Why Alan Turing Remains the Unsung Hero of WW2

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  • @lindakay9552
    @lindakay9552 Год назад +701

    My son spent 7 years of his life being a "white hacker." Computer and game security was his life. Coding was his passion. Turing was one of his idols. He passed away at 19 from cardiomyopathy. He would have given huge props to this video. Much love to you for doing Turing's memory justice! 🥰

    • @aryanjagtap313
      @aryanjagtap313 Год назад +33

      I’m sorry for your loss

    • @lindakay9552
      @lindakay9552 Год назад +10

      @@aryanjagtap313 thank you so much.

    • @factsdontlie4342
      @factsdontlie4342 Год назад +10

      My best friend has the same condition. I'm sorry for your loss.

    • @jmcba2213
      @jmcba2213 Год назад

      @@factsdontlie4342these covid vaccines are giving too many heart issues

    • @stankfaust814
      @stankfaust814 Год назад +6

      Thank you for sharing, really sorry for your loss though.

  • @cathiehutcheson6556
    @cathiehutcheson6556 Месяц назад +17

    My father, who was a US navy code breaker in the Pacific during WW2, said the world owes Alan Turing so much, but most of all an apology.

  • @mollyersupermunchable
    @mollyersupermunchable Год назад +624

    Thank you for making this video. Alan Turing is a man with a story that deserves to be known. The thought of this video spreading his story even more, warms my heart.

    • @kamalarif8979
      @kamalarif8979 Год назад +1

      thas gay

    • @mikeFolco
      @mikeFolco Год назад +10

      They should make a movie about him.

    • @coling3957
      @coling3957 Год назад +13

      @@mikeFolco they should make an ACCURATE movie about him, not the thing Benedict Cabbage-patch was in

    • @jeffchad6481
      @jeffchad6481 Год назад

      He was a pedophile btw

    • @ethanselph3665
      @ethanselph3665 Год назад +9

      @@coling3957 how dare you bring Benadryl Thundersnatch into this

  • @dynad00d15
    @dynad00d15 Год назад +356

    Alan Turing is a freakin' legend! I first heard of him when i was a programmer, back in the early 2000s. I learned about his feat with Enigma when i was reading stories about WWII. When his name came up, i immediately stopped and thought : "Hey i know this name!" . I was immediately hooked on his story.

    • @Chris-hx3om
      @Chris-hx3om Год назад +2

      Then you need to watch "The Imitation Game"....

    • @davidarundel6187
      @davidarundel6187 Год назад +3

      I was taught about Benchly Park , and Alan Touring , along with the persecution he suffered post WW2 .
      Just think - if not for Alan Touring , we would have no computers . How far 'advanced' would we be now had Touring not committed suicide , due to poor attitudes by his community - an attitude that still hung around in the 1970s , it got worse in the 1980s .

    • @ZERO_O7X
      @ZERO_O7X Год назад +1

      Search for a "Geheim Machine" and you can buy a kit where you get two. One for you and whoever you want to send messages to.

    • @braddo7270
      @braddo7270 Год назад +1

      @@davidarundel6187 I mean... it depends where you mean. Britain hasn't been that bad for gay people since at least the 70s... I'm quite glad I was born in the early 90s and in britain. Wr already had decades of acceptance and by that point nobody batted an eyelid whatever you liked. Same to this day. May I ask where you're from??

    • @braddo7270
      @braddo7270 Год назад +2

      @TEQ Snukka... its nice to see so many know his name, his lifestyle and respect him regardless. He was also an atheist. Public enemy number 1 at the time 🤣 except he saved the public hahaha

  • @RogueTurban
    @RogueTurban Год назад +486

    one of englands biggest shame is what they did to alan after he saved the entire world

    • @gristlybillow7050
      @gristlybillow7050 Год назад +53

      of england's shame there appears no end

    • @coling3957
      @coling3957 Год назад

      someone like Turing in any other major nation would never have been allowed free. what he did going to the police was incredibly stupid. the police man tried to stop him but he kept on talking..... he had broken the law of the time. he'd lived in an ivory tower all of his life. noone knew of his wartime work, the Enigma wasn't declassified for decades after ww2. Turing is given perhaps far too much credit. there were thousands of ppl at Bletchley , all manner of academics, mathematicians etc he didn't work alone.

    • @iniquity123
      @iniquity123 Год назад +30

      Funny how things have changed in 60-70 years.
      My pronouns are ....

    • @sergemcchampion5881
      @sergemcchampion5881 Год назад +2

      @@iniquity123 😂😂

    • @theUglyGypsy
      @theUglyGypsy Год назад

      The movie kinda sold him out too tho

  • @CatinaTheo12
    @CatinaTheo12 Год назад +44

    Alan Turing doesn’t get recognized enough. His story is one of tragedy and inspiration I first heard of him in The Imitation Game and became obsessed ever since. Hes a genius and if society wasn’t messed up maybe he would’ve been treated like the hero he was.

  • @GIBBO4182
    @GIBBO4182 Год назад +621

    The film with Benedict Cumberbatch in about this is worth a watch. Such a shame his life ended the way it did because of society at the time.

    • @JaredLeesMom
      @JaredLeesMom Год назад +38

      Excellent film! I highly recommend it as well. Tragic end to a truly brilliant young man.

