Great job, David. My three personal rules: typically in my church I will sometimes - ONLY sometimes, don't make it a "thing," ask the Spirit to lead you - play under the prayer following the sermon, leading into the closing song. All of these rules are aimed at NOT distracting from the spoken word. #1 play out of tempo (rubato or molto rubato), it can begin to feel too driving to the congregation if you're pushing a tempo #2 do NOT play a familiar (or any) melody; it makes the congregation sing the song in their heads; distracting #3 do not play in the key of the closing song but be prepared as you sense the closing of the prayer to move to that key so you can easily move to the closing song seamlessly. Particularly, underscore in a key lower than the closing song, so that you can modulate up to the closing song giving a little energy or breath as you ask them to participate again.
Being trained at an Assemblies of God Church, I learned this style of non intrusive playing. I later found out that this is known as talk music when I began playing for a Gospel based Baptist church. During times of prayer I would add more pad. If Pastor is talking I use little to no pad. No overused themes, no melodies to any recognizable songs and no harsh patches. I wish I could say that it’s a science. It isn’t. Listening and awareness is key.
TOTALLY guilty of hinting too much to the song we’re moving into by hitting the riff, or the chord progression in the song. This video has me rethinking my entire approach to underscoring. Great advice!
I like to try and add subtle hints. Typically I’m never at the songs tempo so it’s almost unrecognizable. Sometimes change up the rhythm of the line. But also never do it more than once or twice in a row. If it’s a moment where we just finished a song and pastor is speaking I’ll keep the progression going until he switches what he is doing. Example; comes up and talks I keep playing progression, starts praying - change progression, offering - progression change again. But also will change progression in between those moments if they linger for awhile.
3:35 excellent choice of chords with backing pad, the idea is not to get too busy, allow the speaker to be limelighted, execute those notes smartly with a lot of space and breath, this is where people are contemplating and thinking, soul searching.
As an electric guitarist, I do this kind of thing with the keyboardist weekly. I use volume swells for the pad sound and he plays a clean piano sound over it. It works really well. We usually play I IV of the last key we played in. Occasionally I mix in a vi ii, because they're relative minors to I IV so I don't have to worry about clashing with my counterpart. In my mind they're variations of the same progression.
This helped me understand a lot of what I could hear but could not play. Visual plus hearing. Thanks for going very slowly. Some people teach a song by showing how well and fast they can play but for a beginner I need super slow then progress. You did a great job explaining. Thanks again.
I always have the issue of focusing too much on what I was playing and not whoever is speaking, getting to bored and ending up overplaying. This definitely helps!
Great info. Two important things to add -- 1. The sound engineer needs to understand that the dynamic range of a piano or keyboard os much smaller than a guitar or singer -- thus needs to "ride the fader" more. 2. The sound engineer's first priority is to pay attention and get the mix right -- making sure the speaker isn't overpowered by the background instrument. I've seen too many "set-it-and-forget-it" young sound engineers currently being raised up. They don't understand that the sound mixer is the most important part of the worship team.
I wouldd loooove if you maybe put the end of a live sermon on her while you play under it as a live example :) love doing this myself when I do at church for prayer.
I love that a lot of your videos are geared towards beginner worship keys players, but I was wondering if you all were ever planning on going through some more complex topics for keys players/ mainstage users. For example how to use the “scripter” function in MS? Overall great video!
Great Video. However, In my opinion when the pastor is speaking ( especially if it's the semon) it is better to keep piano ( or any other sounds that have a fast attack) out and use more pads and strings to enhance the mood (just like In the movies). This is because using a piano sound (which has a fast attack) makes it seem as if the keys are talking alongside the Speaker thus tending to distract the listeners. Instruments are accomplimemts. What people want to hear is the words, the instruments come to enhance the words. As an keyboardist are you enhancing the words being spoken/sang 😊
Great advice on training up the muscle memory so you have the capacity while playing to listen to the speaker so you can follow their energy accordingly. Sometimes l like to take the melody of a song we just played and do some variations on that to kind of echo what just happened, especially if the pastor or worship leader is sharing from a moment that just happened during a song we played. I think a key for me (no pun intended) is definitely making sure the piano isn't taking away from what is being said but is complimenting it. I've definitely been guilty of overplaying before and a lot of times I do find in those situations, that less is more.
Man, I wish I knew this right from the start. The first time I was asked to play under a sermon, I kinda just noodled around and it felt really really awkward and wrong.
