So true, bc their real voices weren't bad at all. We buy albums all the time from people who are mediocre, or just plain suck because they are good looking or can dance. If Grammys or record sales only reflected talent, lots of artists would be stripped of their awards too. Everyone saw them as a joke, but sadly Rob eventually lost his life bc their greedy producer didn't want to take the time to give them a drop of vocal training or even singing lessons. He just wanted to basically make money off of their looks and the real singers voices.
Maialeen .... This not the best photo of him. Actually, he does look very young in recent pictures, videos, and performances of him online. He has not changed much at all. To me he looks better than he did in the 90's. His career is going well in The Netherlands. He seems very happy and at peace. He's in his late 40's,but, he looks like he's in his early 30's.
1989: gets blacklisted for lip syncing 2018: oh you lip sync and don't even write your own music? Oh okay, Let's compare you to legends even though you don't do anything notable
+crystalk17co the ironic part of lip syncing is the INDUSTRY CREATED THIS FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT. its ACTUALLY NOT CHEATING. its actually a form of entertainment the industry created to make money. REALLY??? Yess!!!! See if an artist has a live band and actually performs it could cost you or whomever up to $500,000 a gig (for a well known artist), but if the same artist lip syncs that same fee is like $15,000 - $200,000 (again depending upon the artist).
+crystalk17co The point here is not the lip-sync but the fact that the voices werent even theirs. They werent even lip syncing. Those were other people's voices. At least singers now lip-sync their own voices
+FacebookBrowser "Their own voices" with many modifications and improvements. Many singers nowadays don't have really talent only a visual and a good program to make it happen!
+Tyesha Brown .. He has and is still modeling. He is very active on social media. Check his pages for pictures. He was featured in Esquire Magazine the Netherlands in December. The pictures are online. He lives in Amsterdam. his career is going well.
@Snarick Klash Actually they did. Farian first locked them in an airtight contract that he knew they didn't have the financial means to get out of, and only THEN informed them that they wouldn't be singing on the record. Both were young, barely into their 20's, and totally inexperienced and naive, didn't know anyone else in the business and had no money to either go back to Europe or fight the legal battle a contract violation would entail. Farian, on the other hand, was an old pro at the game. That's why he came out totally unscathed while the boys' lives and careers were ruined.
Fab can sing!! He was at a festival in 2018 singing live and definitely not lip syncing. Fab has a great voice, and he sang Girl You Know It’s True and Blame it on The Rain and WOW... what a performance! It blew me away to see how well he can sing and why they were not allowed to sing the songs. He is phenomenal! It’s so sad how Fab and Rob weren’t given a chance to show their true talent and how good of a voice they had. Fab has a GREAT voice!!! Rob would be so proud of Fab, and he’s looking down smiling.
Some people just cannot get over things, I don't understand why people are still a angry at him. He gave up his Grammy. What else do you want him to do?
Because even before people found out Milli Vanilli was fronted by lip-synchers, plenty of people at the time already thought them and their music, which was enormously popular, was crap basically. A sketch of them from the comedy show In Living Color at the time confirms this. They were often ridiculed for the synthesized sounds of the songs and their rapping and their lyrics and their highly-stylized hair and fashion and even European origins with their thick accents. Their enormous success and everything that had made them successful made them easy targets for the press.
They WERE duped. I think they RECORDED vocs for those tracks, thinking it was THEM in the final production, but session singers were brought in AFTER the fact and dubbed over. SAD story all round!
Dale Howard Because the producer and the record labels were making too much money with Milli Vanilli as it was. The producer’s logic at the time was, “‘Girl You Know It’s True’ was a huge hit single, so everybody knows the vocals. We can’t change it now.” Plus, the studio singers in Milli Vanilli took a third from whatever Rob and Fab got, so they would not have made money if Rob and Fab had been allowed to sing. It was unfair to Rob & Fab because they were a big part of why Milli Vanilli was so big. But the music industry is a business and once Rob & Fab could no longer make money for the industry, they were just chewed up and spat out and were made to take the brunt of the backlash against Milli Vanilli.
This history is so sad, these two guys were bullied and hated in an absurd and shameful way to the point that people pushed rob to suicide, they were just two young boys with dreams and very talented, actually rob sings nowadays and he does it very well. I’m very glad for him. God bless him!
RUclips Music Playlist he did not decide to lip sync, he was manipulated by his producer with a contract of how he was not gonna be able to actually sing
Incredible testimony! Happy to see he's living a life that's made him stronger and more confident in his current singing career! The past hasn't defined him!
Sure his past defines him. He was awesome then and he’s awesome now. This scandal didn’t change as many opinions as ppl think I still watch their videos to this day
I couldn't imagine losing my brother due to the overwhelming "hate" from society. And having to due it all alone. Gotta be pretty strong to persevere through that.
I was in my pre teens when this happened and I thought everyone overreacted. Today 2 weeks before 2020, they could have made a big career out of it. People should really watch how they treat, talk to and put down others, you never know what that does to someone. Such a sad tale.
I don’t think many fans cared. I think the media and Hollywood is where majority of hate came from cause you’re right no one where I was cared I still listen to these songs and watch the videos didn’t alter my view of them one bit
watch what? are you delusional? they knew they were scamming people. it's not like stealing from a store ( like what these worthless insect are doing now storming thru stores). music fans are different, a lot would sacrifice blood and tears just to work and earn enough cash to buy concert tickets. his addiction was his choice!
@@edmontoncouple1562 Addiction is not a choice. Taking or trying drugs is a choice, true, but addiction is a DISEASE. they were not ''scamming'' people, they were also duped into this. when they started demanding to be allowed to sing, they were spat out by industry. no need to use mental illness as an insult or insult people in the first place. have some empathy. yes, they made mistake, they also share some responsibility, but they are not some ''villains'' that you make them. chill.