    • @clarkymark1042
      @clarkymark1042 Год назад +37

      Imitation game if I recall correctly

    • @GIBBO4182
      @GIBBO4182 Год назад +5

      @@clarkymark1042 correct

    • @punishedjesus8260
      @punishedjesus8260 Год назад +30

      Nice film but history accuracy is hot garbage tho

    • @aldinsadic6453
      @aldinsadic6453 Год назад +16

      Currently lives continue to end in a similar or more violent way and trans people are suffering the same mistreatment all over the world. 🏳️‍⚧️

  • @matthewread93
    @matthewread93 Год назад +63

    It really upsets me that this wasn't taught in my school. I feel robbed of history and wish this man had his own holiday so we can celebrate the life of a man who saved all of our lives. Sleep well Alen and thank you for my life 🥺

  • @trevorbevan587
    @trevorbevan587 Год назад +88

    The Alan Turing story always fills me with sadness and despair. Your presentation, Thoughty2, is a fitting credit to this British Hero who is so often forgotten in our busy daily lives.
    I was only 7 when Alan was convicted and I can recall the scandal this case caused in the Press.
    Thank goodness the Queen was persuaded to Pardon all those who were cruelly treated by Society in what is now accepted as normal human interactions; where one person shares their affection with another.
    Thank you Thoughty2 for your continued interesting stories and all the hard work you go to, in order to bring us such intriguing stories.

    • @xzavierryan2.072
      @xzavierryan2.072 Год назад +1

      For some reason I feel like I’ve heard the name ‘Alan Turing’ before.

    • @psycronizer
      @psycronizer Год назад +1

      @@xzavierryan2.072 and you'd be right, there is a hell of a lot of vids being recycled, copied, rehashed etc. all over the show here on YT, inevitably uploaders tend to run out of ideas , all the low hanging fruit is picked and then we are left with this type of thing...

    • @happybear3706
      @happybear3706 Год назад +1

      So where’s the colossus though? Where’s all the recognition for Tommy flowers and Bill Tutte who managed to crack the Lorenz cipher (which was used by hitler and his top generals) without ever actually seeing it? Which is far more impressive than what Turing and welchman did for the enigma which was already cracked by the poles.

  • @Saint_Wolf_
    @Saint_Wolf_ Год назад +209

    Alan Turin was one of the greatest minds to ever live, your video along with Veritasium's video about "the hole at the center of math" and Ahoy's video "Videogames, the nuclear fruit" are some of my favorite ones that tell you how his work influenced our whole lives as a whole.

    • @Saint_Wolf_
      @Saint_Wolf_ Год назад +1

      @@Krivvet and?

    • @dunning-kruger551
      @dunning-kruger551 Год назад +4

      @@Saint_Wolf_ Turing.

    • @HarryPairatestes363
      @HarryPairatestes363 Год назад +3

      Agreed. Alan Turning was brilliant! Never could I forget his name!

    • @tevya017
      @tevya017 Год назад +2

      Apparently his close school friend Morley was intellectually as bright or more so had he lived past 16 or so.

    • @braddo7270
      @braddo7270 Год назад

      @@Krivvet having his name misspelled doesn't affect his intellectual ability 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @psow4062
    @psow4062 Год назад +89

    Polish codebreakers were the first to:
    - reconstruct the internal wiring of military version of Enigma
    - successfully use math instead of linguistics (dominant approach at the time)
    - realize many things can be used to reduce the number of combinations to check (Enigma design flaws, German operator errors or laziness, beginning of the message starting the same or similar etc.)
    - build machines to speed up codebreaking
    Not long before the war Germans upgraded Enigma by adding 2 additional rotors. Previously, Poles could break the daily code in 2 hours, after this change it was still possible, but it took too long. Rejewski later commented that "we quickly found the [wirings] within the [new rotors], but [their] introduction ... raised the number of possible sequences of [rotors] from 6 to 60 ... and hence also raised tenfold the work of finding the keys. Thus the change was not qualitative but quantitative. We would have had to markedly increase the personnel to operate the bombs, to produce the perforated sheets ... and to manipulate the sheets". So the Polish codebreakers didn't have theoretical problems at this point - rather a resource problem (they couldn't reliably decode daily keys fast enough, but the theory and developed methods were still mostly good).
    Poles showed the British that with enough resources and correct approach (math + machines) it's entirely possible. So they hired some brilliant people (like Turing) and gave them a lot of resources and all the knowledge the Polish codebreakers gathered in 7 years. And they did an awesome job speeding up / optimizing the code breaking process.
    Think about it as a relay race - both participants were important to achieve the end goal, not just the one that run through the finish line.

    • @mil0s251
      @mil0s251 Год назад +6

      yes!

    • @zacwoods
      @zacwoods Год назад +3

      Didnt know any of this! Thanks! Great backstory for sure and it definitely ties some things together i had questions about before

    • @trevorbevan587
      @trevorbevan587 Год назад +11

      So glad you reminded us of the work of the Polish Team , years before WWII. We often forget the great contributions the Polish made in WWII especially in their skills at the Battle of Britain when they flew our Spitfires with such bravery.
      I often feel that the British do not mention often enough, the Poles and the help they gave us during WWII. Without the Poles, things could have turned out so differently.

    • @DavidPaulMorgan
      @DavidPaulMorgan Год назад

      TBF Thoughty2 did mention the Polish contribution and the fact that there were many many complex contributions to the code-breaking. some luck, some social-engineering, some brute force - just like 'hacking & cracking' today. Fleming & Dahls 'counter intelligence' fictions (see Operation Mincemeat) also made a contribution to distract & mislead Hitler's high command.

    • @trevorbevan587
      @trevorbevan587 Год назад

      @@DavidPaulMorgan Yes, I absolutely agree with you David.
      Another long forgotten contribution from another country was the sacrifices made by the Russian people and their Army. But for the distraction caused to Hitler's aims at World domination, by the Russians, we'd be speaking in German right now.

  • @boriss.861
    @boriss.861 Год назад +41

    You need to talk about the Bricklayers Son!
    Thomas Harold Flowers, BSc, DSc, MBE (22 December 1905 - 28 October 1998) was an English engineer with the British General Post Office. During World War II, Flowers designed and built Colossus, the world's first programmable electronic computer, to help solve encrypted German messages.

    • @HeinrichDixon
      @HeinrichDixon Год назад +5

      He wasn't even mentioned in "The Imitation Game", Boris. A disgraceful omission.
      🍌😤

    • @boriss.861
      @boriss.861 Год назад +2

      @@HeinrichDixon I have not used a search engine, but I remember a BBC series (wash my mouth out with carbolic soap) with names documenting one of their heroes. I think Mr Clarkson highlighted this unsung character from the 1930's onwards.

