The CUT Assist Trophies and Pokemon of Super Smash Bros Ultimate
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- The super smash bros series is known for its larger roster of characters. Despite its large number of characters however, not every character can make it on there. That’s what assist trophies and pokeballs are here for, to represent characters that couldn’t make it onto the roster. In super smash bros ultimate there are 114 characters represented through the assist trophy and pokeball, however that’s not ever assist trophy or pokeball pokemon to exist in the smash series. So join me as I look at smash 64, melee, brawl, and smash 4 to cover the cut assist trophies and pokemon of super smash bros ultimate.
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It's kee-oh-grey
@@memedood why did you cap every word
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To be fair, Venusaur was a stage hazard on Saffron City in 64
took the words out of my mouth, there were a few others too that were stage hazards there and came back as pokeballs in the future like electrode.
@@ClaimSuit Palkia.
@@Nosretep arceus and darkrai too if i remember, spear pillar map for brawl was it?
So was Charmander
@@ClaimSuit Arceus is in the backroom in the stars. Cresselia and the Lake Spirits but no Darkrai.
It was honestly really cool that Charizard, Little Mac, Dark Samus, and Isabelle all got upgraded to playable characters!
Too bad Waluigi is still trapped as an assist trophy 😢
That made me happy
Yeah, they went from being trophies to getting that infamous envelope.
Waluigi has a heart of gold if it wasn't for him giving 3 invites. Wario , daisy and sora would not have made it.
Ayy you again
8:08 When it comes to Wobbuffet, besides Spewpa there is also Pyukumuku, who counters physical attacks like Wobbuffet, but can also be picked up and thrown where it will attack any foes in the path they're thrown in. Which means it does what Wobbuffet did and some more things as well
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Freddy fazbear in the background of the anime image
This was like the one Pokemon i never wanted to see because it rarely did anything and iirc it can actually hit the user.
I love characters getting upgraded to fighters since it is fun seeing an already represented character be more prominent but also it’s nice for fans of said character
I believe that Onyx was cut for the simple reason that it's just a bit too hard to react to. Yes, the rocks don't do much damage and complaining about an item not being balanced is like complaining that grass is green, but they do come down quite quickly, so it could be a bit annoying.
I feel like a better course of action would be like, change the attack, or just make the boulders bigger, slower, and less of them
I think he was cut because in the poke floats stage he appears as a float.
One thing I find funny is that Venusaur wasn't able to learn earthquake until Ruby & Sapphire, which came out after Melee. Out of all the Kanto starters it's the only one that didn't learn it in gens 1 & 2.
9:31-9:34 Ho Ho is in Smash Ultimate. You need to either fight the Ho Ho Spirit(one of the hardest to fight) or play Kalos Pokemon League with hazards on and see if he spawns in the blazing chamber
Ho-oh*
Ah totally forgot about that stage’s gimmick, I play with hazards off too much……
@@octanproductions6492 My bad
@@micahheyward5342 No prob
@@Odyssey_Central Don't worry about it
They might have cut tingle in the transition to ultimate do to the great bay's return,where he is a stage Hazard.But they could have just made it impossible to tingle to Spawn there,just like other assists in the game
I think he should be playable in the next game! Kooloo-Limpa!!
I will forever miss Kat and Ana...I hope they return in the future!!
Kinda miss them too.
I don’t think Marill was replaced by eevee or fletchling but instead piplup and oshawatt. While it does looks different, functionality wise, they seem much more similar. Additionally, they’re all water type pokemon
Charizard went from a Pokeball Pokémon in 64/Melee, graduated into a full on fighter with Pokémon Trainer in Brawl, was left all alone in Smash 3DS/Wii U, and now his trainer came back with his entire team.
Charizard has the most intriguing and fun history out of any Smash Bros fighter. The Smash team always found a way to include them, that’s how popular Charizard is.
Arguably Ridley as well (although I may be biased). He was a rare background effect on Zebes for the 64, in the intro for Melee, as TWO bosses in Brawl’s Subspace Emissary (one regular and one for Meta Ridley), a stage hazard and boss for Smash 4; and finally after so much wait, he finally became a playable character.
