How to Clean/Oil/Replace an Air Filter - For Beginners and Vets Too | Episode 288
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In today’s video, I’m showing you how I clean my dirt bike air filters. It’s a good idea to keep more than one filter for your dirt bike so that you can keep a clean one in the bike and always have another clean one back in the shop/garage for quick filter changes.
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I have been using diesel and dish soap to clean filters for 25 years. NEVER EVER had an issue with filter durability. I like the PJ1 oil.
Out here we use petrol man, gonna start using dish soap , gotta save fuel
Same
I use dish soap on mine and never had a problem.
Nice
I use gasoline then dawn dish soap and spray it with k&n oil.
Also I wash with dawn dish soap and water after the solvent , allow to dry then I oil it and allow the solvent in the oil to dry then store it in a ziplock bag and it's ready to go when I do bike maintenance
yeah hes just telling bs
Sure every rider has preferences but I'm pretty sold on the No Toil, would be great if you could review it.
Great for the environment and easy to use so you are more likely to clean the filter more often!
I also clean the air filter frame and airbox if they start picking up a bit too much dirt.
If you clean the airbox be sure to stick a clean rag down the intake because the airbox cleaning covers don't seal 100%.
That bucket with the grate on the bottom is a great idea, will be sure to get one of those.
Great videos, best dirt bike channel on RUclips...keep up the good work!
just a tip , i use a 20mm paint brush and paint a thin layer of grease on the air box lip, you use alot less grease and its much easier as the filter doesnt absorb it while applying.
On my older bikes I used to use the powdered notoil cleaners and spray on filter oil. But with my '17 husky, which has the same filter as your KTM, I'm using the liquid oil (I use the green twin air stuff that seems thinner than the blue). And I have to say I really like the process of being able to completely submerge the filter then wring it out. Done!
I have used the spray oil and I don't reccomend it. I get a nice piece of mind from fully submerging the filter.
The Steg Pegz seem like a good way to reduce arm pump. I've heard good things about them so they should be worth the trouble of unscrewing them when needed. Glad to hear you are testing them out. Wish they made them for my old Yamaha.
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Cheers Kyle. I had this playing and mirrored your steps at home - only my second time cleaning an air filter so still looking to get a process bedded in. Job done!
I like the no toil evolution oil, I use oxy clean to clean the filter and it can all be dumped down the drain.
I used diesel fuel for years as well, but Now I just use regular gas because I always have it on hand for the mower.
Then a good scrub with dawn for dishes.
yea and gas dry fast as fuck
Try out the sand cover for the airfilter, that keeps the filter cleaner and makes the cleaning process much easier.
And you keep much of the dirt away form the bin of solvent.
Your watch came out looking real shiny!
go get two gallons of diesel fuel and put it in that bucket....same shit as twin air. been using diesel for years to clean filters. works like a charm!
I know it’s been over a year but how many cleanings do you get out of your diesel before you get more?
@@colten6996 its cheap
@@jimmyjumper6613 where do you recycle it after?
@@ihaveyourkeyes the weeds in the driveway 😂
@@ihaveyourkeyes Under a bush.
I have used all types of filters for the work I do such as air particle systems so I know a bit about filters. Air and dirt particles are measured in what’s called microns and even a dry filter with no oil would not let sand or dust get through the filter. We don’t want dust getting into the motor of course because it would shorten the life of the piston and cylinder but also oiling the filter heavy shortens the life of the motor due to air restriction. Air restriction is very harmful to an engine of any kind. If you were to wash an oily filter with soap and water and let it dry out grab a paper towel and squeeze it into your oil oil filter. You will see there is still oil in that filter. This amount of oil is enough to help remove dust however if using a solvent such as what he’s using it could remove all oil so lightly coat the filter with oil. Dirt and dust will not get past that filter enough that it would harm the engine but restricting air flow can cause it to run hot and will cause the engine to run hot as well as shorten the life of everything in that engine including the clutch. Also he used grease around the edges and that’s a good idea because that’s the only way dust is going to get by that filter. Locking and air filter in place securely is the most important part of an air filter cleaning or replacement. Cat dander is 3 microns and dust is much larger so I’m telling you that there is no way dust can get through that filter. It’s a shame that in 2023 they don’t make these air filters lock in place like they should because how they connect to your box is extremely important
Friend that keeps tractor trailer engines running hundreds of thousands of miles said the big reason they get that longevity is because of really clean air. If he loosens a truck filter, a good new one goes on. Air filter hygiene as stressed in this video is the way to go: Add: Try to have a clean bike so dust crumbs don't fall in. Damp towel to pick any dirt on clean side of filter before you put filter in. Store next "ready" filter in a big zip lock bag so it doesn't get dirty waiting to go in. When solvent goes back in 1 gal can, leave the last 1/2 cup and the dirt in the bucket for disposal.
