M2 Mac Studio VS M2 Mac mini - DON'T BE FOOLED!

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  • Опубликовано: 17 июн 2023
  • Apple now has a big range of desktop computers designed for the pro audience not only with the new M2 Max Mac Studio and M2 Pro, but also with the M2 Pro Mac mini which was released half a year ago. However, with the introduction of the M2 Max Mac Studio... is the M2 pro Mac mini now obsolete and why is Apple selling a Mac mini version that's priced higher than the Mac Studio?
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  • @MrJamidon
    @MrJamidon 11 месяцев назад +255

    Thank you for being the first RUclipsr who compared the base models of these machines. Everyone else is comparing the fully loaded versions, and I'm never going to be able to afford those kind of machines. This is exactly what I was looking for, great job.

    • @DavidRiano95
      @DavidRiano95 11 месяцев назад +4

      He didn't compared exactly the base models because the mini was upgraded both in ram and storage and that actually impacts how the softwares utilize resources.
      The Mac mini he is comparing even has two more thunderbolt USB-C ports that the base model.

    • @ront335
      @ront335 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@DavidRiano95 Yes he did compare two base models. He compared the base Mac Studio to the base model Mac Mini Pro, not the base model Mac Mini.

    • @Evie0133
      @Evie0133 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@DavidRiano95 The base M2 Pro Mac Mini has 16GB of RAM, 512GB of SSD and 4 Thunderbolt ports, what are you talking about lol

    • @apocolypse11
      @apocolypse11 9 месяцев назад +2

      Poor people always complaining instead of working.

    • @beefwantko7269
      @beefwantko7269 8 месяцев назад

      thank this idiot for highly misleading the people watching his channel.. One of these are the "BASE MODEL" they are in fact the top tier model just with out the extra storage which cost an arm and a leg... thats like saying the Iphone 15 pro, and Iphone 15 pro max are the base models.. the only thing basic about these are the storage. The real base model of the Mac Mini is $599... thats over twice as cheap as what you are claiming. and the base model of the Mac studio is in fact 1999 dollars. so your compairing the Best Mac mini too the worst Mac studio.. and Just FYI if your thinking about getting a Mac dont forget that the monitor they sell for these is 1300 dollars... more then a current Imac.. do yourself a favor if yoru going to buy a mac mini.. and buy last gens Imac that still has the intell chip in it and the dedicated graphcis card its faster, cheaper and includes a monitor a good one at that.. the New colorfull ones are essentially Large Ipads on stands.. same processor in them check it out... its sad they got rid of the real Imacs.. becase now they can pull this BS and charge 1300 dollars for their base monitor.. and I think the Pro monitor is over 5000 dollars.

  • @bitMAN
    @bitMAN 8 месяцев назад +16

    This is an amazing comparison. You make the differences and use cases very clear with no added noise to the key points. Oh man, I wish all video comparisons where like this 😌

  • @dejavuking
    @dejavuking 11 месяцев назад +28

    Omg thank you gosh finally someone has done this comparison. Arguably the most important comparison for 99% of people. Loads of channels have compared the two but not both base specs, they all have upgraded SSD or ram. So this is going to be the best video I think and it’s from someone reliable to this is going to be my premier advice video and the one I’ll recommend to everyone.

  • @regularsteven
    @regularsteven 11 месяцев назад +35

    Great summary - before the M2 Studio came out, I was seriously torn between the full-spec Mini Pro and M1 Studio Max. But, as you point out, this is now a no-brainer. I've got the M2 Studio Max (base model), and this thing has so much grunt. The reviews everywhere on full-spec Studio Ultra's are just not real-world for most people. The challenge for me, now, as a programmer, is to try figure out what code I can abstract out to leverage the GPU cores rather than CPU. Fun times :) EDIT: Studio ALSO has support for more monitors, too. Just another little thing that could be a big thing if you need it...

    • @siddantsharma3681
      @siddantsharma3681 8 месяцев назад +1

      is mac studio good for atmos mixing mastering??

    • @ridinglow6732
      @ridinglow6732 7 месяцев назад

      @@siddantsharma3681most definitely

  • @northridgeanimalmedicalcen3987
    @northridgeanimalmedicalcen3987 7 месяцев назад +3

    Your work just makes so much sense... getting to the core issues in a clear, concise manner. THANK YOU

  • @corikomiyama7492
    @corikomiyama7492 9 месяцев назад +7

    Thank you for this! I have been looking at the Macbook Air vs Mac Mini (I have an intel Macbook Pro right now) and the whole "keeping it in clamshell mode" while hooked up to an external monitor totally hit me lol. This helped to me to see that I haven't even considered the Mac Studio. Without this video I probably would have upgraded my memory and storage on the Mac Mini not even realizing I'd get a way better value with the Studio! Thank you so much!