@@EuthanizeAllDogswdym boss in smash 4
Good video! It would have been cool if you did like a quick tier list or ranking on which assists/pokemon you'd want to come back most at the end. Like a quick recap kind of thing.
Might consider doing that for the next cut video, we’ll see!
Mr. Resetti not only get laid off when the reset center shut down, but now he's also cut from smash. Life's been rough for the poor overworked guy.
Just a theory, but Starmie might have gotten dropped for Staryu due to a certain redheaded gym leader dropping Starmie from her team just before Gen 2 came around while still using Staryu as her main battler well into Gen 2, so may have become more recognizable.
I would love to see rayquaza as a pokeball Pokémon in the next smash game! I love rayquaza!
Boss
I’d personally love to see Blaziken, Sceptile, Machamp, Bisharp, Yveltal, Zygarde, Frosmoth, or Plusle & Minun!
Seeing weavile in brawl I thought they were so cool and they became my favorite Pokémon for a while
I’d love to see some new gen 9 Pokémon in the next smash game, like:
Gholdengo, who can use meowth’s old coin spew thing.
Annihilape, who deals more/less damage depending on the user’s damage percentage.
The final evo of the starters, who would use their respective special moves. (Flower Trick, Torch Song, Aqua Step)
I feel like if we do get a sixth Smash game (seventh if you count Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U as separate games), Meowscarada will be a playable character with Fuecoco and Quaxly as Poké Ball Pokémon.
Meowscarada is *the* most popular starter of Gen IX, with an easy-to-visualize moveset and a chance to finally get a fully-evolved Grass starter on the roster.
Gholdengo and Annihilape are good ideas tho.
We could also add in Ogerpon who will do four attacks: Ivy Cudgel, using it once for each mask.
@@linhardtvonhevring7262 yeah and pokemon loves sprigatito
Neat video my favourite would have to be Mr Resetti. I normally don’t like the trophies that block the screen but this one’s simply hilarious. I remember back then we used to stop playing the game just to read what he had to say because of how funny it was!
10:47 “He’s just standing there…..MENACINGLY!”
Common W for the goat content creator. Would love to see you explore the changes in functionality for assistant and Pokémon, like Meowth’s Payday change, scizors functionality, mew dropping items, and even things like how it is now possible to spawn multiple assists in ultimate:
ho-oh is in smash ultimate, it can appear on the kalos pokemon league stage when it turns into the flame chamber
Meowth Summon was also in Brawl and Smash 4 and used Pay Day in the same style as Ultimate.
As soon as you mentioned that Unown performed Take Down, I verbally said “Erm actually-“ so I’m glad to hear your brother had the same response
also I’ve been having the same Majora’s Mask vs. TotK crisis lol
Assist Trophies that should be characters: Shadow the Hedgehog, Zero(Z-Buster), Knuckles the Echidna, and Waluigi
I think Krystal and Shovel Knight should also join
Nah
nope. you are wrong.
@@seamino8329 Why's that?
What would waluigi even do, I think that’s a more boring character than people think
I feel like a Cut video that would be really cool is "Cut characters", while yes all of the characters made it to Smash Ultimate, there have been several characters that were:
a) cut from pervious games before being brought back to Ultimate
and
b) Originally intended to be in a different game before being cut from that one
To be fair on Venusaur in Smash 64, it _was_ in Saffron City as one of the Silph Co Pokémon.
Same with Electrode, Porygon, Charmander, and Chansey… again.
Makes sense that Melee used Venusaur, Electrode, and Gen 2 reps that could mimic Porygon and Charmander with Porygon2 and Cyndaquil respectively. Heck, Chikorita functions like Saffron Venusaur _used_ to function.
Little correction for the Brawl section of this video: Brawl actually gave all 3 Legendaries who did nothing before an effect. Upon being spawned, Jirachi would drop a lot of Stickers to collect, Celeby would drop 3 Trophies to collect, and Mew would drop a Music Disc for a new stage song. Nothing much, but neat little fitting gimmicks for Brawl
I think it would be interesting if instead of leaving out most of the Pokemon with similar designs, there is a randomness to which one pops out. But on the first random pull, when the Poke Ball is thrown, similar Pokemon are still in the same slot, just if multiple Pokemon occupy that slot it will choose randomly from that pool. Staryu/Starmie, Marill/Piplup/Oshawot, Koffing/Weezing and Chikorita/Snivy could all be in the game this way while not muddying up the pool of Pokemon.
