right are the right ones. And no, I'm not right-wing conservative.
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." -- Ford Prefect
this is so interesting!!! I'd never thought about this before! I'd never even thought to think about this!
mind = blown
(I only know English)
I think of days and holidays and times as set things. When event times change, they move either closer or further from Sunday/Monday Day/Night January/December, not me personally. And because the things are set in stone in their respective blocks and zones, I move through them.
It's really interesting to now know that other people imagine things as being set up around them and coming closer. Therefore moving "forward" is relative to them, ie it's getting closer.
I saw another comment on "what if it said the meeting had been moved back two hours?" and I would then assume it was at 10. Others said it then must be at 2, because it was moved further away from them.
Thank you AsapScience! This is so astronomically amazing and eye opening.
Me: "Wednesday's noon meeting has been moved forward by 2 hours. What time is the meeting now?"
My Dad: "4 pm"
Me: -_-
Wow
You never mentioned the real time of the meeting. So yeah, your dads got a point.
Pratik Cankles you are even worse than her dad because you had time to think about that stupid answer.
My step dad has his own time like this
KJG
Noon is 12
My English textbook defined “move forward” as “move to an earlier time.” I guess the writers had time-moving perspectives. 🤷🏻♀️
I instinctually thought 2pm but after you pointed it out I realized that if the meeting were moved forward it would be 10:00. If the meeting were pushed back, then it would be 2:00.
I have the most boring type of synesthesia but it's actually relevant for this. I blend time and space perception, which is what I though everyone did until I heard about time-space synesthesia and realized that not everyone does that. For me, time is like a helix/coil that I'm standing on, with the future being up, forward, and to the right, and the past is down, forward, and to the left. When I'm thinking of time relative to myself, I see it based on wherever I am on the coil. When I'm thinking of time relative to itself (like thinking of a date on the year, but not how far away it is from me), I'm standing in the spring, around April, probably because that's when my birthday is. So from that standpoint, I'm in the spring, summer is to my right, winter is to my left, and autumn is below and across from me. But right now it's November, so winter is to my right, summer is to my left, and spring is up and across from me. Seasons also have colors but I think that's just kind of cultural, like spring is green, winter is ice blue, fall is dark orange and summer is yellow. But I think that's just the colors most people associate wih the seasons.
Apparently my mom thinks of time as an imaginary calendar, where if you say "April", she imagines the month of April on a calendar.
This video is about to recieve a ton of views
I personally think its White & Gold
No
its definitely yanny
Two of my favorite channels in the same spot. I love it
You all are wrong ....it is 5 am
No blue and black
Yanny is having a meeting at 10am, and she's wearing white-gold dress.
All of those are wronggggg 😂
You had me until you said white and gold, smh 😭
Haha! Good one! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2pm and I'll agree xD
Am I the only one that hears the yanny/laurel thing as "yarry"?
This just blew my mind 😂 I had to pause a few times and mentally process this video! Me and my wife about to have a good convo today 😂
both actually make sense to me, sometimes one makes more sense but i rethink it and the other also makes sense
I chose 2pm, yet I see the holidays as coming towards us.
I agree. Completely. I still can't see how it could be 10AM, but I am starting to understand why it's odd. Consider this breakdown.
Wednesday's noon meeting has been moved forward by two hours.
Wednesday's is a possessive noun, it is showing ownership of noon.
Noon is a noun. Following traditional English sentence structure nouns are usually either the subject: the one doing the verb, or an object, something the doing is done to. (you might drive a car or give to a friend, car and friend are objects.) Meeting is also a noun, and so should follow this same rule.
Has been moved forward by two hours can probably pretty safely be taken together as predicate: but we can break it down.
"has been" is used here to form the present perfect voice, which denotes sometime is or was ongoing. In this context it implies the movement did not happen all at one, but over a period of time. The past tense "moved" tells us the movement has sinse stopped.