It's so sad, if we need emotionalism to convict us of a message. Then we have to ask ourselves, are we being convicted or emotionally moved? Then we wonder why when trouble comes, we are easily moved to doubt; we have no strong foundation. I have been a pentecostal/charismatic piano player my whole life, and I know how we move people to emotionalism. I have been convicted by God's word. Worship comes from the content of the heart and mind, and only way to take part of it is when we believed, we were regenerated by the Holy Spirit. There is nothing else to be added, nothing else to be desired, other than to grow by His Holy Spirit, and word. If we need a pad in order to feel God's presence, are we truly feeling His "presence"? Are we elevating an experience, over real worship, which means to yield to God? I hope my message makes you ponder, and think about the state of the church today. If we take all this away, all the technology all the pads, God forbid, because we are no longer allowed to congregate, how many people will be left in our churches? Anyways, I hope ya'll understand where I'm coming from.
Amen. Our church is a small and a start up church. A lot of us experienced other "big" and elaborate church with piano and drum sets. But here we learned that as simple as an acoustic guitar plus experiences with Jesus will move you into a heartfelt worship!
@@irisalcantara8523 love that Iris! I’ve been a musician my whole life. And it was very difficult for me to let go of all my musical fleshly desires. I still jam out on my own. And with friends. But church should be reverent.
Nice video. My pastor wants me to "noodle" under him every week, so I have found that the piano and pad thing really works as well. I have never tried toggling the 6 to 2. I think I will try it this morning. Thank you.
Hi Mary, it might help to "practice" this while you are not at church, start slow and just try a simple chord progression going between the 1 to 4 chord until that feels comfortable, then try adding more chords or simple melodic phrases. It does takes time :)
I had a lot of trouble with this when I first started 14 months ago; worshiping at home and trying to talk to God while playing and singing has helped. I see an improvement in the past year. ❤
If it’s just an actual sermon, I would recommend just playing piano first. Start off playing a few note every 5 second then build up along with the sermon and then bringing in pad later. If you play pad the entire time the sound is rlly annoying.
Great job, David. My three personal rules: typically in my church I will sometimes - ONLY sometimes, don't make it a "thing," ask the Spirit to lead you - play under the prayer following the sermon, leading into the closing song. All of these rules are aimed at NOT distracting from the spoken word. #1 play out of tempo (rubato or molto rubato), it can begin to feel too driving to the congregation if you're pushing a tempo #2 do NOT play a familiar (or any) melody; it makes the congregation sing the song in their heads; distracting #3 do not play in the key of the closing song but be prepared as you sense the closing of the prayer to move to that key so you can easily move to the closing song seamlessly. Particularly, underscore in a key lower than the closing song, so that you can modulate up to the closing song giving a little energy or breath as you ask them to participate again.
Being trained at an Assemblies of God Church, I learned this style of non intrusive playing. I later found out that this is known as talk music when I began playing for a Gospel based Baptist church. During times of prayer I would add more pad. If Pastor is talking I use little to no pad. No overused themes, no melodies to any recognizable songs and no harsh patches. I wish I could say that it’s a science. It isn’t. Listening and awareness is key.
my pastor asks me to play a song that he sang about 5 minutes ago, or a song that is related to the sermon.
different situation I guess lol
Assemblies of God this side won't allow to play anything while the pastor is preaching except for few... 🤦😭
Anointed Keyboard players are as valuable to the church as the pastor and the apostle.
That's my church,they don't like background music during sermon,, except it's a youth fellowship
TOTALLY guilty of hinting too much to the song we’re moving into by hitting the riff, or the chord progression in the song. This video has me rethinking my entire approach to underscoring. Great advice!
Same here!
I like to try and add subtle hints. Typically I’m never at the songs tempo so it’s almost unrecognizable. Sometimes change up the rhythm of the line. But also never do it more than once or twice in a row. If it’s a moment where we just finished a song and pastor is speaking I’ll keep the progression going until he switches what he is doing. Example; comes up and talks I keep playing progression, starts praying - change progression, offering - progression change again. But also will change progression in between those moments if they linger for awhile.
3:35 excellent choice of chords with backing pad, the idea is not to get too busy, allow the speaker to be limelighted, execute those notes smartly with a lot of space and breath, this is where people are contemplating and thinking, soul searching.
As an electric guitarist, I do this kind of thing with the keyboardist weekly. I use volume swells for the pad sound and he plays a clean piano sound over it. It works really well. We usually play I IV of the last key we played in. Occasionally I mix in a vi ii, because they're relative minors to I IV so I don't have to worry about clashing with my counterpart. In my mind they're variations of the same progression.
