How do I install this on Ubuntu? When I manually disable pulseaudio and enable pipewire using systemctl it just doesn't work. I installed all the required dependencies.
I know you video was from little over 2 years ago and that self-deprecating humor was a common joke back then but I want to take time in the modern time to say to you. Your content is no trash by any means, this video was fantastic, I'm pretty sure you know that and my message isn't very useful but in case : that video truly was amazing
i would switch to pipewire right now, if it would have a fully functioning easy to understand volume mixer like pavucontrol/alsamixer that actually saves your volume levels. are there any programs that do just that for pipewire?
@@24wherath36 i did have it installed, but i think i know what the problem was, i installed pipewire and pipewire-alsa and pipewire-pulse, and then i enabled the 'pipewire' service (on void linux with runit) and audio worked great (also pulseaudio only programs like chromium worked with no issues) but pavucontrol just did not work that way, and alsamixer did not save my configuration no matter what i did.
pipewire is 3 different actual commands: pipewire, pipewire-pulse, and the media session. pipewire-media-session is the old media session, wireplumber is newer and more stable in my experience
audio from fresh intstall unmodified is completely messed up. speakers buzz like they’re shorting, output device options have disappeared in sound settings. somehow everything has installed wrong, I’ve been trying to fix it with chat-GPT. pipewire refuses to start for some reason.
For some odd reason, whenever I hear Undertale OST, it just makes me happy or feel nostalgic for some reason, or even feel sad. Thanks for the tutorial, O Mighty Denshi!
trying to install pipewire-jack requires replacing jack but many packages are dependent. Do you have a well-made guide on how to make the complete switch to pipewire?
programs like carla might not work easily without jack; I didn't experience this when switching over personally, most programs are fine with the switch.
How to you get it to remember different things? Like I assigned discord to some outputs, but I guess discord is running chrome on the backend. I will open a tab in my web broswer and pipewire thinks it's my discord output. Very confusing.
How to do that Just with obs studio and Mixxx? I mean I'm a streamer and I need to grab sound from Mixxx to obs studio and I want to hear it in my speakers, but sometimes I need to Open chrome and listem something, but I don't wanna put that to stream. How I can do it with it?
I used to casually game on a customized Debian Stable system. It used Pulse Audio. Pulse didn't work perfect at first, but 3 small changes in the server settings made it perfect. It worked with my Bluetooth headphones and there was no crackling in games after the simple tweaks. Pipewire on the other hand, I used on a Garuda system. It didn't work with my headphones and it crackled in games.
Sorry about that, my microphone was dying at the time and I didn't know. I have a new one now and no noise is audible on recordings with Pipewire. I'd also like to add that Pipewire can be tweaked and may require some tweaking depending on the intensity of the audio work you might be doing, especially when lower latency is required.
Keep in mind. Pipewire will not work well with the Sound Blaster XFi series. I got a XFi Titanium Fata1ity and I have trouble with hardware mixing and it keeps playing sound from microphone The problem disappeared after I roll back to PulseAudio
I don't undertand why everybody seems to have many different options and the only two options I see are 14:Midi Through and 14:Midi Through... What am I doing wrong? My headset with microphone are connected and so are my stereo speakers but I see NOTHING.
need to uninstall pipewire. can't do it. googled the hell out of it, followed every tip i found. pipewire sound server remains active, cannot remove it. the reason i want it gone is that i want to run Cardinal Modular Synthesizer Native and due to pipewire, no audio output from this software is visible to the mixer (or qpwgraph). Same with Vital Synthesizer Standalone.
Did you end up succeeding ? From the various comments read here and in other vids comments, Pipewire seems like a LOT of trouble and conflicts. But vid is 2 years old and some comments 1 year old. So maybe things are better now? Maybe new recent distros fix these issues?
@@SynthOSphere it's smoothed out, but it wasn't fun to transition from an existing system when it was still new. i don't know what it does still to this day. one more name in a list of thousands of names of different software libraries and codecs and drivers to be aware of. but in this case on a new install, i just picked pipewire i think, but maybe it's considered a default now on arch. fine with me as long as it works. so far so good on vanilla arch.
I want desktop effects. I hate when I can't watch something silently like tv shows or movies where voices are silent but explosions are really loud... So I want limiter and EQ at desktop level. I also want to record desktop audio when ever I want. I dont know why do we have to wait for something to appear in Windows to become Linux standard.