In this case, forward is an adverb, it modifies the movement. By is also ad adverb which modifies forward. Two is an adjective which modifies hours. Hours is a noun, and therfore either a subject or an object, but the use of the word by tells us hours is an object.
So, theoretically you should be able to organize this sentence differently to make what is supposed to be subject and what is meant to be object more clear. Let's try
The meeting (subject), has been moved forward by two hours from Wednesday's noon.
Wednesday's noon(subject) has been moved forward by two hours realitive to the meeting.
In case hours being an object has unclear, let's try to make it the subject.
Two hours has been moved forward for Wednesday's noon meeting.
I agree, that last one is absolute nonsense, but I couldn't think of a better way to phrase it.
I originally thought of noon as an adjective in this context, describing the meeting. Noon isn't an adjective, but it still makes sense to use it as one. If noon is an adjective then the meeting is clearly the subject, and the final time is 2PM as the meeting moved in time.
I hope this explains why 2PM for anyone who doesn't see it. I really would love a better explanation the other way.
I say it’s to pm but I’m looking forward to Christmas
@Joshua Barbanel Yeah, this was pointed out to me irl a bit ago. And I now see why people see 10am.
But that's not the explanation given in the video. I've learned that the problem here is forward. When you are looking forward in time you mean the future, and when looking back you mean the past. Yet, when a meeting is moved back it means it will be further in the future. In english, we don't usually use forward to denote a meeting moving, so we don't have a collective agreement about what that means. We move meetings back, up, or to a specific time. I'm actually pretty sure up and back are both meant to refer more to a meeting moving through a planner or intenerary, as opposed to literally moving in time, but of course if it moves in the schedule in moves in real life. And I see how saying moving forward in a schedule should mean earlier. However, everything else in which forward is associated with time refers to th future. Which seems to be where the real confusion is coming from.
It's because 2pm is actually more objective than 10am. Timeline being static but also the reference point, not affected by where a human is. So forward will always be the same direction >>>. Being subjective is wrong when it comes to things like timelines. Being objective in life is the right way to live life. No bias, just reality.
i think he’s right that it has something to do with how we perceive the said event , if it’s something we are going to do or something that is going to “happen” to us
I'm not a native English speaker, so it took me quite a while to understand the problem here. In my language, when you talk about moving an event, the word you use to describe it specifies whether the event will occur later or earlier. That doesn't leave much space for subjectivity, so when you talked about "forward" I automatically thought "forward is +, so +2 hours". Because time is less subjective in my language, I thought about "forward" as either + or - time, instead of as moving in correlation to something else (which is a more subjective type of progression). I hope that makes sense🤔
Edit: now that I think about it, you'll actually need to give *more* information about the situation in Hebrew to make time subjective, which is pretty weird. Giving more info will let you use more subjective words that give the same perspective as "forward".
Yeah I kind of had the same issue.
In French we often says pushing the event by x hours.
So instead of flowing time or ego-perception it is more like event perception
English isn't overly subjective, It's just that a lot of native English speakers do not know the meaning of most of the words they speak. So you get videos like this. But I love asap science but this video could have been solved with a dictionary.
Ours specifies earlier or later as well...
Forward before
Backward after (aft=back)
I regard the opposite interpretation as a widespread misunderstanding of our language.
