This is a mix of a 1949 and 1950-51 Ford coupe. The gas filler on the ‘49 is as shown on this car. ‘50 and ‘51 had the filler inside the rear panel with a door cover. The car came with a Borg Warner overdrive beginning in 1949 and was stock on both the 6 and V8 models and was engaged with the lever(pull handle) as shown under the dash. It was actuated by a button under the gas pedal which would kick it back into standard drive if you pressed the pedal to the floor. The door handles are ‘50-‘51. The ‘49 did not have the push button handle.
The owner said he had people always coming up and telling him stories about their experiences in their shoebox. The best was a lady that walked up and looked inside and really examined it thoroughly before telling him she lost her virginity in a car like his.
It was a nice restoration. I wish I could take credit. I just did some repairs and modifications. I don't know the name of the paint color. Sorry. I am less than helpful here.
My first street car was a '51 Ford Business Coupe but it had an Oldsmobile J2 tri-power V8 engine conversion done by my dad and myself. Last I knew, the car is still being driven today. I sold it many years ago.
1950 Ford Fordor Custom my dad bought new was my first car. He picked it up right outside the plant at Long Beach Assembly in January, 1950. Has radio, heater, the Crestliner wheel covers and overdrive. That car taught me the foibles of the flathead engine, for sure! For 1950, it was a great car for the low priced three, The 6 that year actually developed 5 more HP than the 239 and got better efficiency. This was the car that bumped Chrysler back to #3 of the Big 3, but was outsold by the Chevy. This car saved Ford from sure bankruptcy, thanks to Bob McNamara and the "whiz kids."
I have a 1950 Ford Business coupe, the same color. It is Palisade Green. Sportsman Green was only used on convertibles. The 1950-51 style gas filler door is high on the fender and the filler pipe is almost vertical so fuel must be fed very slowly or the pump will shut off or fuel will splash out. The only way to easily change the fuel filler would be to change the quarter to a 1949 piece, which might happen in a restoration. In addition, the interior has been upgraded. The rear seat area did not have any upholstery like this one, the back and side panels as well as the package shelf are gray fiberboard with piping sewn across the top. The mat is also a ribbed rubber mat which unfortunately is not reproduced. I offered mine to Dennis Carpenter as a pattern but they said there was no demand. Notice no bumper guards, they were an option. There are no armrests and only one sun visor and the only thing holding the quarter windows in place is the rubber gasket and the interior moldings. Just basic transportation. My car did not even have a heater.
I have no doubt that you know more about it than I do. These cars have been on the road for a lot of years and have had a lot of owners. There is just no knowing what has been done to them. A common comment on this video was that the filler was wrong and therefore the car couldn't be a 1950. Maybe the rear quarter has been changed. As good a story as any. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!
This is a nice looking car from a time when cars were very simple compared to modern cars. An example of that simplicity is that the electrical diagram for that 1950 Ford Business Coupe would fit on one sheet of 8 1/2 by 11 inch paper. A modern car's electrical system takes over 100 pages of paper.
Well, not much to wire a distributor, starter and generator. Now it's, fuel injection, body control, transmission control, charging, sound, climate and few more magic boxes thrown in for good measure. 👍
The trunk lid is from 1950. The gas tank lid should be inside a flip open cover but maybe not on a business coupe..The 49 trunk lid had a chrome handle to open the trunk. Either the trunk lid was replaced or this is a 50 Ford. Also, the emblem on the front of the hood is from a 50 Ford and the roof is lower than the 49. So, maybe during restoration a few things were changed by what parts could be found. The interior looks like a 49, especially the steering wheel..
Love it ! I drive what is considered an old car with 180,000 original miles on it, a 2018 Chevy Impala. I would love to restore it , but time and money will not permit that. I am short on time and money , turning 80 today. However I will take it for my daily ride and get a wash and oil change so that I can continue to keep it. Its the only thing of value I prize.
Great styling, color and driveability no doubt due to your wise upgrades of 8BA flathead, camber correction, disc brakes and improved idler and drag link etc.
It runs great. The owner had me install the Dakota Digital instrument cluster a few weeks ago. Now he can actually read his temp, and gas and oil and everything. Thanks for the comment.
