Ringing The Changes by Robert Aickman

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  • Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024

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  • @JustFamilyThings
    @JustFamilyThings 8 месяцев назад +7

    This one is deeply unsettling. I’m glad you include Aickman in your podcast, despite his stories lack of actual “ghosts.”

  • @BarbaraJV1
    @BarbaraJV1 8 месяцев назад +4

    Absolutely love this story. The way it’s written and narrated, is extremely unsettling and you can literally smell the odour described in this.
    I think this is my favourite yet 👍

  • @MartiWilliams-r2z
    @MartiWilliams-r2z 9 дней назад

    Disturbing, gripping,unsettling, troubling, also this time. Getting re-knowing Aickman with new eyes/ears. New level of learning from commentary. As always. Much appreciated, Tony. Thank you.

  • @gerardkiff2026
    @gerardkiff2026 Год назад +6

    I don’t think anyone appreciates the now until you hit 50. Now is everything. You can’t relive the past and hoping for a better future is futile. Just live now and enjoy the moment and be present.

  • @victoriadiesattheend.8478
    @victoriadiesattheend.8478 8 месяцев назад +2

    This is one of the few ghost stories that I return to again and again with the same fascination I felt the very first time I heard you read it. It brought me to Robert Aickman. Thank you for making it possible for me to hear it read to me, as many times as I like. There is a charm to someone reading me ghost stories that no other genre can evoke for me. No other type of audible book or short story can make me feel as much a child as a deep, reassuring voice reading me ghost stories. It really transports me and for that you have my gratitude.

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  8 месяцев назад

      I am very honoured that I brought you to Robert Aickman.

  • @gillps5130
    @gillps5130 Год назад +4

    I imagined every moment of your story telling here and especially the pub hotel which was so exactly as you describe them in those post 1950 years. I will never forget the dingy carpet in a Bodmin hotel over forty years ago or my mother's description of an unhappy forty year old couple running a seaside hotel in the seventies. A wonderful analysis/rumination at the end.

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад +1

      If you ever read W G Sebald's Rings of Saturn he talks about a meal he had in grim Suffolk seaside hotel. I remember that kind of place too.

  • @Stratollac
    @Stratollac Год назад +13

    Thank you for introducing me to an unfamiliar author. If this is at all typical of the quality of his work, I'll be eager to read/hear more.
    I enjoy the way the ringing bells ratchet up the tension with their maddening cacophony, but their sudden silence signifies something even worse.
    As always, your narration is exceptional. Well done, Tony!

  • @michaelg548
    @michaelg548 Год назад +7

    Thanks so much for this! I love Robert Aickman -- he has such a gift for taking the most mundane situations and somehow making them subtly, but deeply, disturbing.

  • @nalunoa
    @nalunoa Год назад +5

    Wow! One of my very favorites, and a fantastic reading at that. How I love Aikman. And I agree with all you said about him and his works as well. One of my favorites of your post-story analyses here.
    Also, I hope you were able to pass on to Mr. Critchly how much some of us appreciate his patronage and the excellent readings it facilitates.
    I too shall join the ranks of your patrons as soon as I am in a position to do so.
    As ever, thank you so much for all you do, good sir. I appreciate you very much.
    Lastly, wishing you a wonderful holiday journey!

  • @Elder-Witch299
    @Elder-Witch299 Год назад +4

    Thank you Tony, brilliantly done. You're right, unsettling is the word for it. Your explanations afterwards really made me think.

  • @judithl.morton9178
    @judithl.morton9178 8 месяцев назад +2

    This is one of my favorite stories. Now. This was good. It held my attention and suspense in my breath. I really appreciate it. I hope you do more. Hope I can find More of his Stories. Thank you❤

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  8 месяцев назад

      I’ve done e any 3 Aickman stories . maybe more

  • @beyondbodywork9590
    @beyondbodywork9590 Год назад +43

    I'm too poor to be a patron, but I'd like to suggest a story. It might not be to your taste, or you might not feel that it fits in with the other stories on the channel, that you were mentioned of reading a story by someone better known as a poet made me think of "The Tree" by Dylan Thomas. Not a ghost story, but a very unsettling story that you might at least enjoy yourself even if you never read it for us listeners.

