How does observation reduce the strength and power of emotions and attachments? | J. Krishnamurti
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Brockwood Park 1979 - Question #4 from Question and Answer Meeting #1
'Emotions are strong. Attachments are strong. How does looking and seeing reduce the strength and power of these emotions?'
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Great help the jk foundation doing
Normally I like to read but with K one really has to experience. Which is funny because that's what he always said -- you have to experience it for yourselves! How apt.
So true..
Totally agree
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His passion carries child like intensity that captures your whole being
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Or maybe sisters?
This is probably the most important thing to realize. Otherwise one gets trapped in analysis and the hope that time changes me.
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This video is no less... I kept the playback Speed at .75 x , and it was even more intense...
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The Man of Absolute Observation
The absolute observingness of no man. 😊😘
Emotions and attachments ARE YOU, they aren’t separate from you. They are the “me”. When you realize that you are this attachment or you are this emotion, there is simply observation. And in this clear, conscious observation (without fear of loss of identity for lack of attachment/emotion), with no energy wasted, the attachment or emotion begins to dissolve.
“Test it, do it, and you will find out!”
well put. thanks for that view
Great
I have another angle at seeing this. When you see that you are this attachment, or this emotion, observation still happens, but it is the false-self that observes, the self that is emotionally attached. Meaning to say, if this is what happens to a person, that person is still spiritually blind. He has not yet realized his true-self, his true identity, or his essential nature.
It is the real self alone that is capable of observing without emotional attachments, because there is no me in there to do the observing, or no observer there that is easily attached emotionally. If there is no me, or no you in there, who will be attached? Therefore, there is only observation, and in that, one is aligned to reality.
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He is so beautiful... Full of intensity and compassion to make everyone understand truth and come out of misery/suffering. Much love to the beautiful soul...
Conclusion - OBSERVER IS OBSERVED
All the thoughts ,emotion ,feeling is not different from me but it's all me ...
so why fear ...i cant do anything which is me ........
All thanks to this channel and Krishnamurti sir ....
If observer is observed it cannot be you. I made the mistake of believing myself to be awareness of perceiving. When I looked for who i was I could throw everything away but awareness. When I found a more subtle beingness than that thru grace and clear understanding it changed everything and I experienced it as a shift in being. Although i intellectually knew I was not the body/mind ego structure I could not realize in experience that I was awareness alone. However when looking even closer I saw that awareness is functioning. Who or what is giving this power to awareness? Life Itself is that which animates awareness. I will not say I am the life power that is the animating power of being but I am in a way that light of life. However this life giving light is aware, it is life that is awarness self-animating thru its nature. This is still in duality however. When we have life we have something. Life is a thing, no matter how subtle, it is known to exist, it has existence. That life would be a masculine nature for it is penetrating and giving. Void would be the opposite of life, the lack of thingness. No subject, no object; void. These two combined create the reality experienced now. Only ever now for time is a concept, a thought. Movement doesn't exist. Stillness percieved to be in different locations moment to moment is called movement. There is only one moment, now. To have movement requires at least one more moment. This cannot be, the reality of one moment existing now is absolute. Therefore it is memory which becomes seen as movement. 2 nows: in one the form was here and in the other the form was there. So one is the stillness of the current moment and the other is the stillness remembered to be in a previous moment. However that moment stored in memory is only a thought. It cannot have reality because the reality has become that changed places but didn't actually because what is seen now is all that exists and so it never moved. Movement is the nature of life. Life moves into.a body and out of a body. No. Life is the vibration in void. Vibration is up and down. There can only be one not two. So if we split up and down we get middle or static stillness in void. Nothing ever happened is still not the entire truth that I thought it was. I can see that life had to be injected into the Void, something such as life cannot come from nowhere. The transcendent One or Logos or God or Brahman or Absolute or Self is the Godhead that conceived void and life by becoming 2, all.and none. This is reality now in my understanding
You said: "I could throw everything away but awareness."
What happens to this "awareness" when you are in deep (unconscious) sleep? What then happens to you when you sleep?
@@Krishnaeternal in deep sleep there are no objects, therefore there is no body/mind, and there is no sense of time. Awareness is there but consciousness is not. Consciousness is intelligence, a sort of mind. Awareness sees while consciousness knows. Without an "other" to be percieved, there is no self to know in relation to or universe either. Awareness is aware of timeless nothingness in deep sleep. In dreams the mind or consciousness is still somewhat active and so we have a body/mind and universe. It's just that in dreams the laws of physics don't apply as they do here. Time sort of exists in the dream state also. In deep sleep time is irrelevant. You fall asleep and then ur waking up. That is because u are conscious of time in waking but because there is no "other" in deep sleep there is no time. Time is relative to another thing changing /moving. Without any "things " there is no time.
