Pull rates need to be closer to paradox rift. I can handle a little worse but 2 booster boxes for an SIR seems low. In the grand scheme of things 72 packs isn't a ton but for someone opening packs looking for those cards it's a huge investment. I understand the wow factor of pulling a great card but the same people opening 72 packs are the same people willing to skip pack opening and just buy the single. The wow factor that would be had by a casual opener of packs would be rare as most probably dont open at least 72 packs in a set. It'll be interesting to see how the pull rate change over the coming years.
Pokémon company US is greedy making it cost nearly $5,000 to crack a master set the old fashioned way. A sub-100 card set shouldn’t cost that much to complete a Master set. The direction they are going is horrible. Think I’ll be abandoning the collecting side of the hobby and just doing normal copy playsets from now on for competitive only.
Same thoughts here. I enjoyed maxing out my lost box deck and I am happy that the prices are not overwhelming high. But going forward base rarity is the way to go with the hobby being so expensive.
Same. Absolute trash from the Company. Extreme mass production these days too, a new set every month it feels like. What a joke. I went over to Japanese cards and its just way more fun and cheaper way to collect. Smaller sets, higher quality on the cards ++++
It irks me that Pokemon lowered the hit rates and it pushes me away from buying packs, which then causes single prices to skyrocket if no one opens these packs 😢
It’s a catch 22. If the pull rates are easier , then the hit cards are everywhere and people (in general) don’t want to open the packs as much If the pull rates are harder, then people like yourself say it’s too hard to pull the hits and they don’t want to open packs as much. Neither of those is great and it’s difficult to find a happy medium. Personally I prefer difficult pull rates because it makes the chase cards truly feel special when you hit one. When you have a set like Obsidian Flames it doesn’t even feel great when you pull the best cards because they are so common.
I still wish pullrates were the way they were during Scarlet and Violet base, Paldea Evolved, Obsidian etc. it made me open more packs cause I was guaranteed a SIR (well, pretty much) now I take it very easy and just buy singles. So it actually stopped my sales of packs lol
@chriscsongor2571 I want harder pull rates than again I put maybe 6-700 into pulls over past few series and my best pull was cassiopeia. Prob should just brought a greninja an that $30 pack for cass
@@chriscsongor2571 I play the TCG. My argument is that Obsidian flames only has 3-4 cards that are actually playable in the TCG and look at the top prices for Obsidian flames. It's the meta cards such as charizard ex and pidgeot ex which are the top cards in the TCG. I can also say how the art in obsidian flames are bad and imagine pulling the Eiscue or Revavroom EX alternate art. I guarantee you that you wouldn't be happy compared to getting the charizard. Shrouded fable has the opposite problem where 1/4 of the entire set are playable and has good art with the addition of hard pull rates cause prices to skyrocket. I don't prefer difficult pull rates and I can care less if the card collectors/investors don't like the set because the cards are cheaper.
1000 packs for 99 cards! Absolute madness. Mass pollution to the earth as well with the tons of plastic that comes with it. Corporate greed at its worst.
I didnt plan on buying much product as I'm waiting for a better set. A few collection boxes and other products for the promos and I'm onto the next. Lower hit rates can mean more expensive cards in the set.
Bro I spent $120ish bucks on various products (greninja box, kingdra box, 3 pack blisters, and mini tins) and all I got was 3 regular ex cards and 1 illustration rare. Pull rates have been an absolute joke
Thanks Danny for the pull rate data! This information is always great to have a hunch about before buying products from a set. I really hope they stop making pull rates worse and start heading back towards better pull rates. Because I love collecting pokemon cards but when it starts to feel like I can't get any hits. Opening packs becomes so many times less fun.
The fact that some cards are 1 in 1000 is horrible. While it is cool and makes cards rare, the chances of regular people and not poketubers getting it out of a pack is so low it just discourages us from buying it.
I’ve had great luck with this set! I bought 11 packs total between collection boxes and a tin. I pulled the Persian illustration rare, the zorua illustration rare, Janine’s Secret Art ultra rare, colorless’s tenacity ultra rare , fezandipiti ex double rare, and the revaroom ex double rare. I really only wanted the Persian illustration rare from this set so I’m pretty happy with my pull rates so far!