This was a great tribute to them. Me and my friends loved them and we did not care that they were an act. we loved the act. we were disappointed when everyone turned on them in the media. we were still playing theirs songs at parties and dancing like them.
These days. No one would bat an eye lid. The thing is now, there is a massive sense of sadness. Good words. When you fall, you get back up and you move on. Words to live by.
I was far too young at the time to remember Milli Vanilli but something about Rob's death is very sad and haunting. It's like he was murdered by the greed of the music industry, and the fact that the producer let all of the blame for his scheme fall on the performers. They were just hungry kids lured by the temptation of money and fame, only to lose it all in an instant. I feel so sorry for them. I'm glad to see that Fab seems to have been able to find some sense of happiness and self-respect over the years.
@@Fk0ff238 i hope you still see this reply. what the heck does Gaaaaaaaay supposed to mean. What a ridiculous comment. Are you coming out and telling us you are gay? Ok. now i get it.
It seems to me like ALL of the blame fell on Rob and Fab, and to me that never seemed right. Without a doubt they were wrong for agreeing to do what they did, but why wasn't Frank Farian tarred and feathered in the press right along with them? And furthermore, and this is somewhat off-topic, but how did Clivilles & Cole essentially get away with the EXACT SAME THING a year later AND manage to maintain their reputations as top in-demand producers?
Cole & Clivilles were sued by Martha Wash. She also sued Black Box and won both cases. Martha was featured on C&C's follow-up cd as well and toured with them. After that she went back to her solo work and that was the end of C&C and Black Box basically.
+Onyx Nightshade It's like they were the fall guys for something they're sorry for. And yet years later we get lip-synching wannabes get away in their so-called performances with impunity. One of my brothers cringe whenever he hears blatantly pre-recorded footage of "singing" teen actors/actresses on a noontime variety show in my country, out of disgust for their reckless disregard to talent in favour of petty love teams and money.
+El Grande Gringo Fantastico It was satirised in GTA San Andreas, where an established rapper is pitted against a pop-rap wannabe in an allegory to popular music of the time. CJ once blurted out that any idiot "can get a record deal these days", which unfortunately holds true to this day.
Damn this dude is in his 50s and he looks like he's 30. Also I am very pleased to hear he is doing well and is happy with his life now. As for Rob, man addiction is truly a tragic disease. I was an alcoholic at 20 and I know what it's like. Very difficult stuff.
ACETYGRA they had auto tune back then to ways the could change pitch it wasn't called auto tune until mid to late 90's but the technology existed and was used
You know what's so interesting about this? At the end, they show him in the booth recording, dry live vocals, no effects, & dude actually doesn't sound half bad (at least in that clip)!!! In fact, this is my opinion, but I actually prefer his vocals over the vocals on their album lol. I'm all about comeback stories, & I can honestly say i'd love to see him come back & have a huge success after everything that happened, especially with his partner in crime passing. Wishing him well!
***** I've bred my titan. He'll be 14 soon. I wanted more, but my job didn't allow time for more :-( Thankfully, I was able to leave work and be a stay at home mom again. Women that can't have children aren't useless. The universe has a funny way of dispersing "blessings"
nah not quite lol, these dudes didnt even sing all those songs by milli vanilli is someone els' voice lol. i dont know any bit artist out there right now that are taking it that far lol
@@TM-se5jf "These guys" didn't hire anyone. They got hired. It used to be commonplace in Europe in the disco era to have studio musicians make records and then the producer would hire a different group to perform live. Frank Farian was one such producer (look up Boney M). Difference was back then, people didn't associate a song with an image right away. Once music videos became powerful, these same producers had a problem. People would be hearing AND seeing the songs being performed at the same time. When Farian did this with Milli Vanilli he realized that if they sounded differently live, the public might not accept it like they used to so he made them fake the live shows too. They were under contract, and also getting paid to jump around on stage and meet girls in their early 20s. As you know, this was all a recipe for tragedy.
Milli Vanilli doesn't deserve to end up becoming the definition of debauchery and lies in the music industry, as they were merely models. Truth be told the industry itself has been a sham from the beginning, but it took an obvious blunder for the public audience to agree and place blame on the pretty faces that deceived them, when in fact it was the faces behind the curtain that put it together in the first place. I'm glad he's still making music, despite some ineptitude. (He's not awful, but isn't that great either.) The sad part about it is that it seems like he is doing it because he's obligated himself to redeem something that he's not in control of. Dude is now doing time for a crime he had the misfortune to get caught in.
+Landon Balk ...The clip of the song does not do him justice.. I saw a recent interview where he said music has been a part of his life for as long as he can remember. " He is not doing time". He said it was hard to start over after the scandal, however he made a decision to still pursue his dream. He started over. He learned to play guitar, write and produce songs. He took voice lessons and worked with dialect coaches to soften his accent. His English is fluent now. He became a solo artist, a popular DJ in California, he taught French and lectured college students on the pitfalls of the music industry. His career got a huge boost in Amsterdam. He is featured on many collaborations with other artists. You can find most of them on RUclips. He is very active on social media. Check him out and read what he is up to. He seems very peaceful, busy and happy. I am glad he never gave up, things are working out well after all.
SO lovely to see him!! He looks FAB! These days they could have stood up & start again (using Auto-Tune & play-backing are normal now), but back in the day, it became a huge scandal. Bigger than it should have been and it wasn't even their fault, - *Don't forget they wanted to sing, but were not allowed to.* He really CAN sing. Not worse than any other artist in the industry these days. In fact, his rapping in the song LIVE in 2008 sounds exactly as the original. (look it up it's here on YT) So, *someone* came up with the idea, produced those songs, someone agreed to sing backstage, *used them* ON stage and made just as much (if not more) money on it/them. Shame that they got all the blame & the rest got away with it. ~ We adored them regardless. Either way, the looks, the show, the way they were on the stage, the videoclips, whether they sang or not, don't forget THEY were Nr.1 worldwide! x
Fab still looks great!! This story is so sad for all the innocents involved. I remember as a teen watching the scandal and being so upset that Rob and Fab were being targeted when it was the producers who were to blame. Every time the music industry did this sort of thing to talented singers I got angry, but it was not the “facade” people’s fault and unfortunately they’d get all the punches, as Fab said. I’m just glad he stayed strong though all of it. Poor Rob!! 😭
Rob was not just dealing with neglect from the industry, he was also dealing with his family disowning him. I am sure that left Rob feeling completely alone. So sad he could not find a way through the worst kind of rejection. He was actually a very good person. Not many people know he grew up in Germany as the only black student who was bullied all the time.