Charizard, DeDeDe, and Ridley are the only characters in smash that were not Playable originally in the series, but still appeared in every single game in the franchise. Correct me if I'm wrong if there are more!
I was thinking about that while editing too! The only one that MIGHT be added is piranha plant but I can’t remember if he was in melee….
Never mind….. just spent the last 30 seconds googling….. seems piranha plant wasn’t in melee….. 💔💔💔💔💔💔
9:51 I remember one time playing Brawl with a bunch of friends and Torchick got spawned, to which one friend said "That is one hot chick!"
We... didn't know how to respond to that. But it's a recurring joke to this day.
We think the reason why Starmie was changed to Staryu was because of the anime. In the anime, Misty had both a Staryu and a Starmie, but she rarely used Starmie and instead used Staryu more throughout her appearances in the anime. This possibly made Staryu more popular than its evolution, similar to how people remember Psyduck but never really remember Golduck, and they changed it in Smash Melee to be more recognizable, and it just stuck ever since.
If I had to include 5 Pokemon in a future game-
- Magikarp (uses Flail. Flops around and hits fighters with strong knockback like a cross between goldeen and bonsly)
- Mr Mime (builds invisible barrier that last a while)
- Crobat (uses Cross Poison. Fires an X shape shot that will do constant damage. Also, my Gen 2 bias)
- Toxtricity (imagine the Barbara AT but ends with a scream that has pushback)
- Spidops (leaps at fighters to stuns them in place)
For assist trophies-
- Fuzzy (Yoshi series. Touch it, screen gets dizzy)
- Raven Beak/EMMI (can't decide which. Raven Beak behaves similar to how Dark Samus)
- Bandana Dee (jabs and downstabs opponents. Sort of like a more stabby Shovel Knight)
- BotW Zelda/Purah (uses various runes on the Sheikah Slate. Cryo brings up an ice block, magnesis let's her drop an item from on high, Timestop will stop a random fighter in place for a brief moment)
- Something Pokemon related (Like the Yoshi series, it hasn't had any representation in the AT. I'm undecided between Ball Guy, an Ultra Beast, A Space-Time distortion or Lusamine-Nihilego Mother Beast)
The Clefairy jumpscare was perfection
Ow, my freaking ears!! That is the loudest jumpscare ever.
Love waking up on Saturday just to wait for the new odyssey central video to watch
I actually really am legitimately surprised that every pokémon that was added in Smash 4 made it back into Ultimate.
I miss Weavile as it’s one of my favorites
I remember summoning Mr. Resetti and it felt like hours. I hated that assist trophy.
WEVE DONE IT.
MAJORA’S MASK IS NOW #2.
TEARS OF THE KINGDOM W.
YEAH! MAJORA'S MASK SUCKS!!!!!!!! F*CK THE STUPID 3 DAY TIMER!
I hope that they add ceruledge and armarouge to the next smash game, they would be a perfect fit
A Pokemon swordfighter would be crazy, but I bet nobody would still care that much.
We think the reason why Clefairy was cut was because of Togepi. Both use Metronome, but Togepi was more well known and popular and was kinda more well known with Metronome (because of anime). So they probably realized having two Pokemon with the same move was redundant, so they cut Clefairy after Melee for Togepi.
I will forever mourn the loss of Magnus representation 😔
Hopefully if we get another smash game, he'll show up as an assist trophy again (or maybe even playable fighter! He'd be perfect for the role, he'd offer some variety among the kid Icarus reps)
Me and the other two kid Icarus fans despairing over Magnus being cut
😔
17:32 You love to see a Don't Hug Me I'm Scared reference.
i know I'm way late, but i always thought Hitmonlee was the funniest pokemon assist in 64. The sudden jump kick attack paired with it yelling "Seiseiseisei" at the top of its lungs sent me every time. Plus it could be pretty difficult to avoid with how small a majority of 64's stages were, so it made battles a lot more exciting.