Holy crap! You opened 1,000 packs that came from the collection boxes? That must’ve been a pain in the butt! But plus side, the SIR promos are a win!!!!!!
I like the idea of pull rates varying from set to set, where on set has higher pull rates (obsidian flames) and others have lower pull rates (most recent sets). I hope there to be some sets with a happy medium as well.
Good to see this data being pretty much identical to TWM/TEF in terms of pull rates. This is what I came up with for SFB/TWM/TEF: RR - ~1/7.5 ACE - ~1/18 UR - ~1/15 IR - ~1/12.5 SIR - ~1/75 HR - ~1/125 Hyper Rare may be 1/150, but the thought process behind these numbers is that PCI will try to have easy numbers to work with so that in larger quantities it will be a whole number that is (likely) easily divisible. It's entirely possible that the lower rarities are more generous at the ~1/6 ratio, but it seems cleaner to have the rarities be nested inside each other for each slot. Either way, it means the HRs will still be tough, but the SIRs should be fairly manageable to pull compared to TWM! I'm glad they didn't change the pull rates for Illustration Rares... You definitely can get 2 IRs as my release day TWM booster box only had 2, but came with a gold
The brutal pull rates just confirmed to me that skipping this set is the best move possible. Very poor set and ludicrous pull rates just makes it worse. It’s not fun to spend so much money on special set packs, yet get no pulls whatsoever. Special sets should have boosted pull rates.
Yup CZ is better imho also the Sam’s club exclusive collection coming out is a better deal per pack than anything S&V plus cards are better and better pull rates
Shrowded Fable was already and instant, "pass" for me. I think this is the first time where I have seen a set have ZERO cards I have interest in. Bad pull rates just seals the deal.
This is 100% a set that I personally would recommend skipping. This I absolutely see not selling a lot, and will be on substantial discounts around the holiday season. Anyone that has the patience should definitely wait until those heavy discounts pop up. I’m personally skipping everything about this set except for a sealed kingdra and greninja box for my sealed collection. Maybe a sealed Pokemon center ETB too, still debating on that 60 bucks
Love these new set stat vids! It's a bit unfortunate to hear the numbers but it was expected at this point. Congrats on completing that master set, Danny! For a set sp small, I bet it was frustrating. I got like that with PoGo. I still haven't pulled the hyper/rainbow Mewtwo, haha.
Buying a house so now I gotta keep my budget tight. Buying singles from now on. Really appreciate videos showing pull rates. Thank for everything you do Danny!
@@Vivify29 Yeah that's nuts. I saw a video of a guy pulling the cyber hacker illustrator rare on his one and only box. At least I got it from gamestop so they gave me a world championship pikachu promo as well
Thanks Danny! I think I’m definitely going to wait for shrouded fable. Gotta say, I LOVE the SIR Cassiopeia. Love the houndoom, other than that, I think I’m gonna pass on the set for now 🤷🏻♂️
If the pulls rate change when the etb box came out is going to be a lot to think because each set came out is a lot different product's so let see what happens 😮
I just bought a case of the premium collection boxes off TCGplayer for 177 after shipping, that's all I plan on opening for this set. The greninja and kingdra promos are the o ly cards i want really 😅
Got both Greninja and Kingdra. Pulled 2 revaroom and a okidogi ex. Not a single stretcher or dusknoir... plenty of reverse energy.😅 kinda bummed at the pull rates. I do love the promo artwork.
I wanna 100% this set but them delaying thr effing Etbs messed me up and I'm not opening that many collection boxes to get a full Shrouded Fable Set I'll Just Hope I Win Before I Start Buying Cards
My first opening of Shrouded Fable was like opening a set like Fusion Strike. Opened 34 packs, got 1 Fezandipidi ex, 1 Pachurant full art, 2 Kingdra ex's and 4 Monkidori ex's!! Luckily I got saved by 1 card, the Cassiopeia SIR🤯. But not 1 illustration rare out of 34 packs. So in my experience, by FAR the worst pull rates of all the swsh & sv specialty sets...except maybe champion's path...
