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- CHOPPED SUGARBEET!! FS22 | A GUIDE TO… BIOGAS PLANTS (PlanET)! | Farming Simulator 22 | INFO SHARING PS5. GIANTS Software. Let’s take a look at BIOGAS PLANTS! What do they take? Where are all the drop off and pick up points? What do they produce? How do we chop sugar beet?? Take a look with me… MrSealyp.
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The thing with the weight limit reflects how trucks work in the UK anyway. A truck is allowed to be a certain maximum weight which includes the weight of the truck and trailer. As you were putting bigger wheels on the trailer it weighed more, so the actual weight of goods it could carry went down so the trailer itself wouldn’t go over the maximum allowed axle weight.
That's the one
We have weight limits in the US as well, they work the same. Though I should add that in regards to agricultural trucks they are often ignored because those trucks are usually just carrying grain from the field to the silos on farms, or farm to sale point (grain elevator), which tend to be short(er) distances.
@@simrantoor85 to be honest I am not sure on how strictly checked things like grain trailers are when on the local back roads, I think it’s mainly main/busier roads that are checked. Unless the vehicles are visibly dangerous I would assume.
@@raspingrabbit2379 yes you are both correct, does it make it any safer though or ok to do? 🤦♂️🤣🤣
The US uses weight limits but the laws vary state to state. For example in Colorado a single frame truck like a dump truck has a top limit of 54,000lbs. In New Hampshire the load limit is based on number of axles. So here in NH dump trucks carry an extra set of wheels on a 'drop axle' that allows them to carry more load when deployed. However it also adds even more weight to the unloaded truck.
Since CO has a single limit, everyone takes off drop axles and runs as little fuel as possible to maximize their load capacity. In NH you have a heavier truck with a drop axle, but it can increase it's max load (don't know it off the top of my head) by using them.
Personally, I'm very thankful for you taking the time to figure this stuff out and then pass it along to us. Hopefully we'll get a mod ramp to place at the biogas input so trailers will offload.
You can build a concrete ramp in build mode
for chopping beets, instead of using harvester you can deposit into a beet cart (under auger wagons) to deposit into the beet chopper.
I was getting ready to say the same thing.
Saved me a headache of having a dozen harvesters.
Thank you!!
I just put the beets into a barn and then when they come to use I take them out using a conveyor and let them fall into the beet crusher frontloader bucket and from there into the trailer to use - or I completely chip them into a big pile and put the beet chips back into the barn with the conveyor.
Can the beet wagon also carry chopped beets? If so yiu can use the auger to get them into the biogas plant after chopping.
@@hyzenthlay7151 you can't just use a regular trailer
I initially thought the fill option was about overflow. I actually got my hopes up for that thinking you would always run your trailers slightly lower not wanting to risk wasting product. Great video as always
For gas an electricity, if you got into build mode then to Buildings< Tools, there is the Electic Charging station and the the Biomethan Station. Thes are both placeables and the description says. At this Biogas station you can refulet your methane tractors, would you place these at the the bio gas plant, or.... put at your farm activate distribution and it goes to the farm? Also in the same area, you have weight stations, I wonder how those placables come into play with weight would we get a bonus if we weight the trucks before selling?
Regarding biogas operations, the CLAAS Saddle-Trac pack continues to be unusable / uninstallable for PS5 pre-order buyers until the game is updated. The DLC was literally improperly coded. This does not apply to the PS4 game version. Unknown date of corrections for next generation console owners. There are a host reported bugs on the current list.
Mine works on my ps5
Mine does not work on PS4 I have no install option
@@simonparkinson3861 on PS4 you have to download it from the ps store, then it will appear in game as installed 👍
@@hybrid9mm I have it downloaded store shows installed but in game it says buy and dosent give me option to install. The extra content has downloaded and installed fine just not the Claas pack
@@simonparkinson3861 that’s really odd, it should be available to you 🤷♂️
All I did was download it from store (no installation of any kind), start a map and it was there at the mod options screen.