Just bought my first bike 07 450ktm sx thanks for the tips on cleaning the filter.....crazy first bike!!
Awesome video very detailed to how to clean your air filter thank you keep up the awesome videos
I used bucket with oil but then I realised that I'm waisting a lot of oil after squeeze all extra oil. I did the same like you later on but now I'm using plastic bag. I put filter there oil and working. It's much cleaner method. Just FYI. What about dust cover? Are you using it?
Good stuff, I will be trying the grease approach next time on my '17 KTM 500 :)
Chad Cromer dont put as much as he does lol thats excesive ...all u need is a thin layer but yes u should be putting grease on cause its not a screw on filter like the other ones so it dosent get much even pressure all the way around.
great video. i didnt know yous over there werent allowed to ride your 2 stroke anywhere in the forest. here in australia we can ride anywhere in the forest.
How often should you replace a air filter on a 2020 ktm 125sx?
If I went to a track for a few hours or on a long trail ride I would do it after every ride but if you just go for one or two hours u could maybe get 2 or 3 rides out of one filter
Think he means replace in buying a new one. How long do they last before falling apart.
whats your guys opinions on filter skins?
Twin Air charges a lot for Simple Green.
Do you guys recommend a filter netting cover? It seems like it doesn't seal as well. Maybe I should put the grease on top of where the net wants to wrap around. ? Just started riding.
kyle if you could only ride one bike for the year what bike would it be n why . thankyou
Kyle, if you don't get all of the old oil/dye off of the filter, how do you know if the new oil is completely covering the foam?
How do you dispose of the solvent?
can you do a video on over all maintaining a dirt bike i have had a crf125 and just got a crf150rb. and have fond out that it needs a lot more maintenance but i am not sure how to maintain it properly. thank you
Do you need to wait for the oil to dry or can you just put it back on?
rim grease works great
Yay u got steg pegz on there😊 we r the local dealer on oahu in hawaii and i actually just mounted that same model on my friends bike and bc of the way the 2017 ktms are it was kinda hard to do
Glad this is for beginner but what solvant and oil brand/product do you use ?
Why do you need to oil the filters? What if i dont oil them
I use mineral spirits to clean them it works just as well
I use mineral spirits(paint thinner) to clean, then Maxima oil . Any opinions ?
Very good thanks 😊 🏍
How many filters could you oil from 1 quart of twin air? I can get 15 from Bel-ray, which is my favorite.
I just ran out of pit possi filter oil and ordered some Bel-ray. I just came on here to see how much oil people use. My friends swear by Bel-ray
What do you do with your solvent when discard?
Tip it in the nearest waterway
I just replaced my airfilter with brand new one oiled it and now my bike doesn’t start and sometimes pops when kicking it
Maybe you got dirty in the airbox or carburetor
Cheers pal thanks for your knowledge 👍
Why do you have to clean your air filter so often with 4 stroke bikes? Also, I thought that it would be worse for a 2 stroke engine to have dirt or dust get past the air filter into the engine because the mixture goes into the crankcase and dirt could ruin the crank.
Because of valves wear
Thanks for your great videos!
good clear info. and love it how i sneak a few short drone vids in
this might dound crazy but can i use wahing up liquid as oil 😅
washing*
Sweet you have a husqvarna bike mat
Still need to use a detergent to clean after solvent. Important missed step!