I had pulseaudio running PERFECT, even with an eight core kernel compile, no stuttering. Now Ubuntu 23.04 introduced pipewire and audio stutters BADLY with nothing else running except wine / Winamp as audio source. And this on an 8core i7-9900k clocked at 4.9ghz with 32GB of RAM and a WD 2TB SSD nvme, ought to be more than sufficient resources for the task and with pulse it was. I thought nobody could possibly write more fucked up code than Poettering but the authors of pipewire have no dispelled me of that belief. Of course if there were some documentation showing how to increase buffer sizes to stop the underruns that might be helpful but there is a total dirth of documentation.
Modern linux developers take the Apple approach by telling you what you need. Difference is that Apple can actually enforce changes and keep things consistent, whereas on Linux we just keep getting more and more and more fragmentation.
@@MisakaMikotoDesu That is the BIGGEST issue for me with Linux right now (has been for years and why I left years ago but it wasn’t very mature back then. Now more mature and user friendly, but even more fragmentation… Bad)
Oh, so that's how people do spamming music directly into the online games voice chats... Ну а так в целом, вообще классная тема, всегда хотел подобного контроля над звуком пока пользовался виндой. От души Денши, спасибо.
i keep beeing impressed by your talking abilities, it may sound weird, but there are so many youtubers out there who do a good job with the video and even have their audio in good shape, but then talk you into suicide with the most boring voice or speech pattern, or they have the most evil dialect. not much they can do about that, i know, but then there is your videos and it comes to my recognition how bad other videos sometimes are :) aah luxury problems...
...it was just that easy, huh? i'd been wanting to get my guitar rig through to discord for years. windows? almost impossible without incurring massive latencies on both speaker and listener. incredible how simple that is.
But you can use Jack with Pipewire as he seems to be doing in this video (JackCTL). Is that correct? I've read that Pipewire + Jack offers better latency than PulseAudio + Jack.
@@NathanShirley I know, hence my comment that Pipewire is not a Jack replacement. Pulse Audio in combination with Jack is more flexible, stable in my experience (my reasonable extended homestudio runs exclusive on GNU/Linux) than Pipewire. Every time I see an update of Pipewire I fear what will happen to my system. Routing in Carla is so much more flexible than any of the graphical solutions build on Pipewire. And Carla runs really bad in Pipewire if at all. I think pipewire is build with gamers/streamers in mind, and not with people who could really benefit from an audioserver overhaul on GNU/Linux, namely musicians and audio producers.
@@DeRaafMedia That's good to know. I'm currently using PulseAudio + Jack, but on a new laptop have run into what appears to be a conflict between something Jack is doing and the computer. I'm running Mint/Cinnamon which in 21 seems to be more friendly towards Pipewire, so have been considering giving it a try.
@@NathanShirley At the moment I experience the whole audio server landscape on Linux as a bit of a cluster F" . Was really hoping pipewire could set historical "errors" right, but that hope decreased a bit after working with it in the practice of my home studio. Now Pulse (some plugins don't work with pipewire), Pipewire (some plugins don´t work well with Pulse) and Jack (well Jack seem to be all confused at the moment) are giving me grieve ... Personally not a really fun time, not getting the things done that I want to get done,. Even thinking about a Windows partition, but that would be the worst choice by far to make IMHO.
@@NathanShirley At the moment the practical implementation of the whole audio server landscape on GNU/Linux is a bit of a cluster F" IMHO. It even tempts me with the thought installing a Windows partition on my system for audio production. Worst thing is the really, really bad documentation of pipewire in particular .
So we replace OSS with ALSA, then we decide that we need pulse, then we decide that pulse is not enough and we need pipewire on top of that. What's next? SystemD audio?
Amazingly, working directly with the kernel isn't exactly easy or fun, Pulse was a needed innovation to bring a common api that supports things like yknow, applications having independent volumes, mind boggling features I know. PW isn't running so much ontop of pulse as much as it is remplementing it, you cant even have the standard pulse server installed at the same time. PW simply allows all the standards to talk to one another in a seamless way + decent screensharing support.
welp when manjaro got updated it installed pipewire soo.... yeh cool it is nice I don't have to fiddle with pulse audio equaliser to make my headphones sound better enough with the sss ssss in videos 😆.
Most underrated tutorial channel in existence
The background music keeps it down.
Your enthusiastic presentation style feels really good! keep it up!
This is great. I have a home recording studio and this will hugely simplify matters. Many thanks for the info.
Hey Denshi, could you please share the background music that is playing at 1:06? Thanks in advance!
it's the "Map" song from the SNES videogame, Waterworld.
@@Denshi Thank you! It really felt familiar. I should've know by the synth sound. That game has really a great soundtrack.
Wish you the best!
@@mateusgomes1086 Ah, I knew someone would ask! The song sounded so familiar I just had to find it.
