What's cool is that Feixiao is just perfect to be March's Shifu. I wonder if the story reflects it. Anyway - great showcase. Grinding gear for Feixiao like mad rn. I've missed the LC for Acheron and don't have Ruan Mei for Firefly. But hopefully this time I'll get all the pieces of the puzzle, I'm close to pity for both the hero and LC, and have Robin geared up.
It's nice that Bronya is still finding her place ^^ 100% advance forward is sooo good to have still. Even if Feixiao has to basic attack, she's still getting more turns from Bronya which helps proc her talent more.
remember when sparkle came out and everyone was doomposting saying bronya is powercrept they're not in competition they just have different roles it's cool
@@theonetheycallheadspace2899 I mean Sparkle would have allowed 2 better characters for FX to be slotted in (Moze or Topaz), also buffed all of FX's out of turn actions, and had no skipped skills which is like 80-100k+ for each one skipped, just from FX alone. I think it's fair to say she has been power crept, but we also have ridiculously strong F2P units like Hunt March that literally lets you dish out 100k basics every 1 and a half turns for no SP, on top of also buffing FX a bit, and that helps Bronya's case A LOT. It's also not like Feixiao isn't effectively ignoring all of the mobs defenses at this point considering her LC gives her another layer of Pela ult + Resolution...... Acting like she could be E0S0 and still 0 cycle this smoothly a patch ago while giving up 3 of the DPSs skills, in anything other than break which also has its own broken support in HMC, is wild. She comes back into relevance when a 4 star gets its wings.
@@Gration_sparkle really doesn't synergize with fx much at all Sparkle largely replaced her for 0 speed crit hypercarries but she still holds some very strong positions High speed carries like FX or Boothill are big examples where sparkles falls flat simply because 50% AA=/=100% You can't run an X-1 speed sparkle, you can run bronya It's just a role difference thing
@@theonetheycallheadspace2899 The character who buffs stuff out of turn and gives more turns.....doesn't synergize with the character who wants more turns and has out of turn actions.....weird. Even weirder, thinking half the extra actions suddenly means sparkle's AV wouldn't be great, especially when more damage is coming out of the team more often considering everyone is spamming...... So weird.
I saw a cool Acheron tech which was Fei taking Topaz LC to apply tons of debuff stacks for Acheron. Now i really badly want to see a Acheron, Fei, Robin, JQ team, just for the memes more than anything.
The Bronya build is pretty damn impressive to be fair. Almost as good as my Sparkle that's also on 4pc Eagle 168 spd S5 DDD, worked on her since day one and just last week finalized that build 😂 That said the Feixiao build is fairly relatable, as long as you're willing to hyper invest into speed and crit rate.
@@bjornnilsson2941 That is true. The budget version nowadays is to use Kalpagni for the 6% boost which sacrifices 10% CDMG from Keel, not too much lost but hey, less farming.
@@LisaraScarlet Oh you're right, I imagine it would be a lot easier on Kalpagni these days, mine is on keel too. "Keel is the real deal", especially since you also need to find some EFF RES subs.
@@omega6826 just dedication to the wind domain. Mine is 168 / 190 and I’ve never refreshed ever. Worth all the trash pieces you have to go through to get there? Probably not, at least for the average player.
That disclaimer at 0:17 YES!!! People keep belittling and comparing things that are not at the same level smh Like if they want to compare things, compare and rate it based on the circumstances, including the teammates damage too if possible.
let them bait while we ff havers r clearing all endgame modes with ease since her release with the same team , heck even the nxt patch's enemies r still easy to clear. These people act that the jades r wasted on her while on reality we alr have more jades for the nxt unit we want.
@@hurmmmmphhhamm Usually comes from people who have to make a choice between which unit to get. As someone with all the harmonies and soon to be all their DPSs, it's very rarely crossed my mind on who was better considering they all do the same exact thing in the same number of cycles, barring the clear favoritism when each DPS initially drops.
this has given me hope for my f2p future haha. Im not looking to 0-cycle, just to clear, so the fact that 0-cycling is possible without robin is awesome ncjdskncjsk
Thanks for the 100% def shred showcase. Been using the def shred comp for Ratio ever since you showcased it back in Ratio's banner. That's all I need to know about Feixiao's damage output.
@@UOHCUNYWhat are you smoking dude? There's so many wasted stats on those relics I'd actually cry if you think that's insane as it means you've never seen anything better and RNG hates you....
Beast run. Crazy to think you had room for this 0-cycle. Even if Fexiao didn’t kill with ult, you still had March’s Enhanced Basic. I have loved follow up attacks since the beginning. I spent an unhealthy amount of time trying to get Preservation March to work; even before Topaz’s first banner. I am really happy about how well Hoyo has been treating the play style.
Just put this in the Feixiao mains sub. Now waiting for the doompost-guide-reader to spawn xD ( And also the grateful ones who your showcase will definetely make happy! ) EDIT: They already arrived xD
This is such a good showcase, ty for showing off a f2p friendly team! Question, do we think that Feixiao E0S1 without Robin or Feixiao E0S0 with Robin is better?