  • @FoxxFire
    @FoxxFire 11 месяцев назад +61

    Just want to mention, this has been the most helpful video comparing directly the three exact system configs I'm considering. Having these benchmarks between the exact variants I'm looking at -- i haven't seen that anywhere else. Thank you Sheriff Gadget :)

    • @GregsGadgets
      @GregsGadgets  11 месяцев назад +5

      Howdy 🤠 I mean… you’re welcome

    • @k.o.t.o.n.
      @k.o.t.o.n. 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@GregsGadgets hy. here the mini base is 300 thousand forints, studio base 980 thousand forints.

    • @theociba3762
      @theociba3762 4 месяца назад

      You and me both...I am literally looking these two platforms with different configs. all week. The ultra is too much horsepower for me, but the mini as mentioned with 16GB is ideal for a business profesional and academic. Thanks for putting this together !

    • @gearsgamer7115
      @gearsgamer7115 День назад

      ​@@theociba3762it's too expensive.

  • @stevens6654
    @stevens6654 9 месяцев назад +9

    Good summary. Another comparison is more difficult to estimate - the price of future-proofing. It's a good idea to factor in the long-term usability of your computer. I was able to significantly increase the value of my gear by increasing the RAM to well above the minimum, and getting storage that anticipated my potential use. Beginning with a "base" model may not be your best choice.

  • @gouhlgambit6296
    @gouhlgambit6296 9 месяцев назад +10

    I have been weighing this choice up for ages now , so thanks in your video. Lots of good points. I think I’m still siding with the mini, 32 gb ram and 1tb ssd, but with the 10 core chip. I’m coming from a 2018 i7 Mac mini so the performance is literally double. I would rather prioritise read/write speed with the SSD and up the ram. I’m using this for music production exclusively so the added GpU cores of the studio don’t really give me much value, the extra ports on the front would be largely unused. So I can’t really see any extra value to going for the studio model this time.

  • @outerusing
    @outerusing 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for sharing, this is exactly the kind of comparison I was looking for!!

  • @gfabasic
    @gfabasic 11 месяцев назад +10

    Was looking at the Mac Mini Pro until Apple dropped the M2 Mac Studio. Ended up getting the base model M2 Mac Studio for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I also need the SD card reader so adding that on factored into it as well.

  • @vintage0x
    @vintage0x 11 месяцев назад +27

    2:27 wo0o0o0oah man said "reLEVAtion"

    • @exavion3364
      @exavion3364 3 месяца назад +3

      😂😂😂😂😂 thought I was the only one who noticed this

    • @gerardowmby7156
      @gerardowmby7156 2 месяца назад

      @@exavion3364 He was thinking "relative" comparison.

    • @riddym3197
      @riddym3197 Месяц назад

      looool that threw me off - a little easter egg there

  • @speedee7508
    @speedee7508 10 месяцев назад

    You presented the info very logically. Great video!

  • @HomesickMac
    @HomesickMac 8 месяцев назад +2

    Great video Greg! I'm defo waiting for the next Apple event to see which Mac I'll be upgrading to from my trusty M1 Mini from 2020. It still serves me well, but I'd need that GPU for the video workflow of editing and exporting. It's going to be a Mac Studio if I decide for the stationery, but I'm also considering going over to doing everything from a laptop. I used to do it before and my last laptop was a MacBook Pro Intel 2018, totally maxed out but still left in the dust by the M1 mini..

  • @Greg-bu7mi
    @Greg-bu7mi 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you! Great comparison on value vs price. Information was straight forward and easily understood

  • @mgjansen777
    @mgjansen777 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks exactly the information I needed!

  • @AmauryJacquot
    @AmauryJacquot 10 месяцев назад +7

    there is one parameter that may make the mac mini preferable: you can fit 2 of those mac minis in a 1U rack, whereas you need 3U for the mac studio. that may be important in some settings (say in video trucks) where volume is at a premium

  • @MartinLutherMcCoy
    @MartinLutherMcCoy 11 месяцев назад +2

    I went with the mini. Maxed out. I wish I had the maxed out studio but I’m glad I have kept my additional 3k$ and I haven’t seen a pinwheel since. Nuff yappin’ now get busy and make something ✊🏾

  • @howanblaze
    @howanblaze 11 месяцев назад

    Love the explanation, and breaking everything down!

  • @FireMunki63
    @FireMunki63 25 дней назад

    Great Video, I was looking at the option of a maxed out version of MacMini M2 Pro before realizing like you that why not the Studio with the 30 Cores? Makes so much sense.

  • @joelchalk597
    @joelchalk597 29 дней назад

    The examples for this comparison were great! Very important for video editors to understand how fast their exporting takes.