  • @rosiemcnaughton9933
    @rosiemcnaughton9933 Год назад +1

    Enjoyed this faintly unsettling story. Thank you, Tony.

  • @martiwilliams4592
    @martiwilliams4592 2 месяца назад

    Never tire of reliving this tale, your vivid narration, learning each time with new "eyes". Much appreciated, masterful as always. Thank you.

  • @martiwilliams4592
    @martiwilliams4592 Год назад +1

    Still a favorite, vivid narration. Thank you.

  • @ch00p
    @ch00p Год назад +2

    One of my favorite short stories of all time! Excellent work

  • @jr-h1895
    @jr-h1895 Год назад +3

    Nice one! Glad to see some more Aikman content, and great narration. Really interesting analysis at the end as well, and I'm glad you mentioned Kafka. I could talk for ages about them both, but if nothing else something I've always appreciated about Aikman is him bringing some of the dreamlike, "unease of small differences" kind of feeling that runs through Kafka into a British, post-war context.
    I think Aikman was a master at identifying those sort of queasy undercurrents of anxiety in day to day life and interpersonal relationships, and using literary sleight of hand to intensify them to the point of unreality and the uncanny, but without it ever feeling like there's been much of a suspension of disbelief required at any one step (there's exceptions of course). You end up with this dreamlike mix of archetype and mundane reality, which I think is so unsettling because you can't quite put your finger on what, if anything has happened at the end. Hopefully I can afford to subscribe to the Patreon soon, it sounds great.

  • @wisdomoftheearlychristians2037
    @wisdomoftheearlychristians2037 Год назад +7

    Lovely narration as always Tony; when i hear of a town where " time" matters less, it puts me in mind of Negotium Perambulans and John Silence in Ancient Sorceries by Blackwood.

    • @suecondon1685
      @suecondon1685 Год назад +1

      I read your sentence referring to 'time matters less' at the exact moment when Tony's narration read 'time matters less'! That felt a bit uncanny!

    • @wisdomoftheearlychristians2037
      @wisdomoftheearlychristians2037 Год назад

      @@suecondon1685 That is odd.

    • @paulamalone493
      @paulamalone493 9 месяцев назад

      ❤I

  • @sunflowerhelen9933
    @sunflowerhelen9933 Год назад +1

    Thank you for reminding me to appreciate the "now". I've gotten more conscious lately of being present with my husband or other loved ones when they want to engage. Just put down the phone or pause to reflect on what I'm experiencing. Best wishes, as always.

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад

      this is my lesson in my current Ridgeway walk

  • @martiwilliams4592
    @martiwilliams4592 Год назад

    Gripping, surreal horror, also this time around--will listen again and again. Thank you, Tony, Masterful as always

  • @GrumpyScotsman
    @GrumpyScotsman Год назад +1

    The narrative once again captivates with its charming and delightful storytelling. It truly transports the reader to a world of imagination and wonder.

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад +1

      +Grumpy Scotsman you don’t sound so grumpy

    • @GrumpyScotsman
      @GrumpyScotsman Год назад +1

      @@ClassicGhost Back in the day, my folks used to call me "That" since I was always nose-deep in a book and totally oblivious to everything else.

  • @lyndabrennan4560
    @lyndabrennan4560 Год назад +6

    Thank you Tony, always enjoy listening to the stories you narrate 💙💛💚

  • @CharlieOkeson
    @CharlieOkeson Год назад +2

    Excellent timing; I'm going for a nap 😊

  • @lewisdarleyillustration
    @lewisdarleyillustration Год назад +2

    One of my favourites! Excellent work

  • @amandalee215
    @amandalee215 Год назад +1

    What a wonderful start to the Bank holiday weekend thank you Tony

  • @lindaellis4411
    @lindaellis4411 Год назад +6

    I enjoy your story’s and your voice is excellent.

  • @stardust949
    @stardust949 Год назад +1

    Fantastic Reading as well as thoughtful Ramble afterwards! Really loved it, never read or heard of this story before, thank you so much.