Still super sad, reminds me of the Pussycat Dolls. People don't know the pressure or the lack of control the artists have. Like in PCD, the other girls didn't sing, it wasn't cuz they didn't want to, they weren't allowed to and they were under contract, and regardless, if these powerful industry people tell you you're not gonna sing but you will be a worldwide success are you gonna say no and now risk getting black balled while they find another who will play the game or do you stick it out until you hopefully become powerful enough to take control without fear of being shut out?
MadMaxxieXD What was really sad about PCD is that the girl weren't even a "group", they were actually salaried employees of Interscope to be in that band. Shame, because they all could sing (maybe some better than others) but they could've been a legitimate vocal group had they been allowed to.
I don't condone what they did but think about it, you're poor, broke, Homeless living in The UK Equivalent of a Subway Station called The Tubes where alot of Runaways Live and then someone tells you they can make you a Star, flash Dollar Signs in front of you and turn every dream you have into a reality. You're so desperate that you'll do it, and then you realize you sold your soul to The Devil. Fab knows he'll never be successful and famous like he was back in the day yet he was able to try to get his life back together unlike Rob.
laminage They really didn’t have a choice. They signed a contract that they could barely read and by the time they understood it, they couldn’t do anything about it. The sad thing is that they could actually sing
Bruh, you should be selling that secret to how you look like you're still in your late twenties. You'd be sitting on millions in a week's time---and looking at Amsterdam from a rearview mirror.
Fab is an absolute legend and true hero. When you fall down you pick yourself back up and carry on. Don't let the nonsense around you disturb you own life..not many people have his awesome mindset.. My hero!!!
Basically, these guys were young and didnt know much so they signed a contract that they couldnt back out of. They were the image of Milli Vanilli and guys like John Davis were guys that were into their 40s and lent their vocals to these songs.
when I first arrived in LA I was working out at a gym and out of nowhere this guy approaches me and starts talking to me. He humbly talked about his life as a singer and his passion for what he does. As he's speaking I suddenly realize he looks extremely familiar but couldn't point it out. Before leaving he gave me his info and told me to come watch him sing. A couple of hours later it hit me, it was Fab from Milli Vanilli. Small world...
Luis 10 no, I never went to watch him play but during that conversation it was clear he is a very soft spoken, lovely, sensitive soul. I could feel he had been through hardships in his life but hadn’t given up on his dreams which I really respect. I hope he is well 🙏🌈
Very touching and intelligent words, he expressed so clear and direct I've felt the same way as he did, it's very inspiring what he says, he spoke with his heart and that's what he reflects on the words he said. Good vibes to him and to the soul of ROB
Two young men struggling to achieve some sort of success are offered the chance of a life time. It's understandable that these two seized the opportunity. The shame lies more with the fans for their obsession with style and image over substance and talent.
Rob & Fabs energy and presence were vital to Milli Vanilli’s success. They have a massive legacy and Fab should be immensely proud of the heights they reached. Rest in peace Rob Pilatus you left a legacy and your name is no longer associated with shame.
It's very sad that now almost all popular artists use auto tune and lip sync in their live shows and they don't receive even 1% of the hate that Milli Vanilli received back then
These guys were unique and cool as hell back in the late 80's. Everybody afterwards sampled the crap out of that drum pattern in "Girl, You know it's True". It seemed that everyday black men - especially the "B-boyz" I went to school with verbally clowned them mercilessly during their rise and peak of their fame. I think they were jealous because women of all colors LOVED Milli Vanilli. The press/media had a field day when the big secret finally came out. While other people found it amusingly funny, I didn't. I didn't care. As performers, they were the total package. Sometimes I wonder if Frank Farian ever at that time considered what it would have done to the duo if he ever opened his mouth.
+Walter Harris You're damn right women of all colors loved Mili Vanilli! My mom was one of them. As such, I grew up loving them, regardless of the "scandal".
Dillon Cardiel I am so confused by folk saying that he can sing. He clearly cannot. But, then again so many folk out nowadays can’t so, more power to him.
what happen to those two guys were terrible, people need to understand that there are people in the position of power or authority can damage other people lives over greed , ignorance, narrow minded thinking. I sense that he can sing but unfortunately I feel that he will never get back to the status he once was but he loves to sing and that will last forever. the sad thing is that these musicians today are singing through auto tune which hides there true voice which in terms is lip syncing through high technology so in some ways these singers today are doing the same thing milli vanilli did back in the day.
Really sad, but you guys rocked and still remembered but betrayal is part n parcel of life , never know what's right in the corner. Best wishes to you, miss pilatus.
ALWAYS LOVED U GUYS! YUR STAGE PRESENCE WAS SIMPLY AWESOME!! & AFTER THE SCANDAL I REMEMBER U GUYS WERE GUESTS ON ARSENIO HALL & AS HE HAD RIGHTLY NOTED U GUYS SOUNDED JUST GREAT SINGING IN YUR O.W.N. VOICES! R.I.P. ROB
They were and are amazing people and they definitely didn’t deserve what happened to them. I’m happy Fab can just do what he wants to do. He has finally found his happiness
Nicki's rap in the song Transformer brought me here, but this story is so sad. One of them died too, oh this is sad. Some Artist in this Era are doing the same thing. Sad!
