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In this video I share my experience with an issue i'm having with Sony XQD G series cards. Im going to remove my links for these cards and wait until I check out the build quality of the Sony TOUGH series. Hope this helps - Will
In this video I share my experience with an issue i'm having with Sony XQD G series cards. Im going to remove my links for these cards and wait until I check out the build quality of the Sony TOUGH series. Hope this helps - Will
I just ordered a sony tough serie cf express Type B 128GB!!
Good to know, as someone that just pre-order a new Z camera I will be buying a memory card for it. Will not be buying a Sony one now.
Delkin is very reliable
hm... I'm using 5x 120GB Sony G XQD for quite some time now (two or three years). Never had a single failure at about half a million pictures. SD cards are way way worse.
Yup, had the same thing happen, luckily it broke while it was outside the camera, I noticed a small price plastic hanging while transferring files on the computer
I remember, that I found your channel from "Why The Nikon Z6 Single XQD Slot is a NON ISSUE" video. This is the reason why I need 2 card slots in all of my cameras. I don't like surprises during paid jobs.
I use SD/CF as the main cards and XQD was always JPG-backup. Finally Z6II come out, so I can upgrade my cameras safely.
And the other issue I have with the G series XQD card is that it is difficult to get out of the Z7, didn't have that issue with my D850. Thanks for the heads up, Sony needs to be sensitive to this and revise their standards of quality.
My D850 had no problem either.
Maybe the Z has tighter tolerances than the D850 or the Sony cards Dont.
I notice the Sony cards are 3.8mm thick whereas all my other XQD/CFExpress cards are 3.7mm...
I have several of these XQD Sony 120Gb Cards... i was very surpriced as i found out that every one of these 120Gb cards were actually only 108Gb ! And yes, they were bought in a official store, original cards... how big are your 120gb cards?
Awesome video am big fan in your video
Had the same thing happen to me
I have had 2 Sony XQD failed and couldn't get the photos off the 2 Sony G series XQD cards. Switched to XQD Tough cards.
Do you format the card in the Camera? (I‘ve heard it decreases the risk of failure)
Did you try any Software to rescue the pictures
@@kakashi14me203 I format rthe card in the camera. I tried the software to get the pictures off the card but didn't work. I had the cards sent back to Sony and they couldn't retrieve the photos off the cards.
@@NikCan66 omg 😱...
The worst case scenario for me when i‘m shooting a wedding with the z6. You made everything i would have done.
For the cost of those f&@#ing things they should be titanium 😠
William, sadly that is the case with most things that are made today. I was a tool & die maker for 12 years, after that I got into the construction trade as a plumber so I’ve been making or building things my entire adult life. I can tell you everything that’s made has a certain amount of pre planned failure to it. That means the product is not designed to last a long time, it’s designed to break or fail after a certain timeframe or a certain amount of usage. As you said in the video, if you want a heavy duty product that’s built to last it’s going to costs a lot more. I have the Sony tough series cards for my Z6 so I haven’t had any problems with those.
Thank you as always Will for another great video that helps everyone here with important decision making. You, Sara and the kids be safe bro!
So true!
@@TheMonochromeMemoirs "intentionally limited service life" is how we call it in my industry... When electronics are involved most people would be astonished at how accurate the probability models of failure are. Almost criminal sometimes...
I have a jar full of dead SD cards, but I haven't had any XQD/CFExpress fails yet.
Your Video made me look at my cards and I hadn't noticed how flimsy the Sony cards were in comparison.
Thanking you for bringing this to my Notice. I wont be buying any more Sony cards.
You probably saved me from another small Sony type Disaster...
Exactly the same thing happened to me a few days ago with the XQD card at my work. Fortunately, the pieces of plastic didn’t got stuck inside the Nikon D5! You are right, it is unacceptable that Sony builds premium products with cheap materials.
