Jeremy Corbyn and Liz Kendall on Peston
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2023
- This clip contains the parts of the show where Jeremy Corbyn appears and speaks. On the 11th January 2023 Corbyn appeared on ITV's 'Peston'. The former Labour party leader currently sits as an independent MP after losing the party whip in 2020. On the show, he clashed with Labour MP Liz Kendall.
She is awful. I left the party over the way they treated Jeremy and I won’t vote for them until Starmer has gone.
Hell I’m leaving the U.K. because of this. Viva La Scottish independence. This whole sorry tale of the British establishment and media moving as one to prevent reform by whatever means possible demonstrates that the kind of change I want to see isn’t possible in the U.K. it’s time to accept that England is right wing and is going to stay like that, including under Starmer. Time to leave.
@@garyfletcher1910 it’s irrelevant what the SNP are although I’d say they are no worse in that regard than SLab and obviously better than the Tories on most issues. It’s independence that will be the break and the chance for change and that will have little to do with the SNP over time. In time there will be entirely new Scottish parties with Scottish priorities and with no connection to the nonsense that goes on in Westminster. “Save us £12bn” sigh! Who is “us” and currency issuers don’t save they issue or they don’t. Sterling is the U.K. currency therefore while Scotland is in the “union” it is actually for the use of every nation in it. What a shame we don’t get to spend what we need and on what, but if we did we wouldn’t need to leave. I assume you are an acolyte of Thatcher and believe that taxes pay for spending etc etc - so much to learn. You really shouldn’t believe everything you read about Scottish independence, the U.K. media is just as disingenuous about that as they were and are about Corbyn. They really will do what it takes to prevent any change whatsoever.
@@garyfletcher1910 I’m not sure where you read that Gary but it’s nonsense of course. Scotland doesn’t have its own currency yet and won’t until it leaves the U.K. and sets up its own central bank. The Scottish notes are Sterling not a Scottish currency and Scottish banks have to deposit Sterling reserves at the BoE in order to produce these. A fiat currency issuer literally cannot go “bust”
If anyone wants to know the actual scale of antisemitism in Labour under Corbyn, I would invite them to actually READ the EHRC report, instead of believing all the crap that's been written about it...
1. It takes bit of maths, but the figures given in the report refer to an incidence of, mainly unconfirmed, complaints of antisemitism of 0.4% (i.e. 4 in 1000) when related to the entire Labour membership at the time.
2. The report makes it clear that Corbyn himself was not involved in antisemitism.
3. The main emphasis of the report was on the way complaints were handled, with respect to the Leader's Office. However, they deliberately chose to ignore the leaked information from the earlier in-house Labour report, which revealed how an anti-Corbyn factor within the office's administration were secretly working to prevent these complaints being handled properly, as revealed by the recent Fordd inquiry into that leaked report.
4. The central claim that Labour had acted illegally centered on just TWO members, whose antisemitic activity occurred, without the knowledge of the leadership, but at a time when they were acting an official capacity for the party. When their activities were exposed, the party moved quickly to investigate and remedy the situation but not, apparently, quickly enough to avoid breaking the law by just not being alerted to the situation.
The Fordd report claims that 'both sides weaponised antisemitism', which makes it seem like blame was on both sides. However, one 'side' was a gang of rogue and rebellious traitors, determined to undermine the party and the other was the party itself. How the party leadership were supposed to have weaponised antisemitism is hard to visualise, as they were not attacking anyone and were unaware that they were under attack from within during most of the time period covered.
Personally, I don't know what Corbyn is meant to 'apologise' for. In fact the evidence shows that he's the one deserving of an apology.
Starmer said openly that anyone denying the scale of anti semitism in the party would be removed. Corbyn then immediately went on to deny the scale of it.
At best it shows how politically naive he is. At worse it shows levels of stupidity, arrogance, stubbornness. Starmer won't care about bringing him back, most likely bringing him back into the party is a vote loser more than a vote winner.
He only has himself to blame
@@jamescooke6032 He didn't 'deny the scale'. He made a perfectly reasonable statement about 'the scale'. 'The scale', as reported by the EHRC was a percentage of *complaints* compared to the size of the membership of 0.4%, which is *exemplary,* even including the ramping up of complaints attempted by Baroness Hodge and others within the party Right during the proceeding months - there were even RUclips videos egging Jewish members to make complaints in order to remove Corbyn- I saw a couple of them. In 2018 the same figure was 0.1%.
It was total complaints, so it included a massive number of *unconfirmed* complaints, again because members of the Labour Right had lodged hundreds in the previous few months, in order to try to cause a stink, and there had been no time to process them.
The EHRC report was grossly misrepresented by the media and by the PLP. The only meat on the bones of the whole issue regarded the party's handling of TWO cases; Ken Livingstone, who resigned before any action could be taken and Pam Bromley who was duly disciplined as soon as her offences were drawn to the party's attention.
The main basis of the accusations that Labour broke the law (and the EHRC felt the need to actually justify their unusual stance in the report) was that these individuals were working in an official capacity when the offences were committed and apparently the party was responsible, regardless of being unaware of their actions until informed. Any police force subjected to such scrutiny that had a single bent cop who went unnoticed until exposed would be considered entirely corrupt. It's ridiculous!
When you look at the media reports there's a lot of remarks like: "Oooh but it was just the tip of the iceberg..." - There was no fucking iceberg! Just a pile of right-wing bullshit piled on top of a report that revealed the opposite to what everyone claimed it did. I agree with Corbyn; any level of racism of any sort is intolerable, but making an inflammatory fuss about so few complaints was making a mountain out of a molehill, and what no one seems to want to acknowledge is that Corbyn was the first leader to recognise the existence of this minor problem and actually take steps to address it.
@@operationgoldfish8331 it doesn't really matter how many complaints there are. He should be intelligent enough to realise there would be a purge on the left following the horrific election results. When starmer said if you disagree with the numbers you're out, why disagree? Think how many times in your life you're told something you disagree with which you have to accept in your workplace.
As I said.. Arrogant, stubborn, politically ignorant.
@@jamescooke6032 "Horrific election results" caused almost entirely by the right's anti-party and anti-democratic activity.
The entire antisemitism scam was invented and perpetuated by the Labour right. It is they who are responsible for handing the Tories such a huge majority. At a time when the UK was under threat from the worst and most extreme right wing coup in living history, the Blairite remnant within the PLP decided to throw the nation to the wolves in order to stage their own petty coup within the party. They are guilty, guilty' guilty of EVERYTHING that the Tories have imposed upon this nation; because they valued their cushy business backhanders more than the lives of those who they professed to serve. They knew exactly what the Tories had in mind and went ahead anyway because they value their own privilege over the rest of us.
And antisemitism is much worse in Labour now, because a large proportion of the purge that You're so keen on is focused on left wing Jews.
Oh, and I tend to support the truth even in my workplace. Fortunately, I'm a nurse and we rely on evidence based practice, not convenient lies.
Spin won - but truth never really loses