  • @izzylewis3998
    @izzylewis3998 Год назад

    I love this narrator and unusual stories .I’ve listened to a few, a particular one was set in Ireland which centred round a house party in the 1800s called something like all the dead. Excellent.

  • @claudiaquintero2937
    @claudiaquintero2937 8 месяцев назад

    Excellent story and excellent commentary. Thank you so much, I will seek more of his work out.

  • @anneinnes5691
    @anneinnes5691 Год назад

    I love the stories you choose.. but more than that, I love your philosophical meanderings post-story. I enjoy each story at face value but I particularly enjoy your deeper explorations /history of both story and author. Please keep up the good work .

  • @MaggieatPlay
    @MaggieatPlay Год назад +4

    Thank you, Tony! Excellent story, well narrated. Enjoyed the end ramble, as always. Wishing you a pleasant holiday.

  • @BostonBaby1000
    @BostonBaby1000 9 месяцев назад

    I enjoy the stories, but really, I could just listen to your voice all day.

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  9 месяцев назад

      +@BostonBaby1000 i have hundreds of hours of me droning on now !

  • @maggiedaniels9562
    @maggiedaniels9562 Год назад +2

    Always loved this story, and Aickman. BTW, I just watched the film, for the first time, where your opening lines come from. A real happy surprise when I heard the actors voice these lines.

  • @SmallWonda
    @SmallWonda Год назад

    Ripping yarn! Your delivery as ever, is impeccable - I remember pubs like this!!

  • @esmewitch
    @esmewitch Год назад

    Thank you for this, I love Aikman.

  • @snipehunter4771
    @snipehunter4771 Год назад +1

    I’m so excited to listen to this, I’ve been hoping you’d do this one for ages!

  • @gerardkiff2026
    @gerardkiff2026 Год назад +1

    Very nice. Had me to the end . Thank you.

  • @martiwilliams4592
    @martiwilliams4592 7 месяцев назад

    Just as disturbing this time around. Thank you for all you do.

  • @Tinyflypie
    @Tinyflypie Год назад +1

    Thanks Tony

  • @jenb326
    @jenb326 Год назад

    Lovely! I enjoy all your work. Thank you and God bless! 😊

  • @sueamos3860
    @sueamos3860 Год назад +1

    You have a great voice,very nice to listen to

  • @melaniegorny5457
    @melaniegorny5457 10 месяцев назад

    Stumbled across your channel, wonderful thank you!!!

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  10 месяцев назад

      You are so welcome! Glad you did.

  • @tonietteh2015
    @tonietteh2015 Год назад

    I LOVE this story and it's made all the more wonderful by your superb narration ❤

  • @5tsumi13
    @5tsumi13 Год назад +1

    Just in time to wind down tonight! Thank you Tony for the new recording! New subscriber and I love your content, the narration is second to none. Awesome job!😊

  • @willowwobble
    @willowwobble Год назад +1

    Thanks for posting. In some was it is similar to listening to the British news, lots of bizarre, scary and evil events, but at least this is fiction, not reality!

  • @lzeph
    @lzeph Год назад

    That was fun! Love the commentary. Sometimes that's the best part.
    Re "this is now" -- best place for me to learn this was in the shower. Figured that, more so than any other place, there was absolutely no reason for my mind to be anywhere else. Started there, practiced it regularly, and then it became easier for me to find other 'now' moments wherever I am. No matter how it's achieved, I think it's well worth learning. Good for you!

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад +1

      +lzeph there a guy called Ed Muzika who also relates to the shower awakening. you can get his story for free if you google

  • @ronaldmussulman2735
    @ronaldmussulman2735 Год назад

    Wow, very unique. Really liked it. Thank you Tony.

  • @thelastsausage635
    @thelastsausage635 Год назад

    I really loved this story!!! They were such a sweet young couple caught up in a nightmarish situation… the bells were so menacing… and where was the sea???? Deliciously creepy ❤

  • @barriemitchell7460
    @barriemitchell7460 8 месяцев назад

    Just stumbled across this story. Brilliant stuff, happy to give you your 1000th like for this story!