I have 6 of the old Lexar XQD cards and I've had that problem with one of them. The other ones seem to be ok but when handling them I can tell that the plastic is cheaper then even my Sony XQD cards. For the CFxpress versions I only have SanDisk cards and those have much better plastic then all my XQD cards. Haven't had a chance to compare them to the other brands of CFxpress cards though but from what I hear the CFxpress cards are more rugged then XQD. Would love to switch all my cards over to CFxpress but at the price of the cards i think ill keep working with what i have now.
Cards are consumables, especially for a pro. I’d say cards should be swapped out every couple of months depending on how many shoots they have on them.
2-3 months for SD cards and 6 -9 months for XQD/CFExpress...
I’ve been using XQD cards since I bought my first D4 back in 2010 or so, I have more than 20 of them, Sony and Lexar, and nearly all of them have some piece that has fallen off them, it’s very frustrating, but luckily none of the pieces has fallen into any of my bodies.
Unfortunate to hear. Have you used the Sony TOUGH brand?
did you throw those cards out or you still use them in a camera even if they miss some small pieces that fallen off?
@@rodinnyfotograf those cards are in the trash
I always bought the best that was on offer, usually from B&H, the last couple of cards I bought are Delkin, and they seem to be standing up somewhat better.
well... you are not the only one who have suffered from this. I saw it happen once last month (my friend's camera). Don't you think it is a hard work to unplug a XQD in Z6? It will be stuck by certain component. While in D850, you just press a button and it slides out.
I had 2 Sony ‘H’ XQD cards where the plastic casing cracked (Nikon D4S). Only handled carefully and never just casually lying out of the camera - so XQD either in the slot or in the card reader. Both cards replaced FOC to ‘G’ but I was told that the heat inside the camera slot was the primary cause of this issue. No evidence of plastic fatigue using the replacement ‘G’ XQDs in the z6 (yet). Fingers crossed 🤞🏻
I had the exact same problem with the same card on my Z6.... now my cards won’t lock in.... so frustrating
This scares me. I have 2 240 gb $379 each 😰
I know this is not related to XQD card, but please help,
Hi! I am a wedding photographer, I am currently using Nikon Z6 (previously used D750 and never had this problem). I am having a difficult time locking focus on the diamond. Using Nikon 105mm f/2.8 macro.
Please help 😊
What about SanDisk Extreme PRO CFexpress. Any experience there?
Everyone says SD cards are crap, and XQD cards are infinitely superior. I have yet to break a SanDisk SD Extreme (or CF) card after 15 years of photography. I've dropped them in water, and they still work. What are people doing to break their memory cards?
As I'm about to move to Nikon Z6 II, it's a good note, and I'll either go with Delkin, SanDisk or ProGrade)...so thanks for the note....
This hasn't happened to me with two Sony XQD G cards but this sucks for those affected.
If this is happening throughout, they should recall all cards sold and offer free replacements with better made cards. Doubt it though.
Ive got a couple of 64gb Sony G XQD cards i bought in 2017 and used with a D500 for sports, and I haven't had any dramas but maybe they have changed the materials used since then. Ive just ordered the Z6 II and I was going to grab a couple of CFExpress, and I was going to get Sandisk just because I've used SD cards without issues for years.
I have the same problem with the XQD 120GB. Even the Touch SD cards have known issues. I returned one and the other one Sony wouldn't accept because that series wasn't suppose to have that issue. Yet half of my files were corrupt.
200euros Memory Card with cheap plastic housing. SD's were just fine, I had only 1-2 failiures in more than 10 years. Shit R&D from Nikon and Sony too. Anyone who's seriously invested in videography will get an external recorder anyways so the XQD make almost no sense.
Half of my Sony cards have done the exact same thing! Drives me nuts! I was thrown away a couple because the entire backside chipped off. It's why I only buy the 32 Gig cards.
Hi,
i have not experienced any XQD failure after 1 and half year but i have another problem with the XQD card. When inserting the card into the SONY Card Reader (XQD) from time to time the card gets stuck in the reader. It is not easy to pull out the card.