This is the second new video I've watched about Pipewire today. Looks like Pipewire is gaining traction, which is nice to see!
I wish I had found this video this past weekend! This has been a HUGE help for sure! And it's not 6 years old and outdated either. :)
How do I install this on Ubuntu? When I manually disable pulseaudio and enable pipewire using systemctl it just doesn't work. I installed all the required dependencies.
You're supposed to use sudo and then type in the following command to install pipewire
@@Soraviel If I don't use sudo it will obviously return an error
What's the song that starts at 0:42 ?
I know you video was from little over 2 years ago and that self-deprecating humor was a common joke back then but I want to take time in the modern time to say to you.
Your content is no trash by any means, this video was fantastic, I'm pretty sure you know that and my message isn't very useful but in case : that video truly was amazing
i would switch to pipewire right now, if it would have a fully functioning easy to understand volume mixer like pavucontrol/alsamixer that actually saves your volume levels. are there any programs that do just that for pipewire?
uum pavucontrol also works fine for pipewire
thats what I also use
@@drishalballaney didnt work for me when i tried
@@kekbin_xd Did you have pipewire-pulse installed? Also try restarting after installation.
@@24wherath36 aah yes ig pipewire pulse might be missing for him
@@24wherath36 i did have it installed, but i think i know what the problem was, i installed pipewire and pipewire-alsa and pipewire-pulse, and then i enabled the 'pipewire' service (on void linux with runit) and audio worked great (also pulseaudio only programs like chromium worked with no issues) but pavucontrol just did not work that way, and alsamixer did not save my configuration no matter what i did.
Installed it like you in the video but got the error jackd -v -S -dalsa -dhw:0 how do I fix it ?
How can I use it to mix my usb audio and built in audio? Any time I open JACK usb audio starts to be unavailbale for the system sounds...
I've just been using the "pipewire-media-session" this entire time, should I switch to the pulse/jack instead? Or "WirePlumber" maybe?
pipewire is 3 different actual commands: pipewire, pipewire-pulse, and the media session. pipewire-media-session is the old media session, wireplumber is newer and more stable in my experience
audio from fresh intstall unmodified is completely messed up. speakers buzz like they’re shorting, output device options have disappeared in sound settings. somehow everything has installed wrong, I’ve been trying to fix it with chat-GPT. pipewire refuses to start for some reason.
For some odd reason, whenever I hear Undertale OST, it just makes me happy or feel nostalgic for some reason, or even feel sad. Thanks for the tutorial, O Mighty Denshi!
The addition of Undertale music in the background is a nice touch 👌
Awesome video Denshi. An interesting channel you have going on. 😊
trying to install pipewire-jack requires replacing jack but many packages are dependent. Do you have a well-made guide on how to make the complete switch to pipewire?
programs like carla might not work easily without jack; I didn't experience this when switching over personally, most programs are fine with the switch.
what about precision sync in multiple audio channels, especially via ethernet in smart home, and writing your own plugins for DSP processing?
How to you get it to remember different things? Like I assigned discord to some outputs, but I guess discord is running chrome on the backend. I will open a tab in my web broswer and pipewire thinks it's my discord output. Very confusing.
Hey man, do you use wireplumber or pipewire-media-session?
Thanks! I had no idea what jack is haha. You help me a lot.
How to do that Just with obs studio and Mixxx? I mean I'm a streamer and I need to grab sound from Mixxx to obs studio and I want to hear it in my speakers, but sometimes I need to Open chrome and listem something, but I don't wanna put that to stream. How I can do it with it?
I did a fresh install of arch using archinstall but audio doesn’t work (pipewire)
Is there any guide out there that explains how to install Pipewire if I don't already have Pulse Audio?
How do I install pulsemeeter on my chromebook?
how do I get drivers into Jack?
hey denshi what colorscheme is that
I used to casually game on a customized Debian Stable system. It used Pulse Audio. Pulse didn't work perfect at first, but 3 small changes in the server settings made it perfect. It worked with my Bluetooth headphones and there was no crackling in games after the simple tweaks. Pipewire on the other hand, I used on a Garuda system. It didn't work with my headphones and it crackled in games.
you have any tutorial to do this with ubuntu?
How to install PipeWire in Linux Mint 21.3?
please helpme now i cant hear nothign, in settings only appears "Dummy Output"
have you installed sof-firmware?
Pipewire bloat. you all better be listening to the beeps and bloops directly from the cpu and converting that code into audio in your head.
Fr fr
😂😂
😂😂😂😂
what wm are you using?
Could you link the piano track you used in the background? It's pretty.