Beautiful! 30 years ago, I had a 1949 Ford Tudor Custom. Flathead straight six and the right hand taillight was a reflector not a light. The law states, All cars/trucks manufactured after January 1, 1958 must have two taillights.
Its a very interesting car. Is "no back seat" always what denotes a "business coupe"? Honestly, a 1950 Ford Business Coupe would make an excellent flea market car for someone like me. I like setting up a couple sundays out of the summer with my junk collection to share the love. I'll be feeling like i've got a new pair of shoes once my plate of projects is clear for another few weeks ;3
Nice restore...I like the original color but you could have done better on the interior to make it look a little more original. The vinyl with the oversized piping hives it that 50's retro diner look.
Wow you were driving that car on my street for part of the video I think I might know you from way in the past did you used to own or do you still own a cream colored old Ford panel truck
We think the rear panel was replaced; there's some evidence in the trunk. There is a theory that the previous owner wanted to fudge it as a '49. But, you know, Ford? They weren't exactly consistent with their production lines. I've talked to guys that worked on things like Mustangs that came right from the factory with engines that hadn't been available for two years.
I had a chance to buy a 1950 Ford coupe with a flathead V-8 3-speed with overdrive, an 8 volt battery, and an adjustable visor. It would start and run on 4 may pop tires with a spare and jack in the trunk for $200 . . . . . . in 1977. Yeah, a little rust and it needed a paint job and a new interior.
1st is non-synchro. So, you either slow down enough going into 1st or double clutch or feather the throttle to get them to mesh. It's actually very easy to drive.
I had a chance to buy a 1950 Ford two-door coupe, Flathead V-8 3 speed with an over-drive. It had an 8-volt battery and an adjustable visor over the split window and it would start and run on 4 may pop tires . . . . $200.00. It did need a lot of work which is why at 17, I could not afford to do. . . . . oh well . . . . . . .
Ya know, you can use your left hand to put the key in the ignition! This leaves your right hand free for shifting into neutral or turning on the radio!
Not sure what part of Texas you're in. But, this part of California stays in the hundreds pretty much all of July and August. You're not wrong, though. The owner was in love with that old hot rod stuff from his youth. And, he was dead-set on the V8. I would have kept the 6 myself.
I am near Austin, Texas. It is pretty much 96+ all of June, July, August, and September. I base what I said on my experience as well as common sense. I have a 1963 Falcon with a 170 six cylinder. Never had any overheating issues. I also have a 1978 Mustang II with a 5 liter V8 from the factory. Always had overheating issues. Of course, the Mustang II was not designed for a V8 originally. It was stuffed in in the 1976, 1977, and 1978 models.
@@pattyeverett2826 I've a couple of friends that moved to Austin in recent years. They speak highly of it. The Falcons and early Mustangs are kind of known for running hot with a V8. They were designed around the small 6. Our '64 Falcon Sprint runs hot during the summer. So does my friend's '66 Mustang. I admit I know little about the Mustang II's. But, I'd assume the same issues come from the same root causes. Cheers!
I'll have to ask him. He's been having health issues and i'm not sure that question would be high priority for him. But, he does like talking about his '50. So, I'll ask him what he knows about it.
Looking back at this model year of Ford car presents it as archaic-- which is unfair to the appreciation of the design. When one considers what a 1948 model Ford looked like, this redesign was a radical change from the styles of the early forties and although this body style only persisted for about 3 years (49-51), changing to the square body with the 1952 models, it proved that post war automobile designers were slowly bringing cars into a new age.
Yes. The first real postwar Studebaker, GM, and Chrysler cars all had stuck on rear fenders. Later the Studes and GMs with the same body blended the fender into the body, so they were seamless but with the same shape. The 1949 Ford set the pattern for all sedans, even up to today. It's kind of too bad that they kept the two flat plane windshield. Lincoln Cosmopolitans had a one piece curved windshield so Ford knew how to do that, but probably kept the two flat plane version for Fords to save money. GM cars had a spit windshield but with curved glass.