  • @ruzaroos
    @ruzaroos 11 месяцев назад +118

    Only get the base model and let your RAM requirements dictate your choice of SKU. 8GB enough, get the base Mini. You need 16GB, get the Mini Pro. You need 32GB, get the Studio. You need 64GB, get the Studio Ultra. If you need more than 64GB, you can afford to upgrade the Studio Ultra.

    • @Rotwold
      @Rotwold 9 месяцев назад +15

      PSA: If you want to use it for work and future proof the machine (>4 years) - pick a model with a minimum of 16GB ram. It doesn't matter how fancy the OSX memory management is, having more capacity is always beneficial to the machines performance.
      Being limited by memory capacity will result in crashes, freezes and a bad experience.

    • @sierpus
      @sierpus 6 месяцев назад +2

      I don’t need more power, so I’m taking mini with 16GB, not mini pro.

    • @briancharamuga2907
      @briancharamuga2907 5 месяцев назад +6

      8GB is not enough. Excessive swapping eventually kills your SSD.

    • @inspiredartphotos
      @inspiredartphotos 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@briancharamuga2907you are so right my IMac Pro is starting to give out of memory messages. It came with a 1TB drive and 32GB of Physical RAM. The problem is constant memory swaps has degraded the SSD Drive. I keep archiving and running minimal items on the internal SSD drive. I am really tired of sealed cases and soldered on drives. Great point you brought up.

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@inspiredartphotosI forgot iMac Pros existed. Have you tried workarounds?

  • @TijuanaJackson
    @TijuanaJackson 3 месяца назад

    Great video. Appreciate your perspective.

  • @Imagineyourmusiccom
    @Imagineyourmusiccom 11 месяцев назад +1

    thank you very much for this review, so what would you recommend for music composition with a lot of orchestral VST instruments?

  • @DerekZimmer
    @DerekZimmer 10 месяцев назад

    Great analysis as usual!

  • @jeffhale1189
    @jeffhale1189 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for sharing: very helpful. Blessings on your day!

  • @Glen.Danielsen
    @Glen.Danielsen 11 месяцев назад

    Greg, so happy I ran across your excellent channel! Thankful new subscriber here. Coolness and helpfulness. Salutes good brother! 🫡

  • @bigpix
    @bigpix 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this very informative video. When you take the M3 chip into account, like on the new iMacs, is it still better to get the M2 chip on these for video editing? Also, what display(s) would you recommend? Thanks!

  • @jpwministries
    @jpwministries 7 дней назад

    excellent video; I am hoping that I can get a Mac Studio soon to edit my videos. Right now I am doing the editing with my phone, but if I am going to eventually do 4K videos, I need to step it up when it comes to my equipment. Great video.

  • @InFamousProductions
    @InFamousProductions 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for making this vid. I have a iMac pro max out that has been great since it came out, but is definitely showing its age and I’m kind of hanging on for the next iMac Pro to see what it’s gonna be like but into max does look like a really kick ass machine.

  • @bassyboii
    @bassyboii 10 месяцев назад +3

    Just picked up a base mac studio and it is insane. Coming from a very powerful i7 27” iMac with 40gb of ram, the studio is a hefty upgrade in terms of performance.

  • @buddyclements8457
    @buddyclements8457 8 месяцев назад

    Hey! Thank YOU! Super informative! Great suggestions too! You’ve helped me decide! Mac Studio for me and my music studio!

  • @enriqueruiz4751
    @enriqueruiz4751 11 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome presentation thanks

  • @steven871
    @steven871 10 месяцев назад

    Great video , Greg. Keep it up. For the occasional user / weekend photo and video hobbiest, which M1 or M2 small desktop is the best value compromise? I'm talking processing hundreds of Raws and a hundreds of 60 second 4k clips 20 weekends a year?

    • @techtravelpanda
      @techtravelpanda 10 месяцев назад

      Studio M2 base model. If it is too much, 32gb M2 Mac Mini Pro

  • @bryans8656
    @bryans8656 11 месяцев назад +28

    The M2 Pro Mac mini wasn't an option when I purchased my base model M1 Studio Max last year. Had it been the money savings would have been very tempting, but I'm glad I went with the Studio for all the reasons you cited in this video.

    • @emilsecker7881
      @emilsecker7881 11 месяцев назад +2

      What do you use the studio for? How are you dealing with 512GB of storage?

    • @bryans8656
      @bryans8656 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@emilsecker7881 I use it mostly for video editing, image editing, typical prosumer usage, in addition to the usual day-to-day stuff. It's more than I really need but I like having the additional overhead. 512GB of storage has been plenty because I have it connected to a 2TB NAS.

    • @emilsecker7881
      @emilsecker7881 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@bryans8656 gotcha. Nice

    • @c0rnd0g_19
      @c0rnd0g_19 11 месяцев назад +3

      Same here. I had a 16GB M1 Mini and needed more RAM as well as native support for 3 displays. I was hoping for an M1 Pro Mini, but the Studio came out instead. I don't regret buying it one bit, this thing has been an absolute beast!