Guess you will have to open 1000 more when the etb’s and booster bundles arrive to compare the hit rates. Jk. Opening over 1000 packs to master this set is nuts honestly. But doing the comparison video would be interesting to see. I love that you do these breakdowns. It’s interesting to see if my pulls fall within the parameters.
Commenting before I watch. Since watching your last shrouded fable opening I pulled the zorua second pack, I had to laugh. The rest of my pulls kinda sucked so I’m here for validation
I had 5 ex hits out of 10 packs from 2 boxes but three of those hits were kingdra ex. Literally pulled 3 kingdea ex double rares in 3 straight packs. Batching is gonna be an issue for sure!
I treated myself to one kingdra box and one grininja box as a early birthday present to myself, (it’s the 11th) & in the kingdra box I pulled Cassiopeia full art card in my second to last pack!! I was so shook and was having such a hard day too 🥹 I was opening packs just looking for the regular eevee card lmaoo
I really don't like how they are handling pull rates. It's impossible to get close to a good amount of hits or even a master set for MOST casual, young and average tcg players and collectors.
Lol, in my sss I was thinking the pull rates were much better. In the 10 packs that I opened from the kingdra/Greninja special boxes, I got 2 IRs, 3 URs, 3 DRs and an ACE spec. Missed the SIR but that was expected. So I guess I got lucky 😂
im glad hyper rares are harder to get, it always feels bad getting a trainer or energy gold card. they should be more common then ultra rare imo even if you want to bling ur deck out your not going to pull 4 of them anyways and have to buy them.
Can't confirm for all regions but in the UK Game have ETBs i got one nothing big in the hits 4 regular ex(2 munkidori 1 revavroom 1 fezandipiti) 3 reverse energy (2 lightning 1 water)
Yes I agree the company greed is real... They thinking making pulls hard means people will buy more chase the hits and complete sets. I think they flip and flop back and forth with bad pull rates and good pull rates per set.
Ripped my Kingdra EX box while watching, and pulled the Dusclops IR, the only things I want out of this set are the Duskull Evo line and the Kingdra/Greninja promos 😂 I promised my wife she could open some packs too, so I left the Greninja box for her, so there's potential for something else to come
I opened up a kongdra as well as greninja box...got 2 regular monkidory ex cards...that's it. My fiance opened the same boxes and pulled 3 special illustration rares. Guess I'm already done opening shrouded fable packs. At least the promos were cool...😢
Idk if batching is a problem I opened 1 of every product and pulled a kingdra ex in the blister and kingambit box, a fezandipiti ex full art in the kingdra ex and greninja ex box and then another fezandipiti ex full art alongside a regular one in the etb.
I think its harder to pull because the set is a lot smaller than other S&V sets, also seeing a lot of comparisons against booster box sets? This is a holiday set at the end of the day it should only be conpared to other holiday/special sets Shrouded Fable though is 100% the Champions path of S&V era
The pull rates on this set are so broken so far, it's ridiculous. For a special set with very few cards actually in this set, it shouldn't take 300 packs to pull most full arts, or 1000 packs to get 1 Cassiopeia. There are definitely batching issues already, so lets hope this gets fixed by the time the other products finally release, or no one is going to buy these products and just wait for Steller Crown instead.
I opened 14 packs and only got 2 Munkidori EX which hurt. From what I've been seeing the hits are very batched with people either getting great pull rates or terrible as opposed to more evenly distributed. Thanks for the info as always!
