@@jackson3475 no, she’s not worse than xinyan defensively, that would be absurd with how weak xinyan shield is. However, “in exchange”, xinyan gets more damage, both pyro and physical.
@@-ruubi-7270 Doctor Hoyo decided to cut Dehya's dying corpse in two via for split scaling without fixing any of her core problems and putting a that 1%-3% bandaid over the knife and saw wounds they inflicted on her before calling it a job well done. Hoyo, pls... my wife is DYING
@@harryvpn1462 not necessary. The 4th slot isn’t going to have a prominent role. Sure anemo is the best because anemo, but electro or another hydro just because you can is fine enough. You can count monogeo, but the problem occurs only because all the options are mid.
@@michi1944 Depends on what characters are released. If NIlou was a claymore user Bell would be her 2nd best weapon. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a unit from Fontaine that works well with Bell.
I figured it out, you switch to Deyha to tank big hits. For example: in the Raiden weekly boss fight you don't have to break the orb, just let Deyha take it for the team 😎
When you think about it, mono pyro actually got nerfed. You would obviously use Benny in the comp and they nerfed her attack numbers to implement HP scaling into her kit, so it's less damage in the end.
But she’s more of a burgeon unit.. tho. Her procing AOE Pyro dmg every 2.5 seconds with E with no ICD while applying 1.5-2 units of Pyro means she not only procs burgeon but she also vaporizes every tick. Her E can be paused with her Q to align with it’s 8 second downtime while Dehya procs burgeon and vapes simultaneously Onfield. Additionally, she’s most likely getting her own artifact set in 3.6 since it’s time for a new domain. The only way to address her low scalings is having a 4 piece set that buffs her dmg % based on the dmg absorbed for the team. That alone would make her kit better a whole and it’s addressing the issues people have with her (even tho I feel most are exaggerated and putting her in teams she’s not designed for considering she was never meant to compete with Hutao in traditional vape comps). She’s the only pyro from Sumeru, hoyo obviously intends to make her a burgeon/burning carry. That’s what her kit wants to be. I have no doubt her artifact set will address the team dmg absorption part of her kit.
@@Blizandrio 2 burgeons every 2.5 seconds is depressing. That gives her a rate of 4 burgeons every 5 seconds. For reference, Thoma gets 10 burgeons every 5 seconds
@@CC-kp7ge but Dehya applies Pyro every 2.5 seconds. Thoma doesn’t, he procs every second but he applies the element every 3 or so seconds. And it’s tied to his burst while Dehya’s is more reliable since it’s an E. And in her burst she punches every .4 secs so she procs 2x faster Pyro than Thoma. Additionally, I think people are misunderstanding her burst and how it stops her E. If you do her rotation correctly you have consistent Pyro application from her for 18-20 full seconds. Her burst lasting 4 second doesn’t mean she’s 4 seconds on field, she’s actually 8 cus you would then refresh her E at the end of her burst. Her application is actually ver nice. And the fact that her fast application is reserved at the back of her rotation means she’ll most likely be procing burgeon, and burning simultaneously. She applies Pyro for a full 20 second rotation. And that’s very valuable.
@@adamant2239 there won't be any dehya mains, she can't synergize with ANYONE, her scalings are terrible, her kit is useless and makes absolutely no sense, there is no possible way to use her properly because she's all over the place and no where at the same time
I... My copium is that she's like Cyno. Since she has HP ascension and crit weapon, you can focus on full EM with crit substats so she could burgeon-vape at the same time with Yelan-XQ-Nahida....
I've built plenty of characters considered bad or mid by the community and though I stand by pull who you want I also think Hoyo should do better with their kit designs. Like imagine if Xinyan's shield scaled with Attack.
