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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Thanks to Dr. Henry Killinger, the Venture family just got a little more dysfunctional.
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I think Killenger knew Doc wouldn’t sign in the end. He was there to help Rusty realize he was on the wrong path in life. Killenger also helped Monarch pushing him to be better. Seems to me that Killenger was helping the real Venture Brothers.
Holy shit. I just realized the namesake of the show "The Venture Bros" is not about Hank and Dean.
@@XAbbeldydooX,
Venture Bro Fans From 2003:
*_First_* *_time?_*
Its because Kissenger is probably the real Jonas Venture beneath that mask
@@TheFarmerboyproducti ...umm, nope?
Killinger wasn't even helping the Monarch be a better villain, he was setting the stage for Dr Girlfriend and The Monarch getting back together and eventually marrying, I think you're right with Rusty too, either choice he picks, being a hero or villain, thats his decision and it solidifies the path he'll take in life
I kinda want them to do a "what if" one-off episode where Rusty did sign the contract. Like, fast forward a few years to when he's fully embraced the role. Bonus points if it's actually improved him as a person. Like he's happier and more confident, genuinely good to his henchmen/employees, less of a selfish asshole, has a better relationship with his kids, etc.
I just think it would be funny if costumed supervillainy turned out to be great therapy to help him get over his issues.
Monarch would go full Blue Morpho on him, just for the sake of fucking with Venture.
Honestly I feel the monarch is solely a bad guy just so he can fight rusty. So I’m inclined to believe he would do that. Also 69th like woohoo!
I was just thinking, I wonder if else world Dr. Venture, (via Fat Chance) is just Dr. Venture if he took Killingers deal.
J South I don’t think so. That dr. Venture was wearing a Jonas venture-esque suit. Not the Lex Luthor one here. Now it’s entirely plausible he could be, but the evidence suggests he’s just a better version rusty. Now if I had to guess that universes Jonas was also a better person/father, this resulting in a healthier rusty.
@@BeavisSaves The story of Cain and Abel and Super Cain
Funny part about this is that Monarch is the son of Blur Morpho. If he found out Rusty turned, he probably would have secretly arched him as a good guy. Whatever side his rival is on, he has to be on the opposite end no?
Imagine
Cain vs. Abel, Hercules vs. Ares, Loki vs. Thor, Rusty vs. Malcolm.
See, now that's something I didn't factor in. That Killinger would have *never* done this if he thought there was a chance of Venture accepting. The unbalance it would cause The Monarch.
No, this whole excerisize was to show Rusty that he was living like a supervillain, that he either needed to embrace it or turn away from it, but sitting on that fence, living with the questions his lifestyle produced, was destroying him.
He's still the same flawed individual he was, Killinger just cleaned off the lens Rusty viewed life through a little
this comment just made me realize; the color scheme and general tone of Rusty's supervillain outfit is the same as Vendata, aka Venturion, aka Blue Morpho
I wonder if that was intentional?
**spoilers**
Given Jonas's talk with The Blue Morpho in season seven, I got the impression that what Jonas did to help his wife get pregnant was to knock her up himself.
That then led me to think that Jonas left his friend to raise his son.
I think one of the coolest take aways of this whole episode is simply that JJ never learns of it. There was never a spiteful moment where Rusty mutters that he could have arched JJ and stolen something instead of asking JJ for a loan, or even a confessional moment where Rusty tells JJ what happened and they talk about their position as brothers. It's a heavy decision that Rusty had the strength to do by himself, and then JJ passes away, never having known how much Rusty selflessly put aside
A part of me really wished he'd have signed the contract, just to see the direction the Ventures and the show would have taken it. But ultimately, he's a flawed (but not evil) person.
Aren't we all just flawed people who have to decide to sign a evil contract in life.
It would be interesting, especially given how his relationship with The Monarch would have taken. I mean if Monarch couldn't arch him anymore (given that Rusty would be a villain) then what would happen between them?