The first track is the select screen from Wii Sports Resort: ruclips.net/video/x1WE4T8pdJs/видео.html
What distro are you using?
Arch Linux.
@@AzatskyDungeonMaster great
@@AzatskyDungeonMaster btw
how do i get my alsa working again ?
Switching to console from X(ie alt+ctrl+f1) disconnect bluetooth, anybody knows the solution for this?
The static buzz going through the whole voiceover speaks volumes.
Sorry about that, my microphone was dying at the time and I didn't know. I have a new one now and no noise is audible on recordings with Pipewire.
I'd also like to add that Pipewire can be tweaked and may require some tweaking depending on the intensity of the audio work you might be doing, especially when lower latency is required.
I can't get Reaper working as a Jack client with Pipewire.
Keep in mind. Pipewire will not work well with the Sound Blaster XFi series. I got a XFi Titanium Fata1ity and I have trouble with hardware mixing and it keeps playing sound from microphone
The problem disappeared after I roll back to PulseAudio
My airpods pro 2 don’t work with pipewire, but they work under pulseaudio.
I will switch once they work.
Thanks thats the solution i was searching for to record game audio only in obs..
+++
Thank you! Finally Jack works on my PC!
I don't undertand why everybody seems to have many different options and the only two options I see are 14:Midi Through and 14:Midi Through...
What am I doing wrong? My headset with microphone are connected and so are my stereo speakers but I see NOTHING.
need to uninstall pipewire. can't do it. googled the hell out of it, followed every tip i found. pipewire sound server remains active, cannot remove it. the reason i want it gone is that i want to run Cardinal Modular Synthesizer Native and due to pipewire, no audio output from this software is visible to the mixer (or qpwgraph). Same with Vital Synthesizer Standalone.
Did you end up succeeding ? From the various comments read here and in other vids comments, Pipewire seems like a LOT of trouble and conflicts. But vid is 2 years old and some comments 1 year old. So maybe things are better now? Maybe new recent distros fix these issues?
@@SynthOSphere it's smoothed out, but it wasn't fun to transition from an existing system when it was still new. i don't know what it does still to this day. one more name in a list of thousands of names of different software libraries and codecs and drivers to be aware of. but in this case on a new install, i just picked pipewire i think, but maybe it's considered a default now on arch. fine with me as long as it works. so far so good on vanilla arch.
Very nice demo, thank you very much
You are awesome, thanks for the vid!
if you use qpwgraph instead of qjqackctl you have camera control on the nodes
I want desktop effects. I hate when I can't watch something silently like tv shows or movies where
voices are silent but explosions are really loud... So I want limiter and EQ at desktop level.
I also want to record desktop audio when ever I want.
I dont know why do we have to wait for something to appear in Windows to become Linux standard.
Waiting for the day we can say the same about wayland.
PW was really weird for me on gentoo and can't use combo ports, and it's also incompatible with any other *NIX like JACK PulseAudio are.
sndio better.
OSS ftw
@@kantraa PC speaker for the kings
@Watcher just recompiled and nope, the combo jack still doesn't work.
Your video is really amazing
Jeez. Every time I watch one of you videos i get smarter. Thanks for that.😎
I had pulseaudio running PERFECT, even with an eight core kernel compile, no stuttering. Now Ubuntu 23.04 introduced pipewire and audio stutters BADLY with nothing else running except wine / Winamp as audio source. And this on an 8core i7-9900k clocked at 4.9ghz with 32GB of RAM and a WD 2TB SSD nvme, ought to be more than sufficient resources for the task and with pulse it was. I thought nobody could possibly write more fucked up code than Poettering but the authors of pipewire have no dispelled me of that belief. Of course if there were some documentation showing how to increase buffer sizes to stop the underruns that might be helpful but there is a total dirth of documentation.
Modern linux developers take the Apple approach by telling you what you need. Difference is that Apple can actually enforce changes and keep things consistent, whereas on Linux we just keep getting more and more and more fragmentation.
@@MisakaMikotoDesu That is the BIGGEST issue for me with Linux right now (has been for years and why I left years ago but it wasn’t very mature back then. Now more mature and user friendly, but even more fragmentation… Bad)
This is insane 😮
Ok, will give it a try.
I use pure ALSA, does everything I need to.
Im having Jack2 instead of pipevire-jack and it works pretty well so I will not bother downgrading.
Oh, so that's how people do spamming music directly into the online games voice chats...
Ну а так в целом, вообще классная тема, всегда хотел подобного контроля над звуком пока пользовался виндой.
От души Денши, спасибо.