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  8 месяцев назад

      I didn’t realise it had got so many! thank you :)

  • @evelanpatton
    @evelanpatton Год назад +1

    I ❤ your NEW merch ARTWORK!
    It really reflects the spooky stories! 🪭📚🗣️📖
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  • @gametheorymedia
    @gametheorymedia Год назад +3

    YES; always more Aickman, please! (Also: Is there a reading of yours of 'The Hospice' available to us regular, non-Subscription, viewers yet? If it has previously been put on YT, it doesn't seem to be easy to find...) Thanks for posting this, and do keep up the good work!

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад +5

      no that’s still members only . i love got to keep sone stuff to tempt people to sign up :)

  • @loumarlow7295
    @loumarlow7295 Год назад +1

    Wonderful thankyou. I was suitably unsettled yes!😊 Enjoy your ramble. It sounds very folktale. The places you mentioned brought to mind Ray Feist's Fairy Tale. I hope you get to spot some fey folk❤

  • @SC-jh9qp
    @SC-jh9qp Год назад +3

    I was able to read along in my Pan, The Third Ghost Book, 1955

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад +1

      that makes me nervous :)

    • @SC-jh9qp
      @SC-jh9qp Год назад

      @@ClassicGhost Don't worry you read it beautifully and really brought it to life. You did accidentally miss one short line and an s ending on a word but it didn't affect the narrative at all. Great work, love your stuff 👍❤️

  • @deewhite4346
    @deewhite4346 Год назад

    Brilliant thank you

  • @violetfemme411
    @violetfemme411 Год назад +1

    OK soooo, I watched Jeepers Creepers b4 coming to bed (bad idea #1.) Then got under the covers with lights out and listened to this (not for the 1st time, but I must say wayyyy creepier than I remembered.) So thanks for the chills Tony...awesome narration. And I wholeheartedly agree with your take on Aikman...dude FREAKS me out 😮😳💀💜 Nightmare fuel for sure.

    • @wisdomoftheearlychristians2037
      @wisdomoftheearlychristians2037 Год назад

      You want to hear something creepy? 2 weeks or so ago, I woke up at 3am because my dog was growling behind the pink arm chair in my room; hobbled over there with my cane to find a huge solid black 4 foot long snake about 3 inches in diameter, head raised ready to strike. I don't live in snake country ( NJ) and also there is a 15 foot staircase just to get up to my apt. ( the only apt. In town because this is farm country). Suffice it to say I was sufficiently freaked@@@@@😢

    • @violetfemme411
      @violetfemme411 Год назад +1

      @WisdomoftheEarlyChristians Wow...sounds like a Corn Snake. They're completely harmless. I've always had a thing for reptiles so snakes don't scare me (but most people do have a phobia so that must have been terrifying for you) 🫨🫢🫣 It would most likely eat any creepy crawlies, mosquitoes and other pests. But again I understand the phobia. For me it's spiders...arrrrghhhh.

    • @wisdomoftheearlychristians2037
      @wisdomoftheearlychristians2037 Год назад +1

      @@violetfemme411 well, then you would have freaked if you had seen the huge wolf spider I found on my chest in the middle of the night. I instinctively swatted it with my hand sideways (not really knowing what it was) and heard it hit the wall with a " thwack " sound. This was scarier than having the thing crawling on me, because I realized how big it had to be to make a noise like that. So, I had to turn on the lights and go looking for it. It was a huge Wolf spider the size of a tarantula.
      Now, I unashamedly sleep with the light on. I don't really have a snake or spider phobia, but it's one thing to have these things as pets living in terrariums or cages or whatever (where you know where they are), and quite another to wake up in the dark and find them crawling on you in your bed.
      Between all of the in-house livestock I've encountered in the past year: huge queen bees in the spring ( carpenter bees), spiders, cave crickets, snakes and mice, I don't think I'll ever sleep in the dark again, lol.

    • @violetfemme411
      @violetfemme411 Год назад +1

      @WisdomoftheEarlyChristians lol...most definitely would have packed up and moved if I'd encountered the Wolf Spider 🕷 I even had a problem inserting that tiny icon taking care not to touch it. I think you need to move to a sky rise apartment. 😵‍💫🤯 Or start sleeping in a hazmat suit.