GirlDoesRant Of course you watch this show.
i always thought that this is the moment you realize rusty is a better person then his father. that despite the fact he has every reason to be a villian he choices not to be
Harbingerof Reason
The Monarch is the interesting part of this What If.
Would he become a hero so he could keep arching Rusty? Or would he try and make Rusty good again so he could go back to being the villain?
It's funny, but it seems like Dr. Killinger is actually less evil than his real life counterpart.
This one seems slightly less likely to commit war crimes.
He's more neutral, he tips the scales to restore balance
"And you can learn more about it in the Bible!"
Ok my question is was this the goal of Killenger's actions to let Rusty see where his hate would lead him or did he actually want him to be a supervillain
@@brianglatt2590 does it matter? In one circumstance, Rusty and JJ are locked in a battle where they're both redirected away from the potential harm they could do (and likely resolve the Gargantua II crisis thing), and in the other, Rusty has to confront his own morality and end up, if not a better person, then one with a more positive impact on the world. The latter of the two is what I think the intention was (you could've more easily snuck in the villainy, and Rusty's reaction was pretty obvious), but I think both ways would have been better than just Rusty without Killinger ever "helping" him.
I like how Rusty would have had the former Super Scientist HQ as his lair, and his brother would have the former lair as his Super Scientist HQ.
I've always wondered what would've happened if Dr Venture signed. with the way Dr Killinger set things up it looked like Rusty would've made a decent Super Villain. Plus Dr Killinger is always trying to improve things and when people do what he wants life usually turns out for the better.
We need to petition for a what if special where Rusty became a super villain.
The Monarch's life would become shittier, that's for sure.
+Skullkan6 Yeah, the Monarch's reaction could be fascinating.
+Roman Snow (State Of Bedlam) maybe he'll turn into a hero so he can arch him
+Dimizar Le Nehantiste The Blue Morpho?
Brock would probably just kill him.
I like the theme of identity in this show. In the VB universe, there exists a strict binary of heroes and villains, and this episode illustrates how Doc fits neither: he’s terrible as a good guy, but he doesn’t want to be a villain.
In later seasons it shows that he is above the larping game
He recognizes how ridiculous the world he live in is
I would describe him as "Not evil, but too apathetic to be good".
When Dr. Killinger is under the impression that you're a super-villain in the making, you know you have serious issues....
The thing about Venture is that he never sees himself as a villain. He would have signed it, if the word (or rather the implication of) villain didn't appear.
The correct term is antagonist
the word villain wasn't there. He made that conclusion because he believes arching is between a hero and a villain, but he doesn't consider JJ to be a villain
I doubt it. Given how he acts, he's just selfish, not malicious. There's a not insignificant part of him that does want to help others, it's just mostly overwhelmed by selfishness and being incredibly jaded by the world and his life experiences.
@@LordTyph Any good in him I'd put down by his Ego and Selfishness. Really, two hallmarks of a villain in most cases.
@@vguyver2 or a misguided hero.
I actually liked this choice. It was clearly not only because the status quo, more likely to show, that Rusty might be mentally and emotionally unstable, and probably broken, he might be an arrogant and shameless prick, but deciding not to seal this pact clearly shows that he is not -at all- a bad person.
It might be just me... But chosing to be a terrible good guy, over being a good villain is what makes Doc.... Doc. That's what makes him human. Chosing to be imperfect, rather than being purely evil.
+Newt Montgomery Copperplate (The Newt) Rusty just can't be good at anything. Even a good villain.
+Newt Montgomery Copperplate (The Newt) That's ridiculous. Choosing to be pure evil wouldn't have made him any less perfect or less human. He just would have made a choice that would allow him to accept his more darker elements in a manner that could have been lucrative instead of scrounging as a terrible ineffectual and morally bankrupt "good guy". To be honest, the guy is a villain in the making, but he just doesn't want to admit it.