"You can clear abyss with only 4* characters. You don't have to pull specifically for a character because they're strong, you can pull for a character because you like them, like that's fine. You're not an idiot for enjoying different things" THANK YOU
I did some rough calcs and i kid you not, according to the calculations he did on stream, c6 Dehya deals 20% more dps than a c0 black tassel Hu Tao against a slime🤡🤡🤡 Still getting her tho, maybe they’ll pull a Ganyu on her (HIGH copium)
You can buy a car that costs 20k dollars what has 600hp, OR you can buy a car for the same price, but also get its luxury spare part for an additional 120k, and get it to run at 720 hp!!! Is it more comfortable? Fuck no, its the same couch. What a steal!
i knew she was bad when you said she is worse than Xinyan but when you said her defensive options are worse than Thoma's i realised how bad she truly is. now i can play melt dehya with aloy
@@yujin-1907 I use that team, but with Tohma instead, works really well, you just need good ER stats on him and a fav lance. Sadly, I don't think she'll be better than him
Btw the idea that "how good X character is only matters if you are a tryhard meta player, you can clear abyss with Physical Tighnari if you want, go and have fun" is really misleaded to say the least. I get why content creators have to put out disclaimers like these but it promotes the idea that if someone likes X character his power / gameplay is completely irrelevant AKA every character is perfect since everything is evaluated on taste alone. I knew very well that Cyno and Wanderer are ok at best and i decided to go for them anyways since i already have most of the "good units", but i wont pull for Dehya unless her kit is heavily buffed since it wont be fun running around with a unit that constantly reminds you of how bad it is.Some people can definitely enjoy bad units but most people wont, and if the gap between the best unit and X unit you want gets too big it gets really frustrating.
It also sets a precedent for mihoyo that allows them to drop the power bar lower and lower while charging the same price for a unit because people will still pull for X unit because they like them... You can definitely like a unit and pull for who you want but that shouldn't be an excuse to accept buying basically a skin with a barely functional kit when compared to the other available alternatives when making a team...
Well most units arent as bad as dehya so until now it generally held true that you can pull for characters with worse than average kits and still enjoy them because they were not that much worse. I agree pulling a character that feels bad to play is gonna suck regardless of how much you like them.
@Luminous Realistically only a small minority of players exclusively pulls the best Stier units and only them and another small minority only pulls based on aestethic/personality/waifu alone. Most players want a cool looking character that is fun to play and feels powerful, one of those 3 can be lacking but when either one of those is terrible or when 2+ are lacking the character fails IMO The problem rn is that if Dehya is a success it sets a dangerous precedent
Wanderer is easily top-tier DPS _IF_ you have C6 Faruzan. At C0 he also beats Xiao _IF_ you have at least C2 Faruzan... her C2 is the tipping point that makes C0 Wanderer beat C0 Xiao. If you only have C0 or C1 Faruzan, Xiao is better though.
This is why I pulled for constellations on Raiden, Kazuha and Nahida. So I can always guarantee an easy abyss 36* and at the same time pulling for waifu and not caring how good they are anymore.
I respect that, but I feel frustrating how the make her so shit because she can't proc yelan or XQ on field when bursting, her E is 20s cd so don't synergise well with the shorter rotations of other characters burst and skills, her application of pyro is so bad she can't be a burgeon character. Hoyo go out their way to create a character that not only have bad dmg but doesn't work well with other supports that could carry her dps...
What do you mean.. guarantee an easy 36 abyss ? these character you mentioned, at C0, are already strong enough to guarantee you a 36 stars. Look, I respect your decision but the way I see it, it’s kinda encourage Hoyoverse to continue their exploit via scummy tactic.
@@nanathedelta8561 What do i mean? Well, it's clearing the abyss with 30s~a minute left on the clock without any trouble. I have an alt with c0s and while i still 36* there every time, there's some stages where it's a struggle or need to reset to change teams, stuff like that. Like I said, it's to guarantee an EASY 36*.
@@nanathedelta8561 take this abyss for example, 12-2 was a struggle for my c0 alt, had to reset a couple of times before i figured out a team and bought shielders to help. On my constellation account it was a cakewalk, didn't even realize 12-2-1 hit that hard the first time because they died too quickly.
Even tho this might not be an official Zajef clips account (tho I wish he'd see this comment) I kinda want him to release a Xenon pre-release or Ask Zajef Xenon edition on exactly April 1st because of April Fools lol
Dehya's kit looking pretty sus after the latest world quest where the racist jinni lamp was basically proven correct and you brutally slaughter every single member of a dark skinned tribe.