    • @wisdomoftheearlychristians2037
      @wisdomoftheearlychristians2037 Год назад +1

      @@violetfemme411 lol, not a bad idea. I moved out of the city a long time ago, because I grew up in an urban area, and i absolutely CANNOT deal with roaches; and despite how hard you try, depending on your neighbors, roaches just play Whack a mole when you live in a city, while the exterminators chase them back and forth from one house to another. I still have PTSD from stepping on a palmetto bug with my bare foot during a Florida vacation; I am also freaked out by snakes, scorpions, rats, etc. So this is why I pay the exorbitant rates of living in NJ; because this state isn't high on the list of vermin, or of hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and all that.
      I'm only staying until my husband retires, and then I'll look for the most vermin free area I can find, lol. In the meantime, hazmat suit with the lights on will have to do (or maybe I should just buy some kind of weasel/ferret). Don't they attack snakes and all of that? i'll call him the Snakinator; because I don't know that my heart could withstand another snake ; or I could just ship the snake to you, and you can keep him for a pet, lol. Actually, the snake might have eaten the mouse my dog caught; literally right by my bare feet!
      I have a Sheltie and I saw him put one paw out very quickly right by my feet; I looked down and saw he had a mouse pinned there (what are the odds). (He was born and raised on an Amish farm, but has PTSD when it comes to turkeys, horses, roosters, etc. so farm life was not for him. He failed "farm dog 101", lol, but I guess he passed mouse catching. )So, I reached down, grabbed the mouse by the tail and brought him outside. You can't avoid mice in the country; but I can deal with a mouse better than roaches. I am with roaches the way you are with spiders. I'd have to move.

  • @DanHunterSportsWriter
    @DanHunterSportsWriter 5 месяцев назад +1

    Really excellent stuff Tony! This is a genuinely disturbing tale, and it had me recounting The Wicker Man, Midsommar, even Day of the Dead!!
    Just when it seemed the girl had been sacrificed, the creepy old Commandant emerged as the hero of the piece.
    I'm wondering if this story was influential to a host of 20th century film makers.

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  5 месяцев назад +1

      I am going to do another one of his soon

  • @bethpemberton7980
    @bethpemberton7980 Год назад +1

    I think my favorite part is the analysis and biograph at the end. Oh, and your plummy voice.

  • @kennyglesga
    @kennyglesga Год назад

    A new find for me, Classic GHOST STORIES - dead and lovin' it, as Dracula would say.

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад +1

      +kennyglesga i think he did say that

  • @annetteeggett
    @annetteeggett Год назад

    Am in flat East Anglia. Looking forward to this. Also would love to walk deliciously 😃👻♥️

  • @nicholasgerrish6022
    @nicholasgerrish6022 Год назад +3

    Poor old Gerald, married to a girl who is plainly too young for him, and who finds himself cuckolded by very lusty, but dead Seamen, an experience which she appears to have relished….
    Certainly not the sort of experience that Gerald would like to think about too much.

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад +1

      Aickman was so good at that kind of unease.

    • @chikaka2012
      @chikaka2012 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, interesting. It’s disturbing in that way but also because of the almost childlike characteristics of Frin.

  • @Glow_is_Not_Impressed
    @Glow_is_Not_Impressed 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  7 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you very much

    • @Glow_is_Not_Impressed
      @Glow_is_Not_Impressed 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@ClassicGhost you’re welcome, Tony. You do the best readings.

  • @elizabethflynr7561
    @elizabethflynr7561 3 месяца назад

    Hey Tony, ever considered doing a reading of Thomas Ligotti’s short story, Conversations in a Dead Language? I think you’d do it proud!

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  3 месяца назад

      i’d probably have to have his permission and though he may give me his position ( or he might not) his agent probably wouldn’t allow me as someone will have the contract to produce his audiobooks

  • @marymcswain9875
    @marymcswain9875 Год назад +2

    I have heard the locked drawer before and wants to hear it again but I can't find it. Can you share the link?