So you FEEL LIKE Shrouded Fable and Stellar Crown make up one giant set since Fable the specialty set is small. DOES that mean that you FEEL like Obsidian Flames and 151 were 1 giant set as they too were small and a month apart?!?! 🤔🤔🤔 why can’t Fable be a stand alone specialty set…small, like all the other specialty sets?!? Hidden Fates, 151, PoGo, etc
I opened 10 mini tins , 20 packs, pulls:1 sar ,2 full art, 5 illustration rares, 6 ex, 2 ace spec. Only 4 packs that were duds!!Maybe buy mini tins 👍🏻 got my chase (Cassiopeia sar) and no need to buy more 🎉🎉🎉. Back to twilight to chase the evee
Got 10/27 pack with hits, nothing great. Best thing I got was the Munkidori IR and 2 Tapu. I think I got the better end but still a brutal pull rate for the better rarity cards
Definitely just going to stick with buying singles that I like for this set. The selling point for special sets is usually the theme and pull rates, but this set's just not it for me.
Pull rates need to be closer to paradox rift. I can handle a little worse but 2 booster boxes for an SIR seems low. In the grand scheme of things 72 packs isn't a ton but for someone opening packs looking for those cards it's a huge investment. I understand the wow factor of pulling a great card but the same people opening 72 packs are the same people willing to skip pack opening and just buy the single. The wow factor that would be had by a casual opener of packs would be rare as most probably dont open at least 72 packs in a set. It'll be interesting to see how the pull rate change over the coming years.
Pokémon company US is greedy making it cost nearly $5,000 to crack a master set the old fashioned way. A sub-100 card set shouldn’t cost that much to complete a Master set.
The direction they are going is horrible. Think I’ll be abandoning the collecting side of the hobby and just doing normal copy playsets from now on for competitive only.
Same thoughts here. I enjoyed maxing out my lost box deck and I am happy that the prices are not overwhelming high. But going forward base rarity is the way to go with the hobby being so expensive.
Until crown zenith 2.0 comes out and they give something to everybody like they always do.
@@LavaDude They can strike a balance. SIRs should be 1 per 1.5 boxes and HR’s 1 per 3 boxes. The way it is now…it’s just silly.
Same. Absolute trash from the Company. Extreme mass production these days too, a new set every month it feels like. What a joke. I went over to Japanese cards and its just way more fun and cheaper way to collect. Smaller sets, higher quality on the cards ++++
ppl were crying about the greninja and kingdra being free . now they are crying its too hard. you cant plz mfrs in this space I swear.
It irks me that Pokemon lowered the hit rates and it pushes me away from buying packs, which then causes single prices to skyrocket if no one opens these packs 😢
It’s a catch 22. If the pull rates are easier , then the hit cards are everywhere and people (in general) don’t want to open the packs as much
If the pull rates are harder, then people like yourself say it’s too hard to pull the hits and they don’t want to open packs as much.
Neither of those is great and it’s difficult to find a happy medium. Personally I prefer difficult pull rates because it makes the chase cards truly feel special when you hit one. When you have a set like Obsidian Flames it doesn’t even feel great when you pull the best cards because they are so common.
I still wish pullrates were the way they were during Scarlet and Violet base, Paldea Evolved, Obsidian etc. it made me open more packs cause I was guaranteed a SIR (well, pretty much) now I take it very easy and just buy singles. So it actually stopped my sales of packs lol
Blame the people complaining the ez pull rates, it was good till paradox and now people complain about harder pull rates 😅
@chriscsongor2571 I want harder pull rates than again I put maybe 6-700 into pulls over past few series and my best pull was cassiopeia. Prob should just brought a greninja an that $30 pack for cass
@@chriscsongor2571 I play the TCG. My argument is that Obsidian flames only has 3-4 cards that are actually playable in the TCG and look at the top prices for Obsidian flames. It's the meta cards such as charizard ex and pidgeot ex which are the top cards in the TCG.
I can also say how the art in obsidian flames are bad and imagine pulling the Eiscue or Revavroom EX alternate art. I guarantee you that you wouldn't be happy compared to getting the charizard.
Shrouded fable has the opposite problem where 1/4 of the entire set are playable and has good art with the addition of hard pull rates cause prices to skyrocket. I don't prefer difficult pull rates and I can care less if the card collectors/investors don't like the set because the cards are cheaper.
1000 packs is insane tbh that's nutty
1000 packs for 99 cards! Absolute madness. Mass pollution to the earth as well with the tons of plastic that comes with it. Corporate greed at its worst.