    • @HeinrichDixon
      @HeinrichDixon Год назад

      @@boriss.861
      "Inventions That Changed The World", BBC, 2004, presented by Jeremy Clarkson: ruclips.net/video/MEQeHCrZJm0/видео.html
      🍌🙂

    • @happybear3706
      @happybear3706 Год назад +6

      And Bill Tutte, who cracked the Lorenz machine without ever seeing one.

    • @curtischilders3024
      @curtischilders3024 Месяц назад

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenz_cipher

  • @bridgetsclama
    @bridgetsclama Год назад +18

    He was absolutely brilliant. It's a shame how his story ended. Thank you for this.

  • @ludoviajante
    @ludoviajante Год назад +68

    Thanks for this video! Your channel can make any subject interesting, I love it when you talk about history. You are an inspiration to me.
    Much love from Brazil.

  • @alexbalfour6041
    @alexbalfour6041 28 дней назад +1

    This is by FAR the best documentary on Turing

  • @Sneaky_5
    @Sneaky_5 Год назад +131

    Always enjoy watching your content! You have a great way of telling these stories and it's always so captivating! Keep up the great work!

  • @perrrry
    @perrrry Год назад +43

    "The Royal Navy captured German U-boat U-110 on May 9, 1941 in the North Atlantic, recovering an Enigma machine, its cipher keys, and code books that allowed codebreakers to read German signal traffic during World War II" This was the real breakthrough. They actually had the machine at their hands.

    • @barneyrubble9309
      @barneyrubble9309 Год назад +7

      they also raided German Weather ships in the North Atlantic and got hold of Code books

    • @uteriel282
      @uteriel282 Год назад +1

      yea not to say turing didnt do incredible work but untill the allies got their hands on an enigma machine, the cipher keys and code books their decryptions didnt go past guess work.
      which was better than nothing but at best they managed to get one out of thousands of messages correct.

    • @tmf866
      @tmf866 Год назад +5

      Yeah. When they got it, they sent it to Turing, who found that without ever having seen one, he had correctly figured out how it worked.

    • @tmf866
      @tmf866 Год назад +2

      @@uteriel282 It wasn't that they failed with 999 out of 1000 messages. It's that it took some time for even the machine to figure it out, so they literally didn't have time to handle all the messages they got. For the ones they thought might be important, they were incredibly successful once they actually made the decision to work on it. If they had 1000 machines, they could have had 1000 times the success rate.

  • @chonpincher
    @chonpincher 6 месяцев назад +3

    He is not an unsung hero. He is a very well celebrated hero - and rightly so.

  • @joz6683
    @joz6683 Год назад +7

    I would love you to cover Tommy Flowers, the engineer behind the 1st computers and how he had to pay for parts himself. He is truly the forgotten man of world war two Flowers designed and built Colossus, the world's first programmable electronic computer, to help solve encrypted German messages. The fact that Britain had the lead in computing and the government ignored Flowers and gave away the lead to US companies. Remember this from computer Studies in the late 1970's early 1980's.

  • @adrianfrr310
    @adrianfrr310 Год назад +24

    As a computer scientist, and someone who did quite a bit of work in post grad crytpo research, I already knew lots about him but watched the video anyway because I knew you would make it very entertaining. Good work, as usual!

  • @petschitt2252
    @petschitt2252 Год назад +31

    Thank you for covering the remarkable Alan Turing! 😻 A man that did so much to ensure our safety today. Most know of the "Turing Test" but not many know how Turing, himself was tested. Cheers 🍻😺

  • @johonybrawo7434
    @johonybrawo7434 Год назад +30

    You forgot that if Polish mathematicians wouldnt brake first Enigma code then Brithish one wouldnt Breake the Enigma 2.0 code. They just walk a path paved by Rejewski, Różycki and Zygalski ;)

    • @SirZanZa
      @SirZanZa Год назад +4

      and how do you know? if the polish can do it why not others? Engima 2.0 was a much more complex machine.

    • @magmus2
      @magmus2 Год назад +4

      The work the Polish intelligence did was cracking a much simpler German machine in 1918, Alan cracked the vastly more complicated WW2 German machine, he did have some help but most of it was done by him.

    • @peterpan4038
      @peterpan4038 Год назад +2

      How exactly did he forget something that was explicitly mentioned in the video?

    • @happybear3706
      @happybear3706 Год назад +5

      Because that imitation game movie is completely wrong. Alan Turing didn’t crack enigma by himself because he had an army of people working alongside him. Gordon welchman (who isn’t even in the movie) who helped Turing co design the bombe machine that was built by Harold keen admitted that if it wasn’t for the poles, the enigma team would of never gotten off the ground.

    • @happybear3706
      @happybear3706 Год назад +4

      Also, So where’s the colossus though? Where’s all the recognition for Tommy flowers and Bill Tutte who managed to crack the Lorenz cipher (which was used by hitler and his top generals) without ever actually seeing it? Which is far more impressive than what Turing and welchman did for the enigma which was already cracked by the poles.

  • @nickevershedmusic8927
    @nickevershedmusic8927 Год назад +57

    Rest in peace Alan Turing, you were an incredible man

    • @psycronizer
      @psycronizer Год назад

      do you know why they buried him with his bum sticking just out of the ground ? it was so his mates could slip around for a cold one...

    • @felicitybywater8012
      @felicitybywater8012 Год назад +3

      RIP Turing, you bloody legend.

    • @hugh.g.rection5906
      @hugh.g.rection5906 Год назад

      and a bumder

    • @jessiehuynh7495
      @jessiehuynh7495 Год назад

      No piece to him he was gh3y.

  • @diegolatorre6793
    @diegolatorre6793 Год назад +1

    The best part of your videos is the type of humor you introduce. Storytelling is remarkable.