I bought this model Ford in 1960, as a non runner. Got it home somehow and had probs with the ignition system. Wrote to Ford in U.S.A, and they sent me a Works Manual on it by Airmail, at no cost.! Got it sorted, and when the log-book turned up the color was named as Orange Ice, the previous owner was none other than the British boxer Randolph Turpin, who, apparently brought it back from America after a tournament in 1959 or so.. I loved the car and the sound of that flathead V8 is still with me, but I never did find out why the Americans called it a Shoebox. Perhaps someone in the know could let me know.?..............
I think the shoebox name is because it was a much boxier shape than cars with external fenders. 1948 had pronounced front fenders and then 49 was sort of flat from front to back, like a shoebox. It's like the 1957 -60 Ford trucks are referred to as Fridges. They kind of look like a 1950's refrigerator. Cheers!
Many thanks Justin, with your use of fenders describing pre '50 vehicles, I fully understand the "Shoebox" as we use the word Mudguards. I see from Utube U.S. car shows that it is still a very popular sought after car.! I was in my local hostelry, having a quiet drink, when an American Airman came in and called out "Whos'e is the '50 outside".? I raised a finger and he came over and begged me to let him have a drive in it. I couldn't refuse, I knew most of them could drive at 10 years of age, so I suggested he keep to the left, and gave him the keys.! Ten minutes later, he came back, a happy boy, apparently, his folks used to have one the same, but a different colour, and he was a little homesick. I understood, having been sent to a ghastly other-side of the World posting myself. In the Military.! My next Beautiful U.S vehicle was a '53 Studebaker Champion, .........long story........Thanks again, Justin.!
Nope. Calling it a '50 because that's what is on the title and that's what the owner called it. Arguing over a thing like that is not the hill I want to die on.
I'm not sure what I said about the overdrive in the video. I don't know if this car came with the overdrive. It is a factory overdrive unit that I think was modified to use a solenoid to engage and disengage the overdrive with the flip of a switch.
Maybe it was another poster, but somebody said it was an after market item. It was my first car, so I didn't know much about it. I was 20 years old at the time, and it was very exciting just having some wheels. The time...1957.
You don't know how lucky you are to have that filler. It is almost impossible to fill the 1950-51 style filler without spitting back or shutting off the pump. It is embarrassing to go through a busy station with people lined up like Costco and take 5 minutes to dribble in a few gallons.
Our '64 Falcon is, or was, really bad. The filler literally goes slightly uphill. I modified it so you actually fill it in the trunk. The filler cap on the outside is just a dummy for looks. Before I made that modification, I was very aware of the struggle of spilling gas all over the place. As a matter of fact, I'd usually give up before completely filling the tank.
In my 1960 high school class we bought this car and restored it in the shop classes under the tutelage of our teachers. Real men knew how to fix cars and keep them running. Try fixing one of todays electric monstrosities.
I don't even know what happened to it. After my friend died his son took everything and I know the only car he was interested in was the 1964 Impala Convertible.
You know, I'm not sure. I'd guess probably about 18MPG on the hwy as long as you keep it 65 and under. Around town, I'd guess closer to 12MPG. Honestly, I doubt he ever checked it.
THOSE DAYS, HOW THE STYLING WAS EVERYTHING ON ALL CARS ,AND RAD. CHANGES ALMOST EVERY YEAR. THAT CAR TODAY WOULD COST ABOUT 106K TO REPLICATE AT DEARBORN TODAY EVEN WITH MODERN LINES
It doesn't have the chrome ends on the horizontal bulge dashboard shape, maybe because of being the cheap model. A clock would be nice though since it's so obvious with the blank plate in the middle of the dashboard. The turn signal has the clicker right there connected to the lever. Maybe after market, but the normal factory one might have been that way as it was on Studebakers. Turn signals were thought of as an option and backup lights were super deluxe!
But it's not a '49 dash either, because that one had vertical chrome bars across that shape at each side of the speedometer. I hadn't noticed the changed fuel filler that I learned here is supposed to be on a '50, although I knew about the cool '49 style trunk hinges this one has. It also has (I just also learned) 1950 door handles, which are the same or similar to what Ford used for years after that. The 1949 has non-pushbutton handles. A lot of detail changes on the '50 actually.