@@Gojiradogzillagodzilla this community is a lost cause on some subjects I swear...
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Genuinely curious. Can I use Seele LC on Feixiao with this same team comp (My Bronya is E4S1) and achieve a similar performance? (assuming I have similar stats)
It's a nice stat stick but it won't be much better than Stellar Sea. Your Bronya being E4 means you can drop SPD boots for an ATK boots so I guess you could match it? I am not too sure though.
Feixiao, robin, gallagher (e6 multiplication), march 7th hunt e6 / moze viable? If yes, which one is better to build for the team, march or moze? Only looking for e0s1 feixiao, so maybe e2 moze at max..
Meta-wise, supports are more valuable than main DPS's and so is miss Robin, but if you don't care about meta and can already clear most endgame content, then go ahead. Pull for Feixiao!
If you need or want her, get her. Supports will probably get the most reruns anyway. Plus, you have more support options than dps that will match the floor, I would prioritize dps despite the community thinking general use supports are better investment.
Robin or Bronya? Why choose one over the other when I can use both to boost her damage even further lol. Coolest unit released up to date! Although, I still liked the 12 hit ult more. Personal preference.
Pela's only useful eidolon in this run is her E1 so if you're looking to replicate this run, you'll need to wait to get that eidolon. If you're not 0-cycling, then E0 is totally fine. Alternatives are SW and Jiaoqiu.
At the beginning of the video she literally says robin is as important as nihility for acheron or hmc for ff. this 0 cycle only works because the investment is absolutely stupid, getting all 4 characters to 160+ speed and decent substats in their required areas is something you will most likelyy not be accomplishing. so just becareful of your expectations
@@VeskaKnows you seem to misunderstand. I'm not saying this is viable for everyone, but rather, a response to people with their pull priority videos. Giving props to Lis for finding unique ways to play characters.
Between Bronya and Sparkle, which one is better? I don't have Robin, but I do have Bronya and Sparkle. I think Sparkle will be easier if I use Moze instead of March since the team will be more sp hungry, and Sparkle's buff duration will be better for Feixiao's FuA attacks. Is there any big difference between pairing Feixiao with Bronya/Sparkle?
@@LisaraScarlet does having more turns to reset the talent can make up for the loss of damage and not getting stacks due to Feixiao switching to basic attacks and not getting buff on her FuA attacks? Plus being limited to just March as her sub dps since March can't stack Feixiao's ultimate as fast as Topaz/Moze. Sorry if I sound rude and thank you for answering
In a team with Bronya, would Moze E2 be a good alternative to March? I find his animations cooler, and have been wondering about the feasibility of the comp (aven instead of pela) and if I should swap Bronya out for Sparkle
@@LisaraScarlet Yeah, calculations always put him above March. I was somewhat stumped because my builds for both of were still under progress, and I realised I had to pick one sooner or later. Before seeing your video, my original plan with Bronya and Moze was that I would alternate between Basics and Skills on Bronya so that Feixiao is maximizing her own Skill usage to throw more FuAs. This would allow me to compensate for SP management by hitting hard more times. After your video, I do feel a little stumped if I'm being honest. My Bronya is on a -1 spd build, and I have like an almost hyperspeed Sparkle lying around who would probably handle the SP issues but I frankly am unable to decide to due a lack of showcases of this specific combination.
Nice showcase as always but i think comparing acheron without nihility character with feixiao without robin is less accurate (??). I think feixiao without any FuA characters would be a right comparison instead
@@pamud9348 I guess so. I mean, the whole thing is like. Ratio needs a debuffer to function but also extremely strong with Tingyun, it's why the older 0-cycle Ratio vids are always with Pela+Tingyun. Even though Tingyun isn't mandatory like Pela, the synergy is too strong. This is basically Feixiao in a nutshell. Another FUA = debuffer. Robin = Tingyun.
Thanks for this showcase. I’ve been scared of being attacked by keyboard warriors for saying it but frankly people use the shiny new 5 star supports as a crutch for lack of game knowledge. Know how to make the game work for you, not against you, and with the right strategy even 4 stars with F2P builds can get through everything fine. People asserting that you need whatever five star character are doing Hoyoverse’s dirty work for them. You do not in fact need to give the multi billion dollar gacha game company your money. Their games are not pay to win. They just want you to think that.
If by "game knowledge" you mean getting lucky with my relics and have everyone be on eagle set with 160+ speed and also pulling S5 of every 4 star LC, then boy i have zero knowledge of this game. People pull all this fancy 5 star units not as a crutch for game knowledge but because it provides comfort to them. You don't need to have unrealistic builds that will take months to build when you can make do with decent relics while getting carried by the sheer strength of the character's kit Also keep in mind 0 cycling is just a showcase for the most part. Your average player is fine with taking more cycles than that as long as you can 3 star the MoC. Be it 8 cycles one side and 2 cycles the other, as long as you clear it it's fine
Wait guys what team is better Feixiao(high crit rate low crit damage) march 7th(hunt) Moze(planing to E6 him or atleast get his E4) feixiao Robin( E0 S0) Moze
@@fuecocomaster5463 i'm not even denying that hunt is good, i'm just surprised hunt have to go with some extra steps like not using this and that to prove it Meanwhile some blast and aoe carry really crying when they didn't get the optimal buffs/debuffs for them
This team is also SP hungry so March is definitely the better choice here. But if you running sustain that's not SP hungry, Moze and Topaz has higher dps output compared to March. The TLDR should be if using Bronya, go March, no Bronya, Moze is great.