That may have been the most polite "apologies, but I'm right" I've ever heard. I love it! This attention to detail and concern for getting the facts correct is why I love your reviews and instructional videos. Well Done Good Sir!
Love fs22 been doing my own let’s play, p.s. your guides are very helpful
Could the 6.2 tons on the trailer be just what the trailer weighs empty? Thanks for the work you put in these videos. They're really good.
As you own the plant you don’t get paid since you process stuff in your own facility. Try chucking something in when you don’t own the plant, the money is paid immediately.
For tipping into a high receptacle, like that one on the biogas plant you can probably also use the Annaburger Fieldliner trailer, I believe I saw it in the list, I used it on FS19 for this. It can carry forage products as well as silage, and you can raise the back up to unload into another trailer, or for example the biogas tip point. Hope this functionality is still there as it is just over 50k liter trailer.
to speed up chopped beet with respect to a harvester, dump the beet on the ground, and use conveyer system to dump into the loader bucket, thus you are only tying up a loader tractor, while you can have a tractor and trailer positions under the loader bucket with the chopper to take the chopped beet to the BGA or sugar mill.
Wow didn't even catch or notice that about the tires and weight limit! Thanks for pointing that out clearing that up!
Them pigs are running wild again lol.
We need the Grain Vault Black n Grey selling station pack back again eventually. They used to take Digestate and nearly every other product
Great Video Again
Another method of cutting sugar beets efficiently: have your front loader bucket over the sell point, set up a conveyor belt system to bring beets from the ground to above the selling point and just dump on the ground in front of it when you have a full load.
This way your harvester isn't restricted in unloading by the relatively slow bucket chopper, and it can be in the field harvesting while that's going on.
About to go bed.. oh sealyp video, never mind 👌🏻
For the electricity and methane do you need to own one of the placeable pumps. Maybe that will that fill with the amount you generate. The ones you can place on your farm to charge your electric tractors etc
MrP you keep your guide videos as you do, Like you say we learn, and I love these videos.
Great video, MrSealyP, and a fine example of how sometimes "the basics" actually do change from game to game! Honestly I'm not sure if I like getting an hourly payment from the BGAs now, maybe I'm just old and set in my ways but I kind of like the big chunk of change coming in at midnight from the BGA!
Mr. Sealyp your chopping beet plan is good but I only found out last night that the rock crusher that gives us lime will also crush/chop beet!!! That’s why I looked you up to see what way you do it….. amongst other tips for bio gas!!
You can store root crops in the rail silo and run it from there.
I've been playing around with the BGA on modded maps, and on the Elm Creek Map both. Even though there's no sell points for the Digestate, you still get paid for what you have every hour. It's paid out at the top of the hour. If your production is running, you get paid for the electricty and methane every hour at the top of the hour. The methane pump and electric charging station buys the electricty or methane to fuel/charge your vehicles.
When I chopped sugarbeets for my sugar mill I dumped the beets on the ground next to the input, then used a conveyorbelt to feed the chopper that was sitting directly above the input.
I can understand the searching every where for how to do cut sugar beets. I spent hours in fs19 on the Oklahoma 4x map google searching and rummaging through mods trying to figure out what to use or do. I agree hopefully some modders make some amazing things to help out with this in the future.
Amazing the beet chopping works from the harvester continuously. I had some beet at the train station silo and it wasn't continuous.
Easiest method of cutting sugar beets I have found that avoids annoying belts or chewing up harvester time is to use an augar wagon, fill it up from silo with sugar beets, then place front loader with bucket over the silo fill spot, and empty the augar into it... dropping the cut sugar beets straight back into the silo
Note I am using a silo mod that takes sugar beets and cut sugar beets
Love your logic in your videos. I dont know about others but I miss your story's from when you were a teacher and your trips you used to take befor the lock down
Enjoying the guide to episodes mate . Most the other youtubers are getting stuck into let's play. Keep up the good work .
Chilli from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Thanks for all the videos explaining FS22. It helps a lot.
My game also frezzes when sending workers to locations, i just stop trying to use that function until it's fixed.