Try out a 150xcw
*please
They work well, lots of the AA guys ride the piss out of them here. Some used to run big bore 125's vs the 200 option even so 150cc works well in the midwest. Few are SX converts since they don't make a XC model in the 150. The 2 riders in my club said took a bit to get carb close to perfect. One I rode was my buddies kids, plenty fast for me in Vet A. If it was a XC vs XCW or SX it would be my bike of choice if was buying a new bike but my old CR does me fine, love that bike but 150 just great handling in the woods when on the pipe. Rode a new left over 2016 and new 2017 250XC, still preferred the 150 but rode in premium track conditions on our event setup days. My main rival rode a 300XC then a 300 4 stroke and now a 17' 250XC and said he wished he bought the 150 and his kids rides the older version. He's a much bigger dude than me also so it works. His kid one his first race on this weekend also. Currently 1st and 2nd place in AA are on KTM 150's. KTM actually does ride days or ask you dealer if they sponsor or setup a ride day.
There are other reviews on but most where slower riders that I found. Makes a difference but those people seems to like them also. Maybe Kyle will get one at some point though.
can you re-use the salvant
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You say it's idiot proof...lol. I put a shitload of grease on mine and it never really feels like it's "stuck" on there right, but my bike hasn't fallen apart yet.
thanks for the video bro 👊
How big is that fuel tank??
would WD40 be fine for spraying after cleaning or its needed a special filter oil?
special filter oil only
notoil oil, warm water with dish soap and vaseline.
Helpfullllll. Thanks
you so need to review the husqvarna!
Another good video. What is the Stegpegz for?
Nuno Alcaide lets u grip ur bike better with the sides of ur legs, im not crazy about them but some ppl love them.
There really good for whoops and deasert style but there a bit restrictive in very technical stuff
Can you store oiled filters aswell? or do they need to be dry
Yes, but put them in a plastic bag.
Alfred storing oiled is best man! Get a bunch done and you will have such an easy season!
Thanks evryone, i'm going to keep them stored after oiling them all.
Очень подробно. Спасибо!
Do you have to oil the air filter and if so what happens to it of you don’t oil it
Lolll try it out .... I don’t think you will like what eventually happens
I have never oiled it before and I have rode for a few years
I am 6ft and 13 years old, for trail riding should I get a 250 or 300
There's hardly a difference, completely up to you.
to be honest man you should get into a 125.
Neither. Get a 125. You're way too young. I'm guessing that because you're asking online that you are new to bikes so the 250 and 300 are probably way too powerful for a beginner
too much work to save 20$
ARidingLifestyle not probably ...they are to powerful for a beginner forsure lol
Dawn dish soap boys and girls.
great video
One thing to note: KTM's new design for securing the air filter is horrible. By securing a "diamond" shaped cage on two ends made of plastic, it does allow for the cage to bow and gap on the side. Grease is almost mandatory with this design.
Also note: If you use a TwinAir air box wash cover, stuff several clean shop towel's down in the box prior to installing the cover and after a wash, you'll see just how much water still sneaks by with the towels being very wet even with no direct water pressure to the area.
Shecki i do exactly that even with the wash cover the shop towels i stuff down there are always pretty soaked with water. you explained that pefectly and thats exactly what is wrong with these filter , the screw down filters were better.
That solvent looks suspiciously similar to simple green -_-
Thank you. I love it when bullshit gets busted.
It puts the peanut butter on the FILTER!!
i have honda crf 70 and im 10
nice video
Great video for noobs like me
Try Husky, Kyle.
I ride alone .. no dust . Lol . An air filter can last a whole season without needing cleaning when you ride alone .
way to much grease lol all u need is a very thin layer.
I was thinking same. I guess he put same amount of grease that he uses that bean butter.
Tikkikoira lol and that filter he took out of his bike was gross , that was way passed due for a changing, unless of course that was from one good ride but i doubt it cause its pretty dry where he rides, that looked like a 50 hr filter hahah
That was after 1 ride brother. 1 very dusty 6 hour trail ride.