It's a bit of an enigma. I have a lot more history with Falcons and Mustangs. What I have learned, Ford is not consistent with anything from one year to the next. They seem to use whatever is left on the shelf regardless of what model they're working on.
This is a mix of a 1949 and 1950-51 Ford coupe. The gas filler on the ‘49 is as shown on this car. ‘50 and ‘51 had the filler inside the rear panel with a door cover. The car came with a Borg Warner overdrive beginning in 1949 and was stock on both the 6 and V8 models and was engaged with the lever(pull handle) as shown under the dash. It was actuated by a button under the gas pedal which would kick it back into standard drive if you pressed the pedal to the floor. The door handles are ‘50-‘51. The ‘49 did not have the push button handle.
Thanks!
A real creampuff of a car. How nice for the owner, living in California with a car like this. Life is good.
Very nice car. My brother's each had one back in the mid 50's. One a couple the other a sedan. Both two doors.
Very cool!
Outstanding job updating while keeping the car "original." And classy background music to boot!
I remember as a toddler standing up in the rear window looking at the Mad Buick's coming at us. My mom's first car.
The owner said he had people always coming up and telling him stories about their experiences in their shoebox. The best was a lady that walked up and looked inside and really examined it thoroughly before telling him she lost her virginity in a car like his.
Nice job with the restoration. I am planning on buying a rough 1950 Ford coupe. I like the paint what is the name of the color?
It was a nice restoration. I wish I could take credit. I just did some repairs and modifications. I don't know the name of the paint color. Sorry. I am less than helpful here.
Great video. 👍
That music is so charming....when the world opens back up I'm running to Vegas for some live big band entertainment 🤞
Super clean shoebox
My uncle Gus had a 1950 like this one blue hopped up. But it had a back seat he got good use out of it!
Man! I would love to own this baby!
Me too
That's a super nice car! And a great video. The music was a really nice touch!
beautiful ride
My first street car was a '51 Ford Business Coupe but it had an Oldsmobile J2 tri-power V8 engine conversion done by my dad and myself. Last I knew, the car is still being driven today. I sold it many years ago.
1950 Ford Fordor Custom my dad bought new was my first car. He picked it up right outside the plant at Long Beach Assembly in January, 1950. Has radio, heater, the Crestliner wheel covers and overdrive. That car taught me the foibles of the flathead engine, for sure! For 1950, it was a great car for the low priced three, The 6 that year actually developed 5 more HP than the 239 and got better efficiency. This was the car that bumped Chrysler back to #3 of the Big 3, but was outsold by the Chevy. This car saved Ford from sure bankruptcy, thanks to Bob McNamara and the "whiz kids."
This makes me wonder. Is the car still in the family?
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The car had advanced styling for it's time. Most cars today follow this streamline design. It was a best selling car in it's day.
Looking at the deck lid hinges and gas cap (Not in a door) I think this is a late 49, sold as 1950. Yes, after seeing interior its a 49....
I want one of these. I like the business coupe for not having a back seat. Seems interesting that way
What an awesome video. Beautiful car. Very appropriate soundtrack music also!!! Kudos!
I just responded to someone that hated the music. I just can't make everyone happy. :-)
Nice video! Thanks
I have a 1950 Ford Business coupe, the same color. It is Palisade Green. Sportsman Green was only used on convertibles. The 1950-51 style gas filler door is high on the fender and the filler pipe is almost vertical so fuel must be fed very slowly or the pump will shut off or fuel will splash out. The only way to easily change the fuel filler would be to change the quarter to a 1949 piece, which might happen in a restoration.
In addition, the interior has been upgraded. The rear seat area did not have any upholstery like this one, the back and side panels as well as the package shelf are gray fiberboard with piping sewn across the top. The mat is also a ribbed rubber mat which unfortunately is not reproduced. I offered mine to Dennis Carpenter as a pattern but they said there was no demand. Notice no bumper guards, they were an option. There are no armrests and only one sun visor and the only thing holding the quarter windows in place is the rubber gasket and the interior moldings. Just basic transportation. My car did not even have a heater.