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 Год назад +9

    Alan Turing is a hero of the highest level. Perhaps he didn't have superpowers or a superhero name, he nonetheless is a man whose life saved others. Literally in the case of breaking the Enigma Machine, and then posthumously with Alan Turing's Law. WW2 is strangely dotted with so many tiny points upon which the fate of the world turned. Turing is one of those points in my opinion. Imagine what would have happened if he hadn't worked in cryptography? Or if he worked for the other side of the war? I think the video is absolutely right in saying Turing was a sort of weapon, not unlike Oppenheimer.

  • @jonathanmunz
    @jonathanmunz Год назад +3

    As a fellow Computer Scientist, Alan Turing has always been a hero of mine. Another video well done.

  • @crippninja4664
    @crippninja4664 Год назад +1

    I don’t know if it’s because of my suggestion that I made to you within the last few weeks or so but either way I am so happy to see you do a video on Alan Turing and I am incredibly grateful. Thank you so much for doing this.He really does truly deserve it and I think the world owes him a great debt of gratitude and we should actually be celebrating a holiday in his honor. It’s just so sad with the world did to him instead. We definitely need to redeem ourselves and give him The acknowledgment he so unjustly denied to him. I just subscribed. The end actually made me tear up a little bit. 🍻 cheers mate. You did an incredible job, thank you. #AlanTuringDay

  • @feeterican
    @feeterican Год назад +45

    Funny how I end up knowing about these fellas is by what gen Nvidia GPU I get. The 20 RTX series was named after Turing, the 30 RTX line is named after Ampere. Then Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell to name some of the older gen cards.

    • @jackwinter1507
      @jackwinter1507 Год назад

      Pascal as well, however I don’t know who Maxwell is, do you?

    • @jianng7795
      @jianng7795 Год назад

      @@jackwinter1507 James Clerk Maxwell I imagine.

    • @roax206
      @roax206 Год назад +2

      Then arguably the best is coming with the 40 series named after Ada Lovelace. SHE is credited as being the first programmer and supposedly writing a thesis as to the use of computers for more than typical math calculations in the "notes" section of Charles Babbage's Thesis on his Analytical Engine.
      According to some stories, the "notes" section was 3 times longer than Babbage's original paper and added when Ada translated the paper into another language.
      All this almost 100 years before Turing.

    • @feeterican
      @feeterican Год назад

      @@roax206 I could agree, just hope to get my hands on one when they release and I really hope the power requirements are exaggerated. I did just get a 1200W PSU but the heat might be a possible issue. :)

  • @TheJammyboi
    @TheJammyboi Год назад +19

    Really is a disgrace how this man was treated after all he did for the world.

    • @KipIngram
      @KipIngram 7 месяцев назад +1

      Unspeakably disgraceful, and on top of that unbelievably . Killing the golden goose, and for the most absolutely ridiculous reasons.

  • @Earth_Being
    @Earth_Being Год назад +9

    Arran you are an inspiration for "Discipline" man 💪🏻 ❤️
    May Thoughty2 brand grows beyond limits 📈

  • @Moon_animation_studio
    @Moon_animation_studio Год назад +2

    As a computer science student myself, I know how hard it is to code and program. It is something not everyone can do, Alan Turing's skills were much more than remarkable it was truly a feat of unreachable heights.

  • @insidiousbeatz48
    @insidiousbeatz48 Год назад

    Finally another video, the time between these is getting longer and i appreciate you're busy but i miss them and appreciate all your effort. Ty

  • @kennedy9464
    @kennedy9464 Год назад +26

    Fantastic. Loved this. Can't get enough of your content.

  • @Gemini540
    @Gemini540 Год назад +38

    Well that's my evening sorted! :D Nice cup of tea and a notebook on hand! Thank you for being the most consistently brilliant channel on the platform at the moment Thoughty2!

    • @ismarwinkelman5648
      @ismarwinkelman5648 Год назад +1

      My thoughts exactly!

    • @birdflipper
      @birdflipper Год назад

      Check out Why Files for more great videos like this!

    • @marc_frank
      @marc_frank Год назад +2

      why a notebook?

    • @ismarwinkelman5648
      @ismarwinkelman5648 Год назад +1

      @@marc_frank Why not? Personally I find it most relaxing to take notes whilst listening to Arran 🙂

    • @Gemini540
      @Gemini540 Год назад +4

      @@marc_frank I like to make notes on subjects that fascinate me so that I can discuss them accurately with my friends later on :)

  • @lorrainemoynehan6791
    @lorrainemoynehan6791 Год назад +1

    Alan Turing was born in Maida Vale, but the family moved to St Leonards as a child, where St Michaels was his first school. His prep school was in Frant (just outside Tunbridge Wells) so while it is true he cycled to Sherborne, he did the journey from st Leonards (East Sussex) rather than London.The distance is 176miles. What a legend

  • @davidcarroll1991
    @davidcarroll1991 Год назад +1

    I wish he could post 2-3 times a week 😞. I’m constantly checking my notifications for a new Thoughty2 video. I just can’t get enough of this wonderful channel

  • @GayFrogsTho
    @GayFrogsTho Год назад +5

    Alan Turing's story deserves to be up there on the podium of eccentric British geniuses. It's a travesty what happened to him.

  • @TeddysTube
    @TeddysTube Год назад +23

    Author Roger Bristow, while researching for a new book; "Boffins, Bombs, Boats and Balloons", unearthed Turing's post mortem report, and found that although the report officially concluded that he died from cyanide poisoning, the final sentence that the pathologist who examined Turing’s body wrote in his report was “Death appears to to be due to violence”. - The "Snow-White-Poisoned-Apple" version has often been used to emphasize the tragedy of the injustice done to Turing.. Personally though I much suspect that the original intention of that tale rather was to smear Turing's name, by painting in gross colors just HOW much of a "fruit" he was. (This was the early 1950s) - For whatever reason, it would seem that Turing was beaten to death, but the official report wrote it off as suicide, in such a way as to discourage any sympathies.