Me and my sister always joke around that metagross in smash4 sounds like they're saying "Mitchell".
The reason why Weavile was cut was probably because of Zoroark.
Zoroark was originally gonna be in Smash 4 but then Greninja got Omega popular so plans changed.
Zoroark does the exact same thing as Weavile as a Pokeball
The fact that Elec Man is not only a cut assist trophy but the only Mega Man 1 robot master to not have a remix in Ultimate will always make me scratch my head.
I still perfer Guts Man
I want my Elec Man back 😕
@@Chadmiral At least he's a spirit
The Mid Life Zelda crisis caught me off guard so much
9:08 says Ho-oh shouldn’t come back because it would be redundant having two fire birds. Two entries later: “I’d be alright with Torchic coming back.” Lol
The reason Little Mac was cut was because he was a playable character in Smash 4.
Once it got halfway through, I actually thought that it was just about Pokémon, not the assist trophies
I'm surprised we didn't get any Ultra Beast.
Amazing concept and video ❤
8:24 freddy is just behind a bush
15:20 What's even weirder is that in Smash Run, Lakitu and the Spinies are actually 3D models for some reason. The Cuccos do a similar thing too where in Normal battles, they are 3D, but in Smash Run they are sprites. There are probably more cases of this, but these are the only ones I know.
I played so many hours of brawl with my brother and we NEVER got manaphy in a pokeball. I only knew it existed because it was in the dojo.
7 mins!
Also I have been hoping for this video for a while, thanks!
8:24 why is freddy fazbear in the background?
Your guess is as good as mine.
Koffing is in Smash Run and it does its old pokeball effect as an attack! Tingle appears in the Majora's Mask stage and Ho-Oh is also in the Kalos league.
The funny thing about Dark Samus as an assist had two OBVIOUS moves that could've been translated into a fighter moveset: The homing plasma for a neutral special and the spikes for a down smash.
Wait a minute there is a koffing in super smash Bros for the 3DS only in smash run
I really like the cut ones too for different things
I'd argue that Maril's functionality was more so given to Piplup and Oshawot. They both involve the Pokemon running straight in one direction, pushing anyone that gets in their way.
Also of note, a few Poke Ball and Assist Trophies that were cut from the game they were planned for.
* Melee - Ditto, who we all know was cut from Melee, but finally was implemented in Ultimate.
* Melee - Ducks, yes, Assist Trophies were planned for Melee. The only one we know are the duck hunt ducks, which would have flown around in their classic pattern, hurting fighters.
* Brawl - Ridley, files in Brawl show that Ridley was planned to be an Assist Trophy.
Seeing Pokémon in Melee is so surreal cause I never see this game with items let alone Pokémon
7:53 after all this time, an "erm acktually" actually happened! LESSGO
Some of these cut Pokémon were among my favorites to summon in past Smash games; Hitmonlee, Zapdos, and Weavile were great in 64, Melee, and Brawl.
I also enjoyed Clefairy and her wild Metronome move, although I think that Togepi is more popular. Just a theory...
As for Assist Trophies, the Excitebikers are cute. They can do a ton of damage. I don't understand why Lakitu or Kat and Ana gor cut though; Mario does have plenty of representation, but Lakitu in particular is a fun teammate with his Spinies. Oh well.
Good stuff, Odyssey Central.
Fun fact: Venusaur doesn't learn earthquake in gen 2 but it does in gen 3 onwards. Maybe the pokemon devs took the idea from smash after they made it use it for some reason
Meowth was the only Pokémon to get cut as a Poké Ball character in Melee, then come back in another game as a Poké Ball character again.
This is one of the funniest videos yet
This video appeared in my “continue watching” section even though I never watched it before.
Good job youtube.
Fun Fact: The Way Meowth attacked in Smash 64 still exists in Smash Ultimate with Dedenne
Thank you
I really hope most of these cuts come back
6:04 yes, I too prefer coughing over wheezing . The latter is much more annoying.
You want to know what Assist Trophy I’d like to see? Rambi the Rhino. I know we had Klaptrap in Ultimate, but why not have another?
You totally forgot that the reason why Venusaur wasn't a Pokéball Pokémon in Smash 64 was because he was a stage hazard in Saffron City.