Isn't there a pick-up point right next to the manure extension where you augered the manure into the trailer?
selling at $0 we call that dumping over board
When I went through the equipment for the first time I thought why is the Fliegl Bucket so damn expensive. I know now, thank you for that
Appreciate your efforts my dude
hello @MrSealyp, my method to deal with cutting beats was to dump a truckload of beats in front of a pickup belt, connected to an elevation belt directly over a chopping bucket, with a second pickup belt directly underneath the chopping bucket to send it where it needed to be; in my case a sugar factory. this way you can mostly leave it to do its thing while it works away at the loop, possibly grab another trailer full of beats from a silo. There's an added benefit that to what I'm assuming is a rounding error, you'll receive about a third more volume in your output this way, at least until they patch that up ;) (that is the case of the PC version unsure if the round up error happens for console as well) .
Excellent a lot of important stuff explained, looks like farming agency, or modded feed mixer trailers, will be needed, to use chopped beets as Cattle feed
Does the price fluctuations affect the money you get from the production? For example when silge is at 500€ and put your silage in the BGA would you get less money for the electricity and methane then if it would be at 55€?
great job as always MrSealyP, very informative as always. just wondering would the Annaburger Fieldliner HTS be able to tip into the hopper at the smaller biogas plant? Just a thought... Keep up the great work.
It would be quite handy to have an Annaburger trailer to dump into the raised hopper at the BGA. Cheers
The silage and bulk bunkers have a problem with weelloaders to clean but use the telehandler with small bucket can clean both.
I have also used the small pick up converer belt with just a tractor mounted front loader and bucket to get bulk crops that were dumped on the ground and got stuck. worked well for me. Hope this helps others.
Might have been answered but couldn't find it in the comments but Digestate is a fertilizer for the fields. Use a slury tank to haul it and spread it.
2:25 I think that looks like a 10t trailer. So I would say your "kg" weight is the weight of the actual unit. And the "weight in a bucket" is overall weight or gross weight it can carry including the weight of the vehicle. So the 10t trailer weighs 6t and can carry max of 10. Making overall load 16T
Cheers hope that helps but that is how it seems to mw
Another great guide to video as always, chopped sugar beet was becoming a headache to figure out so thank you for making this video 👌
Thanks 🙏 for Video on Biogas & Cut Sugar beets… I had no clue! I’m hoping for a Multi-Fruit Silo at some point! A sell point for all Buy products would be great as well! ✌️🇨🇦🚜
Plonk a charger on your property and charge a tractor. Then see if the silo power goes down. Just a thought. Good luck.
Hi Mate good video i have a question for you when you download a update of course play do you have to delete the old one i have put the new update on but it does not change it in the game
I havent watched the video so I don’t know if it’s been answered. But if I want to turn corn into chaff and then into silage, can I use the open silage ”silos” at the biogas plant without owning it?
I'm assuming the BGA pays hourly since it shares some code with the new power production. If you check the power production buildings they all pay hourly. Since the BGA is also a power productor despite needing the inputs it also pays hourly. Not sure if someone else mentioned it already but I couldn't find it.
if you pay attention, when you use the charge station or the methane gas station placed on your farm, the game charges you cash for charge or refill. if you have stored electicity or methane stored at biogas plant, you are not charged cash. instead, you used up your stored supplies.
Great vid and thankyou for the heads up, MrSealyp. Agree with you, Find out yourself. If you can't, there is every chance that we can't and the problem needs highlighting, we trust your judgement. If it ain't there for you, then it just ain't there and needs simplifying or adding. I liked this very much but still not bought the game until you say everything seems ironed out! Hope University Baby is doing well.