    • @smhaceofspades2813
      @smhaceofspades2813 Год назад

      Well he should of been rethinking his actions otherwise I see no issue with his case.

    • @victoriaeads6126
      @victoriaeads6126 Год назад +2

      I am in no way surprised by your assertions. I wouldn't be completely convinced without documentation (yes, I understand that much has been destroyed), but, knowing what can be affirmed, it makes disgusting sense.

    • @psycronizer
      @psycronizer Год назад

      shouldn't it be "Boffins, Bombs, Boats and Balloons and buggery" ?

  • @this_is_ironic5659
    @this_is_ironic5659 Год назад +5

    Rest In Peace, Alan Turing. You were a hero in the fight against fascism, and you didn't deserve your fate. I'm so sorry about the way they treated you.

  • @pelculator
    @pelculator 9 месяцев назад

    Very informative video, thanks. A good number of years ago when studying at university, i was tasked to write an essay about Turing. This was basically pre-internet as that was not available to the general public. Also, internet was restricted at the university due to, let’s say, questionable events the prior year. I was stuck at a poorly stocked library, with little or nothing about Turing. Shame. He was by all means the greatest inspiration for a computer science student.

  • @mayuri4184
    @mayuri4184 Год назад +8

    Alan Turing: Is essential to winning WW2 via computer development.
    British Government, after WW2: Y r u gae?

  • @chrispbacon4519
    @chrispbacon4519 Год назад +5

    Great work Arran! I would only add that at 7:30, 1.6 light years is shown as about 10 or 12 astronomical units - it's actually more than 63,000 AU! Which would mean you'd have to shrink the whole solar system down to a barely visible speck to fit it onto the screen and put the 1.6 LY spot on the other side.

    • @tommymarco
      @tommymarco Год назад +1

      nice catch , i was wondering for a second there !

  • @deehinker1848
    @deehinker1848 Год назад +2

    I loved The Imitation Game so much! Benadryl Cucumberbait's acting as Alan was superb!

  • @plipiethefish8174
    @plipiethefish8174 Год назад +1

    I went on a trip whilst at college to a computing museum in england. We got a tour and we saw an actual enigma machine. They gave use a full presentation about it and I'll always remember how lucky I am to see such a part of history!

  • @JoseRodriguez-zk2jj
    @JoseRodriguez-zk2jj Год назад +3

    Glad you're making new and great videos! One of my favorite Brit's

  • @WinVisten
    @WinVisten Год назад +7

    Sure, pardoning and apologizing to someone who's already DEAD will mean a LOT!
    Turing was a man who deserved to be treated infinitely better than he actually was.

  • @StarslightAndDreams
    @StarslightAndDreams Год назад

    i have been waiting for this one! i was looking for a video about him and was surprised to not finding it on this channel!

  • @markalancampbell
    @markalancampbell Год назад +1

    Love your videos. I really look forward to watching them. Keep them coming.

  • @igiem368
    @igiem368 Год назад +4

    Hi thoughty2, I’ve been a fan of your channels for quite a while and I just wanted to put an idea forward for a video. Look into a samurai named
    Hasekura Tsunenaga. He is a Samurai to have travelled to Spain through Mexico around the 1620s.

  • @bestdadakasongoku4157
    @bestdadakasongoku4157 Год назад +102

    Damn that was an unfortunate ending, probably one of the brightest minds we’d ever seen and he was murdered for something he couldn’t even control.

    • @HeinrichDixon
      @HeinrichDixon Год назад +4

      He committed suicide!
      🍌😤

    • @dahken417
      @dahken417 Год назад +7

      Why the banana? I must know!
      Also, I think they meant 'murdered' in the philosophical sense; he only committed suicide when he did because of difficult life circumstances that an outside force intentionally visited upon him. After he made huge contributions to stopping the enemy, which potentially saved Britain.

    • @HeinrichDixon
      @HeinrichDixon Год назад +1

      @@dahken417
      A tribute to a very special friend: It represents a soft 'toy' banana she gave me.
      🍌🙂

    • @justamanofculture12
      @justamanofculture12 Год назад +1

      What about Alan Turing? This has been happening with geniuses for centuries.

    • @hugh.g.rection5906
      @hugh.g.rection5906 Год назад

      @@dahken417 suicide isnt murder

  • @Soooooooooooonicable
    @Soooooooooooonicable Год назад +2

    He's right up there with Churchill as one of the greatest Brits. It's great that he's started to get the proper recognition he deserves.

  • @joseborromeo596
    @joseborromeo596 Месяц назад +2

    Alan Turing was truly a hero of WWII. The UK rewarded him by allowing a judge to convict him of indecency.

  • @YuvrajSingh-vc7ho
    @YuvrajSingh-vc7ho Год назад +10

    I would pay to see this guy in a video just drinking wine from a wine glass in the most British etiquette 😂

    • @psycronizer
      @psycronizer Год назад +1

      yeah it's what comes after that, that would gross most people right out...

    • @YuvrajSingh-vc7ho
      @YuvrajSingh-vc7ho Год назад +1

      @@psycronizer ?

    • @yungjeddy
      @yungjeddy Год назад

      @@psycronizer weirdo

  • @dbunik44
    @dbunik44 Год назад +9

    Turing was not the only one who helped break the enigma machine neither was he the "Hawking" of mathematics, others who helped break the nazi code need to remembered by history

    • @SirZanZa
      @SirZanZa Год назад

      you know nothing

    • @happybear3706
      @happybear3706 Год назад +1

      So where’s the colossus though? Where’s all the recognition for Tommy flowers and Bill Tutte who managed to crack the Lorenz cipher (which was used by hitler and his top generals) without ever actually seeing it? Which is far more impressive than what Turing and welchman did for the enigma which was already cracked by the poles.