I think its valid, robin isnt used here but the relic substats are absolutely broken...if you gave firefly substats akin to whats going on here and teammates with equally insane substats you'd probably see something similar happening
@@VeskaKnowsHell nah mate. No amount of extra break will compensate for losing a whole ass 100% superbreak mult. That's like acheron losing all her flower procs and bounce hits. It won't be the same unit
@@michaelharis9962yes. You could almost argue robin is necessary to allow feixiao to reach her full potential, as they are so synergistic with each other. Hmc and firefly, on the other hand, is simply an inseparable pair, at least until they release a 5-star hmc alternative. But then again, that just indicates that ff totally requires a specific kind of booster with whom she has an extremely symbiotic relationship, much more so than any other pair in the game so far.
@@VeskaKnows they aren't broken, no we do not, if you actually have FF and tried a similar scenario you will not 0 cycle, this is only possible cause of the FUA mechanics, ratio can do this too with the same team but FF has no similar team, she NEEDS HMC or RM for now*
So what’s the excuse going to be this time? Unrealistic relics? March 7th carried? MoC buff is OP? How many times do people have to demonstrate that she’s a monster before everyone else catches on?
@@Narberalgamma1 if you're talking about velleitys vid then I'm convinced that you don't know how to read. 0 cycling an MoC is easy, low cost 0 cycling is hard (basically the less limited chars that team has the better), it's the same reason why Firefly gets all the hate and shits since shes not good under low cost 0 cycle (ex. Himeko outshines her on Choir with 0 cost while the best for Firefly is 2 cost trotterless and 1 cost with Trotter). It's also the same reason why Seele is still very good, she utilizes 4* chars very well so 1 cost Seele is the best character as of right now, getting an even better upgrade at 2 cost but that's also where a lot of Meta dpses get their huge upgrade.
@@Narberalgamma1 really? is it the Velleity's vid with 8 fricking cost? And they get to use E1S1 Robin and E1S1 Ruan Mei? Nah you tripping if you thought that Feixiao can just be swapped by anyone in this team
@@Narberalgamma1 The next moc buff doesn't suit her, but she still cleans at the lowest cost possible. And besides, did you watch the previous video? Lisara did 0 cycle without using Feixiao's ultimates. Seriously, you'd have to be blind not to see how strong she is.
I really want Feixiao, but I still need Robin since I didn't get her because I lost the 50/50 last time (I have guaranteed now). Should I pull for Robin or Feixiao instead?
Lisara, quantum set not better with such def shred from S1 + Pela, and maybe silver wolf cuz it is hut heroes and always 1 target aoe def shred from pela not worth?
I can't experiment with Quantum because I don't have resources left. SW just increases the team's cost while struggling to have her ULT up on every enemy.
Nah, I don’t think quantum set would work here. Feixiao already has 54% DEF shred from LC, and Pela has 40% from Ult then another 10+% from Resolution LC. The DEF shred/ignore will be overcapped. Ok tbf, maybe when Pela’s ult DEF shred is on down time Quantum might work, but that kinda rarely happens in 0-cycling.
So hypotetically if i replace Pela with Adventurine i expect the result to be a little better, right? I'm just waiting to pull for someone that will be in the same team as my Bronya e1 that i built and never used 😂
Lisara once again proving the most meta strat will always be good game knowledge.
The Prydwen site listed one of Robins downsides that she requires galaxy brain to full utilize. Relateable.
Skill gap
@@jannisopelhonestly based lmao, because is true, Robin may be op asf, but you need to know what are you doing
@@jannisopel that is really funny to read, considering how HSR battle system lacks almost any complexity.
@@yuzu3754 i'd like to present you eagle set tuning.
What's cool is that Feixiao is just perfect to be March's Shifu. I wonder if the story reflects it. Anyway - great showcase. Grinding gear for Feixiao like mad rn. I've missed the LC for Acheron and don't have Ruan Mei for Firefly. But hopefully this time I'll get all the pieces of the puzzle, I'm close to pity for both the hero and LC, and have Robin geared up.
Shifu is Chinese for "Master" after all.
@@xenoemblem7 Yup, that's what I meant. It would be cool if the General herself mentored March, if only for a little bit :)
feixiao is the best driver for march 7th, topaz and e1 jade.