The methane and electricity are sold at midnight, there is no storage for these products in the game. Farmer Klien did a explainable video over the weekend as he was confused too
Mrsealyp I love the tutorial vids and they are very very helpful 100/10
You should also note that you can sell silage for instant payment at the 1MW BGA without owning it, but you don’t get any digestate
This is indeed the MOST important change to BIOGAS in FS22. Which begs the question, wtf would I spend $500k-1.5M on a BioPlant? OK, logistics and getting silage to the plant is one thing, but its actually a small thing in comparison. The free digestate will take decades to recoup the cost of the plant. And personally, I hate spreading slurry and digestate because of the high application rates (maybe Precision Farming will change my mind). In FS19 most maps bought digestate, so I just sold it. And I don't think I'm the only one. Being paid instantly is a huge difference, compared to waiting for days to finish processing the crops you have deposited (yes, you get paid hourly based on the production site's speed of processing - the 1MW plant is twice as fast as the biggest placeable BioPlant).
The electricity and Methane side products - it all goes to show that bioplants were a sloppy addition to the production chain, and I honestly think initially they were not going to give you free access to the BGA....but then convinced themselves that there would be a riot if you a) had to pay for the BioGHas Plant b) see how works as it does with the electricity and methane.. Its quite a BioGasShow.
What if you put down a charger? Maybe it would use the power produced from the bio gas plant when charging rather than costing you money.
Another video I watched confirmed it cost you at the charging stations regardless if the plant was running or not.
Isn't there a ramp download? I thought there was one. I wonder if it would be tall enough to dump into the bin
I can't tell if the money for this is enough compared to just selling the silage to a biogas plant that you do not own. It's hard to determine if it's worth the hefty cost for one of these places.
Very interesting mr P thanks for your time making theses videos 👏👏👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Silage bunker won't empty for me either. Hope they fix that soon. I had to get rid and go with the baling option.
thank you MR P very informitve
Hello Mr silly p long time fan.. been watching you since the beginning n I love farming too.I've always wanted to do vids but life just gets in the way sometimes .but maybe someday lol.. I still remember you face revile and as soon as I seen your face I said just like I thought from the voice you look like a farmer lol but anyway I got fs22 for ps5 and I'm guessing maybe you have to place one the fuel tanks for fuel n the charging station for electric n for the bio you can choose to sell it now .well every hour cause on fs19 you had to place a sale point for bio unless the mod map had sale point hope I helped Oo and you have helped me through some rough times don't ever change buddy
Do you have to buy the 1gw plant, to get digestate? I read that when you sell silage, you get digestate, but i cant find the place, to pump it out.
is there also not some kind of sell point in the build menu that you have to build yourself. where you can sell digestate?
personally im using a fertilizer factory mod, so im using digestate to create fertilizer.
I've noticed a few game crashes to when hired workers to do certain jobs and thought it was just me/my PS4 getting warm but if yours doing it too then there is an issue. Keep track of these crashes and report them.
I just ordert FS22, but is it possible to build a ramp in front of the small bga, so you van dump in it easily?
Yep. I removed small silage silo from my farm and im using bug ones at biogas plant. Hat the same glitch.
OMGosh! thank you Mr. P!! you've answered loads of questions! nothing we could do with digestate until a modder comes out with a sell point but it seem the digestate tank holds a rather large capacity! Thank you, thank you! Have a lovely evening! :)
Is chopping the beets a 1:1 ratio or do you get less chopped beets or something?
I wonder, if you were to place a bio methane station that would trigger an output at the biogas plant?
Could it not be the biogas that you can produce you use from the biomethane station in construction under tools? And same with the electric, there is a electric charging station?
im not sure if anyone said this if you have stuff in factory to sell it sells on the hr during the day not at midnight
Is it possible we are over thinking the selling option on the bio gas/mass plants,maybe like the greenhouses on fs19 it just sells the product and we get payed at midnight just a thought
On Elm Creek the 1Mw plant I have a problem where part of the silage clamp I can't unload. It like a solid brick at the moment
so, do you actually earn more for 10k of lets say silage if you own a plant or is it the same????
Also depends on map. I wasn't able to tip into the default biogas on erlengrat
I believe the methane and electric charge station is under placeables. Idk if they work with the bio plants though.
Hello mate im new just started playing. Do you know if thease bga's still work the same in 2023. If not do you have any updated information.