    • @Mialikesthings
      @Mialikesthings 9 месяцев назад

      @@happybear3706except that the poles broke a much more simpler version of the enigma they helped he’s but too put done Alan’s complex work then you would be nothing but ignorant

  • @Gmcworrior1
    @Gmcworrior1 Год назад +1

    Thank you sir for bringing to light these sung and unsung heros to light.

  • @jeez297
    @jeez297 Год назад

    Many great new insights on a known topic, beautifully delivered. Thank you

  • @KamikazeMedias
    @KamikazeMedias Год назад +34

    TIME TO CORRECT ONE THING:
    ALAN TURING WORKED ON 95% OF WORK DONE BY POLISH INTELIGENCE.

    • @KamikazeMedias
      @KamikazeMedias Год назад +1

      @@Memovox all we can do is to fight lol

    • @KamikazeMedias
      @KamikazeMedias Год назад

      @@Memovox i will send ya to a fitness club and make you lift for that comment lol

    • @KamikazeMedias
      @KamikazeMedias Год назад +1

      @@Memovox me? A brit? Buahahaha. I'm a proud slav lol.
      I will drag you to a fitness club

    • @KamikazeMedias
      @KamikazeMedias Год назад +1

      @@Memovox
      You are afraid?

    • @KamikazeMedias
      @KamikazeMedias Год назад

      @@Memovox yes you are chicken.

  • @itaylorm
    @itaylorm Год назад +5

    I didn't know about the questionable details about his death. Sad if someone decided to kill him. What haunts me is what he could have accomplished with almost 40 more years of life.

    • @tommymarco
      @tommymarco Год назад +2

      that took a dark twist . had no idea as well . what a remarkable man .

  • @timmytschudi7622
    @timmytschudi7622 Год назад

    I just bought the audio book for stick a flag in it. And you sir. Have no idea how excited I was when I saw that you yourself did the narration !!

  • @MostlyPennyCat
    @MostlyPennyCat Месяц назад +1

    Actually my most unsungest hero from station x is Tommy Flowers.
    Designed and built the first computer out of his own pocket, never paid back, never celebrated, went home, burnt his designs and went back to work at the post office.

  • @doommaker4000
    @doommaker4000 Год назад +7

    Funnily enough, I am wearing a tshirt I won in a cryptography competition and it has on it the people who are responsible for cracking enigma. Wait, people? I thought Turing was one person? And what's with their unpronounceable names...

  • @fattiger6957
    @fattiger6957 Год назад +7

    The thing that ruined the Imitation Game movie was the scene where Turing and his friends, not the commanders, decided how the Allies would deal with the information they decrypted. It was such a monumentally stupid and unrealistic thing that it ruined what was a great movie. I don't know what producer thought it was a good idea, but they were idiots.
    (yes I know the Allies had to be careful with how they reacted to the information. What's stupid in the movie is that Turing was the one to decide.)

  • @tprincipato
    @tprincipato Год назад

    Another excellent addition to the library. Bravo

  • @Jibb3rs
    @Jibb3rs Год назад

    Keep up the good work mate, i learn something new everytime you post a video

  • @BMrider75
    @BMrider75 Год назад +3

    Minor correction :
    At 6.35 you have the example of
    SHRRK ------>
    HELLO
    But, typing the same letter on Enigma twice will never produce the same letter deciphered. The RR to LL is wrong.
    Smiles

  • @anthony346
    @anthony346 Год назад +36

    Amazing documentary as always. Though i do believe it's important to note that although an advocate for his invention, Turing wasn't the sole mind behind It, I know you mentioned a few others briefly but there part was far more substantial than you gave credit for.

    • @smith167
      @smith167 Год назад +2

      I agree, this video should have been an hour long, giving more credit to the polish code breakers and go into more detail of Turing's work on computing contributions, because today to the general public is more widely known as the guy that broke the enigma machine rather than quite simply the father of modern day computing.

    • @MrSuspicious0
      @MrSuspicious0 Год назад +1

      @@smith167 Well whether you like it or not, Alan Turing IS the father of MODERN DAY computing. The father of the computer in general is often regarded as Charles Babbage. Some of babbages core ideas are present in the foundation of modern hardware, but Alan Turing paved the way for people like John von Neumann to make his thought experiment a reality.

  • @elroddel4682
    @elroddel4682 Год назад

    Great video, I knew most of this but you went into more depth. Thank you

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 Год назад

    What he achieved, with comparison to the technological capabilities of his era. Is nothing short of the jump from regular computer CPU's to Quantum super computer technology getting invented and built. It takes someone, able to look at something in such a new and unique way, while equally having a work ethic that will actually make that idea come to life and be built and work thru the trial and error process, the learning of the technical and mechanical technique's process and coming out of that entire thing with a working, ground breaking invention. It is very impressive. Very very impressive. Only very rare and gifted geniuses come around ever so often and actually achieve a achievement of this magnitude. It's very special. Bravos 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @braddo7270
    @braddo7270 Год назад +25

    As a guy who likes guys, I genuinely fell prey to the whole fantastical (and probably liberal) version of events and really thought it was an established fact that that's the reason he died. I didn't know it was debated. I'm from Manchester and go to the Alan Turing garden often. The story we are told is different depending who you ask. Thanks for clearing it up! It's hard to see through the political fog nowadays... and that's why I watch you!! 👌✌️ thank you for looking at history objectively on behalf of us all. 🙏

    • @this_is_ironic5659
      @this_is_ironic5659 Год назад

      He was chemically castrated for being gay, mate. That's the conservative take on this story. Don't delude yourself.

    • @braddo7270
      @braddo7270 Год назад +3

      @@this_is_ironic5659 he chose between that and 2 years imprisonment. I know which I'd choose. He didn't have to have that done, and 2 years imprisonment is nothing compared. Therefore he wasn't required to do what he did. Therefore he made the decision that lead to his deat. I'm a gay man and an atheist just like Turing. I know how I'd have dealt with the situation ✌️👍

    • @MrReymoclif714
      @MrReymoclif714 Год назад

      Cottaging was the charge.