@@Krishnaeternal mind creates the thought I Am, this is the first thought that precludes all thoughts even when unconsciously thought we assume that we are. I am is a consequence of consciousness becoming self-conscious. It thinks therefore it is. As soon as the I am was thought, the body and all of "creation" appeared with It. It wasn't created, it is an appearance within consciousness.
@@Krishnaeternalan insight I had about movement recently was really pretty cool. Movement doesn't exist! Think of this. There is only the present moment, always, and so past and future don't actually exist. No one ever experienced a past or a future. Even in time travel these places could only be experienced in the state of now. So having only this singular moment something cannot said to move, it is only stillness. Like a flash photograph. Movement is the perception of two nows. One where the thing was in one state of stillness and another where it has seemingly moved to another stillness. Since 2 nows can't possibly exist, one is this moment and the other now is from memory. So movement is seeing stillness now while remembering the object to have been in another place, position. Reality is far more strange than as taken by most. I could expound upon so many things that make reality unreal and yet seemingly real. There are many such occurrences which when truly looked at, aren't as they seem. I can explain karma and how even it isn't real. We make it real by identifying with the doer of action and so we accrue the karma of our doings. If we place our identity ad the seer and knower we are not binding any karma anymore and become liberated from the cycle of rebirth
Dear lord, wow! I can not say anything else. This is gold
Such a lovely human being. I love that whenever he talks about observering he smiles subtly .
Wow, not only an extraordinarily intelligent verbal expression, but there were a couple of times in this that I would wander a bit and right at that moment he would step out of his train of thought to attempt bringing the audience back in to attention; it is as if I were there. Hopefully we can try this level, this state, of self-observation.
Attention is a beautiful flame 🔥
True.. mee too felt the same...he was bringing me back to attention, as I was just drifting
He is one of rarest persons who has such a great observation. He is indeed true that observing oneself completely can truly transform one into true self that one really is.
But doing this needs great concentration and practice.
There is such kindness and strength in his speeches. A willingness to share is understanding. It’s incredible!
I am very grateful for be able to see and hear from that great master. Such an unbelievable clarity in his way to talk that Iam amazed. I wish I could live then to sit with and hear him face to face❤️
The most impactful and clear explanation of Krishnamurti's on the topic of the observer is the observed, finally feel like it makes more sense than just having a crude idea of it. Brilliant...
Krishnamurti was a great mind observer. He was always engaged in analysing his diverse dimensions and functioning of the mind. He wanted to free himself from all kinds of ignorance and false identities. His approach was new and rational.He invented himself and attracted a new line of followers.
Thank you for the gift of this video. Feeling blessed to be able to witness him in full, passionate display without needing to have traveled as far as his audience did. Feeling blessed indeed.
Fools, stones, listen you were blessed to be there.
What a kind person he is totally in union with his gathering and really cares about providing clarity to the question just listening to JK is a mindfulness meditation 🧘♀️ ❤
The Man of Absolute Awareness
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What a wonderful man! Few can understand that power requires fear.
This one was the best!!! This man is pro of mind man.. nobody explains like this one🙏🙌 Explaining and making the dumb ppl understand takes a lot and lot of work.
True
" it is only the people who do not see the full implication of attachment that are attached "
This video explains the concept of non-duality in such a lucid way.. Thank you Sir and the uploader.
He was the first writer that took me beyond myself as a teen. Now I'm old and he is the most honest person I've met. Vernon Howard is another mystic but tougher. Beyond thought and time in the now love unites all.
Thank you Mr Krishnamurti, after a long time i am starting to understand the deep reason why you talk about all this, the great imperativness of it, the factuality of everything.
He should be required listening in every elementary school on earth.
Because that´s a very good way of putting somebody off?
Only by living simply, attentively and ego-lessly in NOW can we live the Omnipresence, omniscience, pathless and timeless Truth! Paradoxical! Thanks K and friends.
You can drop Simply and Egolessly because these are fruits if living attentively. Attention or Observation is the ultimate Way and Silence is the ultimate Truth.
HE SHOWN THE WAY TO US WITH HIS LIFETIME SACRIFICE TO IT, THANKS JK,
This man is full of integrity, there is no question of deceiving his audience when he speaks, he is the truth, a complete man
That's an extraordinary difference.
Sir,....after 6 months, I understood
Your words
"OBSERVER IS THE observent "
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Very similar conclusion to Sartre's transcendence of the ego... Despite the hyper-intellectualized method of the former.....
What a gift. I love watching JK’s videos.
Very very thankful to all
When there is a lack of attention or awareness= attachement...true so❤❤❤. Awsome clear light here❤.
Thx 4 the uploud.
Marvelous talk. I am most grateful to you for uploading it.
He is great
Ultimate
One of the most profound things I’ve ever heard. Possibly my favourite video piece from this great man. Needs to be listened to a few times to get the full implications of it.