Your video confirms my own assumptions about what the card is used to produce the Sony parts.
Thanks for the hint.
Pawel from Berlin / Germany
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Nikon branded XQD cards are also available and I have tried and used both. Although afaik Nikon never released the info on who the actual manufacturer is (Could as well be SONY), I would say that Nikon branded XQDs feel sturdier, it's definitely a different plastic.
However, the CFExpress cards are a much, much better option altogether and the price of those is just about the same these days.
I have a Nikon Z7 and thought it was a problem with the camera. Then I heard it could be pieces my Sony XQD G card breaking off. Sure enough I saw missing pieces and fished them all out and the card stays in now. Using a cord to download pictures.
Just happened to me and that led me to this video.. Nikon z6 and prevented the card from locking into the slot. Unbelievable for such an expensive card. Does anybody have a recommendation for a better quality card I can replace this with? Unfortunately this is the only card I have
I'm helping Sony hear you, just posted it to the public setting on my facebook page. "Adolphe Alexander (AL)" Peace!
A plastic peace has broken off of my Lexar XQD 2933x 128GB.
Thanks for the video William. I have the Z6 as well and wish Nikon put the same card ejection system that they have on the D850. Almost every time I have taken the XQD card out of the Z6 it seems to grab on something, no damage to the cards...yet, but thanks to your video ill keep my eyes open.
The same problem has happened to me, on my Nikon D850 all so my Panasonic Lumix S1r as well, not happy...
Interesting. I have not had any problems, but I looked at my Lexar XQD cards and compared with the Sonys I have. The Lexars are just a little heavier, and so maybe they are built with better or thicker plastic. I'm not stating as fact, I said "maybe." :) I agree that for the price, they should be made to be basically indestructible.
Nikon imo should've gone the SD card route. Yes xqd cards are great but the prices of the cards themselves was a prohibitive factor for a lot. Hope CFExpress cards become cheaper than the current prices.
I haven’t had pieces of plastic break off, but I have had a Lexar ‘Professional’ XQD split down the seam where the two halves of the card are glued together. The case literally fell into two pieces as I took it out of my D850, dropping the circuit board on the table.
I glued it back together, but was surprised how thin the plastic is in the casing.
I’ve just checked my cards and found that another Lexar card is splitting down the sides. Time to get the glue out again!
had no issues yet with my XQD but I did start looking up tough series CFexpress. From what I've been hearing the casing is made of metal... I'm not certain sine I don't have on in hand but sounds good. having said this though, I've yet to have any problems with my XQD and if they go on some crazy sale I'll buy some just as a back up. if my memory serves the cards come with a 5 year warranty so I've heard Sony takes care of you of this. They'll most likely send you out a replacement.
Will - Are you using XQD or CFexpress with the Z6ii? I’m just getting into the system and reading horror stories of Macs not recognizing either of the cards or the readers/cards getting super hot. What reader are you using for your cards? Cheers!
Why I love Nikon... they do one thing and do it well, with focus. Sony is spread out over so many different areas, they couldn't do proper quality control if they tried. Too big not to fail.
Nikon user here, when you say Nikon uses good material for their bodies, do you mean like good rubbers that won't fall apart after a couple of years of careful and normal use? I don't know about you but it did fail on four DSLRs on my side D700 and D750
conspiracy theory...why did he suddenly vanish shortly after making this sony bash video? hahaha
I thought xqd cards don't give you any problems?
yesterday we purchased A7Siii and it was not detecting their own sony tough card...we had to buy sandisk and finally that card worked...reported the issue to Sony India Head.
I just posted on this today... they are junk. I haven't even filled it once. it's been taken out of the camera like 5 times and it's falling apart, Hopefully I can get a warranty replacement. cards are fast but the plastic must be recycled junk.
I was searching youtube for XQD Failure to see if i need to upgrade to the z6 ii due to the dual card slot.