This is brilliant. What's your Facebook? Ifioque is mine. Wanna connect? I'm a pianist in Nigeria
This helped me understand a lot of what I could hear but could not play. Visual plus hearing. Thanks for going very slowly. Some people teach a song by showing how well and fast they can play but for a beginner I need super slow then progress. You did a great job explaining. Thanks again.
Glad it helped!
Great video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Thanks Ed!
I always have the issue of focusing too much on what I was playing and not whoever is speaking, getting to bored and ending up overplaying. This definitely helps!
It's amazing what you can do with only two chords. Thanks!
Love how the 6 and the 2 sound, and moving to 1 when the song starts will sound awesome
Your progression reminds me of Elevation's worship song, Used to this.
Really good lesson and also comments. Thank you!
Wonderful, nice and understandable.
How about some black metal chords during the offering?
Thank you this was so good
So helpful, thank you!!
Love this tutorial. Thank you so much for doing this! Will be sending over to train one of our keyboardists today!
Great info. Two important things to add --
1. The sound engineer needs to understand that the dynamic range of a piano or keyboard os much smaller than a guitar or singer -- thus needs to "ride the fader" more.
2. The sound engineer's first priority is to pay attention and get the mix right -- making sure the speaker isn't overpowered by the background instrument.
I've seen too many "set-it-and-forget-it" young sound engineers currently being raised up. They don't understand that the sound mixer is the most important part of the worship team.
Musicians spent years perfecting their craft only to be ruined by the mixer. Unbelievable how much damage is caused by poor mixing. Arrest them!
Great Sir..... Love You...... Greetings from India.....
God bless you abundantly.....
Very useful ❤️❤️
thanks man, God bless you for this amazing tutorial
I wouldd loooove if you maybe put the end of a live sermon on her while you play under it as a live example :) love doing this myself when I do at church for prayer.
I love that a lot of your videos are geared towards beginner worship keys players, but I was wondering if you all were ever planning on going through some more complex topics for keys players/ mainstage users. For example how to use the “scripter” function in MS?
Overall great video!
Thanks so much, God bless you greatly
Thank you very much for this and sharing your talent, it is greatly respected and appreciated. This is beautiful ❤
Great video. It's always good to see other's expertise and thanks for sharing yours!
Great Video. However, In my opinion when the pastor is speaking ( especially if it's the semon) it is better to keep piano ( or any other sounds that have a fast attack) out and use more pads and strings to enhance the mood (just like In the movies). This is because using a piano sound (which has a fast attack) makes it seem as if the keys are talking alongside the Speaker thus tending to distract the listeners. Instruments are accomplimemts. What people want to hear is the words, the instruments come to enhance the words. As an keyboardist are you enhancing the words being spoken/sang 😊
thanks for sharing!
Thank you ... its very helpful
Super practical! Thank you for sharing. Would love to hear some more example progressions or how to keep growing in this skill
Yeah same here bro
Awesomes this help me out always I’ll was worried about what to play when a preach is talking
Me playing piano while someone is praying
My pastor: shut up
Great advice on training up the muscle memory so you have the capacity while playing to listen to the speaker so you can follow their energy accordingly. Sometimes l like to take the melody of a song we just played and do some variations on that to kind of echo what just happened, especially if the pastor or worship leader is sharing from a moment that just happened during a song we played. I think a key for me (no pun intended) is definitely making sure the piano isn't taking away from what is being said but is complimenting it. I've definitely been guilty of overplaying before and a lot of times I do find in those situations, that less is more.
This is very helpful.
Thanks a lot bro. God bless you
That’s incredible!
Thank you vary much
Great tips!
Key of C, keep it really cimple.😎
Super video
Focused patient calm and encouraging thank you very much
thanks for sharing
Muy buen video, excelente, gracias, bendiciones 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Vivo en estocolmo Suecia.
I can play what you are playing... just without the amazing feel. Still got a lot to learn.
Thanks a lot
This is a big help for me brother!!!! Thank you for sharing what you know. God bless!
Thank You!!!
Excellent
Great video! Thanks!
whats the best keyboard to have at church for worship, and what is the best to have to practice with at home?
Man, I wish I knew this right from the start. The first time I was asked to play under a sermon, I kinda just noodled around and it felt really really awkward and wrong.
Very useful videos. Thank you so much for sharing them with us. I wonder what software you’re using on your laptop?