    • @6806goats1
      @6806goats1 10 месяцев назад +1

      Same here. My 2018 Intel i7 mini did what I needed but I wanted more ports than the M1 mini. Lost my mind and no need at present to buy a Studio Ultra but I did anyway. Refurbished M1 Ultra base model (64Gb ram, 1 Tb SSD), military/student discount kind thing. When they came out with the M2 Ultra it was like don't bother, I'm covered for a very long time. Refurb Studio display with the fancy covering but found it with the VESA no stand option. Should fit inside my roll top desk when I get it back to the house. I work overseas, maybe another year or so.

  • @Momdoc
    @Momdoc 10 месяцев назад +1

    Agree 💯 %. I was between studio and Mac mini upgraded version. It’s frustrating, the price was the same. Thank God I decided to spend £200 more and buy base M2 max studio with storage upgrade only. I am happy.

  • @ApicalTrades
    @ApicalTrades 4 месяца назад

    Thank you so much. I cleared a lot of cloud. I am waiting for Mac Studio M3 to come out and will definitely want to see your thoughts on that before I make a purchase.

  • @alistairmcelwee7467
    @alistairmcelwee7467 8 месяцев назад +1

    I bought one of each this week. Studio mine, Mini is other half. I came to same conclusion as you've done but still experimenting with them. Thanks for exactly the video I needed!

  • @mattbosley3531
    @mattbosley3531 11 месяцев назад +9

    I do not understand why, in a computer with 32GB of memory and an M2 Max processor, Apple handicaps it with a half speed SSD. You still have to pay $200 to upgrade to 1TB if you want decent speed from your storage in the Mac Studio.

  • @transitengineer
    @transitengineer 11 месяцев назад +4

    A big thank you, for this video comparison between the base model M-2 "mac mini" Pro and the base model M-2 "Mac Studio". I agree with almost 100 percent of your comments. While, the "Mac Studio" is better in performance in every way. I still prefer the smaller "mac mini" Pro profile, design, and looks. For my current desktop set-up using a 2010, Apple 27-inch Cinema LED (none thunderbolt) display. My 2014, space gray "trash can" Mac Pro sits neatly behind the monitor and my 2010, "mac mini" (the last model with a built-in DVD super-drive) fits neatly under my monitor. Once Apple added the four thunderbolt four (4) ports to the "mac mini" Pro, it became the only M-2 desktop for my future needs (smile...smile).

  • @laurentsauvagnac
    @laurentsauvagnac 6 месяцев назад +1

    this desk that you got !!!! do you by chance have any link to the headphone woodlike "hanger" and the small "table" under your screen ? thx !!

  • @tvpstvps5785
    @tvpstvps5785 11 месяцев назад +7

    Did you say “relevation” - that’s definitely stuck in my head now

  • @bennym1956
    @bennym1956 11 месяцев назад +3

    I use my Macs til they die then upgrade. Currently,my 2017 27" Intel iMac is still fine for my needs. Was considering the M2 Mac Mini, but see your point. I like to game so the M2 Mac Studio is making more sense and possible longevity ! Was hoping for a new M2-3 27" iMac !!

  • @crxgator
    @crxgator 11 месяцев назад +6

    Yeah, I picked up my M2 Pro Mini the other month with the educator's discount, and I'm kind of like meh. It's been wonderful considering that I was on a late 2013 27" iMac for the past 9 years. But, now I feel like I should've went with the base studio. Plus mine seems to be very loud when having Lightroom open, and music playing. I filled out the survey for Apple about, and have yet to hear back from them on why my computer is so loud with just those two programs open.

    • @theociba3762
      @theociba3762 4 месяца назад

      Good input - I too have the 27" from 2013 and it's crawling. I was going to get the m2 w/16 and was concerned about the same, although I won't be pushing it other then drone videos and marketing papers & Microsoft 365. The only concern I have is I won't have a monitor for the Studio or something similar.

  • @robertrea8829
    @robertrea8829 10 месяцев назад

    Hello, great vids. One question. What specs should a nonvideo editing user get for a mac mini?

  • @gerardowmby7156
    @gerardowmby7156 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for this! I'm getting the Studio.

  • @josephcarrasco3428
    @josephcarrasco3428 11 месяцев назад +1

    Can you do base M2 mini vs the new M2 studio? I’d love to see if there’s actually a huge difference between those 2 & if it’s worth the upgrade

  • @mcdazz2011
    @mcdazz2011 11 месяцев назад +3

    Great video. Given the almost entry level specs of the M2 Mac Mini, particularly so in relation to only having 8GB of RAM, I'm really struggling to understand why anyone would be interested in even an up-spec'd version of the M2 Mac Mini.
    Price wise, It's actually embarrassing because the value is not there compared to the M2 Mac Studio.