@@finalhearts676 The waste from Pokemon cards is the least of this planet's worries. It's such a small footprint compared to industrial giants.
I didnt plan on buying much product as I'm waiting for a better set. A few collection boxes and other products for the promos and I'm onto the next.
Lower hit rates can mean more expensive cards in the set.
Bro I spent $120ish bucks on various products (greninja box, kingdra box, 3 pack blisters, and mini tins) and all I got was 3 regular ex cards and 1 illustration rare. Pull rates have been an absolute joke
Oof, I bought a random kingambit box this morning and got the same as you. Sorry man
I opened the same amount of product, all I got was 2 normal ex (duplicates) and 2 of those holoish energy. 😅
Ooof it's almost like this is a randomized game meant to have collectibles
I opened 18 packs, started with 5 hits in a row lol ended with 10 hits and 3 holo energies. Pull rates seem the same..
I was able to pull the Cassiopeia from the kingdra one today
How can pokemon expect kids to finish a set with so many cards and hard pull rates?? Pocket money won't cut it anymore...😮
Thanks Danny for the pull rate data! This information is always great to have a hunch about before buying products from a set.
I really hope they stop making pull rates worse and start heading back towards better pull rates. Because I love collecting pokemon cards but when it starts to feel like I can't get any hits. Opening packs becomes so many times less fun.
The fact that some cards are 1 in 1000 is horrible. While it is cool and makes cards rare, the chances of regular people and not poketubers getting it out of a pack is so low it just discourages us from buying it.
Thanks for the great information as always! It was awesome meeting you at Card Party 🙌
I’ve had great luck with this set! I bought 11 packs total between collection boxes and a tin. I pulled the Persian illustration rare, the zorua illustration rare, Janine’s Secret Art ultra rare, colorless’s tenacity ultra rare , fezandipiti ex double rare, and the revaroom ex double rare. I really only wanted the Persian illustration rare from this set so I’m pretty happy with my pull rates so far!
I am second guessing on putting this set together!😮
Interesting. Thanks for the work and info Danny! Pull rates are better than I had anticipated with the way some people were talking about it.
Holy crap! You opened 1,000 packs that came from the collection boxes? That must’ve been a pain in the butt!
But plus side, the SIR promos are a win!!!!!!
I like the idea of pull rates varying from set to set, where on set has higher pull rates (obsidian flames) and others have lower pull rates (most recent sets). I hope there to be some sets with a happy medium as well.
Appreciate the time and effort making this video! 🙏🏼
Good to see this data being pretty much identical to TWM/TEF in terms of pull rates. This is what I came up with for SFB/TWM/TEF:
RR - ~1/7.5
ACE - ~1/18
UR - ~1/15
IR - ~1/12.5
SIR - ~1/75
HR - ~1/125
Hyper Rare may be 1/150, but the thought process behind these numbers is that PCI will try to have easy numbers to work with so that in larger quantities it will be a whole number that is (likely) easily divisible. It's entirely possible that the lower rarities are more generous at the ~1/6 ratio, but it seems cleaner to have the rarities be nested inside each other for each slot. Either way, it means the HRs will still be tough, but the SIRs should be fairly manageable to pull compared to TWM! I'm glad they didn't change the pull rates for Illustration Rares... You definitely can get 2 IRs as my release day TWM booster box only had 2, but came with a gold
Thank you danny for keeping the intro a little shorter this time around 😩
Thanks for the data. This will help me decide how deep I want to go with this set.
The brutal pull rates just confirmed to me that skipping this set is the best move possible. Very poor set and ludicrous pull rates just makes it worse. It’s not fun to spend so much money on special set packs, yet get no pulls whatsoever. Special sets should have boosted pull rates.
Preach
Just get the greninja and kingdra box and call it there. That's my plan atm.
I bought all three if the boxes and a mini tin and got a whole whopping 1 full art trainer. Guess I’ll just be buying the ones I want and skipping
I got the promos (and the zoroark tin because I love zoroark) and stopped.
So what you're saying is....