@@leylintempest1714 Sadly, of all the heroes listed I only have March :(
also best driver for moze too I think atleast@@TwiDancer
It's nice that Bronya is still finding her place ^^ 100% advance forward is sooo good to have still. Even if Feixiao has to basic attack, she's still getting more turns from Bronya which helps proc her talent more.
remember when sparkle came out and everyone was doomposting saying bronya is powercrept
they're not in competition they just have different roles it's cool
@@theonetheycallheadspace2899 I mean Sparkle would have allowed 2 better characters for FX to be slotted in (Moze or Topaz), also buffed all of FX's out of turn actions, and had no skipped skills which is like 80-100k+ for each one skipped, just from FX alone. I think it's fair to say she has been power crept, but we also have ridiculously strong F2P units like Hunt March that literally lets you dish out 100k basics every 1 and a half turns for no SP, on top of also buffing FX a bit, and that helps Bronya's case A LOT. It's also not like Feixiao isn't effectively ignoring all of the mobs defenses at this point considering her LC gives her another layer of Pela ult + Resolution......
Acting like she could be E0S0 and still 0 cycle this smoothly a patch ago while giving up 3 of the DPSs skills, in anything other than break which also has its own broken support in HMC, is wild. She comes back into relevance when a 4 star gets its wings.
@@Gration_sparkle really doesn't synergize with fx much at all
Sparkle largely replaced her for 0 speed crit hypercarries but she still holds some very strong positions
High speed carries like FX or Boothill are big examples where sparkles falls flat simply because 50% AA=/=100%
You can't run an X-1 speed sparkle, you can run bronya
It's just a role difference thing
@@theonetheycallheadspace2899If you're using sparkle with fx, give fx attack boots and sparkle 160+ speed. It's really that simple
@@theonetheycallheadspace2899 The character who buffs stuff out of turn and gives more turns.....doesn't synergize with the character who wants more turns and has out of turn actions.....weird. Even weirder, thinking half the extra actions suddenly means sparkle's AV wouldn't be great, especially when more damage is coming out of the team more often considering everyone is spamming......
So weird.
Love how Bronya buffed March 7th 3 times before the battle
I learned something new today
she didn't, the atk buff is for everyone but march's technique requires 3 other techniques to be used in order to gain stacks at the start
@@miyakofuyama I didn't know that, good info to have.
3:37 The last hit syncs with the whip
couldn't be a better ending
Yatta supremacy always works
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1:10 Damn the timing whit Senti ost
"this is just a march 8th showcase!" he said as he drooled over his keyboard in anger
Okay! Let's make bets! What kind of excuses will people come up with now to say that "she's akshually not that good"?
There's a doomposting guide in the Feixiao mains subreddit. They simply need to follow the next step which is to blame relics 🤣
Why did this keep happening to every dps lately starting with Boothill's release
@@valerie_sees it already happen even before Boothill
@@valerie_seesit always happen every unit, tho it became worse when ff is in beta (even to this day its still ongoing lmao)
Nobody is saying she is bad, she isn't on par with acheron tho
Herrscher of Sentience trailer OST is peak Hoyo music imo. Still my favorite Mihoyo trailer to this day.
I saw a cool Acheron tech which was Fei taking Topaz LC to apply tons of debuff stacks for Acheron. Now i really badly want to see a Acheron, Fei, Robin, JQ team, just for the memes more than anything.
Now thats a team i wanna see. Feixiao for single target and acheron for aoe. But this team will favour acheron, feixiao stack generation will drop
Depending on the relic, it could be possible with wind set Feixiao, JQ can actually help out too @@magoomania6278
Wait that’s pretty interesting actually
just need topaz lc to try this 😩
2:13 [March is thinking...] 🤔
Her last 2 brain cells working overtime
1:52 i like how her ult was unleashed to the beat of the music :)
Can't wait for the "the relics are unrealistic" comments
The Bronya build is pretty damn impressive to be fair. Almost as good as my Sparkle that's also on 4pc Eagle 168 spd S5 DDD, worked on her since day one and just last week finalized that build 😂 That said the Feixiao build is fairly relatable, as long as you're willing to hyper invest into speed and crit rate.
@@bjornnilsson2941 That is true. The budget version nowadays is to use Kalpagni for the 6% boost which sacrifices 10% CDMG from Keel, not too much lost but hey, less farming.
@@LisaraScarlet Oh you're right, I imagine it would be a lot easier on Kalpagni these days, mine is on keel too. "Keel is the real deal", especially since you also need to find some EFF RES subs.
Do you have 168 spd bronyab wirh 170 cd on eagle set? Yeah, would take a whole family fortune to get those piece
@@omega6826 just dedication to the wind domain. Mine is 168 / 190 and I’ve never refreshed ever. Worth all the trash pieces you have to go through to get there? Probably not, at least for the average player.
YATTA THEME SUPREMACY
ALSO THE WHIP AT 1:51 AND 3:41 WAS PERFECT
That disclaimer at 0:17 YES!!! People keep belittling and comparing things that are not at the same level smh
Like if they want to compare things, compare and rate it based on the circumstances, including the teammates damage too if possible.
Your videos are superb guides into the finer details of the game. Thank you as always for the inspiration.
This video is awesome. Even background music insanely synced with the battle.