Cherish G LOOKS like him, and I thought back then SOUNDED like him, too. In Girl You Know it’s True the rap he lip synched sounded to me like Tommy Davidson was on the mic.
Falls Finest The real voices were way more masculine. Combine that with the looks on the dudes and BOOM. Great package to sell. But I do gotta say that Rob and Fab knew how to dance.
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Rob and Fab deserve forgiveness, they we're young and naive, managed by a greedy producer
So true, bc their real voices weren't bad at all. We buy albums all the time from people who are mediocre, or just plain suck because they are good looking or can dance. If Grammys or record sales only reflected talent, lots of artists would be stripped of their awards too. Everyone saw them as a joke, but sadly Rob eventually lost his life bc their greedy producer didn't want to take the time to give them a drop of vocal training or even singing lessons. He just wanted to basically make money off of their looks and the real singers voices.
I hope to hear his new album soon. Im sure it will be great :)
Yesenia Rosales they weren’t young
Caramel Spice good lookig??hahahahahaha yeah right..
Yesenia Rosales the world wants to be forgiven but don't like to forgive
Milli Vanilli is over 25 years ago and this guy didn't age a day. He can make a living selling whatever he does to stay young.
UTC Zulu YES TRUE BRO
+Newpower Generation ... Rob Pilatus died. The man in the video is Fab Morvan.
+Newpower Generation ... Rob died at age 32. Fab Morvan is doing great and lives in Amsterdam.
What? He definitely does not look young. At all
Maialeen
.... This not the best photo of him. Actually, he does look very young in recent pictures, videos, and performances of him online. He has not changed much at all. To me he looks better than he did in the 90's. His career is going well in The Netherlands. He seems very happy and at peace. He's in his late 40's,but, he looks like he's in his early 30's.
1989: gets blacklisted for lip syncing
2018: oh you lip sync and don't even write your own music? Oh okay, Let's compare you to legends even though you don't do anything notable
Lebron James PS4 controller what?
@@sauron6376 what?
Uh no if you make a song u should remember it
Ahhh ahhh Drake ahhh ahhh .......
Kay Alsina The difference is it wasn’t their own voice they lip synced to so they deserve the blacklist tbh.
Jesus, this man is gorgeous. But seriously, he has such a calm peaceful energy. He seems like a sweet, kind, nice person.
Absolutely. I agree !
TOTALLY GORGEOUS, wish i could meet him 😍😍😍😍
Imo, Rob has more gorgeous eyes
💯% disagree!
Absolutely ❤, Wishing him the best God is great❤💎👑
at least social media wasn't around then. can you imagine what would have happened to them . my gosh.
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Landstalker That happened. To just one of them.. but it happened.
@@Landstalker1999. One of them did commit suicide by overdosing on drugs and alcohol. He was eventually found dead in a hotel in Germany.
tee cee memes for days
And now everyone lip syncs
And uses autotune.
+crystalk17co the ironic part of lip syncing is the INDUSTRY CREATED THIS FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT. its ACTUALLY NOT CHEATING. its actually a form of entertainment the industry created to make money. REALLY??? Yess!!!! See if an artist has a live band and actually performs it could cost you or whomever up to $500,000 a gig (for a well known artist), but if the same artist lip syncs that same fee is like $15,000 - $200,000 (again depending upon the artist).
+crystalk17co The point here is not the lip-sync but the fact that the voices werent even theirs. They werent even lip syncing. Those were other people's voices. At least singers now lip-sync their own voices
+FacebookBrowser True but if happened these days they would have gotten away with the lie.
+FacebookBrowser "Their own voices" with many modifications and improvements. Many singers nowadays don't have really talent only a visual and a good program to make it happen!
he looks better now ...he should've just modeled afterwards look at them cheek bones
+Tyesha Brown Good point. Both men were in great shape at the time. They could have both gone into modeling.
lol true
+Tyesha Brown .. He has and is still modeling. He is very active on social media. Check his pages for pictures. He was featured in Esquire Magazine the Netherlands in December. The pictures are online. He lives in Amsterdam. his career is going well.
+Tyesha Brown oh , so looks are all that matters in your "musical " world huh? that's what sank the stink assers forever --ha!
Well his looks worked in getting him in the business ...so use what you got to make it
MIlli Vanilli was 25+ years ago but this guy looked like he's in mid 30s WOW
+Liaw Aik Shen Yeah, he was 10 when he was in Milli Vanilli
Cheyenne Takitimu 😂😂
Yap 30yrs ago i think...God bless him
Their manager Frank is to be blame. Frank is to blame for Rob's death as well. So sad. Still love them even if it really wasn't them singing.
How come no one went after that guy? It seems like he came out of it unscathed! The music business is ruthless. So unfair.
@Snarick Klash Actually they did. Farian first locked them in an airtight contract that he knew they didn't have the financial means to get out of, and only THEN informed them that they wouldn't be singing on the record. Both were young, barely into their 20's, and totally inexperienced and naive, didn't know anyone else in the business and had no money to either go back to Europe or fight the legal battle a contract violation would entail. Farian, on the other hand, was an old pro at the game. That's why he came out totally unscathed while the boys' lives and careers were ruined.
The man is still alive and posting. There's still time to drag his name through the dirt where it belongs.
Fab can sing!! He was at a festival in 2018 singing live and definitely not lip syncing. Fab has a great voice, and he sang Girl You Know It’s True and Blame it on The Rain and WOW... what a performance! It blew me away to see how well he can sing and why they were not allowed to sing the songs. He is phenomenal! It’s so sad how Fab and Rob weren’t given a chance to show their true talent and how good of a voice they had. Fab has a GREAT voice!!! Rob would be so proud of Fab, and he’s looking down smiling.
Bro we can hear his voice so all I can say is stop capping 😭😭
@@Malali16 rob to me couldn’t sing but fab most definitely been doing shows and singing live and he sounds great
Some people just cannot get over things, I don't understand why people are still a angry at him. He gave up his Grammy. What else do you want him to do?