+EmptyMan000 And that's the brilliance of it. Doc will happily commit scientific atrocities, parentally neglect and abuse his two sons, and grift any donor into his work like crazy, but he always does so for a reason, even if they're more often than not selfish ones. This particular episode, though, this was the wake-up call. Remember Orpheus's earlier quotes in the episode about an upcoming Faustian bargain? Those aren't idle or grandiose. Killinger has put nearly all of the faltering and chaotic pieces of Rusty's life together in perfect synergy for the first time in his life since his dad died, and all he has to do is sign and become a villain. All the success that Rusty has ever wanted to emulate from his overbearing father, and all it will cost him is his soul.
But this is it. This is the final step in that path that Rusty has either been walking unconsciously or with willful ignorance down, all this time. If he had signed that paper, there would be no more excuses. No more denials. Signing that paper would be the final, clear, true, unbreakable admission that Rusty was, is, and forever will be a bad person... in exchange for finally being a successful super-scientist, just like he was always expected to be.
And Rusty says _no._
For all of Rusty's arrogance, cynicism, and incapability, when the chips are down, he does not really want to be a bad guy.
Tell me: When is a man truly a villain? Is it when he causes bad things to happen? Is it when he fails to be good? Is it when he chooses to be selfish, or cruel, or greedy, or unethical?
Or is it when, given the option, he _chooses_ to be an evil person?
"All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances, and one man, in his life, plays many parts." _As You Like It_ - Act II, Scene VII.
Well a man becomes an honest true blue villain when he chooses to be villainous and accepts what he does as villainous without delusions or self-righteousness. Look at the Monarch, the Red Death, or any of the people part of the Guild of Calamitous Intent. They know they're villains, they can be affable or kind, but at the end of the day they know they're "bad people" because they do bad things and love it.
People like Brock Samson, Shoreleave, and Colonel Gathers in the OSI do horrible things in the name of national interest, personal espionage, or out of general bloodlust. They could kill a man in a minute, whether they earned the fate or not, and feel right as rain afterwards because they accept their actions. Does that make them villains? I would say yes but the show says otherwise.
As for Rusty, he does bad things out of incompetence or apathy, but he knows what he does is wrong many times like when he refused to clone Hitler but won't admit it like when he made a machine out of orphan parts or illegally made clones. It's confusing to me, because if can do all that and still not be an evil person, what are the limits that define good and evil people? How can someone do so much blatantly bad shit and still come out or question being a good person? It makes no sense. A obscene mockery of morality.
For the OSI, that's more a question of whether the ends justify the means; pragmatically, the answer is always "yes," but otherwise answers vary. Or 'hell' road and good intentions. Issue between that and Rusty is a _lack_ of intention. From one point of view, he does the messed up things he does because it "works" in his head, and maybe, _maybe_ he can make a profit on it.
He doesn't _want_ to do good by everyone he meets, but it's not like he's out to kill everyone who has yet to slight him, either. Of course, he's a weasel of a man and to some extent it's ludicrous what situations he walks himself into, but it's less a question of "good or evil" and more "This is what's happening today." Except, with the context of _signing a contract to explicitly be evil_ in this particular case. And I'm sure I know the least of anyone how Rusty thinks, but that sounds like _asking_ for trouble, and that's not something he's interested in.
The Venchmen looked awesome.
Also a great name for your legion of henchmen.
I think it would have been cooler if the Venchmen had lifted there's arms in a V shape rather then a Nazi hail but both get the idea across.
Praise the sun
@@freyathedragon899 It brightens my day!
Bad dum tish*
I'll see my self out.
Loads bolter*
To be honest villain Venture would have been pretty awesome, I can't imagine the fit the Monarch would have had tho.
VanCan23 Easy. He would be the superhero arch Blue morpho
I think this is foreshadowing something. Dr. Venture is a pessimistic cynic who does a lot of selfish things. That's probably why he fails a lot on the side of "good". This last season is when we see his arch nemesis "The Monarch" take up the secret mantle of the Blue Morpho. The Monarch has actually had more success being the Blue Morpho in a short amount of time than he has been a villain persona. I think Rusty Venture and the Monarch are actually half brothers and some how Dr. Venture will actually become a villain persona.