  • @magnificus8581
    @magnificus8581 Год назад +9

    Funny, I just watched the Imitation Game a couple days ago. Good movie, but many historians believe that their contributions are overrated and the efforts of others, particularly the Poles have been passed over. Not sure, not an expert, just what I've read when researching the accuracy of the film.

    • @SirZanZa
      @SirZanZa Год назад +1

      poles broke a much simpler pre 1920s version not the vastly more complex ww2 version

    • @happybear3706
      @happybear3706 Год назад +2

      So where’s the colossus though? Where’s all the recognition for Tommy flowers and Bill Tutte who managed to crack the Lorenz cipher (which was used by hitler and his top generals) without ever actually seeing it? Which is far more impressive than what Turing and welchman did for the enigma which was already cracked by the poles.

  • @1998_Pat
    @1998_Pat Год назад +1

    Arran, you did it again! Awesome job, thanks for mentioning the input of Polish enigma code-breakers in this video! :))) My next proposal would be a story about 303rd "Tadeusz Kościuszko Warsaw" Fighter Squadron who fought pretty well in the Air Battle for England and then were not invited to the victory parade in 1946 :/ 'Western betrayal' may also be an interesting fact to mention ;) Peace and love!

  • @scottsevers6194
    @scottsevers6194 2 месяца назад

    Thanks making such a wonderful video

  • @Cander617
    @Cander617 Год назад +12

    All he did for the world and we repaid him with accusations and humiliation, what a shame.

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor Год назад

      According to my American upbringing, it's his fault for being who he is

    • @Cander617
      @Cander617 Год назад

      @@Dave_of_Mordor thats bs my experience is people we're just not as evolved and accepting now they are more so. Look at the difference between how gay people were treated then vs now much different because we got less ignorant and more accepting, nothing wrong with growing as a society.

    • @Dave_of_Mordor
      @Dave_of_Mordor Год назад

      @@Cander617 evolve and acceptance? You mean in just two states? California and New York? What other states in America has the majority accepting gay people?

    • @Cander617
      @Cander617 Год назад

      @@Dave_of_Mordor its much better than it was everywhere as far as society accepting that type of thing. "According to my american upbringing".. unbelievable, people are so damn ungrateful for those who have died so people like you can type your ungrateful little messages on your 1000$ phone safetly in your nice home and talk about how bad your american upbringing is.

    • @antiabrahamicreligion
      @antiabrahamicreligion Год назад

      @@Dave_of_Mordor be happy atleast what u have
      im from india

  • @Leymora
    @Leymora Год назад +3

    Alan Turing: *"I am not a robot ✅"*

  • @3Dfuntastic
    @3Dfuntastic Год назад +2

    Brittain has always had a history of killing the goose with the golden eggs....

  • @IDreamOfLogic
    @IDreamOfLogic Год назад

    Why do I find it increasingly difficult to hold back my tears when watching your videos?

  • @leviathantoobz
    @leviathantoobz Год назад +15

    Alan Turing is an amazing person and the end of his life was so tragic. God rest his soul.

    • @PrairieWolff
      @PrairieWolff Год назад

      @Roman Black
      Pee Dough spotted.
      Deviants are geniuses? Tell that to yourself, gr oo mer

  • @kingpuppet5881
    @kingpuppet5881 Год назад +41

    He was an incredible man and his country let him down immensely , simply for being a gay man. As a gay man I just want to say that your sexuality does not define you. In fact it's probably the least important part of what makes a person, their sexual orientation I mean. It's heartbreaking what happened to him. I am so glad he has got the recognition he deserves, a truly incredible man.

    • @curtisbryce5096
      @curtisbryce5096 Год назад +1

      Try telling that to Hollyweird and all the gay activists.

    • @Ice.muffin
      @Ice.muffin Год назад

      @@curtisbryce5096 Ikr. I agree with the OP tho.

    • @kingpuppet5881
      @kingpuppet5881 Год назад +4

      @@curtisbryce5096 Erm you are being a tad homophobic are you not? If not, what do you mean precisely?

    • @curtisbryce5096
      @curtisbryce5096 Год назад

      @@kingpuppet5881 Maybe you should reign in your criticisms and labels. before we talk. Calling someone "Homophobic" is so off the wall ridiculous. I mean really, what is there to fear from "homosexuals"? Can you honestly tell me there is no "Gay" mafia in Hollyweird and on Broadway and they don't have an agenda?

    • @glennllewellyn7369
      @glennllewellyn7369 Год назад

      Thus proving the point. You must tell us won’t you?
      Nobody else does.

  • @DKQuagmire
    @DKQuagmire Год назад

    i remember on a holiday flight i had once, flicking through all the available on flight movies on the tiny screen in front of me (on the back of the chair in front of me), when i stumbled upon "the enigma machine". i watched it, and i was deeply fascinated by this guy and the machine he build, but also felt really sad for the suicide portrait at the end of the film. just before the credits rolled. the screen goes black and the viewer watching the film are given a brief context in writing, into how he influenced many things in the future, such as the alan turing law and so on, which was pretty cool.

  • @MathLilly
    @MathLilly 9 месяцев назад +1

    No. No way his life ended so sad. Dang. I'm in tears. The computer has help connect me to community many times. To see the founder of the science rejected by his is heartbreaking.

  • @adventuresofdeankane3569
    @adventuresofdeankane3569 Год назад +15

    Before he broke the code a young girl divised a system to sink subs and porotect convoys and it worked the first depth charge was a kill
    She is well worth reading into

    • @lythd
      @lythd Год назад

      do u know the name so i can research that?