And i say this video, which is similar to your problem
ruclips.net/video/gNbS1xqsIm8/видео.html
I just bought Z6 and then I read about xqd's (I shoud do that the other way around) and they all seems to be so defective... I am Very dissapointed about those cards and especially one card slot in first gen Z series cameras...
“Consumer products that are expensive and use crappy components” - isn’t that the hallmark of Sony?
I'm old enough to remember when the Sony name meant something positive...
@@roybixby6135 Yes, well - Here is the trajectory that Sony Corporate also subscribes to (Nikon, Canon - Please also feel blamed here)... 1. We need to offer awesome products to get into the market, 2. We offer great products (sony: BetaMax, Walkman, Trinitron TVs) with good value and quality, 3. We expand our product line to include not-so-great quality products, 4. The good-quality products make up ever-less of our earnings, as the cheaper products sell better in volume, 5. Good quality products are eliminated, because our shareholders are our new focus, rather than the customers, and they demand profits.... End-of-game!!! End-of-life for the quality-, service- minded company in the example!
Eye opener for sure. thx
I had a Lexar XQD card do this a couple of years ago. They replaced it, but it took almost 6 months before I got it. You are right cheap plastic at in extremely over priced product.
this happened to me now also. i hate sony. i can't see the piece that broke off the very end of my xqd card, but i can tell it is blocking the locking mechanism from full travel. luckily i can just close the card slot door and it keeps it in place at least. this is a dealbreaker for that sony card and anything that relies on it for me.
Pieces of plastic has fallen off the botton end of my Sony SD Express. First I couldn`t get the card it to stay in the Nikon Z6, then it was stuck. Now I`m able to lirk it out with a needle. The locking mechenism in the camera doesn`t work anynmore for my XQD card neither ( which is still undamaged) so who to contact, Nikon or Sony??
Hello my friend , do you think ,the nikon xqd card is a more durable ?
Same thing happened with my nikon D500 and the xqd slot is unuseable now.
What does the camera body of the Z6 have to do with a memory card? Nothing really! Very poor comparison really.
I have not had any problem with my Sony 64gb cards but it is not an accident that Sony products are mechanically inferior to their competitors. They are built to a price point, with maximum margins.
For years I had a business that was the largest pro audio service center in the US and were a warranty station for 58 brands of equipment used in recording studios, stage and musician electronic equipment. I had that warranty status solely because a number of ou larger clients had Sony gear, such as Skywalker Ranch and Pixar. Compared to competing products the Sony equipment was always using the least robust materials and were mechanically most fragile. The worst part was their policy of forcing upgrades by eliminating essential parts stocks when a product went out of production. Panasonic was a direct competitor and they had a different philosophy, parts wee available for decades and products were not replaced so frequently so a user got their money's worth due the much longer service life. Before that business, I owned a major 3 studio complex recording studio and had top-grade tape decks made by Studer and older classic recorders by Ampex and 3M. These all were maintained with new parts for decades. Sony came out with a digital24 track tape deck which I bought in case someone wanted to record digitally. In 1984,, it was $124,000 plus a required controller for another $18,000. It was not used that much but 6 months later, wear parts that are to be replaced on a time schedule about every 6 months, but were no longer available....for a model that was only on the market for 1 year! That is when I discovered the Sony corporate policy of forcing upgrades by dropping essential maintenance parts. Digging into it, I found that ALL 500,000 products that Sony makes are subject to becoming boat anchors due to the inability to service older items, in my case 6 months old because that model was replaced by one that cost $154,000. When I complained their answer was that I needed an upgrade.It was not making me very happy losing, being ripped off by Sony for what was a lot of money in84. Now that would be $500,000
When Sony got into digital cameras friends bought them because of their long list of features and they were beginners so they assumed the features were important even though they were built like crap with the flimsiest materials in the industry. One of them stuck with it and used his camera for a few years but in that time he had to upgrade to new models 3 times because of problems and no repairs were possible so he had to buy the newest version. By contrast, all my Nikons were fully supported but never needed it because they were built so much better. So I advise people to think of the true value of their investment and not get stuck in the constant required update cycle.