I have no doubt that you know more about it than I do. These cars have been on the road for a lot of years and have had a lot of owners. There is just no knowing what has been done to them. A common comment on this video was that the filler was wrong and therefore the car couldn't be a 1950. Maybe the rear quarter has been changed. As good a story as any.
Thanks for the comment. Cheers!
This is a nice looking car from a time when cars were very simple compared to modern cars. An example of that simplicity is that the electrical diagram for that 1950 Ford Business Coupe would fit on one sheet of 8 1/2 by 11 inch paper. A modern car's electrical system takes over 100 pages of paper.
Well, not much to wire a distributor, starter and generator. Now it's, fuel injection, body control, transmission control, charging, sound, climate and few more magic boxes thrown in for good measure. 👍
That is not a 1950 model by the looks of the gas tank filler it is a 1949. The 1950 had a door over the filler . But it is a beautiful car .
Exactly, 1950 ford came with recessed filler tank with cover.
The trunk lid is from 1950. The gas tank lid should be inside a flip open cover but maybe not on a business coupe..The 49 trunk lid had a chrome handle to open the trunk. Either the trunk lid was replaced or this is a 50 Ford. Also, the emblem on the front of the hood is from a 50 Ford and the roof is lower than the 49. So, maybe during restoration a few things were changed by what parts could be found. The interior looks like a 49, especially the steering wheel..
It has a 1949 L/R quarter panel with the ezposed gas filler tube. Very nice car.
That’s what I was thinking.with these cars,old as they are,you don’t know what you’re getting.
On paper, it's a '50. There's no telling what it's true history is though.
Thanks so much for posting many years ago LOL I had 1950 business coupe myself did a lot of work on it not as nice as yours but still loved it
Love it ! I drive what is considered an old car with 180,000 original miles on it, a 2018 Chevy Impala. I would love to restore it , but time and money will not permit that. I am short on time and money , turning 80 today. However I will take it for my daily ride and get a wash and oil change so that I can continue to keep it. Its the only thing of value I prize.
Gorgeous car
Giving me memories of my dads 1950 Shoebox license plate 349 XUM.
My first car back in the early 60s. Wish I would have hung on to it.
Great styling, color and driveability no doubt due to your wise upgrades of 8BA flathead, camber correction, disc brakes and improved idler and drag link etc.
It runs great. The owner had me install the Dakota Digital instrument cluster a few weeks ago. Now he can actually read his temp, and gas and oil and everything. Thanks for the comment.
She's gorgeous I love seeing classic cars in there original style don't get me wrong I love hotrods but to how they look in a original style is great
My first car at 16 was my mom’s and Grandma 1950 Ford Coup in what I would call the MAFIA STYLE COUPE.
We had one of these when I was a kid. I love the hose clamps holding the tach onto the steering column. That's the way it's done.
Now, 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 is one 𝙨𝙬𝙚𝙚𝙩 little car! 👀
Beautiful! 30 years ago, I had a 1949 Ford Tudor Custom. Flathead straight six and the right hand taillight was a reflector not a light. The law states, All cars/trucks manufactured after January 1, 1958 must have two taillights.
I had the same coupe with basic V-8 as a kid, same color, but it had a rear seat. I blew a couple of transmissions attempting to "peel rubber".
Good year and styling, nice tasteful upgrades and a desirable car.
Thank you.
You learn something every day, i had thought all 50's had the hidden gas caps.......but i guess not.
Very nice car, thanks for posting it. Alot of those came either way as far as the back seat, like that one or had a seat.
I'm glad you appreciate it. Thank You.
... It definitely is a pretty sharp ride !~! .......
It’s November 2021. Love to buy it
Nice business coupe
Great soundtrack!
Had one same color was a very nice car to drive
Had one when i was 15 flat head V8 dual glass packs , fun car.
Its a very interesting car. Is "no back seat" always what denotes a "business coupe"?
Honestly, a 1950 Ford Business Coupe would make an excellent flea market car for someone like me. I like setting up a couple sundays out of the summer with my junk collection to share the love. I'll be feeling like i've got a new pair of shoes once my plate of projects is clear for another few weeks ;3
I want!
Me too
Sweet ride! Thank you for displaying!
Thanks for the comment.