At this point, we need Odyssey Central's brother to cameo in a video
Jirachi doesn't do anything in Brawl, they drop stickers! Mew drops CDs and I think Celebi drops Trophies? Not sure on that last one
Clefairy is probably (part of) the reason that all of the Pokémon in 64 are sprites
THE CLEFAIRY FNAF JUMPSCARE 😂
I think even more than Elec Man's attack being basic, I think he was cut because he didn't have the same iconicness the other guest Assist Trophies had:
* Grayfox: A recurring boss throughout the Solid game who grew to be popular with his unique design
* Shadow and Knuckles: Rivals of Sonic who even got their own games
* Ghosts: Literally the only other characters in the first PAC-MAN game, and one of the most famous examples of bedsheet ghosts
* Guile: One of the playable characters who even got to star in the live-action movie. Extremely popular, his music is a meme.
* Rodin: The shopkeeper you'll be visiting all the time. The most recurring ally throughout the entire franchise (since Jeanne and Luka start off on non-friendly terms and Enzo does very little) and the difficult bonus boss.
* Alucard: The most recurring hero in the series and star of one of, if not the, most beloved game in the franchise.
* Bomberman, Akira, Rathalos, and Shovel Knight: The main characters (or main mascot in Rathalos' case) of their series.
Compare that to Elec Man, who is of no higher rank than the other robot masters, and he kind of just doesn't impact you as much. On the other hand, Dr. Wily is the main villain of the series and Zero is an extremely popular character who even got his own series. (also fun fact: Zero is the only Mega Man character to have voice acting in Smash)
17:48 This would have made for a sick Down-B for Dark Samus. Even just the one move difference like Roy/Chrom would have been nice.
you mean down smash not down sepcial
Tears of the kingdom beat Majora's Mask. It's the end of a war.
one thing I would love to see is Eevee upgrading from a PokeBall Pokemon to a playable fighter in the next Smash game similar to how Charizard did!
it is practically Pokemon's second mascot by now so it'd make sense for it to be upgraded, possibly having a gimmick involving its Eeveelutions as well
I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure some Poke Ball mons were meant to replace others but not exactly.
Specifically
Latios/Latias replacing Beedrill/Unown but changing the attack style.
Scizor replacing Hitmonlee but adding a dash.
Oshawott/Piplup replacing Marill but adding water effect.
Metagross replacing Venusaur but adding a bury.
Maybe we should move Waluigi from an assist trophy to a playable character and replace Corina as a assist trophy
I think the reason venusaur wasnt there in 64 is because they were in the saffron city stage.
8:24 Freddy Fazbear is a Pokémon confirmed?!??!
He would be a steel ghost type I think 🔥🔥🔥
Koffing was also an enemy in smash run in smash 4 in which he uses the same move
The finale
Honestly the most surprising thing about this video is the fact that Majore's Mask in not Odyssey Central favorite Zelda game anymore.
16:28 Do not get fooled by his appearance. Saki is a male, so refer to him as a guy instead of a girl.
At this rate he's going to look at cut Mii costumes
Babe wake up! Odyssey Central posted a new Smash video!
Some of the Assisst Trophies could be upgraded to bosses/enemies like how some where in Adventure Mode and Smash Run or Rathalos situation surprised they didn't do the same with Rayquaza
3:09 I get why Clefairy was cut since Togepi already uses metronome. I think it is the Melee metronome.
Starting off with the Pokémon “Wow look nothing.”
Nice even though i just came here
Honestly, I respect this more than "First"
Hey Odyssey, can you do a ranking of all 249 bonuses (you know, the things you earn after battles) in Super Smash Bros. Melee? Melee has the most unique set of bonuses from what i know and i would watch that video immediately.
Also, great video man keep it up.
@happymagolor5960 Nah, he did rank all taunts in Ultimate and (especially) every moon in Odyssey after all
@happymagolor5960 Yeah but he could be perfectly capable of doing this one too, maybe on a scale from hardest/least interesting/unfun to get ones to easiest overall/interesting and creative/fun or rewarding to get.
7:10 the other bit of trivia that makes Cyndaquil unique… you can hit him?? For some reason??