I don't get why people don't understand this is about being objective and subjective. The timeline will exist without humans and will always be left is back, right is forward on this linear line that will not change. Just because you add an object into the timeline, doesn't mean that linear line changes direction, it's still moving forward. It's literally how an object moves based on the timeline, which the question is about time so you need to base it off of the timeline rules aka is linear and moves in one direction, which is forward. If you are changing the date of an event, the timeline would say hey, if you want to move forward, turn right, if you want to move backwards, turn left. If you chose left, the timeline would say that's the backwards direction, don't give the event(meeting) any faces so it's not facing anywhere. It's only because people are moving their body parts that would feel like it's forward but did you go forward in time? No, you went back in time but you are confused because of the direction you were facing. It's like you know you want to go the past, but you're saying youre running forward towards the past, but your direction doesn't speak the truth of the reality, which is you went backwards on the timeline. That's how the timeline would see it. Basically following the rules of the globe North East South West, those are the objective directions. It's like running on a treadmill facing the back of the plane, you feel like you're running forward, which you are, in reference to your body and not the globe, but you're not actually going forward. The plane is going forward and you are running backward in correlation to where you are actually moving. A - B. Just because you face a certain way, doesn't mean that'll be the direction you went. That's how you be objective, removing the person from the equation.
@@steveh3571 origin from old english is to move forward into the future.
I wasn't sure what I thought until I reframed the questiont and thought of it as moving "up" as opposed to "forward. " When it's put that way I definitely think time is flowing towards/through me.
This is fascinating! It makes sense that it is an English language issue though. Spanish is my native language and it’s definitely more of a time centered language.
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@@pushbaner5219 LOL, I kind of hate Wednesday too. Not sure why so much. It's just too "fat" and right in the middle. I like Thursday because I feel we crossed a hurdle somehow.
Plot twist: whoever set that meeting didn't want to come
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as SOON as you mentioned seeing it as something you're dreading, I immediately was able to see the 10 AM crowd's perspective. This video is blowing my mind and I still have 2 minutes left to watch 😲
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Shout out to all the people asking "what time was the meeting?"
TY!!! I didn't understand at ALL what that even meant.😅
Never
Aka all the people that failed algebra.
@@TheChickenRiceBowl or those that don't like vague language
@Patrick Hudson lol
I see how “move Forward” can be perceived as the meeting moving ahead in time Or moving earlier in the day. I think of “forward in time” and any time after the one you’re speaking about.
Yep :p
Interesting. I think earlier (10am) because moving it forward means moving closer to the front, which is the beginning of the day.
The specific language of the statement is key here: "moved up" could mean moved ahead in time (2pm) or moved ahead on the schedule (10am). To me it's just ambiguous phrasing, not "different perceptions of time".
Thank you for this comment! I've just been sitting here dumbfounded as to how it could be seen the other way. Thank you for having the smarts that I don't haha
@@Tatsebmaki Forward is defined as the direction that one is facing of travelling; towards the front. It would make more sense for time to go forward in a clockwise manner since in our concept of time, time is forward-facing clockwise; it is odd to assume that time will turn anticlockwise to forward-face you instead.
When I think about an event I am dreading, I still feel like I'm in the ego-perception group, but it feels more like a rollercoaster where you're moving towards the scary part but you can't stop lol
So I say 2pm, but I also think that time is moving around us as in the holidays are coming up. We can't change how fast a year is, they just gradually feel shorter as we live through more and more of them.
When I think about this question in English I think it’s 10am, when I think about this question in Chinese it’s 2pm ...
How is it 10, it’s going forward not backword
When I think about it in English, it's like "totally 2pm, duh", but when I translate it to Spanish I'm like "wait, what, no, it's 10am". So like.. I feel you
When I think about it in English I think it’s 2 pm, when I think about it in korean it’s 10am...
Yeah in dutch i feel like 10am but in english 2pm
@@juicearth999 it is ten because it is going forward.
imagine people showing up at the meeting at 10am. the people who thought the meeting was at 2pm will be sooooooooooooooooooo confused
Wrong the people at 10:00 would be way to early
@@owenlewthwaite5644 It depends on how they mean moved ahead 2 hours. Ahead could mean 2 hours earlier or 2 hours later. Usually I would think it would be 2 hours later but I know that it can mean 2 hours earlier. If it was moved 2 hours ahead of schedule then it would be 2 hours earlier and if it was moved 2 hours behind schedule it would be 2 hours later. :/
@@DarkPillWarrior but they did not use the word "ahead" they said "forward" and in the context of time you would have to add 2hrs
Me showing up at noon because I wasn’t cc’d
It might help to show an action happening to the time to disambiguate. "Pushed back" would mean that the meeting is further away, right? "Pulled Forward", while a bit clunky, shows that it is now closer, no? "Move" is a terrible word that can be used anywhere. I move my fingers to type, They move their mouth to speak. I move upwards and then back down again. "Move" has no restrictions on what that motion is about. So to move a meeting, it can go either way.