No, they mostly use smth like SoundPad
Awesome !
It doesn't work for Linux Mint 20
A very consise and non-autistic introduction into the topic. Cheers mate, that's some high quality content right there
i keep beeing impressed by your talking abilities, it may sound weird, but there are so many youtubers out there who do a good job with the video and even have their audio in good shape, but then talk you into suicide with the most boring voice or speech pattern, or they have the most evil dialect. not much they can do about that, i know, but then there is your videos and it comes to my recognition how bad other videos sometimes are :)
aah luxury problems...
Another great topic, where Linux now does it better then window. Great!
...it was just that easy, huh? i'd been wanting to get my guitar rig through to discord for years. windows? almost impossible without incurring massive latencies on both speaker and listener. incredible how simple that is.
What the hell is wrong with your voice. It’s so damn soothing.
denshi audio production gaming
Man, I love Linux!
Pipewire solved a lot of my audio problems.
Not for Sound Blaster XFi sadly I have more problems with Pipewire
I think Pipewire is more for Realtek onboard audio
Okay, I'm gonna send it. Here's hoping it doesn't JACK up my system... :P
Still using pure ALSA. I don't see any reason why I shouldn't.
that was great... thank you|!
ooooooh WaterWorld ost
Routing audio streams is one thing, more important for audio production is latency. Pipewire is not a Jack replacment in that regards.
But you can use Jack with Pipewire as he seems to be doing in this video (JackCTL). Is that correct? I've read that Pipewire + Jack offers better latency than PulseAudio + Jack.
@@NathanShirley I know, hence my comment that Pipewire is not a Jack replacement. Pulse Audio in combination with Jack is more flexible, stable in my experience (my reasonable extended homestudio runs exclusive on GNU/Linux) than Pipewire. Every time I see an update of Pipewire I fear what will happen to my system. Routing in Carla is so much more flexible than any of the graphical solutions build on Pipewire. And Carla runs really bad in Pipewire if at all.
I think pipewire is build with gamers/streamers in mind, and not with people who could really benefit from an audioserver overhaul on GNU/Linux, namely musicians and audio producers.
@@DeRaafMedia That's good to know. I'm currently using PulseAudio + Jack, but on a new laptop have run into what appears to be a conflict between something Jack is doing and the computer. I'm running Mint/Cinnamon which in 21 seems to be more friendly towards Pipewire, so have been considering giving it a try.
@@NathanShirley At the moment I experience the whole audio server landscape on Linux as a bit of a cluster F" .
Was really hoping pipewire could set historical "errors" right, but that hope decreased a bit after working with it in the practice of my home studio.
Now Pulse (some plugins don't work with pipewire), Pipewire (some plugins don´t work well with Pulse) and Jack (well Jack seem to be all confused at the moment) are giving me grieve ... Personally not a really fun time, not getting the things done that I want to get done,.
Even thinking about a Windows partition, but that would be the worst choice by far to make IMHO.
@@NathanShirley At the moment the practical implementation of the whole audio server landscape on GNU/Linux is a bit of a cluster F" IMHO. It even tempts me with the thought installing a Windows partition on my system for audio production.
Worst thing is the really, really bad documentation of pipewire in particular .
it says pipewire-jack is non existant :(
the background music looks like donkey kong
So we replace OSS with ALSA, then we decide that we need pulse, then we decide that pulse is not enough and we need pipewire on top of that. What's next? SystemD audio?
Amazingly, working directly with the kernel isn't exactly easy or fun, Pulse was a needed innovation to bring a common api that supports things like yknow, applications having independent volumes, mind boggling features I know. PW isn't running so much ontop of pulse as much as it is remplementing it, you cant even have the standard pulse server installed at the same time. PW simply allows all the standards to talk to one another in a seamless way + decent screensharing support.
pipewire-jack: command not found.
I'm a Linux noob but do you have jack installed and yes try looking if there isn't a file broken or missing
welp when manjaro got updated it installed pipewire soo.... yeh cool it is nice I don't have to fiddle with pulse audio equaliser to make my headphones sound better enough with the sss ssss in videos 😆.
Manjaro is crap
Waw !
too bad it is not actually that simple to get running lol
yeah
Windows Users : 😭
Pipewire sucks no HDMI settings and no snd he's codecs I can't get sound on my computer send days trying
pipewire gives me worse performance. sound feels flatter and less dynamic
This is a fantastic video, but for the love of god, PLEASE get a better microphone or do some post-processing on your audio.
LowTierLatency
maybe you should also stop verbally abusing people on discord :eyes:
0:43 some snes central (overworld).spc
2:40 undetale
класс