Buy more crown zenith.
Yup CZ is better imho also the Sam’s club exclusive collection coming out is a better deal per pack than anything S&V plus cards are better and better pull rates
My preorders came in today! Ready to rip some packs. Hope to get some slappin’ hits
prepare to be majorly disappointed unless you will be opening about 300 packs
Shrowded Fable was already and instant, "pass" for me. I think this is the first time where I have seen a set have ZERO cards I have interest in. Bad pull rates just seals the deal.
Thank you for sharing content like this. It’s really insightful and helps me decide on what singles to chase 😊
This is 100% a set that I personally would recommend skipping. This I absolutely see not selling a lot, and will be on substantial discounts around the holiday season. Anyone that has the patience should definitely wait until those heavy discounts pop up. I’m personally skipping everything about this set except for a sealed kingdra and greninja box for my sealed collection. Maybe a sealed Pokemon center ETB too, still debating on that 60 bucks
Love these new set stat vids! It's a bit unfortunate to hear the numbers but it was expected at this point.
Congrats on completing that master set, Danny! For a set sp small, I bet it was frustrating. I got like that with PoGo. I still haven't pulled the hyper/rainbow Mewtwo, haha.
Idk man I got 6 packs and got 2 gold vessels and a gold dark energy
I appreciate you bringing us the data!
Always appreciate it Danny!
Buying the promos and considering them part of twilight. Not even considering searching this round
Thank you for your content I've learned so much about the market, the cards , and the pokemon company. keep doing what you do !
Buying a house so now I gotta keep my budget tight. Buying singles from now on. Really appreciate videos showing pull rates. Thank for everything you do Danny!
I opened one of the Kingdra boxes with 5 packs. $30. Not a single pull. One normal ex, that was literally it. No illustrations, nothing.
BRO, SO DID I! EXCEPT I DIDN'T EVEN GET AN EX!!! I GOT 3 HAXORUS RARES AS MY HIGHLIGHT OF MY 30 BUCKS!
@@Vivify29 Yeah that's nuts. I saw a video of a guy pulling the cyber hacker illustrator rare on his one and only box. At least I got it from gamestop so they gave me a world championship pikachu promo as well
I just opened a pack and got an acespec dangerous laser and a special illustration rare okidogi ex. Are doubles back?
Thanks Danny! I think I’m definitely going to wait for shrouded fable. Gotta say, I LOVE the SIR Cassiopeia. Love the houndoom, other than that, I think I’m gonna pass on the set for now 🤷🏻♂️
If the pulls rate change when the etb box came out is going to be a lot to think because each set came out is a lot different product's so let see what happens 😮
Must of been a long night..lol awesome man!
I just bought a case of the premium collection boxes off TCGplayer for 177 after shipping, that's all I plan on opening for this set. The greninja and kingdra promos are the o ly cards i want really 😅
where can you customize a binder? I really like the artwork on the cover of his card binder
Awesome video! Thank you!!
1 regular ex (kingdra) on 14 packs. Best pulls were the promo cards... I think it's the time I just by the cards I want/need...
I love looking at the data. I never thought it was this tough for gold and SIRs. Hopefully gold can hold more value.
Got both Greninja and Kingdra. Pulled 2 revaroom and a okidogi ex. Not a single stretcher or dusknoir... plenty of reverse energy.😅 kinda bummed at the pull rates. I do love the promo artwork.
best shrouded fable deck is 4.okidogi ex 2.fezandipiti ex 2.pescharunt ex 1.pescharunt 2.brute bonnet twm 1.zubat shf 1.crobat shf 1.radiant greninja 13.dark energy 4.janines secret art 2.atticus 2.professors research 2.boss orders 4.dark patch 1.heros cape 3.perilous jungle 4. binding mochi 4.nest ball 2.ultra ball 1.rare candy 4.arven 1. canceling cologne
You pointed it out and now i can't stop looking at it.
Would love to have the set ! don' have any pokemon card since i was a kid ! would love to go back in but i dont have the money for that lobby for now
Great data as always Danny!