I am a 10 a.m. and I do feel static at times. I’m up early hours in advance just to be somewhere early meaning on time. Never excited to get to a holiday, they come eventually. I flow through my day and I pre think events as alternate timelines to control the narrative. I’m also a Gemini so I breeze through as an air sign, slow, fast, calm, and rough.
The meeting previously booked at 12:00 have been changed to be 2 hours later, at 14:00.
If it was phrased as “the meeting has moved UP two hours”, I would think it was earlier. But saying it “moved FORWARD”, I think of it as moved forward in time and is therefore later.
Yeah, exactly! When I say the meeting is moved “back” I would say that it was moved later in time. E.g, we didn’t have the meeting today; so we moved it back to tomorrow. Very helpful comment.
Colin Graham for me that means it was once tomorrow
If someone told me a meeting had been moved UP, I'd need them to clarify.
You can't move up through the time dimension. You can only move forwards or backwards through time as the way we percieve time only accounts for one dimension.
Saying the meeting has moved up is like saying it's been moved to an alternate timeline in my mind.
@@SamuraiPipotchi it's like in a classroom. u move up to the front or move back. it's usually understood. nobody thinks u're actually movin to a higher plane
To move something forward means it happens at an earlier point. Hence 10am is the only correct answer - not a perception or opinion - it’s fact. I’m quite baffled that this isn’t common knowledge tbh
if it was “brought forward” 2 hours, i’d say 10am, and “pushed back” 2 hours, i’d say 2pm
Yes!! Exactly!! I don’t think people in my circle (NE Scotland) would say ‘moved’ forward or back. We’d say ‘brought forward’ or ‘pushed back’, which is unambiguous here. When he said ‘moved forward’ I heard ‘brought forward’ so obviously thought 10am.
It's not brought forward, it's "moved forward" so it was at 12 noon and it has been MOVED FORWARD so it's at 2 pm now. And simply, pushed back means it has been pushed in the past so it's at 10 am now
thanks@@HemantSharma-xp4ey , but we did listen to the original video and heard the words the men spoke.
What we're saying is that in our cultures no one would use the phrase "moved forward" because it can be interpreted two ways.
And anyone I speak to about meeting times in my culture would understand "pushed back" to mean "pushed away from us" therefore making it later in the day: so I don't think it's as simple as you suppose.
WAIT at first I was a 2pm person but then after reading this I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE
If someone told you to change your clocks by saying "move/turn your clock forward 1 hour" you'd be setting it to a later time. 1am --> 2am. "Spring *forward*, fall back"
This reminded me of the 2018 TED talk by Lera Boroditsky. For the Kuuk Thaayorre, time is locked on the landscape. It's a dramatically different way of thinking about time.
Very interesting! Ipaused the video at the beginning to think about this question. At first I thought it meant the meeting was no 10:00am since to push back a meeting usually means it's later, but then I thought it must actually mean that it will take place 2 hours forward in time. I spent 5 minutes trying to reconcile the two but realized I couldn't. More context was needed. Then I watched the rest of the video and realized why.
'Moved forward' could either mean that the event has been moved forwards in time (the way I interpreted it) or that it’s been moved forwards to the front of the que before others. It's nothing to do with your entire perception of time, it's just vaguely worded.
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That logic could be used to defend a lot of strange arguments, conspiracy theories, religion, and superstition. Risky way of thinking.
And this way of thinking is causing a mess in the world right now.