For me this crystallises the observer is the observed concept. Normally we are guilty of the little me observing our thoughts and making judgements on them, believing these thoughts are separate from us but no they are us. So observing the little me and our thoughts in their entirety is the pure observation JK talks about. This also then leads to choiceless awareness; without this apparent duality between the observer and the observed, the little me and the thoughts that the little me feels separate to there is no need to have this internal dialogue or the feeling that something needs to be changed, because it just is.
Great explanation 👌
Be an Observer of your thoughts.....
Mindfulness breathing and recognizing the strong emotions and then breathing out embrace this strong emotions.
Don't do anything because you will just create conflict and won't solve it, in fact you will make it stronger. Just observe it, no judgement. I'm pretty sure he means that no matter how you feel about whatever you observing, the fact of observing will prevail over sorrow because you have removed all judgements, images and ideas.
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Definitely a Realized Being
So thankful for this teachings
Very helpful
So much love ❤️
And this is the end of conflict...thank you so much ...
humanity needed 100 yrs almost to grasp his wisdom :)))
Thank you so much for the gift of these videos by Krishnamurti 🙏
Thank you very much.
WOW ,Thank you .
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Those who upload this video -I can not thank you enough
wow..so much clarity ..so much passion.
Thank you for letting us participate in the insights of this so powerful human being. He is a peacemaker, no doubt, with an aura that is mind-blowing.
Inwardly Joy awarness big space to to stay! The words can not descrive the deepness energy, the perseverance of this Man. You can only percieve all that.
S.
Jiddu Krishanmurty sir tries to explain that observation is all we have.
But when you're in that state of observation, without any attachments or emotions, of course there's no grief, anxiety, sadness, yet there's also no joy, no happiness, no contentment. It now brings up the question wether you want that, wether you want to experience nothing at all except the observation. I wish he was still alive so i could ask him about that, as that is my main problem about it.
You take for granted that by observing, you let go of negativity, but also those good things, like joy, pleasure... But all this is what forms the illusion of perception. Since what we are talking about is unknown, it is scary. But he is speaking of the liberation of the mind, of a clear mind without conditioning, thus free. One can only have an understanding of this by practicing the observation of every thought, without identifying with them. This is something that goes against what we usually do, so little by little.
He is very insightful. Love listening to him
It's well known in the sport that most of us surfers easily experience pure, absolute thoughtlessness while riding a wave . The idea that there is simply too much " in the now" observation going on to think of the past or future worries fits pretty good.
You seem quite attached to surfing and being a surfer :)
He is correct.
No words for such intelligent and compassion.
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I understood this after almost 6 months.
I was brought here... With so much of confusion and now I am aware... Tq k'ji
I love him but I'm strongly aware of this emotion, :)
Wonderful explanation. He really takes the time to make his point clear. Thank you
wow, thank you.
Thank you JK foundations
Incredible indeed
You could demonstrate and explain later to avoid any harm to you by talking during demonstration.
You are so precious for the world
Of a while it's tedious and obscure, but then suddenly the depth and directness of what he's saying starts to penetrate.
Very true
The master of intellact .. teacher.. u awaken me.. this is a deep secret
This observation functions fully when done on the basis of immense love (and intelligence) , as this facilitates the slow melting of the "me". 🙏
Thank You! 💜
watching the machinery at work as it engages experience.
Habit energy is the director!
Simply brilliant sir, 🙏🙏🙏
Great!
Very profound .
I realise from listening to his videos that a question is more relevant. The answer may not need to be answered straight away. But the question open ended helps you stop jumping to an answer. Just wait. See how you feel. It's very important as a woman particularly NOT TO KEEP GOSSIPING and talking to others.
Love the master 🙏❤
the greatest man i ever knew of.
Attachment is the root of every problem so detachment is good always ❤with giving compassionate to all🧘♀️
Great !!
My favourite 😍😍😍
Very profound . Amazing insight !!
Great vedio
Omgg so simple and so clear 🙏
Wow, What an explanation.
lovely❤️
Oho sir your words directly instantly helps to reach to oneself without any effort or process..
Master , perfection, ,,,,thank you sir,
If one is good Vipassana meditator( taught by SN Goenka), one can understand clearly what this great being talking about.
Good Vipassana meditator experiences this all things very deeply, clearly and develops wisdom within.
Let us not mix K with anybody else. Can't we approach him without comparing him with anybody else?
@@prasadmulupuri8714 Ooh no, no my intention wasn't mix anything into K's teaching. I agree that teaching must remain in it's pure form. If you feel that my comment will cause impure K's teaching, I will delete it. ruclips.net/video/MpsAMWIxdv0/видео.html
Vipassana is an observation of attachment and sensations on the body to purify the mind.