Nadal hits the ball so hard during practice which he doesn't in his matches. This changed in the third set vs Medvedev in the final when he dramatically increased his forehand speed by 20kmph. Wow
@@bitanmandal977 no the forehand speed. It was 120kmph in the first two sets, and when he came back for the third, he changed it to 140 by flattening it. The data was televised. Man he can really read the game so well
I always felt that Marat Safin had the biggest/heaviest shots in tennis - especially his double BH, but his power was from natural strength/long levers. But Nadal is something else. He has that combination of power and spin which creates a _really_ heavy ball. Similar to Pete Sampras' 1st & 2nd serves - returning the ball was like hitting a brick. Nadal is 'next level'.
@@paulhussey8981 Yeah but Safin was known to be one of the physically stronger guys on tour in the first decade of the 2000s. Add to that he was 6'4" Which is why Hewitt, Davydenko, Federer, Moya, Nalbandian, etc, all great technique/timing but not 'Safinesque'
@@livingtribunal4110 not sure if you play tennis or follow the mens tour. Because the examples you give in support of your argument are just whack!!! What exactly is Safinesque? Pure power? Because Federer had just as much power on the forehand as Safin. Nalbandian had just as much power on the B/H.They were both about 6-1 compared to 6-4 Safin but generated the same power. Agassi all 5-11 of him hit the ball off both wings as hard as Safin or even harder. Height and bulk mean pretty much nothing on the mens tour . Thats why the GOAT , Novak is a mere 6-1/ 6-2 and slightly built.
@@paulhussey8981 The examples I give are just a few names randomly in the Top10 during Safin's 'peak', so just add Roddick, Nadal, Henman, Coria, Gaudio and you should be happier. As for Safin's power - it's universally / historically accepted that he hit a tennis ball harder/heavier than most but hey, Paul, don't take my word for it! *Hewitt (AusO '05)* : "Some of his hitting from the back of the court, you know, late in the third set and then the whole fourth set was, you know, pretty incredible. The amount of power he can generate from -- you know, whether it's a hard ball to him or a slower ball, you know, he's got amazing strength" *Nadal (Rogers Cup '07)* : Q: How many players have you played who hit the ball as hard as Marat does? NADAL: Well, today a lot of players hit the ball very hard, no? But like Marat? Not much! (laughs) Today is difficult to play very good because Marat is touching the ball with unbelievable power every time, no?" *Becker '00* : "I've not seen anyone hit the ball off both wings, that hard" I mean, I could go abd find numerous other PROFESSIONAL TENNIS PLAYERS who attest to Safin being 'Safinesque' lolololol, but hey, I can't be bothered right now because it's pretty academic and obvious. I'll just leave you scratching your head as you become aware of being owned on this one. Laters, Paul! 🤪
@@paulhussey8981 * notice how I let you off by not mentioning how _ridiculous_ your Federer/Nalbandian/Agassi (lol, Agassi) 'power' comparison comment was?
I’ve always wondered why nadal doesnt keep his forehand lower in matches like he does in practice. Not less topspin, just lower. I think that because players since the begining have talked about how much the nadal forehand bounces and is difficult to deal with, that he’s stuck with that even though most players now read his forehand. i think he would benefit from keeping it lower and therefore making it faster. Funny how reading some comments others feel the same way. Nadal is from my hometown and im pretty certain that he thinks in a safe manner where he feels he doesnt want to change what has worked.
Rafa's forehand is easy to read, and very hard to deal with. Why? Because it's unpredictable. He can hit with a lot of topspin (more than anyone ever) but he can also hit flat. Plus, even though his shots fall short from the baseline, the ball launches forward when it bounces making it hard to counter it even when his opponents know what's coming.
@@mqy1890 AO-FO would be epic! But after the AO, Wimbledon has been Rafa's 2nd unluckiest slam; I feel he deserves more than 2 titles there. He was close in 2007 and in 2018 he was so close. If he didn't have that brutal 5+ hour QF vs DelPo and Djoker didn't demand they close the roof, he very well may have made it to the final, where he 99% chance would've beaten Anderson. Of course, I'd also be very happy if Rafa won a 5th USO. :D
Lots of comments on Rafa's ball (totally understadnable and agree!). While I'm not a big fan of the guys personality himself, Zverev's ball deserves some attention too. its not as spinny but it really penetrates the court.
3:00 "- Inhumana, aquesta dreta ha sigut inhumana" (catalán language) "Not human, this last forehand was not human" - ¿Ha sigut bona? -> The last forehand was in? - Rafa Nadal: "Bien coordinado" -> Good cordination
Also he says that some of zverevs shots pass the net by milimetres which makes him doubt whether it will go in. And his coach says that Cressy also has a similar shot
Nadal hits the ball so hard during practice which he doesn't in his matches. This changed in the third set vs Medvedev in the final when he dramatically increased his forehand speed by 20kmph. Wow
Wasn't it the serve speed? The first serve?
@@bitanmandal977 no the forehand speed. It was 120kmph in the first two sets, and when he came back for the third, he changed it to 140 by flattening it. The data was televised. Man he can really read the game so well
@@abhisdream1 oo, 😊
@@abhisdream1 yeh you're right. I play very flat on forehand, I don't know how he can hit both topspin and flat so easily.
Rafa's forehand....wow, it's a canon
Vamos Rafa
I always felt that Marat Safin had the biggest/heaviest shots in tennis - especially his double BH, but his power was from natural strength/long levers.