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад +1

      +mary mcswain i don’t have a link but it’s from Psychomania

  • @Story-Voracious66
    @Story-Voracious66 Год назад +2

    "Phryne", I have always been taught to pronounce it 'Fry nee'.
    As it is in Kerry Greenwood's Miss Fisher murder mysteries series of books and television series.
    I agree with you wholeheartedly on Wodehouse but absolutely must disagree on this one. I have known of the ancient courtesan Phryne for man years.
    Thanks for the story and the ramble , loved it. You never disappoint.
    👍

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад +2

      +April Wakefield i think you’re probably right about Phrynne

  • @elizabethflynr7561
    @elizabethflynr7561 3 месяца назад

    This is one of my favorite stories.
    Glad ya got your wallet back, Tony!

  • @sugarfalls1
    @sugarfalls1 Год назад

    You do a really good creepy voice! lol I am listening to this and I am about to go to sleep! lol Not the best thing to listen to before bed! Well done, Tony! Seems like everybody capitalized on Edgar Allan Poe's bells!

    • @ClassicGhost
      @ClassicGhost  Год назад +1

      +sugarfalls1 it’s an eerily disturbing story

    • @sugarfalls1
      @sugarfalls1 Год назад +1

      @@ClassicGhost I'm happy to say I had no nightmares! lol Enjoy your trip, btw! See how long I listen? lol It's all worth it. Reminds me of my rambling Aquarian self. 😋

  • @thurayya8905
    @thurayya8905 Год назад

    **Spoilers** don't read until after the story
    I had great curiosity about what would happen. The author lets you in on the town secret about a third of the way; you know what's in the air (pun intended). But, what would they do? We have our late modern preconception from "Night of the Living Dead", which was released in 1965, the same year as this story, but very different actions. Here, we are presented with singing and dancing, two normally joyous activities that you need breath and physical vigor for, two qualities that are not enjoyed by the dead. There is much noisy breakage and vandalism, also the battering and bruising of our major character. How could a rotted body possibly accomplish this? Hmmmmm. The major does "what had to be done". No idea what that was. I don't think it is the dead that comes to life once a year in this town.

  • @kathleenellenford4816
    @kathleenellenford4816 10 месяцев назад

    👏🏻👏🏻

  • @Thomas-wn7cl
    @Thomas-wn7cl 10 месяцев назад +1

    👍

  • @travinstelon
    @travinstelon Год назад

    Please explain the ending

  • @johnguillory7759
    @johnguillory7759 Год назад +1

    ...and similar to Shirly Jackson

  • @cherylruhr6001
    @cherylruhr6001 Год назад

    The two women were interesting to me. The landlady wore a literal mask of makeup. Kept herself drunk was tied an awful husband and job. Frin ran to the sea, stayed the night, opened her legs to the fire. I don't think the landlady was jealous of her pretty body so much as frin's freedom

    • @jeank.7527
      @jeank.7527 Год назад +1

      I just finished listening to the story. It is an interesting contrast between the two female characters. I also enjoyed the not-so-happy ending…seems that the young wife found something new in herself on the night of the “dance”, and things will never be the same between her and the husband again.

    • @travinstelon
      @travinstelon Год назад

      @@jeank.7527explain please?

  • @jeank.7527
    @jeank.7527 Год назад +1

    Thank you for this story Tony, and what an ending (looks like something got into the wife in the end…)

  • @KayBacci
    @KayBacci 5 месяцев назад

    Tony, the name 'Phryne' is pronounced 'Fry-nee'.