Also I've heard that you can sell silage bales at the 1MW plant without owning It, if you put them in between the 2 hoppers on the upper level. I haven't tried it yet to confirm it
It has been working for me
Well yeah, it's a sell point.
@@simon7109100 well it was a sell point in FS19 too, but you couldn't sell there unless you owned in FS19 so it has been a nice fix to FS22
Isn’t it the sale of electricity and gas that generates the income for the biogas plant? Otherwise where does the money come from to pay you for your silage, slurry etc…?
So, considering all the bugs in 22, should I not expect the 19 mod hub to ever be fixed? Apparently stuff stopped downloading the day 22 launched and as of 5 minutes ago it still doesn't work.
Not everything will download on the FS 22 mod hub....granted there isnt a lot, but pretty much none of it will download for me
@@fatkidgames4381 I don't have fs22, the fs19 modhub isn't working.
Oh, sorry think I misread that. So, your saying the 22 mod hub is busted too?
Yes its not working either
One primary issues is the day-one CLAAS Saddle-Trac pack DLC remains uninstallable due to miscoding for next generation console owners. Remaining DLC and FS22 MODHUB has been corrected. FS19 is still having "lights out" problems.
Easy way For Cut Sugar Beets, grab the Cutter Tool and put under the Multi-Fruit Output Pipe… Fill Sugar Beets in the Input… Turn on Cutter tool and Cut Sugar beets go into the Silo! “Work Smart, Not Hard!” I got this from C&S Farms RUclips Channel! I thought I would share because we are One Big Community! ✌️🚜🇨🇦
Thanks mrsealyp just the vid I would looking for
Isn't that blue thing a charge port on the small plant ?
I believe the only way to purchase the map BGA is to go to the BGA, there is an icon next to the digester. I pressed it yesterday and it asked for 1.5m. I presume this is how you buy the BGA on this game as apposed to going on the map like FS19.
Hi there , firstly I would like to say how helpful your videos are , I have a question I hope you can help with , I bought fs 22 and bought a forklift to move some bales , when I try and use them it shows the bales on the forklift but when i try and lift bale up the forks come out the top of the bale . HELP PLEASE.
You are correct that the plants produce electricity and methane. The prices that you are paid are based on the prices of the fill types "ELECTRIC_CHARGE" and "METHANE", worth $350 and $450 respectively per 1000L by default, I haven't determined if the price fluctuations of the electricity and methane are tied to the silage in some way, but they are not directly based off it. i.e. increasing the price of silage does not increase the amount paid for products sold by the plant.
For the digestate, it is sold every hour like the other stuff and is set at $33 per 1000L in the game files (not sure about fluctuations). And about the stuck silage, there is actually chaff that is stuck in the silo walls which prevents any adjacent silage from being picked up, I've found the best solution is to repaint the ground inside the wall to remove the stuck chaff.
That's quite interesting. A few thoughts and questions regarding this:
a) are the electric and methane prices affected by economy settings?
b) $350/450 is about the high price of silage for normal economy. Therefore by owning the plant, and having hopefully static prices, that would remove the need make a mad dash to sell when prices are high. Just keep the plant running until you are finished, but then make sure to deactivate it.
c) plant processing speed seems to be affected by days in a month - typically, people are testing with 1 day, which shows the +8K silage processed per hour. Change it to 28 days, and watch your hourly silage processes grind to a halt. Need to test further, but your timescale seems to be handled properly, but of course zero documentation and a bug in the visual description. With 28 day time scale, you get 1/28 of a cycle per hour...not 1. If 2 day months, 1/2 a cycle per month. The need to show that, or change the values of the recipe based on the time scale you have chosen.