Because even before people found out Milli Vanilli was fronted by lip-synchers, plenty of people at the time already thought them and their music, which was enormously popular, was crap basically. A sketch of them from the comedy show In Living Color at the time confirms this. They were often ridiculed for the synthesized sounds of the songs and their rapping and their lyrics and their highly-stylized hair and fashion and even European origins with their thick accents. Their enormous success and everything that had made them successful made them easy targets for the press.
Julian stop singing would be about it
They WERE duped. I think they RECORDED vocs for those tracks, thinking it was THEM in the final production, but session singers were brought in AFTER the fact and dubbed over.
SAD story all round!
@@rocstarr4082 they were still treated unjustly. What I don't understand is the remaining member can actually sing. Why didn't they use his voice?
Dale Howard Because the producer and the record labels were making too much money with Milli Vanilli as it was. The producer’s logic at the time was, “‘Girl You Know It’s True’ was a huge hit single, so everybody knows the vocals. We can’t change it now.” Plus, the studio singers in Milli Vanilli took a third from whatever Rob and Fab got, so they would not have made money if Rob and Fab had been allowed to sing. It was unfair to Rob & Fab because they were a big part of why Milli Vanilli was so big. But the music industry is a business and once Rob & Fab could no longer make money for the industry, they were just chewed up and spat out and were made to take the brunt of the backlash against Milli Vanilli.
This history is so sad, these two guys were bullied and hated in an absurd and shameful way to the point that people pushed rob to suicide, they were just two young boys with dreams and very talented, actually rob sings nowadays and he does it very well. I’m very glad for him. God bless him!
Rob's overdose was ruled accidental. But yes, he was essentially driven into throes of addiction and early death.
Sad whatever happened to him. He can actually sing. Unfortunately he was manipulated. :(
RUclips Music Playlist he did not decide to lip sync, he was manipulated by his producer with a contract of how he was not gonna be able to actually sing
I agree. His producer should have let Milli Vanilli actually sing.
Timliu92 That’s nice of you, but actually he can’t.
Tab Valentino Right
locafly Not at all. Bless his heart.
AWWWW, HE SOO SWEET, AND HANDSOME.
true!
Girl you know it's true
True
Incredible testimony! Happy to see he's living a life that's made him stronger and more confident in his current singing career! The past hasn't defined him!
Sure his past defines him. He was awesome then and he’s awesome now. This scandal didn’t change as many opinions as ppl think I still watch their videos to this day
I couldn't imagine losing my brother due to the overwhelming "hate" from society. And having to due it all alone. Gotta be pretty strong to persevere through that.
And not become as hateful as this world. Very strong
I was in my pre teens when this happened and I thought everyone overreacted. Today 2 weeks before 2020, they could have made a big career out of it. People should really watch how they treat, talk to and put down others, you never know what that does to someone. Such a sad tale.
I don’t think many fans cared. I think the media and Hollywood is where majority of hate came from cause you’re right no one where I was cared I still listen to these songs and watch the videos didn’t alter my view of them one bit
right...I didn't care. RIP Rob @@CA-zr1kz 😥
watch what? are you delusional? they knew they were scamming people. it's not like stealing from a store ( like what these worthless insect are doing now storming thru stores). music fans are different, a lot would sacrifice blood and tears just to work and earn enough cash to buy concert tickets. his addiction was his choice!
@@edmontoncouple1562 Addiction is not a choice. Taking or trying drugs is a choice, true, but addiction is a DISEASE. they were not ''scamming'' people, they were also duped into this. when they started demanding to be allowed to sing, they were spat out by industry. no need to use mental illness as an insult or insult people in the first place. have some empathy. yes, they made mistake, they also share some responsibility, but they are not some ''villains'' that you make them. chill.
This was a great tribute to them. Me and my friends loved them and we did not care that they were an act. we loved the act. we were disappointed when everyone turned on them in the media. we were still playing theirs songs at parties and dancing like them.
These days. No one would bat an eye lid. The thing is now, there is a massive sense of sadness.
Good words. When you fall, you get back up and you move on. Words to live by.
I was far too young at the time to remember Milli Vanilli but something about Rob's death is very sad and haunting. It's like he was murdered by the greed of the music industry, and the fact that the producer let all of the blame for his scheme fall on the performers. They were just hungry kids lured by the temptation of money and fame, only to lose it all in an instant. I feel so sorry for them. I'm glad to see that Fab seems to have been able to find some sense of happiness and self-respect over the years.
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black dont crack
+Avril Manici thats a fact jack! lol
+Avril Manici Real talk .
ML8593wy jealous?
they just decompose...
Mecha Anim Its not like whites have the highest IQs.
He actually looks better now than before. :-) Just my opinion.
+Wee Peng I think so too.
@@Fk0ff238 i hope you still see this reply. what the heck does Gaaaaaaaay supposed to mean. What a ridiculous comment. Are you coming out and telling us you are gay? Ok. now i get it.
@@raquelf.1962 lol shut up that’s not what he meant
@@franciscopuentes6049 why don't you shut the f up u stupid piece of crap. I will shut up when I feel like it moron.
It seems to me like ALL of the blame fell on Rob and Fab, and to me that never seemed right. Without a doubt they were wrong for agreeing to do what they did, but why wasn't Frank Farian tarred and feathered in the press right along with them?
And furthermore, and this is somewhat off-topic, but how did Clivilles & Cole essentially get away with the EXACT SAME THING a year later AND manage to maintain their reputations as top in-demand producers?
Cole & Clivilles were sued by Martha Wash. She also sued Black Box and won both cases. Martha was featured on C&C's follow-up cd as well and toured with them. After that she went back to her solo work and that was the end of C&C and Black Box basically.