  • @gospelaccordingtojohn8959
    @gospelaccordingtojohn8959 11 месяцев назад +4

    I came to the same conclusion when deciding between these two machines. I would even suggest adding 64GBs in ram for future proofing if you are running pro apps.

  • @thirdrockjul2224
    @thirdrockjul2224 4 месяца назад

    Great info! 👍

  • @Coachrupertwilson
    @Coachrupertwilson 8 месяцев назад

    Great review that cuts the crap. I think for making basic videos and having a cooked out mac book pro maybe people might like the mini for budgets. But i love your review and feel the studio might be better option...
    What if you want to upgrade either at later date? Is it possible on both or just bigger one?

  • @fishyeggs689
    @fishyeggs689 11 месяцев назад +5

    The only thing that makes sense to me is that the maxed out Mac Mini configuration only exists to entice buyers to get the base Studio instead. It's like Apple is saying, "sure, you can max the Mini out, but why?" 🤔

  • @torb-no
    @torb-no 11 месяцев назад +31

    I went with the base M2 Pro mini, but upgraded the ram to 32GB. I simply don’t need more than that. It’s still cheaper than the base Studio, and with the ridicilous Apple prices in Norway every little bit makes a difference.
    I also really appreciate the smaller physical size. Makes it easier to handle and turn plug the monitor (I often switch my monitor betwen my mini for home usage and macbook for work.)
    In a sense I think Apple kinda charged a high premium for high-ish specs in smaller packages.

    • @transitengineer
      @transitengineer 11 месяцев назад +3

      Well, you may be right. Because, for my needs if the base M-2 "mac mini" came with four (4) thunderbolt ports, I might be looking to buy that model instead of the M-2 "mac mini" Pro version (smile...smile).

    • @randommiker
      @randommiker 11 месяцев назад +4

      I've never needed more than 8GB of system memory with the M1 even with loads of plug-ins using Logic Pro X. This largely due to how efficient and fast the memory is as unified system compared to a traditional motherboard. This would be entirely different with CGI or very GPU demanding applications in which your average Apple user doesn't even know what that means outside of "gaming". The reality is that most Apple users are completely ignorant to what really makes a computer a complete workstation all-around in which Apple has yet to provide due the companies lack of native applications that actually benefit from GPU acceleration. Personally, i love Mac but only for audio work, at least for now.

    • @johnh383
      @johnh383 10 месяцев назад +1

      Get a PC and feel like you didnt get ripped off!

    • @torb-no
      @torb-no 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@johnh383 I grew up on non-Apple PCs and I've given it more than my share of chances and the UI of the operating systems generally drive me up a wall.
      Additionally the kind of computer I want would typically make the kind of tradeoffs Apple make anyway. I want something small, I want something quiet, I dont' need the most graphics performance (but I do need good single perf CPU).
      As for value, I think the Mac mini specifically is fairly good value actually (this is backed up by other reviews as well), it's more when you get into Mac Studio or you need graphics performance the value proposition falls apart.
      That said, I *am* looking to get a PC specifically for gaming, but since I don't want a big tower PC but something more compact yet still powerful enough for gaming that's probably going to be kinda expensive too (which is why I'll probably have to save up for a long time).

    • @mmjay7078
      @mmjay7078 10 месяцев назад +4

      ⁠@@johnh383Until your pc takes a crap and you find out you really did😂😂

  • @biancanera
    @biancanera 11 месяцев назад

    I watch this on my 2011 iMac still working. What do you think about upgrade for Mac studio?

  • @onlyarturo
    @onlyarturo 11 месяцев назад

    Great video ! Thanks

  • @YoutubeToofanPubg
    @YoutubeToofanPubg 8 месяцев назад

    Which is better for gaming the Mac mini m2 pro vs Mac studio m2 max like heavy gaming please reply please 🙏

  • @jb3cayman
    @jb3cayman 7 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent analysis, Greg. Although I don't do any demanding video or audio work on my 2017 5K iMac, I intend to purchase the $2,000 M3 Max Mac Studio (base model) when it comes out. But why, you ask. Because of the enhanced GPU performance, ray tracing, etc. My grandkids love gaming. Am I correct in thinking that games will look MUCH better with the M3 processor and that the more GPU cores I have, the better it will look? Thanks again for your youtube channel--you are my favorite Mac expert! 🙏

  • @JimboHutch
    @JimboHutch 2 месяца назад

    Ran into the same cost comparison when going through the build options to compare, and it feels like an oversight when the performance of a maxed out 32GB of RAM mini is outshined by the cheaper base studio option with the buff in GPU specs. Would be great to see some comparisons in a few Adobe apps too.