@@dansiegel995 Not quite too sure about a), would be interesting to test this.
b) Silage is supposed to be 171 in the game files, though I found doing silage with corn the 'correct way' i.e. maximising your yield, the price needs to be set to 340-400 to be competitive time wise with the most efficient methods. Max price is then about 770-820 (without demand) and to make the biogas plant work with that, the price of electricity and gas needs to increase to about 700 and 770. I personally feel doing silage to make a profit is only worth the investment if the prices are set to this so I'll be releasing a mod later that updates the game prices for silage, electricity and methane.
c) Plant speed appears to tied to the months to balance with the way seasons work, preventing you from processing more per year (and thus growth cycle) it would be nice to have more details on this stuff available from giants themselves. Speaking about processing speed and my aforementioned planned mod, I think sugarbeets might become completely unbalanced, though their limited processing ability may in a way prevent it from becoming broken, providing you're doing other stuff on the farm and not skipping and fast forwarding time
@@mastermodersI did a few brief tests, and I can only conclude that electricity and methane fluctuate, and you get the price of Silage added as well. Simple raw data from my tests - 70kL Silage dumped into self-owned 1MW BGA per day for 3 days. Price of Silage during processing was the following for 3 days: 274, 342, 225. Harvest Income for the 3 days, ~$35K, $38K, $36K. The math worked out close, but still a few thousand dollars off, leading me to believe the difference was due to fluctuation in electricity and methane prices.
Increasing Silage prices? Maybe for current stock game, but FS19 Corn Silage was king - mostly due to courseplay/gps, Seasons Crop Rotation, and subsoiler mods without ROCK PICKING so you could plow easily.
@@dansiegel995 You get the price of silage added as well? Increasing the price of silage to $850 - $900 didn't increase harvest income for me when using an owned plant, which aligns with the prices solely from electricity and methane
@@mastermoders I didn't know for sure that I received the Silage prices as well. If I did the math of the elec and methan prices, I was WAY off in the harvest income calculation. If I happened to ADD the silage value as well, then I got close, but still too far off to conclude it for sure, "hoping" it was the case and the deviation was due to elec and methane fluctuations. But if you have DOUBLED the silage prices, and harvest income stays the same, I think you proved that its certainly only methane and electricity...and great, they fluctuate and they are not shown to the user. Any debug commands you know to show the current prices?
look under auger wagons for sugar beet might help
I wonder if you just get paid a percentage for supplying to the towns electricity grid. Just a thought.
Root crops can go into the train silos at each end of the railroad track
So when digestate sells automatically does it actually payout.
The same for greenhouses etc. Do you get similar money from auto selling to delivering yourself
I dont believe so. They take a delivery charge. Which looks like 40% of the current highest selling price.
I see digestate can be distributed, but where to? Or am I missing something obvious, which is quite possible :-)
I have the game & can't play it every time I get into a vehicle 🚜 it freezes up and stops responding. I don't know if this is a bug 🐛 or a ban? Does Giant software care if you edit your Money? I don't know
I'm having issues with workers so. I can't change the job type. If I have a trailer on the back I can't select load and de iver I can only have go to. If I have a cultivator on I can't select field work only goto. 😭 On ps5
You have confused me on the manure heap which one do I need the first one or the second one
@@MrSealyp cheers
Yes I have that trouble with the worker bringing a tractor two you and it will freeze I think it’s a bug
Can you landscape a ramp to dump a trailer?
I highly doubt it. you would be trying to landscape the BGA. Its borders are square, not just only where there is infra on the ground.
Happy Christmas buddy
2nd have you checked in the build menu for the pumps?
Been having the same issue on PS4 with the game crashing during AI jobs. Not that it makes much of a difference since they frequently get their vehicles stuck on trees and buildings! XD
Is it PlanET, or Plan Eee Tee? Enquiring minds want to know? I've had the game freezing with a hired worker on pS5 too. I found that if I went to the PS5 home screen (hold the playstation button on the controller) & back into the game it seemed to un-freeze. Your assumptions are correct. The output products apart from the digestate are independent, i.e you'll be getting paid a set amount for the electricity & methane produced , you don't get those products to use apart from the digestate, which you can use in your slurry spreaders.
Giants has a LOT of bugs to work out of 22
nice work!
Do you have to buy the 1mw to use it
Just an fyi the PS4 version freezes up when hiring workers to drive from place to place, too.