Nice restore...I like the original color but you could have done better on the interior to make it look a little more original. The vinyl with the oversized piping hives it that 50's retro diner look.
Wow... what a gorgeous car!
Wow you were driving that car on my street for part of the video I think I might know you from way in the past did you used to own or do you still own a cream colored old Ford panel truck
I did. I sold it a couple years ago. The current owner is using it as a Tap Truck and goes to events to serve beer out it.
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Love it
is this an early 50 ford because it has a 1949 ford gas filler which is exposed, 1950 fords had a gas flip cover
We think the rear panel was replaced; there's some evidence in the trunk. There is a theory that the previous owner wanted to fudge it as a '49. But, you know, Ford? They weren't exactly consistent with their production lines. I've talked to guys that worked on things like Mustangs that came right from the factory with engines that hadn't been available for two years.
This car has the push button door release handles whereas the '49 was equipped with lever release handles.
Looks like a 1949 to me. But, what do I know about gas cap placement?
And a 1950 title. It has a history and we don't know all of it.
Nice car. What color is it?
Back when America built good stuff
Awesome Ford!
Thanks for posting!
You're welcome. Thanks.
The 1st thing I noticed was the '49 fuel filler cap. I have never seen that before on a '50 model.
It does raise questions.
beauty car, period music was great touch.
It's one of my favorites. The owner gave it to his son. I'm not likely going to get to work on it again. It will be missed.
Beautiful car real timeless shape!
It's one of the best.
I had a chance to buy a 1950 Ford coupe with a flathead V-8 3-speed with overdrive, an 8 volt battery, and an adjustable visor.
It would start and run on 4 may pop tires with a spare and jack in the trunk for $200 . . . . . . in 1977.
Yeah, a little rust and it needed a paint job and a new interior.
Try not to think about it. I lament many a deals that I could have made over the years.
Are those transmission synchronizer do you have to double clutch
1st is non-synchro. So, you either slow down enough going into 1st or double clutch or feather the throttle to get them to mesh. It's actually very easy to drive.
I had a chance to buy a 1950 Ford two-door coupe, Flathead V-8 3 speed with an over-drive. It had an 8-volt battery and an adjustable visor over the split window and it would start and run on 4 may pop tires . . . . $200.00.
It did need a lot of work which is why at 17, I could not afford to do. . . . . oh well . . . . . . .
Great choice of music.
It felt right. Thanks.
My first car in 1966 was a 1950 Ford 2 door sedan
My pop has 50 Ford with V-8 Flat head 4 door with the side pipes and it has the flip door for the gas , . Built like a tank
Would he sell it?
Ya know, you can use your left hand to put the key in the ignition! This leaves your right hand free for shifting into neutral or turning on the radio!
emjayay late reply, but it was also so you could operate the manual choke! So neat
You used your left hand to operate the starter button and your right was to operate the ignition switch and the manual choke.
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What lovely old ride. Any overheating g problems?
No over heating that I'm aware of. It lives near San Diego now. So, we'll likely never know.
Their flathead six was no slouch in 1950. 9.5:1 compression and faster to 60 than the stock V8
I tried to buy that 6 that was in it. But, he had promised it to someone else. I don't have a use for it. I just think there good little motors.
Yes has 50 door handles 50 trunk hinges 50 door panels 50 knobes
Here in hot Texas, you probably would have better off keeping the 6. Less problems with overheating.
Not sure what part of Texas you're in. But, this part of California stays in the hundreds pretty much all of July and August. You're not wrong, though. The owner was in love with that old hot rod stuff from his youth. And, he was dead-set on the V8. I would have kept the 6 myself.
I am near Austin, Texas. It is pretty much 96+ all of June, July, August, and September. I base what I said on my experience as well as common sense. I have a 1963 Falcon with a 170 six cylinder. Never had any overheating issues. I also have a 1978 Mustang II with a 5 liter V8 from the factory. Always had overheating issues. Of course, the Mustang II was not designed for a V8 originally. It was stuffed in in the 1976, 1977, and 1978 models.