  • @lah_deza
    @lah_deza 2 месяца назад +1

    Interior designer here trying to figure out if I should get the mac mini or studio. I would need to use Sketchup, Cad, Adobe, and film editing software's. Which one should I get?

  • @jmcampbell
    @jmcampbell 11 месяцев назад +19

    0:38 I like the Mac Mini on top of the Mac Studio. They look cool together. I wonder if you could connect them together somehow to increase performance. Would this be called the Big Mac 😅

    • @NeoAiR
      @NeoAiR 11 месяцев назад +1

      Lool

    • @MarknSydney
      @MarknSydney 11 месяцев назад +2

      only if you put 2 all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, pickles, and onion between them. LOL

    • @Worthfishing
      @Worthfishing 6 месяцев назад +1

      Just get the ultra and you’ll end up with a whopper.😂😂😂

  • @snoopaka
    @snoopaka 11 месяцев назад

    You convinced me to get the Studio. Thanks

  • @papa.mike01
    @papa.mike01 9 месяцев назад

    Wow, so glad I watched this one Greg. I almost bought the mini with some upgrades without realizing the Studio was a better value for price vs price.

  • @abrock6215
    @abrock6215 11 месяцев назад +6

    I would chose the Studio M2 Max with 64 GB or Ram and a 1TB SSD for the type of work I would use it for.

  • @davewalker5706
    @davewalker5706 2 месяца назад

    I will be going for the base M3 Studio this year, with upgrade to 1TB SSD, and the 27" display, hope they come out with the space black option

  • @MrBombell
    @MrBombell 10 месяцев назад

    Great video, that's what i was looking for, an ideal explenation for a dumb. Will defo go for a Mac Studio, just upgraded SSD storage to 1TB, sure, price up, but the hell... Thanks man !

  • @Smittron
    @Smittron 11 месяцев назад +6

    The push to purchase models with more cores, RAM, storage, ports, etc. has been made so easy by Apple with the current Mac lineup. For example, I sent a friend to the Apple store to buy a $599 M2 Mac mini and he left with a $3,599 Mac Studio.

    • @derSTEFstef
      @derSTEFstef 3 месяца назад

      Omg if he actually just needed the M2 Mac he got scammed reeeeeeally bad holy hell

  • @nelsonngu
    @nelsonngu 11 месяцев назад

    I am stuck at a point I don't even know I should get Mac Studio base model or not. I am still rocking my iMac 2020 model with max out GPU, 40GB ram running boot camp with 5k Display with an external 1440p 165hz Acer display. Gaming on iMac 2020 on bootcamp still not too bad but when it comes to editing 10-20mins videos on MacOS, I started to see the hiccups, the lag more and more frequently on FCPX, Photoshops and lightroom.

  • @deonlee7353
    @deonlee7353 4 месяца назад +1

    Is the fan on the Studio louder than on the mini?

  • @johnhjic2
    @johnhjic2 11 месяцев назад

    Hi, On all honesty I am find it so hard to choose a Mac Studio or a Mac Mini to replace my old 27" 5k iMac, I am sure both would be good. Bit my thinking is a £3999 for the Mac Studio should last me longer, or go cheep and replace more often. choices?

  • @EFX-su4bu
    @EFX-su4bu 10 месяцев назад

    Ordered my Mac Studio today. Upgraded the Ram to 64 Gb and HD to 1 Tb.

  • @MannyG32968
    @MannyG32968 11 месяцев назад +2

    May be more than a crazy reason here but I like the sd card feature along with the 32GB. Works for me.

  • @Vain-Voyager
    @Vain-Voyager 11 месяцев назад +2

    True. Another value M2 Max has over M2 Pro is doubled decode engines, resulting in a faster export speed.

  • @Noisyhands
    @Noisyhands 11 месяцев назад +3

    It’s a lot harder to rack-mount a Studio into a 1U chassis than a Mini. I can see where if someone wanted similar performance as a Studio but couldn’t integrate a Studio into their workstation due to its size, they would go for the spec’d out Mini.

    • @barkmonster
      @barkmonster 8 месяцев назад

      Sonnet make a very disappointing and expensive rackmount for the Mac Studio that has less features than the 2U version they do for the Mac Mini. It’s an option but massively overpriced by any standards.

  • @carboncarbonx43
    @carboncarbonx43 25 дней назад +1

    I chose the Mac Mini M2 Pro w 32GB ram because of its wonderful small form factor. I regularly render large batches of video with FCP-X and have no problems at all. Scrubbing with reckless abandon is so satisfying.

  • @TheCashman007
    @TheCashman007 5 месяцев назад

    which one is better for a hot environment ?

  • @spiritfilledstudy
    @spiritfilledstudy 10 месяцев назад

    Do you have an entry level m2 mac mini vs the m2 pro mac mini? Would be curious if the media engine allows it to hold up for video editing.