I like how at the ending, when the Venchmen are doing the salute, Killinger and Doc are both just kinda looking at them, like they're confused
Killinger is probably thinking "oh I got the wrong guys for this I hope that doesn't mess with him. Oh, no, he's weirded out too, awesome, it's all going according to plan"
I get the feeling this was a set up to put Rusty on the Council of 13 and give control of the guild back to the family that made it.
Rusty would make a terrible Councilman, he doesn't give a shit at all about any of it
@@salsamancer he did a good job at the summit and knows all their rules tho
@@salsamancer Didn't you see the signing of the treaty of tolerance 2 episode? >:( he is great.
Got to give it too rusty, he didn't go through with it like he father might have. Rusty might be a horrible human being, but deep down (and I mean bottom of the barrel) he still a decent person who truly wants to be a better person and help others over giving in to his own personal demons.
Honestly, I think this says more about Rusty's redeemability than people think.
Killinger set this whole thing up to turn Rusty to the dark side, persuading him into believing that secretly being a villain is what he always wanted. And he was DAMN CLOSE to succeeding.
But then Rusty turns him down. All that work was for nothing.
Rusty denied a whole new purpose for his existence, the ability to stick it to his brother and even the healing of his own childhood trauma . . . Because he didn't want to be a bad guy.
Because he's good.
For all of his morally questionable decisions and quirks, he's a good kid at heart.
I mean, I'm not gonna forgive some of those experiments...
@@Bacxaber *cough* orphan heart
Rusty and JJ never even considered harming each other. In a way their unspoken bond was just that powerful
you know, except that one time when JJ tried to kill Rusty as soon as he was "born"
@@thorjelly they fight their brothers
Love how his outfit resembles Lex Luthor's from the 70's. Just needs to be purple and green.
I thought he looked more like 80's Nightwing cause of the popped collar and blue trim.
I can't see Killinger actively doing this, knowing it was going to pan out with Venture becoming a villain and Monarch losing his way, with no one he wants to menace and unable to menace Venture as another super villain.
No, this was more something that *had* to happen, the cosmic unbalance of a man living like a supervillain without laying claim to, or even knowing, it. But this was his chance. To accept it, or to turn away from it, but to realize it either way, so he knows better what his problems are, and how he should address them.
An extravagant waste of money to find out, but I don't think money is something Killinger is worried about....
He makes it work either way. he either creates a promising new villain or pushes Rusty to realize his issues and become a better hero. either way, he sharpens both swords.
Just for the record, i really love the term "venchmen".
Ever notice how the color scheme and uniform pattern of an evil Rusty resembles Vendata?
God there's so many great things to love about the series, but J.G Thirlwell's music add a whole new level of suspense to scenes like this. Like the way the Piano kicks in at 0:26 when Doc says "my brother" it immediately ramps it all up as we discover along with Doc what was really going on
My favorite thing about this scene is how seamlessly it transforms the Venture Compound into a supervillain's lair.
With the world map that has missile paths drawn on it, and the raised platform with the targeting computer... it's perfect! It looks totally diabolical, but still faithful to the original Venture aesthetic.
It's like... what kind of supervillain attacks his archenemy just by shooting missiles at them? But, in this case, it seems very appropriate.
Y'know, maybe Rusty should have signed. Hatred proved that arching can easily be more profession than passion, maybe he could've used the set-up to get closer to JJ in some odd way. I dunno, I just think maybe the two could've arched with some level of civility. Also, Rusty could've worked through a bit of that latent resentment against Jonas.
An excuse for the two of them to build big robots and slug it out. Or field-test their stuff.
When you're in a room where 10 people do the nazi salute at the same time, you've probably made some really bad decisions.
Especially if it’s a salute for you
I see this as an absolute win
Half of them are doing the Ku Klux Klan salute.
@@Anastas1786 Funny that. Guess where Hitler got that salute from in the first place. It was the Bellamy salute, which was officially the proper way to salute the flag for decades until it was changed in 1942 for obvious reasons.
That, or you're on the set of a ww2 movie
Rusty: "Alright, but could we maybe choose another Hand Gesture? I don't know if this one is appropriate."