I agree with what you said. Pull for the character who you like. It’s fine to do that. I like that you didn’t sh- on those who pull for design. And I also agree if you’re pulling because you think Dehya is strong, then you’ll be disappointed. I will pull her for design and some of her kit does seem interesting, but if I lose 50/50 then I won’t spend to get her. I’ll go for other characters that are upcoming.
I liked when someone in chat said "Like a burgeon" when Zajef talked about Dehya burgeon teams. *****d for the very first time! Yeah, absolutely true if you pull for her.
Her role is literally to look pretty, zhongli is the best defensive character and dehya's half assed damage mitigation is a joke compared to not only zhongli but most other shields
Uhm.. not really, her mitigation is pretty solid. It’s just that she doesn’t provide anything else. If we look at Zhongli, sure, he doesn’t do damage but at least you get universal RES shred.
@@nanathedelta8561 For her, it's good but not enough. A C5 Xingqiu and a C0 Dehya have more or less the same DMG reduction, but for Dehya that's like very important part of her kit while for Xingqiu is actually a Extra, since what truly matter is his Burst (But of course, his E makes him even better). But there's more thing, Xingqiu gives more Resistance to Interrupting than her, while his kit doesn't even focus on that while her does. That with also a extremely good hydro application, a little of healing for the Team (Dehya can only heal herself) and also a lot of personal DMG. So yeah, it's actually a good thing having this DMG reduction but it's not exactly enough since she doesn't provide much more than that. And if we are taking about characters for just tanking, so Zhongli, Kokomi, Jean and many others are actually better than Dehya, since they also have a better elemental application (Expect for Zhongli, but his shield is better than any DMG reduction and decrease resistance). Well, they at least give her HP% scaling in the DMG, but was to little (But it's already a thing). Now is just hope for a future artifact set or maybe a new mechanic. But like u said in your first comment (I even forgot about him, i did read again), it's actually that. Pretty solid DMG RES but not enough, but now that i think on that, Xingqiu is actually better since with Dehya this DMG RES of the on field character actually goes for her, kinda funny
We all wanted Dehya to be a main dps or sub dps, and even a driver. Although the low dmg scalings clearly seems they want us to focus on her defensive utility more. Let me paint a picture, imagine a burgeon dps comes out. Procs high amounts of burgeon dmg, only works with pyro, hydro, and dendro for a Nilou type passive to work. Bennett healing also may not be enough especially if the character is similar to Hutao who likes to be low hp or has a rapidly depleting hp bar similar to Xiao on top of the burgeon self dmg. That could be where she has value. Using Thoma might steal burgeon procs from the dps so he may not be a good pick for said burgeon dps. In some cases slower pyro app may be better. Let's not forget Burgeon and Burning r clearly outperformed by Hydrobloom and Quicken comps. Seems like an intentional set up for future characters to give the reactions some value. Everyone hated on Thoma expecting him to be pyro xingqui remember. Healers were also regarded as useless for the majority of 1.0 to early half of 2.0. Till healers got the Calm set and an enemy specifically designed to counter shields and incentivise healing. Xiao also didn't have a dedicated artifact set for a year. U can't Calc the future if the information available is incomplete. I do think Dehya is a skip now, and see if her value increases on a rerun or 2nd rerun. Hoyoverse is making this a trend now. Imagine if Mika came out before we ever got Eula. Mika would be such an underwhelming and hated character. I could be wrong about her and she could forever be a useless character. Although imagine if we r all wrong though about her current value months ahead. We would all look like clowns. TLDR: Dehya is probably a Solution to a Problem that we don't have "yet".