@@__-rb9st. Observations are relative, depending on your point of view.
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This was such an interesting video! I'm part of the "10AM" crew and my dad is "2PM." Fascinating!
My repsonse is the 2pm, I can understand the 10am perspective too after watching this video. Thank you
Personally, I’m team 2pm, but if the senario were to be stated as “moved up 2 hours” it would definitely be at 10am.
People say moved up? Like ever?
@@George-ps5 Yes. Though it's usually phrased differently, as in "Can we move this meeting up to 10 AM?" rather than "Can we move the meeting up two hours?"
My exact thoughts! Or even "push the meeting up" makes me think of it being earlier, whereas the "move the meeting forward" made me think later. Wild!
No moved down
But, it says Wednesday noon.
The meeting’s at 10am for me. To me moving something “forward” means it’s happening sooner, it’s been brought closer to me. For me to think that the meeting is at 2pm, it would have been “delayed” two hours. I’m also one of the people that thinks the holidays are “coming”.
I'm a 2pm person, but I 100% agree on your argument. It is also a thing on what your parents used and your friends use. Are you an english speaking person? Because in germany we rather use the equivalent to "earlier" (and "later") insted of "forward". "Forward" might be further in the future or earlier in time. Exactly what they explain, you are moving forward to reach year 2021, so moving a meeting "forward" could mean further away (= 2pm people)
thank you! I am not native to English and had a hard time to understand the whole concept! thx
Dude, I could not comprehend how someone could think it is 10AM. Thank you for breaking it down.
Fascinating. Thank you for explaining your thoughts! ♡ I'm a 2pm person and have such a hard time understanding using forward to mean earlier, although you explained it so simply.
I think I'd compare my thinking to using the forward button while watching a movie. Pressing that button moves us ahead, that is, to a later time or scene. I literally picture a movable me on an unchangeable time line.
From what I understand, you picture it coming forward - that is, toward you? So you are still and things in time come forward that way?
I am nit a native English speaker, and I thought the term '' move forward '' means the meeting will be held earlier so I am a 10am person, cause now I am waiting for my '' entry to university''(an event) to come, instead of me going to the university
Great video! I might use this in my next video: About time, and how Earthlings perceive it.
I always get confused when something is pushed back or moved forward. So when they originally posed the question, I said 2pm. However, I'm used to people saying a meeting is pushed back (delayed) and thinking that it's earlier. I trained myself to understand something being "pushed back"means the time is later despite my instincts saying otherwise.
However, when asked about the holidays, I perceive them as coming. The notion of me "getting to the holidays"feels incredibly foreign to me. I think it's interesting how split I am as just one human being, and how the context changed my perception of time. Great video!
I thought “If the meeting gets pushed back 2 hours, then it would be 2PM.”....so then if it’s moved forward, then it would be 10AM.
How? Moving clockwise is forward and moving anti clockwise is backwards.
Actually, for the first time I was reading it, I thought it's gonna be 2am 😅
@@marksilla8276 I thought this, too. But see other argument: if an even it's pushed forward, it means it's earlier in the day. Pushing back is means further away or later.
I understand it , but it's not as natural me because I'm visual. Forward to me means later because that's how clocks work. Backwards to me means sooner.
Move forward from the time it was supposed to have originally been which is 2pm.
I see it as, we count up right? Otherwise forward. So let's say a meeting today is at 3 pm. 2 hours forward is 3 + 2 which = 5 (pm). 2 hours backwards would be 3 - 2 which = 1(pm).
I perceive Time in the only correct way: Spirographs.
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No, it's like a RUclips timeline bar, you just decide when to be.
my brain is mush
My first thought was that the meeting was a 2pm, but usually when I think of something being "ahead" of schedule, it means it is early, so I don't know why I didn't process the word "forward" the same way. I do think of the future as the forward direction and the past as backward... idk
1: "The meeting was moved forward from 10am to 2pm."