Although I have not had any problem with my XQD cards I am also very careful with them BECAUSE they are Sony branded. All newer cads are SanDisk CFExpress. I never remove the cards, I format them in camera and transfer via Wt-7 high-speed wireless wi-fi. For important shoots that transfer occurs as the images are taken so a copy of the RAW file is on my laptop and FTP transferred to my home server as frames are taken. Nikon has the best high speed RF transfer capabilities with that adaptor.
Had the same problems two years ago using Lexar XQD
Well Nikon Z bodys arent perfect either since rubber is shitty. Rubber gets scoffed easily and my port cover seals got so deformed over time that they dont do function anymore.
I had the same card in the D850 with no problems. Thing is, that the Zs use a "push and lock push and release" system. The D850 has an eject button.
So with the Zs you have finger presure on the part, where the plastic seems to be very thin and of bad quality.
I bought a CF Express card from Wise and at first I didn't get it to hold in the Z6 at all. Them I pressed very hard and it worked. Now to avoid more breaking I push with two fingers at the side of the card. Not very desireable but I hope that avoids further problems.
So it is a kind of design flaw of Nikon as well - but it seems to be mainly a Sony problem and they should replace those crappy cases. But they don't...
Sony does this same shit with their cameras. This is why I won’t buy Sony cameras. Imagine that crap happening to your camera
I've had similar issues with sandisk sd cards, random bits of plastic just falling off.
Yep! had a few fall apart - lucky none have been stuck in the camera! mine have been at then end were the door is - the cards still work - but agree they shouldn't be doing this!
Lexar is now worthless. They used to be good but never buy Lexar cards.
yeah ...it's a big deal...hasn't happened to me yet... perhaps Sony thinks everyone leaves them in and writes to storage via the camera
I tried that and at 63, I ain't got that kind of time man! I got a fast reader and pull it out every time. Couldn't tell you why it works like that...but even if you left it in....if your shooting weddings....you're gonna fill it up and will need to pull it out anyway.
Not Good
Either u use v60 or v90 for 420. Or u use ninja V for high quality
These cards get very hot so it must be poor heat resistance on the plastic cards.
Sounds heat related. In use warning and then off cooling and it becomes brittle. Just a thought
That has happened to me as well. Not stuck inside but the edges have broken off the xqd card
Been there with the same shitty problem and it sucks on a product that has this pricing
Delkin makes batter cards with better warranty service
Is it possible that the camera gets hot and causes the plastic to become brittle?
Thanks for that. We learn early on that good engineering begins with selection of materials. Shame on Sony.
Their XQD cards have the same shitty build quality as their cameras.
Even Lexar cards are made better than Sony's.
The real scary problem with single slot isn't the card failure, it's the slot failure that may occur because of misbehavior or mechanical damage of a card.
My main issue with XQD is the only company who uses it is Nikon.
no dual card slot, but the plastic on the card is bad?
Same here... that really sucks!
Was thinking of getting a Z6 but now maybe not .... Memory card hassle 😣
Get CF Express cards
Have some on the way 🤝
That's what I'm about to order too. Same price as the QXD too. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1551686-REG/sandisk_sdcfe_064g_ancnn_64gb_extreme_pro_cfexpress.html
I have seen another post from someone commenting on the same issue..I just checked & my Sony 120 card is a G model..Yikes! I will have to watch in future..Thanks for the heads up..Ken in Arizona 🌵
Totally 100 percent Agree!!!
Yeah it’s a big deal! Come on Sony
QUESTION: does your card come out easy n smooth? Gas it broken in. In 10 months mine have been out 20 times and feel tight to pull out and kinda catch/rub pulling out. I am not complaining. Just feels like close tolerances
Mine are smooth in my D500 and Z6. You should compare with another body or card.