Feixiao is simply HER
I want her and Lingsha so bad 😭😭
This video gives me hope since I don’t have the RAT team set 🎉 thank you!
Sorry for this unrelated comment but I noticed Herrscher of Sentience's ost so...
LONG LIVE THE HERRSCHER OF SENTIENCE
YATTA
YATTA
YATTA
On one hand, idk why people like hating on firefly so much, on the other, it's quite funny to see the shit they come up with
Cause there's a big super break vs fua meta war rn
let them bait while we ff havers r clearing all endgame modes with ease since her release with the same team , heck even the nxt patch's enemies r still easy to clear. These people act that the jades r wasted on her while on reality we alr have more jades for the nxt unit we want.
@@lurkera7351 real
its genuinely so funny seeing "my unit 0 cycles more than your unit" like why do any of them give a shit
@@hurmmmmphhhamm Usually comes from people who have to make a choice between which unit to get. As someone with all the harmonies and soon to be all their DPSs, it's very rarely crossed my mind on who was better considering they all do the same exact thing in the same number of cycles, barring the clear favoritism when each DPS initially drops.
this has given me hope for my f2p future haha. Im not looking to 0-cycle, just to clear, so the fact that 0-cycling is possible without robin is awesome ncjdskncjsk
Love how easy of a team this would be to build! Thanks for the showcase Lisara!
Aaah! I completely forgot about March's skill giving Ally a speed buff. Ive been suffering with Fei's speedtuning! Thanks for the reminder!
Thanks for the 100% def shred showcase. Been using the def shred comp for Ratio ever since you showcased it back in Ratio's banner. That's all I need to know about Feixiao's damage output.
"Please be open minded to this team. Robin is so essential"
Effortlessly 0 cycles anyways...
With robin they could -1 cycle 🌝
i dont think farming for those relics is effortless but still impressive
@@UOHCUNYlmao those relics are literally crap stuff that are very easy to get
@@shiki7160 those bronya relics are insane
@@UOHCUNYWhat are you smoking dude? There's so many wasted stats on those relics I'd actually cry if you think that's insane as it means you've never seen anything better and RNG hates you....
Interesting music choice here
Goat commenting on another Goat's video
Beast run. Crazy to think you had room for this 0-cycle. Even if Fexiao didn’t kill with ult, you still had March’s Enhanced Basic.
I have loved follow up attacks since the beginning. I spent an unhealthy amount of time trying to get Preservation March to work; even before Topaz’s first banner. I am really happy about how well Hoyo has been treating the play style.
Domineer is actually so perfect for this showcase so i approve your music taste o7
As i believe, HSR is mostly a relic games.
Fascinating clear as always.
That crit ratio is somewhat relatable. Nice
Sorry for bursting your bubble but check out the speed
@@Badieonit’s not an insane build tho? Just high speed high cr that’s it
@@Badieon She is hunt ofc
@@Badieon Sorry to burst your bubble but not eceryone has trash relic like you
@@fastgameknight167 spd build is not insane? Do you have like 10 char with that spd store in your closet?
00:02:45 "Now I have all the time..."
Clean.
I miss this.
this is why i like your videos about 0 cycle
I cannot wait for Feixiao to come home! Great showcase as always Lis ❤
Impressive showcase. Well played
Even crippled my General kicks ass
OURbiter General.
Feixiao's ult is epic
remember FOREVER TRIUMPHANT
Ahhh, Domineer with the whip, great taste.
Just put this in the Feixiao mains sub. Now waiting for the doompost-guide-reader to spawn xD
( And also the grateful ones who your showcase will definetely make happy! )
EDIT: They already arrived xD
Awww you are actually the best!
our no.1 feixiao merchant strikes again
Good music choice Herrscher of Sentience music is great 👍 👌
This is such a good showcase, ty for showing off a f2p friendly team! Question, do we think that Feixiao E0S1 without Robin or Feixiao E0S0 with Robin is better?
"This is nothing but a Robin showc--"
BGM is BANGER !!
Wow. Just wow. I am speechless. This is so great that I must try it myself
But my Brokya is E4 so I'll have to make speed adjustments
Wah- Wahhh teng teng-teng teng teng teng
What a play, pure skills
Her lc actually gives so much def shred its nuts
Once Senti's theme came on I already knew Fei would reverse all creations
The queen always comes through
“Robin carry” mfs in shambles rightnow and let me guess, “March carry” gonna be next on the menu 😂😂😂
Which atp is just a skill issue since it's not like the eidolons leave the event, just the gems
They'll blame bronya and DDD first, like that's not used in every dps 0 cycle
@@ch1dd Some ppl already blaming Bronya in the comments lmfao
@@Gojiradogzillagodzilla this community is a lost cause on some subjects I swear...
Genuinely curious. Can I use Seele LC on Feixiao with this same team comp (My Bronya is E4S1) and achieve a similar performance? (assuming I have similar stats)
It's a nice stat stick but it won't be much better than Stellar Sea. Your Bronya being E4 means you can drop SPD boots for an ATK boots so I guess you could match it? I am not too sure though.