+Onyx Nightshade It's like they were the fall guys for something they're sorry for. And yet years later we get lip-synching wannabes get away in their so-called performances with impunity. One of my brothers cringe whenever he hears blatantly pre-recorded footage of "singing" teen actors/actresses on a noontime variety show in my country, out of disgust for their reckless disregard to talent in favour of petty love teams and money.
+El Grande Gringo Fantastico It was satirised in GTA San Andreas, where an established rapper is pitted against a pop-rap wannabe in an allegory to popular music of the time. CJ once blurted out that any idiot "can get a record deal these days", which unfortunately holds true to this day.
+Onyx Nightshade NO it was not all their doing, not even close. They just made a bad mistake in judgement, and it unfortunately killed Rob.
Through depression over how their Milli Vanilli stint ruined their lives.
You can tell that even though these guys were part of a scam, part of fake artistry, that they still had good hearts in and of themselves.
I wish Rob all of the success in the world. I'm glad that he found his way through his storm. He looks healthy and happy.
Damn this dude is in his 50s and he looks like he's 30. Also I am very pleased to hear he is doing well and is happy with his life now. As for Rob, man addiction is truly a tragic disease. I was an alcoholic at 20 and I know what it's like. Very difficult stuff.
When you think about it with auto-tune now they could have made it work.
ACETYGRA they had auto tune back then to ways the could change pitch it wasn't called auto tune until mid to late 90's but the technology existed and was used
if only they lasted 20 more years, lip syncing won't matter since every artist does it now
Every pop artist does it. Rock and roll/metal artists do not do it.
ACETYGRA
What's so great about sugary, sappy pop songs that require constant deception as to how talented the singer really is?
It matters to me. If it doesn't matter to you, then fine. Have fun with that.
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Milli Vanilli means; *"When you fall, you stand back up...and you move on"*
(My heart embraced those wise words)😢☺️ RIP Rob.😭
shut up catfish
@@MayhemMilIer u stfu shes tryna make a statement
@@BMUNNEEE u stfu
I loved that too... thank you for reiterating that...I almost had forgotten 🙏🏽💗
Same! I cried!
You know what's so interesting about this? At the end, they show him in the booth recording, dry live vocals, no effects, & dude actually doesn't sound half bad (at least in that clip)!!! In fact, this is my opinion, but I actually prefer his vocals over the vocals on their album lol. I'm all about comeback stories, & I can honestly say i'd love to see him come back & have a huge success after everything that happened, especially with his partner in crime passing. Wishing him well!
I still listen Milli Vanilli no matter what.
I use my Walkman to listen to them and Paula Abdul. It still works!!!
***** Thank you.
***** I'm good. My eggs dried up years ago. I don't do sex. I kayak instead.
***** I've bred my titan. He'll be 14 soon. I wanted more, but my job didn't allow time for more :-( Thankfully, I was able to leave work and be a stay at home mom again. Women that can't have children aren't useless. The universe has a funny way of dispersing "blessings"
Great story Fab! It is so sad that we live in a world devoid of forgiveness and forgetfulness.
Funny how most celebrities lip-sync now. lol. They paved the way.
nah not quite lol, these dudes didnt even sing all those songs by milli vanilli is someone els' voice lol. i dont know any bit artist out there right now that are taking it that far lol
Ridiculous statement. People lip sync USING THEIR OWN VOICES. They guys hired other people's voices. How is this even a comparison🤔
They didnt pave the way. These people are characters and lip syncing has been around for ever. Signs and symbols roule the world!!.
@@TM-se5jf "These guys" didn't hire anyone. They got hired. It used to be commonplace in Europe in the disco era to have studio musicians make records and then the producer would hire a different group to perform live. Frank Farian was one such producer (look up Boney M). Difference was back then, people didn't associate a song with an image right away. Once music videos became powerful, these same producers had a problem. People would be hearing AND seeing the songs being performed at the same time. When Farian did this with Milli Vanilli he realized that if they sounded differently live, the public might not accept it like they used to so he made them fake the live shows too. They were under contract, and also getting paid to jump around on stage and meet girls in their early 20s. As you know, this was all a recipe for tragedy.
People lip synced then.. It was still to thier own voices though
The irony is Fab has a good voice of his own. Many people won't know that. It's all sad how this came about and that Rob is gone. :(
Rob Pilatus's death is on Frank Farians head....
Milli Vanilli doesn't deserve to end up becoming the definition of debauchery and lies in the music industry, as they were merely models. Truth be told the industry itself has been a sham from the beginning, but it took an obvious blunder for the public audience to agree and place blame on the pretty faces that deceived them, when in fact it was the faces behind the curtain that put it together in the first place. I'm glad he's still making music, despite some ineptitude. (He's not awful, but isn't that great either.) The sad part about it is that it seems like he is doing it because he's obligated himself to redeem something that he's not in control of. Dude is now doing time for a crime he had the misfortune to get caught in.
+Landon Balk ...The clip of the song does not do him justice.. I saw a recent interview where he said music has been a part of his life for as long as he can remember. " He is not doing time". He said it was hard to start over after the scandal, however he made a decision to still pursue his dream. He started over. He learned to play guitar, write and produce songs. He took voice lessons and worked with dialect coaches to soften his accent. His English is fluent now. He became a solo artist, a popular DJ in California, he taught French and lectured college students on the pitfalls of the music industry. His career got a huge boost in Amsterdam. He is featured on many collaborations with other artists. You can find most of them on RUclips. He is very active on social media. Check him out and read what he is up to. He seems very peaceful, busy and happy. I am glad he never gave up, things are working out well after all.
+Landon Balk Yeah that is true.