@@pattyeverett2826 I've a couple of friends that moved to Austin in recent years. They speak highly of it. The Falcons and early Mustangs are kind of known for running hot with a V8. They were designed around the small 6. Our '64 Falcon Sprint runs hot during the summer. So does my friend's '66 Mustang. I admit I know little about the Mustang II's. But, I'd assume the same issues come from the same root causes. Cheers!
Austin is a very nice place, but it is getting very crowded.
@@pattyeverett2826 with Californians I'd bet.
Justin great video. Is there any way to find out what color this car is from the owner. Thank you.
I'll have to ask him. He's been having health issues and i'm not sure that question would be high priority for him. But, he does like talking about his '50. So, I'll ask him what he knows about it.
Looking back at this model year of Ford car presents it as archaic-- which is unfair to the appreciation of the design. When one considers what a 1948 model Ford looked like, this redesign was a radical change from the styles of the early forties and although this body style only persisted for about 3 years (49-51), changing to the square body with the 1952 models, it proved that post war automobile designers were slowly bringing cars into a new age.
You are correct. It would have been nice to have a '48 Ford setting there along side it.
Yes. The first real postwar Studebaker, GM, and Chrysler cars all had stuck on rear fenders. Later the Studes and GMs with the same body blended the fender into the body, so they were seamless but with the same shape. The 1949 Ford set the pattern for all sedans, even up to today. It's kind of too bad that they kept the two flat plane windshield. Lincoln Cosmopolitans had a one piece curved windshield so Ford knew how to do that, but probably kept the two flat plane version for Fords to save money. GM cars had a spit windshield but with curved glass.
The 50 Olds had a one piece, curved, windshield. Lots of Chevy folks will modify their cars to use the Olds windshield.
Could have done without the music, so as to hear the engine.
Looks like a fun ride.
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I love that you had to tell the Californian how to say Mackinac. Thanks for the comment. Cheers!
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I bought this model Ford in 1960, as a non runner. Got it home somehow and had probs with the ignition system. Wrote to Ford in U.S.A, and they sent me a Works Manual on it by Airmail, at no cost.!
Got it sorted, and when the log-book turned up the color was named as Orange Ice, the previous owner was none other than the British boxer Randolph Turpin, who, apparently brought it back from America after a tournament in 1959 or so..
I loved the car and the sound of that flathead V8 is still with me, but I never did find out why the Americans called it a Shoebox. Perhaps someone in the know could let me know.?..............
I think the shoebox name is because it was a much boxier shape than cars with external fenders. 1948 had pronounced front fenders and then 49 was sort of flat from front to back, like a shoebox. It's like the 1957 -60 Ford trucks are referred to as Fridges. They kind of look like a 1950's refrigerator. Cheers!
Many thanks Justin, with your use of fenders describing pre '50 vehicles, I fully understand the "Shoebox" as we use the word Mudguards. I see from Utube U.S. car shows that it is still a very popular sought after car.!
I was in my local hostelry, having a quiet drink, when an American Airman came in and called out "Whos'e is the '50 outside".? I raised a finger and he came over and begged me to let him have a drive in it. I couldn't refuse, I knew most of them could drive at 10 years of age, so I suggested he keep to the left, and gave him the keys.!
Ten minutes later, he came back, a happy boy, apparently, his folks used to have one the same, but a different colour, and he was a little homesick. I understood, having been sent to a ghastly other-side of the World posting myself. In the Military.!
My next Beautiful U.S vehicle was a '53 Studebaker Champion, .........long story........Thanks again, Justin.!
Is it possible to add backseats?
Reminds me of an ole' gal pal i called"back seat becky"💁👠💄😂
drivers side rear panel is from a 1949
It also has the 49 trunk hinges.
Good to know. It's an oddity. We've speculated that someone was trying to pass it off as a '49 at some point.
Maybe an early '50? Just a guess.
Your guess is right. They used em till they ran out. I always told the 2 apart by the door handles. Pull 49 and push button for 50.
Those are 50 trunk hinges
I had 1952 Ford crestline nice car flathead 8
Nice car. Those flatheads are fun motors.
no problem with low rear 6cyl ratios or is that why. overdrive did this once on 51 wagon no good on highway speeds.
As far as I know the rear is whatever Ford put in it with the original 6. With the overdrive it runs freeway speeds just great.