Dirt Bike Channel wow ive gone most of the day through nasty mud a couple of ft deep on quad trails and mine barely had mud on it when i got home.
Okay brother, But DAT GREASE doe.. :D
Don’t waste a bunch of money on marketing and fancy labels. Buying a purpose made air filter oil is justifiable to me....but the other products are not. Buy a jug of generic mineral spirits for cleaning the filters....lots of big reasons not to use gas. The generic mineral spirits will las you years. As far as the grease. Just buy a regular tube or jar of lithium complex grease from Walmart. I just use the stuff in my grease gun for my tractor (mobile 1 lithium ).
That's your gripe with the pegs setup? Taking an extra two minutes.. Boy oh boy, don't we have first world problems. Seeing that you don't change an air filter every day, I believe it's well worth that extra two minutes.
You use wayy way too much grease 😅
Your bike run rich? That filter is sooooo over oiled
Putting grease on a filter is never the right thing to do unless you wanna make a mess. Use no toil dude.
It really isn’t that bad of a mess, and when you run brand new bikes you tend to be ridiculously particular with some debatably unnecessary practices
i usually clean my filter in gasoline
Gašper Blažek terrible idea it is very harsh and will perish the layers of the foam
I did that for most my youth, it will break down the filter glue allegedly but by that time the filters junk anyways. I don't suggest it but its really not that terrible. At least for the filter (should use gloves though ;) and nothing gets them that clean other than buying a new one. Does nothing to the foam itself on a stock honda, UNI or twin air filter at least after years of cleaning multiple times a week in cheap 87 octane. Now more ethanol is used here but shouldn't matter on a filter.
It will not. I have been using gas for years and have never had one filter fail. Kyle's method of cleaning is insufficient. If you are paranoid about using harsh chemicals like gas or mineral spirits, use 99% bio-diesel. I used bio-diesel for a year or so and it works great and is no more corrosive to the skin than sugar. It is harder to come by in smaller towns, but is readily available in a big cities.
Gašper Blažek. The only problem with gasoline is it makes your hands smell like it. All that you really have to do bud is spray the whole thing down with Simple Green let it sit five minutes and rinse it out with hot water. That's way easier and soaking it in that bucket like but he showed all of us. Can I spray my filter down with K&N oil have been doing this on my micro sprint and numerous dirt bikes for over 20 years and it's never been an issue is getting dirt and the carburetor
I've been cleaning them in gas for over 40 years. Gas is more dangerous but does a better job of cleaning because it isn't oily. Foam rubber don't like oil. I don't put much oil on the filter, which is why my filters last a long time. Oil makes foam rot quickly.
I had no idea you needed to clean your air filter and my bike blew up 🤦
Please review the Husqvarna FE250 next, please Kyle!
I have a 17 FE250!!! yeaaa buddy!
Question I use Diesel to clean which works great (in my opinion) however I don't use oil or the grease is this bad? (2017 KTM 500 6 days)
The grease around the skirt isn’t necessary. But you should always oil your filter. Especially on a bike as nice as yours. Without oil, the filter is almost useless. I recommend just getting a spray on oil. Whatever you can get will work though
I always have the second filter oiled and ready to go. I put it in a Ziploc for later. If you have a long weekend of riding and it's been dusty you're ready to go. I also lightly grease the airbox. You would be amazed how much dirt gets stuck to the airbox walls. Thanks for the video.
Kyle: Everytime I see you riding in the Dez it breaks my heart. I spent 25 years in Rock Springs, WY riding/racing Husky's, and Yams with recreational riding on XR's. I'm now in Kansas with no real place to ride......I'm 72 years old and need to get back to my roots. I'd guess you're down in Utah by the looks of the terrain.....I used to sneak down and ride some down there....really great country. I'm a KTM fan but would really like to try a Sherco before I die. How do you like it? Keep the Faith, Tom P.S. Wonder how many filters I've cleaned in my lifetime.....
Tom Nekuda I live in rock springs!!!