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SO lovely to see him!! He looks FAB! These days they could have stood up & start again (using Auto-Tune & play-backing are normal now), but back in the day, it became a huge scandal. Bigger than it should have been and it wasn't even their fault, - *Don't forget they wanted to sing, but were not allowed to.* He really CAN sing. Not worse than any other artist in the industry these days. In fact, his rapping in the song LIVE in 2008 sounds exactly as the original. (look it up it's here on YT) So, *someone* came up with the idea, produced those songs, someone agreed to sing backstage, *used them* ON stage and made just as much (if not more) money on it/them. Shame that they got all the blame & the rest got away with it. ~ We adored them regardless. Either way, the looks, the show, the way they were on the stage, the videoclips, whether they sang or not, don't forget THEY were Nr.1 worldwide! x
Thanks fab for being alive. You endured the hard times well...😢
Fab still looks great!! This story is so sad for all the innocents involved. I remember as a teen watching the scandal and being so upset that Rob and Fab were being targeted when it was the producers who were to blame. Every time the music industry did this sort of thing to talented singers I got angry, but it was not the “facade” people’s fault and unfortunately they’d get all the punches, as Fab said. I’m just glad he stayed strong though all of it. Poor Rob!! 😭
but can you twerk ?
R.I.P My Dear Brother. I LOVE YOU BOTH ENDLESSLY. The both of you you will forever be in my heart. Thank You.🇨🇦😇😇❤❤❤❤❤😇😇🇨🇦
Fab you are an inspiration for many 👍🏼 Keep up with your work 💪🏻
Rob was not just dealing with neglect from the industry, he was also dealing with his family disowning him. I am sure that left Rob feeling completely alone. So sad he could not find a way through the worst kind of rejection. He was actually a very good person. Not many people know he grew up in Germany as the only black student who was bullied all the time.
He was beautiful
@@brendadrumm9451 he was. 😊
They were young, poor and naive. Manipulated by a corporate cannibal. Forgive them.
RIP Rob 😢 their music is now legendary if he had just held on. 😘❤️
Wow!! He still looks the same!!! Ageless
disha lover Black don't crack, as they say.
Iggy Montpellier the truth 😄
Iggy Montpellier well...Oprah
disha lover is this a cheap way for the john's to reply. wow
He looks better!
Still super sad, reminds me of the Pussycat Dolls. People don't know the pressure or the lack of control the artists have. Like in PCD, the other girls didn't sing, it wasn't cuz they didn't want to, they weren't allowed to and they were under contract, and regardless, if these powerful industry people tell you you're not gonna sing but you will be a worldwide success are you gonna say no and now risk getting black balled while they find another who will play the game or do you stick it out until you hopefully become powerful enough to take control without fear of being shut out?
***** your language is appalling. your parents would be ashamed of you.
Well that's good you have good parents but im sure you have a greater use of words than you have used here !
***** Agreed and you are an intelligent man that can use other words to show how you feel ! Happy Saturday and no hard feelings :)
MadMaxxieXD What was really sad about PCD is that the girl weren't even a "group", they were actually salaried employees of Interscope to be in that band. Shame, because they all could sing (maybe some better than others) but they could've been a legitimate vocal group had they been allowed to.
I don't condone what they did but think about it, you're poor, broke, Homeless living in The UK Equivalent of a Subway Station called The Tubes where alot of Runaways Live and then someone tells you they can make you a Star, flash Dollar Signs in front of you and turn every dream you have into a reality. You're so desperate that you'll do it, and then you realize you sold your soul to The Devil. Fab knows he'll never be successful and famous like he was back in the day yet he was able to try to get his life back together unlike Rob.
laminage
I agree 100%
laminage They really didn’t have a choice. They signed a contract that they could barely read and by the time they understood it, they couldn’t do anything about it. The sad thing is that they could actually sing
Bruh, you should be selling that secret to how you look like you're still in your late twenties. You'd be sitting on millions in a week's time---and looking at Amsterdam from a rearview mirror.
The secret is melanin.
For real! He looks damn good!
How old so he?
That's story makes me cry you are a strong man Fab
Very strong indeed,pity his strength never rub off on his friend
Fab is an absolute legend and true hero. When you fall down you pick yourself back up and carry on. Don't let the nonsense around you disturb you own life..not many people have his awesome mindset.. My hero!!!
I'm really happy for Fab. So glad he made it through the hard times.
I supported them still. It was a great album, they were great dancers.
Basically, these guys were young and didnt know much so they signed a contract that they couldnt back out of. They were the image of Milli Vanilli and guys like John Davis were guys that were into their 40s and lent their vocals to these songs.
when I first arrived in LA I was working out at a gym and out of nowhere this guy approaches me and starts talking to me. He humbly talked about his life as a singer and his passion for what he does. As he's speaking I suddenly realize he looks extremely familiar but couldn't point it out. Before leaving he gave me his info and told me to come watch him sing. A couple of hours later it hit me, it was Fab from Milli Vanilli. Small world...
Did you meet him after that? That was good, i wish I could talk with fab, he seems to be a very good human being.
Luis 10 no, I never went to watch him play but during that conversation it was clear he is a very soft spoken, lovely, sensitive soul. I could feel he had been through hardships in his life but hadn’t given up on his dreams which I really respect. I hope he is well 🙏🌈
Daaaang. Thats all I gotta say. I didnt know Rob did that to myself. That is soo heart breaking. Everybody loved Milli Vanilli that's for sure.
Very touching and intelligent words, he expressed so clear and direct
I've felt the same way as he did, it's very inspiring what he says, he spoke with his heart and that's what he reflects on the words he said.
Good vibes to him and to the soul of ROB
He looks so good, I wish they would have just used him (real voice) back in the day.
+Connie .....Exactly.....He has a wonderful voice.
He's Gorgeous!
My, he's handsome!
IKR he is so fine!
wow I never thought I could find Milli Vanilli to be inspirational. I like his faith and determination. God bless!
Two young men struggling to achieve some sort of success are offered the chance of a life time. It's understandable that these two seized the opportunity. The shame lies more with the fans for their obsession with style and image over substance and talent.
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Rob and Fab will always be Milli Vanilli to me. Fab is fabulous. RIP Rob.