Justin Jennings ok just a thought very nice car I have 59ranchero 66tbird ragtop
Are you calling it a 50 because it has a 50 front end?? The body is a 1949
Nope. Calling it a '50 because that's what is on the title and that's what the owner called it. Arguing over a thing like that is not the hill I want to die on.
Definitely NOT '49 trunk handles.
Are ya sure it's not a 49 ?
what wheel and tires are you running
The wheels are stock, I believe. The tires are from Coker. I'm not sure about the size.
IT HAS 1950 DOOR HANDLES AND PARKING LIGHTS.
My 50 had that same overdrive thing that you thought was after market. I thought it was factory, and mine looked exactly the same.
I'm not sure what I said about the overdrive in the video. I don't know if this car came with the overdrive. It is a factory overdrive unit that I think was modified to use a solenoid to engage and disengage the overdrive with the flip of a switch.
Maybe it was another poster, but somebody said it was an after market item. It was my first car, so I didn't know much about it. I was 20 years old at the time, and it was very exciting just having some wheels. The time...1957.
Love It!
It's one of my favorites.
You don't know how lucky you are to have that filler. It is almost impossible to fill the 1950-51 style filler without spitting back or shutting off the pump. It is embarrassing to go through a busy station with people lined up like Costco and take 5 minutes to dribble in a few gallons.
Our '64 Falcon is, or was, really bad. The filler literally goes slightly uphill. I modified it so you actually fill it in the trunk. The filler cap on the outside is just a dummy for looks. Before I made that modification, I was very aware of the struggle of spilling gas all over the place. As a matter of fact, I'd usually give up before completely filling the tank.
It’s a 49, 50 it’s probably has had parts switched around
I can say we spent a lot of time discussing all the possibilities. One theory is it's a '50 and someone wanted it to look more like a '49. Cheers!
Time to get back to work on Rusty!!
In my 1960 high school class we bought this car and restored it in the shop classes under the tutelage of our teachers. Real men knew how to fix cars and keep them running. Try fixing one of todays electric monstrosities.
Car fpr sale. ?
I don't even know what happened to it. After my friend died his son took everything and I know the only car he was interested in was the 1964 Impala Convertible.
What would the fuel economy be on that
You know, I'm not sure. I'd guess probably about 18MPG on the hwy as long as you keep it 65 and under. Around town, I'd guess closer to 12MPG. Honestly, I doubt he ever checked it.
THOSE DAYS, HOW THE STYLING WAS EVERYTHING ON ALL CARS ,AND RAD. CHANGES ALMOST EVERY YEAR. THAT CAR TODAY WOULD COST ABOUT 106K TO REPLICATE AT DEARBORN TODAY EVEN WITH MODERN LINES
my fav also...bruce
Why do you guys add music? I want to hear the cars activity. Music drowns out the sounds . Just ruins the video.
I'm so sorry. :-(
It doesn't have the chrome ends on the horizontal bulge dashboard shape, maybe because of being the cheap model. A clock would be nice though since it's so obvious with the blank plate in the middle of the dashboard. The turn signal has the clicker right there connected to the lever. Maybe after market, but the normal factory one might have been that way as it was on Studebakers. Turn signals were thought of as an option and backup lights were super deluxe!
But it's not a '49 dash either, because that one had vertical chrome bars across that shape at each side of the speedometer. I hadn't noticed the changed fuel filler that I learned here is supposed to be on a '50, although I knew about the cool '49 style trunk hinges this one has. It also has (I just also learned) 1950 door handles, which are the same or similar to what Ford used for years after that. The 1949 has non-pushbutton handles. A lot of detail changes on the '50 actually.
It's a bit of an enigma. I have a lot more history with Falcons and Mustangs. What I have learned, Ford is not consistent with anything from one year to the next. They seem to use whatever is left on the shelf regardless of what model they're working on.
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Had one same color nice car to drive
VERY NICE CAR. WISH IT WAS 4 $ALE. ? 4 YRS AGO ....PROBABLY NOT .
COLOR , SHAPE & STYLE. FLAT 8 ? POWER
PERFECT CAR
U R. A GREAT CAR MECHANIC