I know Robin technically is best for Feixiao, but I love the idea of using Bronya and her together
2:34 TIL about breaking the second action part… as a day one player I’m embarrassed to say this
This was a strat popular among welt mains, so I don't blame you not knowing
@@pieman2025yeah, it works well for welt and march sustain, since their cc also skips the enemy turn and knocks them down to the next one.
I used this strat alot using preservation march back in 1.0 but nowadays i just kind of forget lmao
@@pieman2025ahh, I’ve never used welt before, that might be why
Quick question would you recommend silence lc on march in general or in certain situations
I mean, it's a good LC as long as you can meet its condition.
Feixiao, robin, gallagher (e6 multiplication), march 7th hunt e6 / moze viable?
If yes, which one is better to build for the team, march or moze? Only looking for e0s1 feixiao, so maybe e2 moze at max..
Looks like a good team if you want a sustain in it. Moze is typically better but March is easily better if your Moze has little to no eidolons.
@@LisaraScarlet march 7th is still better than e2 moze? At which eidolon will moze be better than march?
@@budikuesal7722 Probably starting at E4. It's really hard to say at the moment since I haven't played Moze that much yet.
What excuse is next… “not everyone wants to farm for e6 March”?
Can jiaoqiu be a decent robin replacement?
He actually is.
@@LisaraScarlet can you make a vid on that? I'd like to see what are her viable robin replacements, thank you
@@LisaraScarlet thanks🙏 i have e1 and i really wanna play feixiao but im not sure if i can get both robin and feix
0:23 Nice advice for bluds
Thanks for that "Disclaimer"
I didn't like how people say Fei is bad without Robin.
When they compare her to FF or Acheron with their own team comp.
Yeah i will use her with sparkle or bronya, no robin needed👌
Хоть кто-то без долбаной Зарянки записал. Спасибо.
Feixiao is so damn cool. Unfortunately I am really torn between getting Robin and her. I can skip Robin for another FuA DPS right..?? right???
Meta-wise, supports are more valuable than main DPS's and so is miss Robin, but if you don't care about meta and can already clear most endgame content, then go ahead. Pull for Feixiao!
If you need or want her, get her. Supports will probably get the most reruns anyway. Plus, you have more support options than dps that will match the floor, I would prioritize dps despite the community thinking general use supports are better investment.
Depends on what you have, if you have bronya at E4, yes you can skip her but if you wanna buff your overall team's DMG than robin is better pick up
@@BukharaSuparyanto-ry7ig I don't have Bronya E4, only E0. I have Topaz, Sparkle, Aventurine though.
We meet again, yatta bros...
Robin or Bronya? Why choose one over the other when I can use both to boost her damage even further lol.
Coolest unit released up to date! Although, I still liked the 12 hit ult more. Personal preference.
0:54, 3:41 sync with Feixao ult
Feixiao would win.
Any replacements for Pela E6? I have only E0 is it still viable or just pick something else if yes then who?
Pela's only useful eidolon in this run is her E1 so if you're looking to replicate this run, you'll need to wait to get that eidolon. If you're not 0-cycling, then E0 is totally fine. Alternatives are SW and Jiaoqiu.
0 Cycle.... E0S1.... Omg...
Yeah Feixiao is a beast
I see some comments floating around like, tldr pull robin first. And then we have Lis saying orly? Lis will remain one of my favourite creators.
Take note that most of DPS 5 star and Even some 4 star can 0 cycle with triple support and investment, i though that's a common knowledge.
At the beginning of the video she literally says robin is as important as nihility for acheron or hmc for ff. this 0 cycle only works because the investment is absolutely stupid, getting all 4 characters to 160+ speed and decent substats in their required areas is something you will most likelyy not be accomplishing. so just becareful of your expectations
@@xMomoee cool
@@VeskaKnows you seem to misunderstand. I'm not saying this is viable for everyone, but rather, a response to people with their pull priority videos. Giving props to Lis for finding unique ways to play characters.
@@mahiruhoshino ahhh makes sense my apologies 🙇
crazy -1 speed build
Between Bronya and Sparkle, which one is better? I don't have Robin, but I do have Bronya and Sparkle. I think Sparkle will be easier if I use Moze instead of March since the team will be more sp hungry, and Sparkle's buff duration will be better for Feixiao's FuA attacks.
Is there any big difference between pairing Feixiao with Bronya/Sparkle?
Feixiao gets way more actions with Bronya which helps her reset her talent. More actions from Feixiao also helps whoever the other FUA character is.
@@LisaraScarlet does having more turns to reset the talent can make up for the loss of damage and not getting stacks due to Feixiao switching to basic attacks and not getting buff on her FuA attacks? Plus being limited to just March as her sub dps since March can't stack Feixiao's ultimate as fast as Topaz/Moze.
Sorry if I sound rude and thank you for answering
In a team with Bronya, would Moze E2 be a good alternative to March? I find his animations cooler, and have been wondering about the feasibility of the comp (aven instead of pela) and if I should swap Bronya out for Sparkle
My Bronya is E2S1 btw
Moze vs March is always gonna be case by case, sometimes the other isn't better. But at their best, Moze should be slightly better.