  • @Serenity_Dee
    @Serenity_Dee Год назад +3

    Hearing that Peterson wrote academically about the discomfort of the perceived violation of expectations before he torched his academic career because he couldn't handle singular "they" is a hell of a thing. That he compared it to a wolf pack is already foreshadowing how his brain would rot, because wolf packs in the wild aren't socially complex hierarchies, they're a mated pair, their unmated offspring, and sometimes an auntie or uncle who is more distantly related to one of the parents, and the rules about who eats first are dead simple: the youngest, smallest members of the pack are prioritized. There's no such thing as an alpha wolf in the wild; the wolves that this model was based on were in captivity and were highly stressed because they were essentially a bunch of random strangers forced to live together. It was like if you based all your psychological models of humans from the population of a single overcrowded prison.
    Also, singular "they" has been in English since before Chaucer - it was borrowed from Old Norse, in fact, which is a *really weird* thing to do for an Indo-European language, especially one in the European group, because they tend to be *really* conservative with pronouns. As in, English has had mostly the same pronouns, allowing for sound changes, since its earliest attested forms, except that the original singular epicene (i.e. not marked as masculine or feminine but still high enough in the animacy hierarchy to not be an "it") third person pronoun, along with the plural third person pronoun, was deprecated in favor of that borrowed one, presumably because the originals sounded too similar to other third-person pronouns, causing too much ambiguity in ordinary use. Depending on the declension, for example, the singular epicene sounded exactly like the singular feminine. If you're not quite following, think about it kinda like words like "y'all": because we stopped using "thou," which was informal and singular ("you" was originally a plural and formal second person, like "tu" vs "vous" in French), we started coming up with ways to pluralize "you" to disambiguate singular vs plural second person.

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV Год назад +5

      You're arguing about simple Syntax and wrong Metaphores to construct an Ad Hominem fallacy, but not the argument itself.
      The point that Peterson is arguing is about politics and presnt idealogue that totally disregard Empirical Science. Studies about gender have been totally misconstrued by the government and self-serving organization when there are thousands of studies and research, whether by biology, psychology, physichiatry, sociology, genetics, history... all point to the opposite. This is absolute fact. No amount of modern pseudo-science can change that. Years from now these zeitgeist ideas will be quickly be dispensed as another historical absurdity.
      He's concerned, and every sane person must be, that present governments are making laws that crimilizes people that question or opposes a government sanctioned thought, specially a thought that is scientifically flawed. It similar how past government and monarchies would advocate a state-sponsored religion. Now it's a new kind of religion, better embrace it or else. It's regressive and tyrannical. Everything must be up for debate no matter what, in democratic country (or something trying to be one)
      Peterson specifically say that in regard to gender identity, he totally support it if it's a personal thing, he has no right to impose upon on how you should live your life and on how you want to be treated, free from any abuse or indignity... but, such beliefs must not be imposed on others to nor force them to agree with it. The Feminist movement have fought long and hard to win their battle just to see it crumble with inerudite modernity. This is a problem with most schools and universities, even if they choose to ignore true objective science with more present theoretical science, they must always open for objection and debate from students, teacher and professors without them fearing any censure or injunction. In fact schools must welcome all kinds debate. That is how real Science is formed, with constant appraisal, deliberation and questioning. The fact that most universities refuse to debate on certain thought, shows how little their confidence on such thought would survived a thorough scientific, practical and logical deliberation.

    • @davidwhite7294
      @davidwhite7294 Год назад

      People have always said “they” when they don’t know the gender.

    • @davidwhite7294
      @davidwhite7294 Год назад +1

      Yeah, whilst you,re probably right about most of this. Nobody likes a pedantic know all….keep it short mate, you haven’t said anything I did,nt already know. I think you should bear in mind that this is a story not a documentary about wolves or grammar.

    • @davidwhite7294
      @davidwhite7294 Год назад

      @@inisipisTV This is so long l can’t be bothered to read it, this is a story ,we don’t need a lecture on gender in language.

  • @ajb7786
    @ajb7786 Год назад

    A eye?

  • @michaelsmyth3935
    @michaelsmyth3935 Год назад

    Gerald seems a bit of a chauvinist doofus. Let me deny my significant other information extremely important to their survival.....

    • @chikaka2012
      @chikaka2012 5 месяцев назад +1

      In a lot of ways he’s very controlling & condescending with Frin, who seems almost childlike. Typical for the 1950s perhaps, but it’s interesting that Frin seems to obtain a bit of internal independence after her “dance with the dead.” Also interesting that the marriage never is consummated on that wedding night but there is a question as to what Frin did when she was taken out to dance with the dead (were there any living among them- it’s unclear). It seems at the end that she has some familiarity with the grave diggers, as she gazes at them seductively.

  • @sueforgan7713
    @sueforgan7713 Год назад

    Boring and ridiculous story