2: "The meeting was pushed back from 10am to 2pm."
The more I look at these sentences the more confused I get.
Sentence 1 makes sense because going forward is going into the future.
Sentence 2 also makes sense because it's like the meeting was pushed back on my to-do list, so I don't have to think about it until later.
I think it depends how often you've been in business settings, and how long you thought about the question.
I instinctively thought 2PM because of the word "forward". Thought of a clock, 12 being the top, forward being the right hand direction.
But I was thinking to quickly, when I thought about why it might be 10, I realised my error.
In a business setting, schedules are prioritised and full of things that need to be done in a particular order. When we talk about "moving" things forward or backwards, think about a set of cards with tasks to be completed in order front to back.
If you are asked to move things "forward in your agenda", you take the card in question (meeting) and bring it forward in priority (front). So it takes place earlier as it is more important "forward" by two hours.
If you were asked to move something "back" it would take place later on because it's further back in the agenda.
I don't really think that how you answer this question says anything about us or how we perceive time, as much as it does about how we approach language without totally clear instructions.
We can't "see" time, therefore we can't "see ourselves" moving through time in different ways, in my opinion. Time itself is a constant, from our human perspective at least.
How much time we feel has elapsed since certain events, and how long we feel we have to wait for things to happen is something that we can "feel" different about in our brains though. Based on our estimates of how long increments of measured time take, in the case of when our shift ends for example. How many memories were formed during and after certain events, how long months and years feel to us, and how old we are will make us feel different about how long ago things were. We may feel like the first half of our shift at work flew by, but the second half is taking forever (despite them being the identical length of time on the clock). Or we may feel like the birth of a family member feels like only a couple of years ago, despite them being a teenager now. Years feel like a smaller amount of time the older we get as fractionally they become a smaller percentage of your life year after year.
im on the ego moving perspective, but it may be because the word for "forward" in my mother language spanish is "adelantar/avanzar" which all have to do with going ahead, further. and we think of the future as something that is in front of us. so I've always associated "forward" with the future.
Same here ! I'm French and "forward" would be translated as "avancer", in this case. Therefore, I don't understand how "forward" can mean going backwards. Mind blowing topic !
Yep me too! I'm Dutch, same thing
No? Si a mí me dicen que se ha adelantado, sin duda sería dos horas antes, a las 10am!
I'm Italian and I asked all my family about this and they all turned out to have the ego moving perspective, but also the words avanti, antes and avant used to mean or still mean before... so I guess there are other linguistic factors that influence our perspective of time.
I'm so glad that science channels on youtube are finally talking about linguistics more and more because it IS science.
There’s a fascinating study on this and related questions like this called “The Experiential Basis of Meaning”. Anyone interested in fictive motion, or even skeptical that it may just be a linguistic problem should give it a read!
You can't even find this journal by searching its title exactly, and just because someone did a study on it doesn't mean it can't be a mostly linguistic trick. People did scientific journals about cigarettes being good for you. Doesn't mean anything.
Actually, i searched it and it popped up first result. Its from the proceedings of the annual meeting of the cognitive science society
Eric Alvarez I didn’t say it was a linguistic trick. I said that if you think it may be a linguistic trick you should read it, because it claims otherwise.
Whoever is reading this I hope you have a great rest of your day and keep growing as a person!! :)
Hello, im from Brazil and our language(Brazilian portuguese) has a word for every action or situation. We do not have your time perspective problem because our language has especific word for time placement. So if the meeting were moved forward we have a word for that, and if it has been moved backwards we would also have a word to clarify that. Besides that, our hour system is 24h format, not 12 as yours. So 2PM is actually 14hours for us.
I have a time moving perception, and after watching this video I can see the logic behind both perspectives. Thanks Asap Science! 👍 #10 am gang
Same, I said 2pm but I feel like I've had both perspectives with time before and understand it all.