Assuming that you're right about that possible "future" burgeon character, Dehya will never be enough to survive especilly in burgeon team who do self damage. Have you hear Zajeff ? She is worse than Thoma as a defensive utility. You will still need a shilder or a healer anyway. Even the concept of a character who want to be low HP does not go in her favor. Dehya only mitigate a part of the damage you take, not all and she only heal herself meaning you will die sooner or later. Even if you onfield her, her self heal is again not enough to keep up and her damage is not worth the slot in your party. If Bennet is not enough, it's not Dehya who will be able to compete. Her defensive utility does not make sense to begin with, there is no case at all where i can see her perform better than shielder or a healer instead, worse you sill need them if you value survavability. She may be have a purpose we don't see yet but you are cooping if you think that her defensif utility would make up for that.
@everyone don't worry, they're only keeping Dehya looking weak because they don't want to lose income on the Hu Tao | Yelan banner. They're planning on making her even stronger than Hu Tao and even better off field than Yelan. True. The buffs will come out after they cash out on the current banner. Just wait.
The buffs are a step in the right direction, at least she won't have split scaling now because FOR SOME REASON HoYo wanted to pull that shit again. They aren't enough to make her good of course; she's still terrible. I'm on copium that they've laid the groundwork to finally start making her better.
That'd be great, but as far as we know, that's it for the beta, since this was the last Monday of beta and that's when updates release. Could she get shadow buffed? I guess? I think Kokomi got the ICD on her Jellyfish removed, but other than that, I'm not aware of any changes to characters on/after release. Tbh, with her current state they could legitimately put her C1-C5 on her base kit and she'd be balanced, so...yeah. Still needs a lot of work, which seems unlikely to happen at this stage.
@wes2287 There are still a couple weeks left for changes to be made; added HP scaling to her Talents is just the most recent update. That said, things are looking grim for Dehya if this is the level of buff we should expect.
Well, something interesting I found. If you apply the quicken aura, you can cause burning and still get aggravate. Applying too much Pyro ruins the reaction though. This might be the best team for Dehya
People were begging for HP scaling and now she's closer to split scaling instead of dual scaling like Nahida/Alhaitham since 1) she doesn't work with Yelan/Xingqiu for hydro resonance and 2) Bennett can't buff her as much anymore. HP ascension, split between HP/atk, and her BiS is a crit rate claymore like wtf is hoyo thinking with this kit lol
Ive been a Eula main since her first banner release but im like OKCode whose favorite character is Xinyan. Yeah, we know they are not the best but we don't care and understand when others say they are not worth a pull 🤣
Yeah, tho Xinyan is a 4 star... Dehya is a 5 star that is looking like one of the worst units in the game, with no place in any teams at all since there are better counter parts. i mean she can be slightly better than c0 Hu Tao if you spend that 1k buck to get her to c6. Genshin team is just inferior to the other Hoyo teams.
I was going to make sure I got her but with all the nerfs and weird kit I made sure to secure c1 yelan and its so nice. Hopefully Ill win 50/50 on Dehya
OKOKOK I GOT IT I GOT IT DEHYAS PASSIVE IS BROKEN! Its a 10% movement speed buff during daytime on a claymore character so you can guarantee dragonstrike spam without having to rely on any other characters! BUSTED OP! Y'all can meme all day but I KNOW THE TRUTH AHAHAHAHA! !dehya44
i think she's alright with burgeon, she can spread the damage to her team so I don't know if thats viable but that wouldn't be her kit though which is sajj
That is the thing with her... she dosen't have teams where other don't do what her job would be much better then her and that is what is sad about it. I've been waiting for her since her first reveal in the sumeru previews i'd never expect a 5 STAR being soo bad... I wouldn't care if she was a 4* but c'mon.
@@TheYeahzus For sure, and a definitely wouldn't recommend pulling for relatively new accounts. But after playing for a long time, every pull now is "for fun" more or less, and I like her character and animations,. If she has some half decent burning/burgeon teams I'd still like to try her out, even if she's not the strongest.