    • @101Mant
      @101Mant Год назад +3

      @@lythd the UK had a department to basically wargame how to fight the U-boats and they came up with loads of successful tactics.
      They started training the British Navy officers, you would play the game "blind" with just the information you would have. There is a story about a senior officer losing and asking to see their opponent who was a young women who worked there coming up with the tactics.
      When the US joined they were offered to participate by the Admiral in charge of the convoys hated the British and ignored everything they had learned and so the Americans took large losses from the U Boats initially.

  • @RiseAgainstDisciple
    @RiseAgainstDisciple Год назад +33

    Enigma was broken mostly by 3 polish mathematicians; rejewski, rozycki & zygalski

    • @naminea2480
      @naminea2480 Год назад +7

      Exactly!

    • @LyleFrancisDelp
      @LyleFrancisDelp Год назад

      Then...why was Turing given credit?

    • @Emdee5632
      @Emdee5632 Год назад +3

      In the end Enigma was maybe broken by how punctional the Germans themselves were. Its messages always followed a certain ''grammar''. The famous movie goes into this somewhat, but not all the way.

    • @SirZanZa
      @SirZanZa Год назад +4

      They broke a much simpler version of the enigma the one created in 1918 not the vastly more complex 1939-1945 version why would the Germans use a machine they already knew was defeated.

    • @adamk.4767
      @adamk.4767 Год назад

      Thanks to the invention of the cryptology bomb, Poles coped with the Nazi code until 1938, when the Germans improved enigma, but the method they invented remained the same, the only problem was increasing "computing power"

  • @ElDantae
    @ElDantae Год назад

    Thanks for uploading!!

  • @twoshirts1842
    @twoshirts1842 Год назад

    I havnt got notifications of your uploads in like a month for some reason. Oh well back log binge.

  • @carbon_no6
    @carbon_no6 6 месяцев назад +5

    I wish I could be happy that Turing was give a full pardon… it’s just a horrible shame that he was looked upon as a stain on our species just because he didn’t fit the societal norm.

  • @canturgan
    @canturgan Год назад +7

    He wouldn't have been able to do any of it without the help of the criminally overlooked Tommy Flowers. He went to a state school and never went to university, he worked for the Post Office. He was self taught and created Collosus, the first electronic computer.

    • @smith167
      @smith167 Год назад

      and Tommy flowers would have never been able to create the colossus if Allen Turing had never published the first mathematical proof of a computerised code known as "101100011" which every electronics gadget on earth runs to this day.

    • @canturgan
      @canturgan Год назад

      @@smith167 Yes, a meeting of minds. What are the chances of that happening? I'm sure they could have worked that out too.

    • @smith167
      @smith167 Год назад

      @@canturgan my point is they both great who literally changed the world and flowers deserves a lot more credit than he gets, but I still maintain that Turing's contribution far exceed that of Tommy flowers. like I said everything runs on ones and zeros and that was quite simply genius since it didn't even exist before Turing publishing his papers, as far as I know. maybe I am completely wrong lol

    • @canturgan
      @canturgan Год назад

      @@smith167 He was an actual genius. His treatment from the authorities was a national disgrace.

  • @justinv588
    @justinv588 Год назад +1

    It's crazy that I have never heard this story. I mean, I know who Turing was and cracking enigma but it's insane I never knew the rest. Thank you for making this.

  • @dtaylor10chuckufarle
    @dtaylor10chuckufarle Год назад +1

    Thanks for mentioning the Poles, Old Boy. Their contribution is often overlooked.

  • @nigeldepledge3790
    @nigeldepledge3790 Год назад +9

    The Enigma code was cracked before the war in Europe even began, and not at Bletchley Park, but in eastern Europe (I don't recall if the work was done in Poland or in Czechoslovakia). However, it took a long time to decode a message, because the decryption process had to derive the initial settings of the Enigma's code wheels from the coded message alone.
    Turing's huge contribution was to invent algorithms for cracking the initial settings that could be actualized in the form of a machine - initially the Bomb, and, later, Colossus.

    • @jamesslick4790
      @jamesslick4790 Год назад +3

      Poland. It's covered in this very video.

  • @MrHellknightimp
    @MrHellknightimp Год назад +4

    Commenting before I watch, are you going to talk about the teenage boys?

  • @Bjowolf2
    @Bjowolf2 Год назад +2

    Andrew Hodges book "Alan Turing - The Enigma", on which the movie "The Imitation Game" with Benedict Cumberbatch & Kira Knightly was loosely based, is a really great read and explains all these technical things in much greater detail in an understable and fascinating way.

  • @DayngerDayne
    @DayngerDayne Год назад +1

    I remember when 42 had 100,000 subs I always knew he would blow up & I’m glad he did. Cool guy

  • @retrochronic44
    @retrochronic44 Год назад +4

    You should make a video about how the oldest person in the world lived to her age while being unhealthy.

    • @Dietrich_Kaufmann
      @Dietrich_Kaufmann Год назад +4

      By not being stressed all the time 💯 that shit will take years off your life

  • @mikemattingly5128
    @mikemattingly5128 Год назад +3

    Story more sad than even Teslas. Messed up world

  • @kyallogideon8625
    @kyallogideon8625 Год назад

    Good work,,,very detailed...captivating....Alan Turing is such a Genius n a Revolutionary...

  • @adamaa39
    @adamaa39 Год назад

    42 is quickly becoming my favourite youtuber.

  • @grzegorznaskret4453
    @grzegorznaskret4453 Год назад +4

    Check who was Marian Rejewski 👆

  • @editorrbr2107
    @editorrbr2107 Год назад +9

    One of the most shameful moments of post-war Western history. The symbolism of Turing’s treatment is as awful as the treatment itself.

  • @laurabentzinger200
    @laurabentzinger200 Год назад

    Im so glad i decided to listen,thank you.

  • @officially_jb3018
    @officially_jb3018 Год назад

    I've been there. One of my favourite school trips. I loved it soo much and it's incredibly fascinating. I encourage everyone to go watch the movies about Bletchley and alan turing!