My immediate response was, “I’d ask for clarification about the time because this isn’t clear.”
A realist
Me too. I work in a job where everyone is in different time zones, so I'm used to asking for clarification.
This is correct.
this is the most correct answer
This is true. I read the question and immediately knew my reaction would be to check the calendar or to ask: "So 2pm?"
I would interpret "moved forward 2 hours" and "moved back 2 hours" to both mean the meeting is at 2pm. If the meeting is at 10am, I would say it's moved up 2 hours
Right ...
So forward and back are now both the same direction ?!
I think I agree with this. When I imagine "up" I think of a rising or ascension whereas "forward" is moving towards the future. I'd imagine the highest ascension being morning and the opposite of this to be night so moving up is ascending closer to morning.
same! Don't know why forward and back somehow are the same, but they are to me in this context
yes yes and yes 100% agree
Same “forward” and “back” mean 2pm. But if someone said “moved ahead 2 hrs” I would now think 10am.
This is crazy and I wonder if it’s different for the time-movers.
When I finished watching this video and checked the clock in my living room the hands were at 10 and 2. 10:10am.
It's a sign
That’s why I describe time in regards to left or right. English speakers intuitively associate left with past and right with future. The meeting got moved to right or left.
Here’s my problem: when I hear “wednesdays noon meeting has been pushed forward two hours”, I think 2 pm. But when I hear “wednesdays meeting has been pushed BACK two hours” I also think it’s at 2 pm. I think the reason why I think this way, is because both ways of phrasing this kind of thing are used, but in almost every context most meetings are delayed rather than expedited. Since both perspectives are relative neither is correct, so rather than have to rely on context cues, people should use the words after/before because then it fixes the perspective to be in terms of the event (ie ego moving perspective). For example, no one will confuse the phrase “wednesdays noon meeting is taking place 2 hours after its previously scheduled time”.
Yeah who the hell would want to make a meeting SOONER and only 2 hours sooner?? Huh.
That actually makes a lot more sense
Take the antithesis. Does anyone think that a meeting “moved back” makes the meeting at 10am?
Obviously yes
Nope
@@MaddyMayMay yes
Yes, obviously!
Of course not, though I’d usually say “pushed back” because that way the meaning is more clear (think physically pushing the meeting farther from you in time).
This was a little confusing at first but now I think that it's amazing 😂😂😂
I believe time perception is also based on context and the words used. The meeting moved forward would be at 2pm in my interpretation, but if you told me we moved the meeting up I would interpret it as sooner, like you’ve moved it to a higher priority of listed things to be done.
2pm. For me, it just seems logical to assume that by saying the meeting was “moved forward”, the implication is that the meeting was moved toward the future as we (English speakers) see time moving in one direction: from past to future. Therefore, saying the meeting was moved forward means that the meeting was moved forward in time. If the saying was rather “the meeting was moved forward towards you”, the implied time would objectively be 10am.
Finally a comment that helps me understand the 10am side of things.
...but if a meeting was pushed back 2 hours, you'd say that it is at 2 PM, and by using the logic that forward is the opposite of backward, the meeting time must go the opposite way in time as if it is being pushed back, so you can reason that it is at 10.
@@alexanderb4818 front is the opposite of back, no one says the meeting was moved "backwards." They also said moved and not pushed . Little things like this make all the difference.
The ambivalence lies in the term "forward" This is what throws people off
I actually think the word "push" is what messes people up. Pushing something almost always means _away_ . So to push it forwards should mean to have the meeting later, seeing as how pushing it forwards would mean _away_ from the current time it is set to.
Rather than arguing about either the person or time as being the thing we base relativity off of, it should be the meeting.
I think you mean "ambiguous" ambivalent means something very different
I think this also has to do with how time is read on a traditional clock. The hands would move forward or ahead by 2 hours, making it 10am.
This is so mind boggling 😱🙏🏾❤️😬👍🏾