@@defenestratedone Yeah, I mean I'm like 3 pulls away from her with a lot saved up anyway so if anything I'll just get her collection and hope for the best, maybe they'll really give us an artifact set that will help her. As for burgeon, she is just to slow to proc the seeds and nothing in her kit has anything to do with EM, but I guess we can force it lol and get those two burgeons every 2.5 seconds while Thoma gets 10 every 5 seconds lol xD
@@TheYeahzus these dehya wanters just sound so desperate bro 💀, now i feel bad for you, don't wast your primos on garbage, just accept dehya is shit and move on
The only copium I have for her currently is that partial hp scaling in base kit at least makes the possible synergy with Fontaine characters in the future more likely Also there's the possibility of a dedicated artifact set but it would need to be insane to make her at least a decent 5* but it would also have to be specific enough to not buff other characters too much
The only good thing about lantern rite was the Guizhong lore. Everything else was significantly worse than last year's especially Hu Tao's rap. For anyone who thinks it sounds better in CN, even CN players think her rapping was shit lmao
i decided to skip her after her last update.. and I think it was the last beta for update.. usually 4/5x update.. so I pulled alhaitam yesterday lmao.. also I'm coping on baizhu leak to be a dednro buffer and good with haitham..
Prayge Our father who art in heaven, hear me out man plz. I beg of you. Theres this video game, mr god sir. Its called genshin impact. a lot of the times it really sucks but sometimes its really cool. and in this video game there is this character that will be release soon that i think is pretty well. pretty nifty. quite fun, very cool. like triple thumbs up. and i, it would be really nice...if she was not the anti christ... okay. thats all im saying okay. dont make her the anti-christ plz.
Mihoyo did worse than not even adding dehya to the game The made you despise the character on the long term because of losing 50/50s Its not that shes basically not even in the game because shes too weak, shes actually going to force her way into your game despite you wanting absolutely anyone but her
He likes Dehya as a character and her kit is quite interesting for him. He didn't say Alhaitham is bad or anything, he's not really interested with his kit + Nahida can cover his role. As a Alhaitham enjoyer myself, he isn't really a must pull unit. He pulled Cyno even knowing that he isn't really that great just because Cyno's a perfect Thundering Fury dps. Hell, he's also a Xinyan main
@@cocoroach_ok True. I wasn't criticizing him dont worry. I agree Alhaitham is not necessary addition to your account. But I have seen some people in the Alhaitham main subreddit that think otherwise. Like I saw a comment under his video post so bullshit like "He thinks hutao a nessary pull but not haitham" what? When has he ever said that?
"worse than xinyan offensively, worse than thoma defensively"
i cant decide whether to laugh or cry lmao
Laugh and then start crying
Given her scalings, I could see an argument for worse than thoma offensively as well, given she takes up so much field time.
She's probably also worse than Xynian defensively and worse than Thoma offensively too (thanks to Thoma Burgeon being a thing) which is funnier.
@@jackson3475 no, she’s not worse than xinyan defensively, that would be absurd with how weak xinyan shield is. However, “in exchange”, xinyan gets more damage, both pyro and physical.
@@-ruubi-7270 Doctor Hoyo decided to cut Dehya's dying corpse in two via for split scaling without fixing any of her core problems and putting a that 1%-3% bandaid over the knife and saw wounds they inflicted on her before calling it a job well done.
Hoyo, pls... my wife is DYING
You know those teams where you run three only characters and the fourth one can literally be dead? I believe that's where Dehya could be
Hyperbloom? Dehya can just stay for moral support.
Hyperbloom and National
@@Eclin national really likes the vv shereder, its not like monogeo with a 4th slot
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 SO TRUEWE
I wish she had some kind of a buff because I believe she would be really fun in Itto teams of she could buff him
@@harryvpn1462 not necessary. The 4th slot isn’t going to have a prominent role. Sure anemo is the best because anemo, but electro or another hydro just because you can is fine enough. You can count monogeo, but the problem occurs only because all the options are mid.
Dehya mains have become Signora mains after seeing her kit and scaling.
Rip Dehya, she died after the sumeru archon quest
Most of them siting on high quality copium,i wish i had that..
Maybe it was good th8ng she died... looking at our Tall female pyro lady record not looking good
@@michaelk1982 She was a really cool npc, so it's unfortunate that Hoyo didn't decide to make her a character.
DOAya
Even with her buffed HP scaling, Dehya can't be saved by The Bell.
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The bell is bad, it wont happen
**Sitcom intro plays**
Bell is not good and will never be.