This episode really shines who Rusty really is.
He will not sign that contract "you silly Billy"
It seems likely that if Rusty had followed Killinger's plan, Jonas Jr. might still be alive.
Holy crap, that KISS comic book line was amazing!!
how many people want to bet the venchmen are old rusty fans that are fanatic about him but also upset about how life treatied there almighty rusty venture.
Anyone else regret Dr. Venture not becoming a villian?? Even if its was only a a little while
If you ever wanted to play an Evil Mastermind. Get a game called Evil Genius. It's strategy/management, so don't expect action. But it's still fun and the it has the style of a bond movie.
Note taken.
they are finally coming out with number 2 oh its gonna be sweet!
is nobody else gonna point out Doc's amazing healing factor? 0:10 one clench of the hand and he goes from a leaking faucet of blood too fine in a instant, he even healed his glove XD
I would Signe the hell out of it I like being a good guy but how could pass up my own evil army
+Cosmic Drew But whats stopping you from just using the evil army for good purposes?
+Cosmic Drew JJAB91 is right, most of the G.C.I.s actions are for the majority philanthropic in nature to the larger public community.
JJAB91 Where would be the fun in that?
Heck, you could even try to cheer up a depressed genius with a chance to play some war games, like Phineas Phage was kinda trying to do with Professor Impossible.
Anyone else notice his costume is a bit, "Blue Morpho" like; the collar and lines on the top even make a little "M" symbol.
With his ego, I’m surprised Doc so readily accepted that he was the super villain over his brother
It took a contract in hand and suited henchmen saluting him for that little point to get hammered in. Also props in that he can't see JJ as a villain even for the sake of his ego.
If rusty took the deal he would have ultimately ended the monarchs arching rights
Ha Cain and Abel, nice touch
I really wish he did sign it and become a villian. It would've made for some interesting episodes.
I feel like he would have been a great super villain anything he creates is really only good for evil foe example: DNA splicing, corpse reanimation, clones, enslavement sex juice that turns women into horrible monsters...that sort of thing and then the monarch could have fully gone into his role as a super hero to still fight venture.
A device powered by an orphans heart
@@kentallard8852 Well, nobody was looking for them.
This is actually foreshadowing of Malcom and Rusty
Maybe no one will see this, but what if the reason why they introduced the concept of the blue morpho in later seasons is to gradually change the dynamic of Doc and the monarch from hero to villian?
The purpose of Blue Morpho so far seems to have been to simply keep Monarch around because they didn't know what else to do with him.
@@TiberianFiend Show's cancelled, so it doesn't matter anymore
I always wondered what would have happened if Rusty said yes. It looks like he would have made a much more competent villain and he was actually making full use of the compound here and everything his father left behind rather then leaving most of it empty and to rot.
Based on what came later in the series I think Killlenger would have had Rusty fill the role that Phantom Limb ended up filling by taking down the Sovereign and reforming the Guild.
As people say Rusty isn't evil, but you don't need to be evil to make a good villain.
Oh Killenger wouldn't have been able to hand me that pen fast enough. On the dotted like, let's go Tye's Fighters!
I forget if this would officially make rusty a guild member or not (i take the signature to just be for killinger making it official he's a supervillain and arching JJ) but I'm guessing the monarch still wouldn't have been allowed by the guild to arch another supervillain and it's amazing imagining him trying to quit the guild and become a superhero purely to stay against rusty
It's funny, no one ever asked him if he wanted to be constantly hounded by masked villains, or that whether he wants to become one himself. He just, always is.
dude, we all wouldve signed it.
This is an epic scene. It's a shame that Doctor Venture did not take the deal! :/
Jesus, that thumbnail! Killinger is massive!