Damn! He aged well :-D
Rob & Fabs energy and presence were vital to Milli Vanilli’s success. They have a massive legacy and Fab should be immensely proud of the heights they reached. Rest in peace Rob Pilatus you left a legacy and your name is no longer associated with shame.
Eran maravillosos Milli Vanilli inigualables nadie los podrá olvidar gracias por todo su legado saludos a todas las Naciones del mundo entero sami 🇲🇽
It's very sad that now almost all popular artists use auto tune and lip sync in their live shows and they don't receive even 1% of the hate that Milli Vanilli received back then
That’s not the same as using another person voice and claiming it as your own. Nobody cares that they lip sync
What a beautiful man
Proud of you Fab, stay strong i grew up with your music in the 80s
These guys were unique and cool as hell back in the late 80's. Everybody afterwards sampled the crap out of that drum pattern in "Girl, You know it's True". It seemed that everyday black men - especially the "B-boyz" I went to school with verbally clowned them mercilessly during their rise and peak of their fame. I think they were jealous because women of all colors LOVED Milli Vanilli. The press/media had a field day when the big secret finally came out. While other people found it amusingly funny, I didn't. I didn't care. As performers, they were the total package. Sometimes I wonder if Frank Farian ever at that time considered what it would have done to the duo if he ever opened his mouth.
+Walter Harris You're damn right women of all colors loved Mili Vanilli! My mom was one of them. As such, I grew up loving them, regardless of the "scandal".
The drums are actually from Ashley's Roachclip by The Soul Searchers. Same ones on Eric B & Rakim's Paid In Full.
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What's o?
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2:06 After hearing his singing voice, it's easy to see why they were lip-syncing back in the day.....
Jeffrey Fairfield Heh. For sure.
At least he didn't blame it on the rain.
(Ba dum tssss)
You are awesome for that. Ahahahah!
Haha that was.. that was.. that was.. that was funny
😂😂😂❤
OK! I giggled 🤭
Wait but he can sing tho ...
Toya Daniels They did an album with their real voices that didn't go anywhere, but it was cool.
+Toya Daniels Ehh, kinda
Hell naw he can't stop reaching BIH
Dillon Cardiel I am so confused by folk saying that he can sing. He clearly cannot. But, then again so many folk out nowadays can’t so, more power to him.
Moni Cohn well actually he has a really good singing voice
God bless them both ❤️❤️
I loved the songs growing up , it's sad that they were treated and bullied . RIP 💖🇦🇺
he still looks good!!
THIS IS SO SAD
RIP ROB
David Baker YES BRO
You are a great source of inspiration, encouragement, strength.i love you ❤❤❤❤❤
Milli Vanill, did try modeling before getting into the music business but they were told they were too short
I'm sorry that they went through so much pain.
He looks like Damon wayans son.
True lol
breanna S He looks like a Jackson Lol
Good honest guy and great performer EVEN WITHOUT the voice
what happen to those two guys were terrible, people need to understand that there are people in the position of power or authority can damage other people lives over greed , ignorance, narrow minded thinking. I sense that he can sing but unfortunately I feel that he will never get back to the status he once was but he loves to sing and that will last forever. the sad thing is that these musicians today are singing through auto tune which hides there true voice which in terms is lip syncing through high technology so in some ways these singers today are doing the same thing milli vanilli did back in the day.
Vc canta melhor que o original porquê mentiram? 🇧🇷🙌✌👍👏👏👏👏
I will love you always Milli Vanilli ❤️❤️❤️
Really sad, but you guys rocked and still remembered but betrayal is part n parcel of life , never know what's right in the corner.
Best wishes to you, miss pilatus.
I still like Milli Vanilli
I've been invested in the story of Milli Vanilli for years. Their story inspired me to get back up at my feet.
Merci Seb j'ai découvert une histoire intrigante grace a toi, si tu passe par là...
C’est triste en vraiiiiii
@@ENDERSTYLE74 Oui mais ce monsieur a rebondi !
Leur histoire ferait une bonne adaptation cinématographique moi je vous le dis!
Good for you bro. I still listen to your music!
Imagine if the internet back then was functioning the way it was today. They would have been hammered much more
ALWAYS LOVED U GUYS! YUR STAGE PRESENCE WAS SIMPLY AWESOME!! & AFTER THE SCANDAL I REMEMBER U GUYS WERE GUESTS ON ARSENIO HALL & AS HE HAD RIGHTLY NOTED U GUYS SOUNDED JUST GREAT SINGING IN YUR O.W.N. VOICES!
R.I.P. ROB
this needs to be a movie
They were and are amazing people and they definitely didn’t deserve what happened to them. I’m happy Fab can just do what he wants to do. He has finally found his happiness
Nicki's rap in the song Transformer brought me here, but this story is so sad. One of them died too, oh this is sad. Some Artist in this Era are doing the same thing. Sad!
Continue doing your thing!!!! We love you.
He looks like Tommy Davidson
Well, Tommy was adopted. You never know..
Cherish G He really does lmao
Cherish G he sounds similar aswell
Cherish G LOOKS like him, and I thought back then SOUNDED like him, too. In Girl You Know it’s True the rap he lip synched sounded to me like Tommy Davidson was on the mic.
Cherish G He looks like my son. Or vice versa because he's much older...lol
I still love their music.
I don't care if wasn't their real voice
I still like them
They are real that's what really counts
I don’t care that they didn’t sing the songs. I loved the songs they lip synced.
God bless these guys
"Girl You Know It's True" is 30 years old this month! I did an interview with Milli Vanilli's Fab Morvan, which you can see on my channel now. Enjoy!
write me for the true scoop. djtruflava@gmail.com
Gotta admit though, Milli Vanilli was a good hustle
Falls Finest The real voices were way more masculine. Combine that with the looks on the dudes and BOOM. Great package to sell. But I do gotta say that Rob and Fab knew how to dance.
Love you Fab , Love you Rob......forever