Recurve bow has 42.8% hp substat but noone uses it on Yelan.
Er/crit/em weapons are just better
@@michi1944 Depends on what characters are released. If NIlou was a claymore user Bell would be her 2nd best weapon. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a unit from Fontaine that works well with Bell.
My man’s really dedicated himself on that C6 Xenon grind when he comes out in 5.2
Who’s Xenon?
@@sittingcrowd912 you don't know xenon the xenophobic?!?!?1?!!1!?
@@thatweirdodaniel nope
@@sittingcrowd912 1:00
@@IgorGrazina oh. I still don’t get it.
The buff she got was that they didn't nerf her again.
I figured it out, you switch to Deyha to tank big hits. For example: in the Raiden weekly boss fight you don't have to break the orb, just let Deyha take it for the team 😎
C6 Kuki: **yawn**
C6 Barbara: **yawn**
Even Mona is better then her since you're able to dodge it with her sprint
And she also buffs while alive
But dehya...
Or you use Zhongli and you don't need to pay attention or waste time switching lol
@@jenr4m3fu83ensjr3 wait, Mona can just nope under that? 🤣
When you think about it, mono pyro actually got nerfed. You would obviously use Benny in the comp and they nerfed her attack numbers to implement HP scaling into her kit, so it's less damage in the end.
But she’s more of a burgeon unit.. tho. Her procing AOE Pyro dmg every 2.5 seconds with E with no ICD while applying 1.5-2 units of Pyro means she not only procs burgeon but she also vaporizes every tick. Her E can be paused with her Q to align with it’s 8 second downtime while Dehya procs burgeon and vapes simultaneously Onfield. Additionally, she’s most likely getting her own artifact set in 3.6 since it’s time for a new domain. The only way to address her low scalings is having a 4 piece set that buffs her dmg % based on the dmg absorbed for the team. That alone would make her kit better a whole and it’s addressing the issues people have with her (even tho I feel most are exaggerated and putting her in teams she’s not designed for considering she was never meant to compete with Hutao in traditional vape comps). She’s the only pyro from Sumeru, hoyo obviously intends to make her a burgeon/burning carry. That’s what her kit wants to be. I have no doubt her artifact set will address the team dmg absorption part of her kit.
@@Blizandrio 2 burgeons every 2.5 seconds is depressing. That gives her a rate of 4 burgeons every 5 seconds. For reference, Thoma gets 10 burgeons every 5 seconds
@@CC-kp7ge but Dehya applies Pyro every 2.5 seconds. Thoma doesn’t, he procs every second but he applies the element every 3 or so seconds. And it’s tied to his burst while Dehya’s is more reliable since it’s an E. And in her burst she punches every .4 secs so she procs 2x faster Pyro than Thoma. Additionally, I think people are misunderstanding her burst and how it stops her E. If you do her rotation correctly you have consistent Pyro application from her for 18-20 full seconds. Her burst lasting 4 second doesn’t mean she’s 4 seconds on field, she’s actually 8 cus you would then refresh her E at the end of her burst. Her application is actually ver nice. And the fact that her fast application is reserved at the back of her rotation means she’ll most likely be procing burgeon, and burning simultaneously. She applies Pyro for a full 20 second rotation. And that’s very valuable.
@@Blizandrio I mean, if you're going to use Dehya as a main dps that is vaporizing and getting burgeons, Diluc is completely superior
@@Blizandrio I want whatever the fuck your huffing
How can people legitimately say Dehya is for burgeon when her signature weapon has crit rate and ATK
lmao you're underestimating the amount of coping Dehya mains are doing
@@adamant2239 💀
@@adamant2239 there won't be any dehya mains, she can't synergize with ANYONE, her scalings are terrible, her kit is useless and makes absolutely no sense, there is no possible way to use her properly because she's all over the place and no where at the same time
@@kytten4506 there are people who play Aloy too, so I believe there's some that's willing to take the pain
I... My copium is that she's like Cyno. Since she has HP ascension and crit weapon, you can focus on full EM with crit substats so she could burgeon-vape at the same time with Yelan-XQ-Nahida....