I agree that it's epic and it would have been really interesting to see the show go in this direction, but you have to give it to Dr. Venture. Even though in a lot of ways it would have made sense he didn't take the easy path. Dr. Venture is terrible at a lot of things; father, inventor, lover, but he decided to not become a bad guy and remained on the side of good
i just got it .literally every single adult animated sitcom is about a supervillian rick and morty family guy american dad archer futurama daria southpark simpsons they are all evil they have henchmen to do their bidding they all have blood violence and swearing and they all get away with it and come back next week to do it again its all so clear now
Not gonna lie, I probably would have signed so fast Killenger would have to put out the fire on that contract.
one of the best episodes
He would have made a good villain.
0:38 the second he realizes it
Everyone talked about the Monarch. But what about Brock? If Dr. Venture had signed it, OSI might have cancelled the mission given to Brock, caused him to leave the Ventures. Also What will the boys react? I think they'll really upset. We really need a what if episode.
I wonder if else world Dr. Venture, (via Fat Chance) is just Rusty if he took Killingers deal.
he shoulda done it, made money as a villian since his facility was way more operational and then quit after a few yrs.
Arachnid research is way easier to weaponize. Unless you're creating Spider-Man, but he already happened. (Brown Widow)
I think he should have taken the deal.
How did Dr Venture not realize that he was about to start arching his own brother, Jonas!?
“But he can’t arch me he’s not even a super-! Oh my god... This is… but I’m not a-“
A villain.
I never realized it until I watched this clip. It should have been obvious with all the henchmen and the literal salute at the end.
Even greater to consider that Killinger was right in this scene in who Rusty’s arch enemy was. As it always was.
I miss Dr. Killinger way too much...
I would so would have loved to see a spin off episode, just one episode, where he signs.
Need alternate timeline venture bros series
You know this would have been pretty cool if they went down this route.
In my case, i would have sigh it faster thabn lighting. I mean, my own super lab with henchmen at my command?
I want to see an alternate reality where he signs that paper.
Would you rather be a successful bad guy or be a failure as a good person?
I'm already a failure as a good person.
I feel like the doc should have went threw with it! He's more of a mad scientist anyway!
"You're already a villain. Why not make it official?"
@@DemonicAdj basically I mean the guy keeps breaking rules throughout the series
Kissinger planned everything in the long run. It wasnt rusty who he was trying to turn villian. It was Dean and Hank.
It’s a classic Cain and Able story... man ain’t that the truth
RIP MY MAN HENRY KILLINGER!
Good thing Doc didn’t sign. I’m pretty sure that’s why 24 died.
All Killinger wants is for people to be honest with themselves. Everyone knows that Rusty is a terrible person, but Rusty who is a slave to status and titles is desperate to maintain his self image as one of the "good guys".
Funny thing is if he did sign he wouldn’t be rich now.
after all this time and hes still denies it
Am I a good person?
Since Venture Bros. do like to have references to Marvel and DC I would like to see a What if episode if he became a super villain.
Was Rusty always meant to be a villain or did circumstances give him the opportunity?
It’s funny! Rusty kills him anyways indirectly later
Would love to see episodes in an alternate universe where he signs it :)
If you had a choice would you be a successful bad guy or an unsuccessful good person?
I cheered when I first saw this! Very disappointing he did not sign. =/
Took him long enough
Everyone wants a What if of evil Dr Venture, but you're all forgetting: Rusty is way too lazy to be a villain.
I wanted him to go with it
I dunno Henry, I'm not digging the cyan color scheme
i think he should have done it
I would've so taken that
I would love that
what's the name of this episode
+Jamar Kerry "The Doctor is Sin"
Lol!
MGTOW
2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
sighe, yhea id also wouldnt sine it either
holy shit retype that
He should've signed. With Killinger's help he could've become the greatest man that that industry ever knew and utterly left behind the pathetic, idiotic weakling he'd been for the entire portion of his life since when his father didn't notice his own failure to attend to certain needs of modesty up until the point when the chance and qualifications to sign that contract arrived.
Just think if Rusty hadn't turned down the whole villain thing he probably would have ended up being part of the new council. Hell he probably could have taken Sovereign's place if he wanted to
The biggest (public image) hero's son, turned to evil? That's a narrative too beautiful to pass up. The brightest lights cast the darkest shadow.
@@DemonicAdj very true