But Nadal is something else.
He has that combination of power and spin which creates a _really_ heavy ball.
Similar to Pete Sampras' 1st & 2nd serves - returning the ball was like hitting a brick.
Nadal is 'next level'.
Power is not derived from 'natural strength/long levers". Its derived from technique, timing and follow through.
@@paulhussey8981 Yeah but Safin was known to be one of the physically stronger guys on tour in the first decade of the 2000s. Add to that he was 6'4"
Which is why Hewitt, Davydenko, Federer, Moya, Nalbandian, etc, all great technique/timing but not 'Safinesque'
@@livingtribunal4110 not sure if you play tennis or follow the mens tour. Because the examples you give in support of your argument are just whack!!! What exactly is Safinesque? Pure power? Because Federer had just as much power on the forehand as Safin. Nalbandian had just as much power on the B/H.They were both about 6-1 compared to 6-4 Safin but generated the same power. Agassi all 5-11 of him hit the ball off both wings as hard as Safin or even harder. Height and bulk mean pretty much nothing on the mens tour . Thats why the GOAT , Novak is a mere 6-1/ 6-2 and slightly built.
@@paulhussey8981 The examples I give are just a few names randomly in the Top10 during Safin's 'peak', so just add Roddick, Nadal, Henman, Coria, Gaudio and you should be happier.
As for Safin's power - it's universally / historically accepted that he hit a tennis ball harder/heavier than most but hey, Paul, don't take my word for it!
*Hewitt (AusO '05)* : "Some of his hitting from the back of the court, you know, late in the third set and then the whole fourth set was, you know, pretty incredible. The amount of power he can generate from -- you know, whether it's a hard ball to him or a slower ball, you know, he's got amazing strength"
*Nadal (Rogers Cup '07)* :
Q: How many players have you played who hit the ball as hard as Marat does?
NADAL: Well, today a lot of players hit the ball very hard, no? But like Marat? Not much! (laughs)
Today is difficult to play very good because Marat is touching the ball with unbelievable power every time, no?"
*Becker '00* :
"I've not seen anyone hit the ball off both wings, that hard"
I mean, I could go abd find numerous other PROFESSIONAL TENNIS PLAYERS who attest to Safin being 'Safinesque' lolololol, but hey, I can't be bothered right now because it's pretty academic and obvious.
I'll just leave you scratching your head as you become aware of being owned on this one.
Laters, Paul! 🤪
@@paulhussey8981 * notice how I let you off by not mentioning how _ridiculous_ your Federer/Nalbandian/Agassi (lol, Agassi) 'power' comparison comment was?
I’ve always felt Rafa would improve if he hit the ball flatter in hard courts like he does here
This camera angle is so much better than anything on TV imo
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it:)
This is absolutely awesome :)
I’ve always wondered why nadal doesnt keep his forehand lower in matches like he does in practice. Not less topspin, just lower.
I think that because players since the begining have talked about how much the nadal forehand bounces and is difficult to deal with, that he’s stuck with that even though most players now read his forehand. i think he would benefit from keeping it lower and therefore making it faster. Funny how reading some comments others feel the same way. Nadal is from my hometown and im pretty certain that he thinks in a safe manner where he feels he doesnt want to change what has worked.
Rafa's forehand is easy to read, and very hard to deal with. Why? Because it's unpredictable. He can hit with a lot of topspin (more than anyone ever) but he can also hit flat. Plus, even though his shots fall short from the baseline, the ball launches forward when it bounces making it hard to counter it even when his opponents know what's coming.
@@TheFlash3237 Rafa’s forehand is easy to read…then you say it’s unpredictable. What? Lmao.
@@jesse9307 By unpredictable I mean that you don't know when he's gonna hit flat or with topspin.
Rafael Nadal no.1 👍❤️
Actually, if he has a good clay season he has a good shot at reclaiming No.1. :D
@@mainemceachern1521 I want him to get calendar slam! 😁❤️✌️
@@tennis-man22 AO - FO is good enough for us Rafa fans, hhehe, if he get 3, bonus!!!
@@mqy1890 AO-FO would be epic! But after the AO, Wimbledon has been Rafa's 2nd unluckiest slam; I feel he deserves more than 2 titles there. He was close in 2007 and in 2018 he was so close. If he didn't have that brutal 5+ hour QF vs DelPo and Djoker didn't demand they close the roof, he very well may have made it to the final, where he 99% chance would've beaten Anderson. Of course, I'd also be very happy if Rafa won a 5th USO. :D
Lots of comments on Rafa's ball (totally understadnable and agree!). While I'm not a big fan of the guys personality himself, Zverev's ball deserves some attention too. its not as spinny but it really penetrates the court.
His footwork Is simply perfect, thats why he won 21 slams
Really promising player. I think he is going to win some Grand Slams in his career... GOAT
noat GOAT anymore haha
He is a good player.. You always hit hard to me. You were magnificent in the final as always!!!!!! Marvine :-)
Rafa is a monster
can anyone translate what they're saying?
3:00
"- Inhumana, aquesta dreta ha sigut inhumana" (catalán language) "Not human, this last forehand was not human"
- ¿Ha sigut bona? -> The last forehand was in?
- Rafa Nadal: "Bien coordinado" -> Good cordination
Also he says that some of zverevs shots pass the net by milimetres which makes him doubt whether it will go in. And his coach says that Cressy also has a similar shot
why do they not serve during practice
Less strain on the shoulders
heavy
Zverev pas terrible