  • @BubbaPat
    @BubbaPat 4 месяца назад

    I always love your vids. I currently have a MacMini Intel and have been debating on Mini or Studio for my next purchase. I've played around with the configurations and agree with you. By the time you upgrade, you're loosing out on the GPU. I too wish Apple would lower the cost of the Mini. Also, when it comes to ports, the Studio calls my name. I do wish that someone like Stachi or Qwizlab would come out with a powered base that would support multiple external drives like Seagate but without the SSD reader. I had the Stachi but the Qwizlab's model allowed me to install a 2TB SSD and a 1TB NVMe and it has card readers on the front. I find their location, similar to the Studio, difficult to use.
    We'll see how this year ends. If Apple lowers the Mini, I may stick with it as I've already got hubs that help. Of course, I will keep an eye on the Studio. Who knows.
    Thanks for your videos. They always help me make informed decisions. Bubba hugs from Texas!

  • @tomm7769
    @tomm7769 4 месяца назад +1

    Why are the casings different when you can get the same stuff in both pretty much?

  • @photographerjonathan
    @photographerjonathan 3 месяца назад

    Is there a great 32 or bigger monitor to go with the Mac studio without buying an expensive Mac 32 monitor. but still really good quality. for photoshop and final cut and Logic Pro. and is there an upgrade for the Mac studio that is worth getting for my needs. thanks.

  • @low3419
    @low3419 10 месяцев назад

    Very useful information, going to Mac Studio can’t be wrong ‼️

  • @pauldarrigo4395
    @pauldarrigo4395 6 месяцев назад

    Hi How are you recording your audio for this podcast... I don't see a mic?

  • @driven01
    @driven01 3 месяца назад +1

    Coming from a MacBook Pro i9 / 32GB I thought I needed to at least match that when I upgraded. Then I borrowed my wife's M2 Air 16GB/512GB, and it runs absolute circles around my expensive workhorse.
    I do development (XCode), and a significant amount of video editing. I'm now questioning how much machine I need if I can do all of this on an M2 Air. Instead of the Studio, the M2 Pro might be fine. The only thing giving me pause is the limited number of external monitors, but for the moment, I'm just on my singular Studio Display anyway, so I might be OK.

  • @donaldmclachlan3262
    @donaldmclachlan3262 7 месяцев назад +2

    As a systems programmer I think there is an important feature of the Mac Studio you forgot to test vs the Mac Mini M2 Pro; Memory Bandwidth. I believe the Mac Studio claims 400 Gbps while the Mac Mini M2 Pro claims 200 Gbps.
    If the price was equal I would have jumped for the Mac Studio. But in Canada I was able to get the Mac Mini M2 Pro + 1 TB SSD + 10G Ethernet for $1000 less than the Mac Studio.
    Oh, and another good test to show would be - read write speed to the internal SSD vs to an external USB connected flash drive.

  • @SerPapus
    @SerPapus 11 месяцев назад +78

    The m2 max Mac Studio is such a good deal

    • @SteveDonev
      @SteveDonev 11 месяцев назад +4

      Only if you need macOS exclusive apps. For $2k you can easily build a pc that is way more powerful. The true advantage of Apple silicon is low power draw which mainly applies to laptops tablets and phones as it means incredible battery life. On desktop that advantage is almost pointless

    • @eth.n154
      @eth.n154 11 месяцев назад +13

      @@SteveDonevno you can’t lmao. You need a 3k pc to compete with the Mac m2 pro mini

    • @SteveDonev
      @SteveDonev 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@eth.n154 uh no. A ryzen 9 7900 outperforms the m2 pro by a massive margin and any gpu over a rtx 3060ti will outperform the mac’s gpu and a pc with those 2 will be around $1500. If you go up to 2k you can get a rtx 4070 which will literally run circles around the m2 pro’s gpu. The only huge win apple has is power efficiency, which who cares, it’s a desktop. It doesn’t run out of battery

    • @eth.n154
      @eth.n154 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@SteveDonev where are you finding a 4090 for under 2k ?

    • @eth.n154
      @eth.n154 11 месяцев назад

      4070*

  • @thatpovguy
    @thatpovguy 2 месяца назад

    8:59 Sweet! I was waiting for the ARM comparison and was thinking "Is he going to ignore 32 vs 16?" Nice dramatic touch! LOL. Currently using the original Mac Mini M1 (am actually a DOS/Windows guy) but do enjoy the Mac. Think I am gonna get the base Mac Studio as my photo editor!

  • @SidjEOS
    @SidjEOS 11 месяцев назад +5

    This is a really useful and timely comparison. I have been using a base model Mac mini (8Gb) since it's release.
    After watching this video I have just ordered a Mac Studio M2 Max with 64 GB of Ram and a 1TB SSD. I expect that the step up to the studio will be impressive :)
    The 10 Gbe connection will be useful connecting to a Synology 1821+
    Mac user since Apple IIe. BTW that cost about 5000 USD and had 1 MB Ram.