Hi Will, currently have about 6 cards on rotation. Used them with my D4, D850 and Z6 and Z7. 4 of them are G series Sony, and I have 2 x SanDisk CFXpress, which I only use in the Z6 and Z7.
The 2x 128GB G series are from 2017 used in the D850 from launch and they are all going strong.
And the CFExpress SanDisk are about 9-10 months and are going fine. I made a vid on my channel sharing that I had gone 600 days in the Z6 and Z7, without any XQD / image loss incident. We are probably at 700 days now. And if I include the D850, it would be over 1000 days without any incident or image loss.
Did you buy those cards at the same time? It could be a bad batch .... good luck, I think a refund would be more than reasonable as they are less than 2 years old. Cheers Matt
Hey Matt, man that’s great to hear! I’ve been cycling this stack of cards since we first got the Zs so not likely they’re from the same batch. I’m thinking this may be a function of the heat because I really am careful with how I handle the cards. Such a bummer. I just bought a stack of the TOUGH cf express cards so hopefully this fixes the problem. But yeah, not impressed with that plastic housing!
@@TheMonochromeMemoirs For sure heat, and you are doing a ton of shooting, are you doing much video? As I am shooting 4K 23.98 FPS for youtube and after 30 mins they are hot, and that is when it seems to get hottest. Or are you talking more environmental heat? Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography rarely doing video, just my RUclips videos and those are usually less than 20min lectures with no b roll. I have noticed the cards get hot when in the card reader transferring files to the computer. We usually have 3-4 shoots every week so they do get used a lot!
@@TheMonochromeMemoirs Yep you are working them hard. Could be wear and tear ... Good luck with the tough cards. :)
z6 rubber sucks, like always
I buy Delkun...no problems
Thanks for the information. As an amateur, I don’t use my Z 6 the way a pro does, so I appreciate knowing about this problem with the expensive Sony cards.
SanDisk failed me 2 times.
Thanks for the heads up, never really noticed this. I have 4 Sony XQD G cards. After watching your video I went to inspect them. Three out of the four has cracks in the housing, of those 3 on has a piece missing. All of the cracks on the pin side of the card. I wish that I could upload pictures.
Just got off the phone with Sony. They are going to replace the 3 cards that I have with cracks in them. So that's good to know. They are easy to deal with this time also, perhaps they already knew that the housings are defective.
How hard are you punching in these cards for them to start breaking apart, and how many cards are you going through. I shot a wedding on a delkin 120, and 90 gigs 3k plus raw photos shot plus with the 3kplus jpg copies too
they make these things all in the same factory, they have to
Not hate, just trying for a little balance here.
Kind of hard to reconcile this video with your video of Aug 15th 2019 where you strongly state that one card slot is no big deal. Maybe this helps explain why so many wedding and other photographers rejected the Z6 for their work because of the single card slot issue. Maybe this is the reason Nikon has rethought their position regarding single card slots in their latest mirrorless camera releases. It is known that this kind of thing happens for a variety of reasons. Both of your videos cannot be correct. They are in direct conflict.
Without testing, you have no evidence whether card deficiencies, or a problem with the actual card slot in the camera is the problem.
@@Joamonica Of course not, that is not the point. It does provide redundancy to help prevent the loss of images. Wedding photographers must not let that happen. Too much liability if it does,and is an unreasonable risk to put your clients in on their once in a lifetime event. I would love to be the Lawyer seeking compensation from a photographer who used a camera without redundant storage. I would be presenting all the postings of other professionals who rejected the cameras for that reason, all the other cameras available that do offer redundancy, and the statements from Nikon executives that said these were not "professional level cameras".
Just saying.....
buy cfast cards,.
Same with a Sony cameras!?
Mine broke too all 3 cards
Happened to me on my D5, luckily I got it sorted quickly, and yup, shit material
Great info thanks.
dude, where have you been?