@@AnZa05 Good riding up on White Mountain......lot's of fast trails with plenty of rocks if that's what you want. My fave ride used to take me down the canyon, past all the cliffs and on down to Green River. I'd give anything to ride that again. Good riding to you Andrea.
Aye more rock springs people
Hey tom! Shercos are good bikes mate. I live in south austraila and there getting really popular here. I love mine. Hard to say what i like more compared to my yz450f
Kyle... Nicely done. Two other steps that are great to practice...
1... Cover the intake with a boot and wash the air box after you remove the filter. Especially in areas where you encounter some mud, it keeps you from getting dirt in the intake during the process of putting the filter back on. On those bikes you mentioned that have filters with a tricky fit, it's very beneficial.
2... After the solvent, use Dawn dishwashing liquid to help remove even more dirt. The solvent breaks down the oil and removes a lot, but the dawn get them even cleaner and does a better job of removing remaining solvent.
Cheers.
yea the solvent alone doesn't get the filter 100% clean,You can toss the filter in the washer with old rags to get it good as new, then air dry or ...n a 5 gallon bucket with some warm water and dawn dishwashing liquid and you're good to go!
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Been doing the Dawn step for years. Also I have always kept at least two filters per bike. Usually a clean one in a ziplock.
I just use gas it's super easy and seems fine to me.
Thanks, for sharing some how to videos on upkeep and maintenance as some of us are novices in these departments for sure! Great content thank you!
dish soap works great too. breaks down the old oil and dirt very easily
Howdy do, I love your vidoes!! I know I’m a few years late, but if you do find this comment, help please! 🤣
So instead of the regular cleaner for the air filter Iv been using warm water and dawn dishsoap, is that okay? I obviously still oil it and whatnot, just making sure it’s okay to clean it with that dishsoap, thanks! 😁
Best dirt biking maintenance thing I've ever done was to switch from solvent based oil to alcohol based No Toil. I'd argue that the ease of cleaning helps you keep the filters cleaner, so that overall it works better. than solvent based. I'll never go back to solvent based oil again.
i use warm water and dishsoap and let it dry then spray with motul air filter spray (every 10 hours)
Works very well for years
The one thing I’m very particular about. When I was racing I replaced the filter every race. Got sick of cleaning then and had filters everywhere. Now I just have two and replace half way through the day if it’s really dusty.
What do you do with the old solvent when you're done?
Drink it
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What do you think of NoToil products?
Hi I have a 2009 kx 250f and I think it mite be loosing compression how would I now for shour that it is pls help me I am a 15 year old in need of help
The benefits of Stegs and the time they are used on the bike far outway 1 minute of tools to remove the filter
I have a video coming out on that in 2 days. I review the Steg Pegz.
@@DirtBikeChannel you dont need to losen the u-bolts on mine just undo the subframe bolt and swing it out the way the u-bolt doesn't need to be so tight
Quick question… at about $30 per can for the Twin Air filter cleaner…do you filter the ‘just used’ oil, putting it back in the can or ???. With the plastic piece in the wash tub, all of the sediment would be in the bottom and allow straining/filtering the cleaner. Curious… I know that if we own high end bikes…we can afford the upkeep/maintenance. Big point due to hazmat liabilities 😎
I have two air filters for my bike and I'm not sure how but I always end up with two dirty ones.
Like most of us you like to ride more than you like to clean.
Buy 20 of them and wash them wen are too many with dirt on it.
Hi.I am in the United Kingdom.
Could you tell me why when working on your bikes everything is called Mine..?
EG. My tank, my wrench, my Forks..
Here in the UK we would say the tank, the Spanner, the forks....
We know the bike is yours,
Just seems strange
Cheers
Trevor
I've tried using that Maxima Waterproof grease, but it is so thick that it just strings everywhere and I can't spread it at all. Maybe because it's been really cold here. I need to find a different grease
verry informative! great video! Did you do the open modification to your airbox by drilling holes in the subframe like in the Slaven video? Im wondering if i let my airbox alone or if i should do the mod, bike is still brand new, 0.1h on the hour meter