@@LisaraScarlet Yeah, calculations always put him above March. I was somewhat stumped because my builds for both of were still under progress, and I realised I had to pick one sooner or later.
Before seeing your video, my original plan with Bronya and Moze was that I would alternate between Basics and Skills on Bronya so that Feixiao is maximizing her own Skill usage to throw more FuAs. This would allow me to compensate for SP management by hitting hard more times.
After your video, I do feel a little stumped if I'm being honest. My Bronya is on a -1 spd build, and I have like an almost hyperspeed Sparkle lying around who would probably handle the SP issues but I frankly am unable to decide to due a lack of showcases of this specific combination.
feixiao is HER
is it the best lightcone for bronya or there is better 4* choice? (except sig)
S5 Dance3x is a requirement to get Bronya's 3rd action per wave.
@@LisaraScarlet ty! I was struggling to find the answer to that specific question
Finally some one doing this WITHOUT Robin lol That speed tho 👀
Speed boot vs atk boot which one is better? (outside of 0 cycle strat) I do have Robin to provide tons of atk already
Speed boots to do the -1 speed setup with Bronya is always gonna be better.
Elden ring has Maideless. Now in HSR, we have Robinless.
What your account is Robinless ? LOL.
If ur using a sustain, which slot is replacable ? Also, i assume Gallagher is the best sustain for her other than Aventurine rit ?
Yes, Gallagher is another good alternative
Pela. Yes, Gallagher is good.
Nice showcase as always but i think comparing acheron without nihility character with feixiao without robin is less accurate (??). I think feixiao without any FuA characters would be a right comparison instead
Not really. I guess its better if you experience it yourself once Feixiao is out. Try her with and w/o Robin.
@@LisaraScarlet have u tried her without any FuA characters? How was is it?
@@pamud9348 Nope because that's like playing Ratio w/o a single debuff source.
@@LisaraScarlet yeah, so its like playing acheron without nihility right?
@@pamud9348 I guess so. I mean, the whole thing is like. Ratio needs a debuffer to function but also extremely strong with Tingyun, it's why the older 0-cycle Ratio vids are always with Pela+Tingyun. Even though Tingyun isn't mandatory like Pela, the synergy is too strong.
This is basically Feixiao in a nutshell. Another FUA = debuffer. Robin = Tingyun.
Thanks for this showcase. I’ve been scared of being attacked by keyboard warriors for saying it but frankly people use the shiny new 5 star supports as a crutch for lack of game knowledge. Know how to make the game work for you, not against you, and with the right strategy even 4 stars with F2P builds can get through everything fine. People asserting that you need whatever five star character are doing Hoyoverse’s dirty work for them. You do not in fact need to give the multi billion dollar gacha game company your money. Their games are not pay to win. They just want you to think that.
If by "game knowledge" you mean getting lucky with my relics and have everyone be on eagle set with 160+ speed and also pulling S5 of every 4 star LC, then boy i have zero knowledge of this game.
People pull all this fancy 5 star units not as a crutch for game knowledge but because it provides comfort to them. You don't need to have unrealistic builds that will take months to build when you can make do with decent relics while getting carried by the sheer strength of the character's kit
Also keep in mind 0 cycling is just a showcase for the most part. Your average player is fine with taking more cycles than that as long as you can 3 star the MoC. Be it 8 cycles one side and 2 cycles the other, as long as you clear it it's fine
Feixiao doing this at 99/93 is kinda crazy
No Robin.
Only Hunt.
Final Destination!
Wait guys what team is better
Feixiao(high crit rate low crit damage) march 7th(hunt) Moze(planing to E6 him or atleast get his E4)
feixiao Robin( E0 S0) Moze
Out of those two, the latter. The actual best team tho? Feixiao, Robin, Topaz and Aventurine(or Bronya if you have enough confidence to 0 cycle)
Robin will always be better than March or Moze and its not even close
Hunt really have to go this way just to prove that hunt is good 😂
does this not prove that Hunt is good? I swear you all keep digging yourself deeper with every new video
@@fuecocomaster5463 i'm not even denying that hunt is good, i'm just surprised hunt have to go with some extra steps like not using this and that to prove it
Meanwhile some blast and aoe carry really crying when they didn't get the optimal buffs/debuffs for them
@@fuecocomaster5463 bro lacks reading comprehension skills
A question, i'm new, is it recommended to pull for her or wait for the Acheron rerun?
Feixiao will be one of the strongest like Acheron so yea, I recommend getting her.
@@LisaraScarlet oh nice, another question, is better feixiao + weapon or feixiao + robin
@@lletsig7658 Feixiao + Robin.
@@LisaraScarlet ty ty 😄
Did you have a chance to try Topaz or Moze on March slot? Not sure which one is the best sub dps for Feixiao.
Topaz or Moze is typically better but breaking Kafka is only possible with March unless you use Ruan Mei.
I feel like it’s case by case. Marchie is likely better here because she can help break
This team is also SP hungry so March is definitely the better choice here.