    • @dmrr7739
      @dmrr7739 2 месяца назад

      How did you get 1MB on your //e? Mine had 128k. Did you have a separate RAM card?

    • @SidjEOS
      @SidjEOS 2 месяца назад

      I added a ram works expansion card. I also remember the 5.25” drives were heavy and huge, physically anyway. Lunar lander text based game wasted a lot of time 😄

  • @migueldevela2917
    @migueldevela2917 11 месяцев назад

    I was set on the M2 Pro Mac Mini with 32gb until I saw your reveiw. I have not bit the bulet yet on these. That said, I 've got a SATECHI Type-C Stand & Hub with SSD Enclosure and SD card reader. Plus the M2 Pro Mac Mini can also have up to 2TB w/o paying the APPLE prices. It would be anM2 Pro Mini Studio-ish. Now is it wiser if I just get the new M2 Max Studio? Price is also a factor in this btw.
    Thanks.

  • @PaulMDiaz
    @PaulMDiaz 11 месяцев назад

    Very good video!

  • @jeffloy4638
    @jeffloy4638 Месяц назад +1

    Currently on an HP Pavilion with Ryzen 7 and 32GB RAM, which I use primarily for audio. While I imagine I could eke out similar or slightly better performance from the base Mini, I doubt it'd justify the investment, whereas the Studio would.

  • @kyleadamsdrums
    @kyleadamsdrums 5 месяцев назад

    honestly this made me decision even harder haha. thank you for the great video.

  • @grillmeister7
    @grillmeister7 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks you for a great comparison. I'm coming from a 2013 iMac and had concluded the Mac Studio was only modestly more expensive that the Mac Mini with 32GB.o

  • @wildeyestudios5
    @wildeyestudios5 7 месяцев назад

    I need something to work on premiere pro and final cut, mostly just 1080p files at 240 fps interpreted at 24 fps. GoPro files i believe it's h264 codec.
    Which mac you recommend, mac mini or studio, and which specs? I'm thinking at least the 1tb hard disk and at least 16gb ram, the rest I have no idea what to choose. I'll work just with 1 display

  • @balibong
    @balibong 11 месяцев назад +2

    Fantastic comparison Greg. Personally I think the 32gb ram in the studio really sells it. That upgrade alone is $400 for the mini.. yikes.
    By the way, your percentages are totally off throghout the video. Geekbench 6 14849 vs 12388 is an 19,9% increase. GFX Bench 145 vs 78 is an 85,9% increase.

  • @ConcreteAdvisory
    @ConcreteAdvisory 11 месяцев назад +4

    Great video.
    I knew I was going for the M2 Max but I still want to watch some videos.
    As far as video editing is concerned, I think that you should have emphasized the editing process smoothness more than export time. Export time is not that important in such machines, which are obviously at least decent for that.
    But even between a M1 Max and a M2 Pro, the video editing experience was much better on M1 Max (even more with several footage one on the others or VFX). Even though the export time was very similar most of the time (M1 pro obviously reaching its limit faster due to less cores). And even for photo editing that 32Go of ram will blast the 16 Go of ram when many layers are used (which is likely to be the case if you work in that sector).
    Tho for basic/personal editing, and administrative work, the basic M2 blasts the Mac Studio. While I have difficulties finding a point for the M2 pro in a desktop (in mobile computing it’s more than enough), for the base M2 it’s excellent value. Depends on the needs.

    • @Lilliputian63
      @Lilliputian63 9 месяцев назад +1

      I have to agree with you here. Start up the export, go get a bite or grab some sleep overnight. But add some VFX, or complex AI tasks, or just if you're looking for smooth scrubbing, now THERE is where editing becomes much easier and fun.

  • @BenHawkinsPhotography
    @BenHawkinsPhotography 4 месяца назад

    I have a good question for you tech guy? Can I use my 2019 iMac 27inch as a monitor with the Mac mini studio and how ?

  • @bhargan
    @bhargan 11 месяцев назад

    random question. Why does the Mac Studio white light in the front keep flashing? That would be super annoying if that is the case since its in the front of the unit. Please advise.

  • @RobsMemoryLane
    @RobsMemoryLane 11 месяцев назад

    Is the mini and editing 4K video on final cut pro smooth?

  • @baharam98
    @baharam98 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this. I am now sure I will get the studio.

  • @Hyde-fi_Audio
    @Hyde-fi_Audio 26 дней назад

    As someone who records music the M1 pro config makes a lot of sense because all we need is CPU and memory. Getting the Studio means we pay for GPU cores that we really don’t need.

  • @isaacixtupe8983
    @isaacixtupe8983 6 месяцев назад

    Will they work on any monitor or does it have to be an apple monitor?