It’s called Sunday Keys. You can learn all about it at the link in the description: sundaysounds.com/pages/sunday-keys-app
I do this now often so this is a great assistance. Thank you! 🥳😁🎹
It's so sad, if we need emotionalism to convict us of a message. Then we have to ask ourselves, are we being convicted or emotionally moved? Then we wonder why when trouble comes, we are easily moved to doubt; we have no strong foundation. I have been a pentecostal/charismatic piano player my whole life, and I know how we move people to emotionalism. I have been convicted by God's word. Worship comes from the content of the heart and mind, and only way to take part of it is when we believed, we were regenerated by the Holy Spirit. There is nothing else to be added, nothing else to be desired, other than to grow by His Holy Spirit, and word. If we need a pad in order to feel God's presence, are we truly feeling His "presence"? Are we elevating an experience, over real worship, which means to yield to God? I hope my message makes you ponder, and think about the state of the church today. If we take all this away, all the technology all the pads, God forbid, because we are no longer allowed to congregate, how many people will be left in our churches? Anyways, I hope ya'll understand where I'm coming from.
Amen. Our church is a small and a start up church. A lot of us experienced other "big" and elaborate church with piano and drum sets. But here we learned that as simple as an acoustic guitar plus experiences with Jesus will move you into a heartfelt worship!
@@irisalcantara8523 love that Iris! I’ve been a musician my whole life. And it was very difficult for me to let go of all my musical fleshly desires. I still jam out on my own. And with friends. But church should be reverent.
Can you share the brand or model of your laptop stand? Thanks!
Sounds great!
Do you have videos that pertain to learning piano?
Nice video. My pastor wants me to "noodle" under him every week, so I have found that the piano and pad thing really works as well. I have never tried toggling the 6 to 2. I think I will try it this morning. Thank you.
😅😅
awesome, thanks and God bless
Thank you👍🏻
I like to use major chords for passive music and add minor chords for intense moments 😅
What application or software can I use to set up my sounds?
Please I can't listen to the keyboard when playing so am unable to spell the song please what should I do
Please what’s the name of the DAW used in this video?
So good guys- thanks for all you do! And the video quality is amazing (coming from a video channel haha)
QUESTION: How can I master playing the keys and speaking or praying at the same time. It seems I have a hard time doing both well.
Hi Mary, it might help to "practice" this while you are not at church, start slow and just try a simple chord progression going between the 1 to 4 chord until that feels comfortable, then try adding more chords or simple melodic phrases. It does takes time :)
I had a lot of trouble with this when I first started 14 months ago; worshiping at home and trying to talk to God while playing and singing has helped. I see an improvement in the past year. ❤
Great vid. Thanks. Where can we find SK 20 Piano 1, SK 20 E Piano 2 and SK Grand? Always searching for the "perfect" piano sounds.
Same haha
all the sounds in this video are in Sunday Keys: sundaysounds.com/pages/sunday-keys
“I Can Only Imagine” at 3:56?
Do you have any tutorial how to setup keyboard with that kind of sound without using any software or apps?
we have quite a few on our channel, here is the most recent keys rig setup and recommendations: ruclips.net/video/up4659eotaU/видео.html
Can i buy single patches for mainstage?
I fill this role but from an acoustic guitar 😭. It’s so much better on keys though.
Hello everyone can I ask how can I get the Sunday keys app
sundaysounds.com/pages/sunday-keys-versions
Please which sounds did you use...
All the sounds in this video are from our Sunday Keys Template: sundaysounds.com/pages/sunday-keys
What software do you use
how do you do this for smaller midi controllers
What software is being used from your laptop?
MainStage 3
Can I use an iPad Pro?
I'd like to hear this in live action
We've got a full worship set in-ear mix that includes some underscoring (and timestamps) here: ruclips.net/video/u7i4UfsvAn8/видео.html
can you go faster next time so that i see what keys you’re pressing 😀
If it’s just an actual sermon, I would recommend just playing piano first. Start off playing a few note every 5 second then build up along with the sermon and then bringing in pad later. If you play pad the entire time the sound is rlly annoying.
❤
Please 🙏 sir are you on WhatsApp so I can be able learn this skills of play 🎹
Fun fact: don't play this with cuban, puerto ricam and some hispanic pastors. They'll gonna told ypu to play louder 😂😂
Naw this ain’t for the Pentecostal folks. When that reverend or bishop starts revin up you gotta crank w him!!!!!
Playing talk music like that is definitely a different style, for a different video :)
There's no such thing as 'worship piano'...
Great job
Can l get your Gmail for more details?