I wanna 100% this set but them delaying thr effing Etbs messed me up and I'm not opening that many collection boxes to get a full Shrouded Fable Set I'll Just Hope I Win Before I Start Buying Cards
My first opening of Shrouded Fable was like opening a set like Fusion Strike. Opened 34 packs, got 1 Fezandipidi ex, 1 Pachurant full art, 2 Kingdra ex's and 4 Monkidori ex's!! Luckily I got saved by 1 card, the Cassiopeia SIR🤯. But not 1 illustration rare out of 34 packs. So in my experience, by FAR the worst pull rates of all the swsh & sv specialty sets...except maybe champion's path...
Guess you will have to open 1000 more when the etb’s and booster bundles arrive to compare the hit rates. Jk. Opening over 1000 packs to master this set is nuts honestly. But doing the comparison video would be interesting to see. I love that you do these breakdowns. It’s interesting to see if my pulls fall within the parameters.
Im 20-25 packs in. Have pulled all the heavy hitters. I call BS on people saying bad hit rate. This isn't sliver tempest or fusion strike bad
Commenting before I watch. Since watching your last shrouded fable opening I pulled the zorua second pack, I had to laugh. The rest of my pulls kinda sucked so I’m here for validation
I can understand bad pull rates for normal sets. But shrouded fable is a specialty set. The hit rate should be similar to 151 or Crown Zenith.
thank you very much for this super awsome video, and all the hard work you put in to it. i am happy you are a content creator
I had 5 ex hits out of 10 packs from 2 boxes but three of those hits were kingdra ex. Literally pulled 3 kingdea ex double rares in 3 straight packs. Batching is gonna be an issue for sure!
Just got the Duskull IR and Colreess's Tenacity SIR in a Kingdra box 🤙
Finding it harder and harder to support stores with buying sealed products with pull rates as is.
Thank you past Danny for the pull rate data. Is future Danny going to take ETBs pull rates into account later?
I treated myself to one kingdra box and one grininja box as a early birthday present to myself, (it’s the 11th) & in the kingdra box I pulled Cassiopeia full art card in my second to last pack!! I was so shook and was having such a hard day too 🥹 I was opening packs just looking for the regular eevee card lmaoo
It was also the very last kingdra box at my target, there was like 8+ grininja boxes
I really don't like how they are handling pull rates. It's impossible to get close to a good amount of hits or even a master set for MOST casual, young and average tcg players and collectors.
Had to smile today when I got Zorua IR out of my first pack
Lol, in my sss I was thinking the pull rates were much better. In the 10 packs that I opened from the kingdra/Greninja special boxes, I got 2 IRs, 3 URs, 3 DRs and an ACE spec. Missed the SIR but that was expected. So I guess I got lucky 😂
Picked up a few boxes today 20 packs total. Got SIR cassiopeia, all 3 ace specs, 1 IR and 2 EX.
Where did you get that sick custom binder? does it only have slots for a master set or does it have extra ones?
im glad hyper rares are harder to get, it always feels bad getting a trainer or energy gold card. they should be more common then ultra rare imo
even if you want to bling ur deck out your not going to pull 4 of them anyways and have to buy them.
Thats why i buy singles. I got tires of spending hundreds to chase a particular card.
Thank you for the pull raye info really appreciated
Issue is a lot of "investors" look for harder pull rate and early SV sets do not sell well. Here we go! I hate the current pull rate for SIR 😢
Can't confirm for all regions but in the UK Game have ETBs i got one nothing big in the hits 4 regular ex(2 munkidori 1 revavroom 1 fezandipiti) 3 reverse energy (2 lightning 1 water)
Yes I agree the company greed is real... They thinking making pulls hard means people will buy more chase the hits and complete sets. I think they flip and flop back and forth with bad pull rates and good pull rates per set.
Ripped my Kingdra EX box while watching, and pulled the Dusclops IR, the only things I want out of this set are the Duskull Evo line and the Kingdra/Greninja promos 😂 I promised my wife she could open some packs too, so I left the Greninja box for her, so there's potential for something else to come
How do I go about ordering the excess cards off you for the ones you don't need/want??? 😊
I pulled a munkidori ex double rare that had a crease down the middle. It was the only card like that form the pack.