But if you running sustain that's not SP hungry, Moze and Topaz has higher dps output compared to March.
The TLDR should be if using Bronya, go March, no Bronya, Moze is great.
Now imma wait for a 5* version of hunt M7
i have, feixiao, robin , march, what should i add for the last one ?? f2p
Any sustain is fine if you're not aiming to 0-cycle but Gallagher or Aventurine stands out.
i saved around 120 pulls. lost pulling for robin 😭 then i used the guaranteed for fei. now i live with 43 jades and a dream to get robin-
I don't think robin-feixiao can be compared to hmc-firefly. Firefly simply cannot do without hmc.
I think its valid, robin isnt used here but the relic substats are absolutely broken...if you gave firefly substats akin to whats going on here and teammates with equally insane substats you'd probably see something similar happening
fr, it is more like Firefly with Ruan Mei
@@VeskaKnowsHell nah mate. No amount of extra break will compensate for losing a whole ass 100% superbreak mult. That's like acheron losing all her flower procs and bounce hits. It won't be the same unit
@@michaelharis9962yes. You could almost argue robin is necessary to allow feixiao to reach her full potential, as they are so synergistic with each other. Hmc and firefly, on the other hand, is simply an inseparable pair, at least until they release a 5-star hmc alternative. But then again, that just indicates that ff totally requires a specific kind of booster with whom she has an extremely symbiotic relationship, much more so than any other pair in the game so far.
@@VeskaKnows they aren't broken, no we do not, if you actually have FF and tried a similar scenario you will not 0 cycle, this is only possible cause of the FUA mechanics, ratio can do this too with the same team but FF has no similar team, she NEEDS HMC or RM for now*
So what’s the excuse going to be this time? Unrealistic relics? March 7th carried? MoC buff is OP?
How many times do people have to demonstrate that she’s a monster before everyone else catches on?
Dude this moc people do with march 7 feat sushang 0 cycle . Its just merchant works to sell feixao . U can swap her for same result.
@@Narberalgamma1 Source? Was it Velleity's vid?
@@Narberalgamma1 if you're talking about velleitys vid then I'm convinced that you don't know how to read. 0 cycling an MoC is easy, low cost 0 cycling is hard (basically the less limited chars that team has the better), it's the same reason why Firefly gets all the hate and shits since shes not good under low cost 0 cycle (ex. Himeko outshines her on Choir with 0 cost while the best for Firefly is 2 cost trotterless and 1 cost with Trotter). It's also the same reason why Seele is still very good, she utilizes 4* chars very well so 1 cost Seele is the best character as of right now, getting an even better upgrade at 2 cost but that's also where a lot of Meta dpses get their huge upgrade.
@@Narberalgamma1 really? is it the Velleity's vid with 8 fricking cost? And they get to use E1S1 Robin and E1S1 Ruan Mei? Nah you tripping if you thought that Feixiao can just be swapped by anyone in this team
@@Narberalgamma1 The next moc buff doesn't suit her, but she still cleans at the lowest cost possible. And besides, did you watch the previous video? Lisara did 0 cycle without using Feixiao's ultimates. Seriously, you'd have to be blind not to see how strong she is.
I really want Feixiao, but I still need Robin since I didn't get her because I lost the 50/50 last time (I have guaranteed now). Should I pull for Robin or Feixiao instead?
Guarantee your Robin first.
man I fr need to start grinding eagle
Lisara, quantum set not better with such def shred from S1 + Pela, and maybe silver wolf cuz it is hut heroes and always 1 target aoe def shred from pela not worth?
I can't experiment with Quantum because I don't have resources left. SW just increases the team's cost while struggling to have her ULT up on every enemy.
Nah, I don’t think quantum set would work here.
Feixiao already has 54% DEF shred from LC, and Pela has 40% from Ult then another 10+% from Resolution LC. The DEF shred/ignore will be overcapped.
Ok tbf, maybe when Pela’s ult DEF shred is on down time Quantum might work, but that kinda rarely happens in 0-cycling.
Nice demo. Could you please make demo of Feixiao E0S1(LG Seele) , Sparkle E0S1, March 7/Moze & Huohuo E0S0/Fu Xuan E0S1 ?
I am already out of materials in CE server 🤣
@@LisaraScarlet Too bad, I wanted to see what the difference would be in cycles compared to Robin.
@@LisaraScarlet you get unlimited materials in CE server? isnt that an oversight?
@@UOHCUNY You mean limited. I don't know if its an oversight, they just give us limited resources and reset everything per banner.
So can I replace pela with aven? Now it really tempt me to pull for feixiao first before robin bcs i really love feixiao
Yes. It will clear slower but at least you're safe with a sustain.
So hypotetically if i replace Pela with Adventurine i expect the result to be a little better, right?
I'm just waiting to pull for someone that will be in the same team as my Bronya e1 that i built and never used 😂
I wouldn't say it would give better results unless you actually have Robin.
hell no. You taking off a huge debuffer for a sustain that offers nowhere near the dmg amp
it is safer. But not better