I think there has to be more balance in pulls. Not too much like Obsidian Flames, but also not extremely hard
1000 packs it’s a lot to open, but I would love to win that master binder
Congrats at finishing the master set! Beautiful binder, congrats to whomever wins it!
I opened up a kongdra as well as greninja box...got 2 regular monkidory ex cards...that's it. My fiance opened the same boxes and pulled 3 special illustration rares. Guess I'm already done opening shrouded fable packs. At least the promos were cool...😢
This set is kicking my ass. Only 12 packs in & all I've gotten is 4 baby ex's, and 3 were pecharunt, and 1 revavroom
And I keep hearing etb is delayed, but I ordered one & it's already in transit 🤷♂️
My son and I opened 18 packs last night - 1 sar, 1- Tera full art, 1-full art, 1-EX, 1- ace spec. Not bad, not great. 👍
Idk if batching is a problem I opened 1 of every product and pulled a kingdra ex in the blister and kingambit box, a fezandipiti ex full art in the kingdra ex and greninja ex box and then another fezandipiti ex full art alongside a regular one in the etb.
Haven't had a master set since I was 16. In 1998
Crazy it took 1008 pack to complete a 99 card set, absolutely nuts.
I think its harder to pull because the set is a lot smaller than other S&V sets, also seeing a lot of comparisons against booster box sets? This is a holiday set at the end of the day it should only be conpared to other holiday/special sets
Shrouded Fable though is 100% the Champions path of S&V era
The pull rates on this set are so broken so far, it's ridiculous. For a special set with very few cards actually in this set, it shouldn't take 300 packs to pull most full arts, or 1000 packs to get 1 Cassiopeia. There are definitely batching issues already, so lets hope this gets fixed by the time the other products finally release, or no one is going to buy these products and just wait for Steller Crown instead.
I bought 1 3 blister pack and pulled a cass and full art okidogi so I’m not complaining 😅
These pull rate videos are so great
I opened 14 packs and only got 2 Munkidori EX which hurt. From what I've been seeing the hits are very batched with people either getting great pull rates or terrible as opposed to more evenly distributed. Thanks for the info as always!
I opened 9 packs to get one ex, pretty disappointing
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Thank you for allowing to pump the brakes on my FOMO! Love the data, may just wait to buy a horsea IR 😅
Twilight masquerade was also brutal … it took me forever to pull the Perrin SIR
Opened 10 packs so far, all I have is a monkidori ex and a Cassiopeia full art. Better then nothing but it’s looking rough
Seen the new pikachu promo that's available on UK pokecentre with every order?
So you FEEL LIKE Shrouded Fable and Stellar Crown make up one giant set since Fable the specialty set is small. DOES that mean that you FEEL like Obsidian Flames and 151 were 1 giant set as they too were small and a month apart?!?! 🤔🤔🤔 why can’t Fable be a stand alone specialty set…small, like all the other specialty sets?!? Hidden Fates, 151, PoGo, etc
They had shrouded fates ETBs in switzerland last saturday…..
I opened 10 mini tins , 20 packs, pulls:1 sar ,2 full art, 5 illustration rares, 6 ex, 2 ace spec. Only 4 packs that were duds!!Maybe buy mini tins 👍🏻 got my chase (Cassiopeia sar) and no need to buy more 🎉🎉🎉. Back to twilight to chase the evee
Got 10/27 pack with hits, nothing great. Best thing I got was the Munkidori IR and 2 Tapu. I think I got the better end but still a brutal pull rate for the better rarity cards
I opened 2 greninja 1 kingdra 1 kingambit thats 19 packs. I got 6 ex and 2 full arts
Definitely just going to stick with buying singles that I like for this set. The selling point for special sets is usually the theme and pull rates, but this set's just not it for me.
Are the custom binders one offs or available for purchase?
That binder is so 🔥
Only bought a 3 pk blister so far and pulled the Pecharunt hyper rare.