Dehya is a better carry than Thoma and a better defensive unit than Xinyan then. She is a must then, got it 😉👍
Thoma burgeon 👍
BASED
Since Thoma is the best carry in the game, Dehya being better than him means she’s a broken character👍👍
@@kauanpereira2777 it was sarcasm 👍
@@diogoschneider2479 I know👍
Reasons to have Dehya on your team:
1. Pyro resonance
2. Body shield
3. Emotional Support
That's it Dehya mains have fun pulling her
Xenon mains, unite!
all hail Xenon!!!
Who the hell is xenon
@@muhamwed watch the video on this channel titled “unplayable mika”
@@muhamwed future character, most broken, meta breaker even at c0 lvl 0 lvl 1 talents
@@muhamweda male electro catalyst leaked
I've built plenty of characters considered bad or mid by the community and though I stand by pull who you want I also think Hoyo should do better with their kit designs. Like imagine if Xinyan's shield scaled with Attack.
This ^
Yeah suddenly thats an interesting character to play.
Imagine if she buffs not Physical, but ATK, ATK% shield and a new C6. Could be a good character, Pyro Shield with ATK% buff
Where my non-dehya wanters at
I love deyha slander and now we making a new character
Nah, fk that I'm loyal to Xenon
her dps is comparable to amber 🔥
@@nichohcin2112 except for the fact that putting Dehya in Amber's best team is still a dps loss.
Still pulling tbh
"You can clear abyss with only 4* characters. You don't have to pull specifically for a character because they're strong, you can pull for a character because you like them, like that's fine. You're not an idiot for enjoying different things"
THANK YOU
there's not enough Xenon fans. WHERE ARE THE XENOPHOBICS ???!!!
In Liyue
@@VeneratedSun in hoyoverse offices☠️
@@gonzalodiez6336 DAMN beat me to it
I'm a proud xenophobe 😎
I did some rough calcs and i kid you not, according to the calculations he did on stream, c6 Dehya deals 20% more dps than a c0 black tassel Hu Tao against a slime🤡🤡🤡 Still getting her tho, maybe they’ll pull a Ganyu on her (HIGH copium)
Such a specific comparison
That's so op, oh my god.
She's a must pull now
Holy freck c6 Dehya is 20% more strong than c0 hutao MUST PULL GUYS
You can buy a car that costs 20k dollars what has 600hp, OR you can buy a car for the same price, but also get its luxury spare part for an additional 120k, and get it to run at 720 hp!!! Is it more comfortable? Fuck no, its the same couch. What a steal!
i knew she was bad when you said she is worse than Xinyan but when you said her defensive options are worse than Thoma's i realised how bad she truly is. now i can play melt dehya with aloy
She's bad for melt too ☠️
I need more zajef + druttut in my life, nothing is funnier
True. I first encountered Druttut on LS's League Worlds costreams and fukin loved the guy. I was so fukin surprised that he plays Genshin too lmao.
3:39 holy based, this is why zajef keeps farming Ws unlike others in the TC community xD #FreeDehya
Guys, at least Dehya can be good in Hyperbloom.
Nahida, Raiden, Xingqiu and... Dehya
Her icon will be pretty to look at.
Imagine if it actually works. Hyperbloom + burgeon. Lol
@@yujin-1907 I use that team, but with Tohma instead, works really well, you just need good ER stats on him and a fav lance.
Sadly, I don't think she'll be better than him
@@serikazero128 it's easier to de-sync Dehya's pulses with Raiden than it is to de-sync Thoma's pulses with Raiden
They could've just add hp scaling and left the atk scaling alone... But they nerf anyway
Btw the idea that "how good X character is only matters if you are a tryhard meta player, you can clear abyss with Physical Tighnari if you want, go and have fun" is really misleaded to say the least.
I get why content creators have to put out disclaimers like these but it promotes the idea that if someone likes X character his power / gameplay is completely irrelevant AKA every character is perfect since everything is evaluated on taste alone.
I knew very well that Cyno and Wanderer are ok at best and i decided to go for them anyways since i already have most of the "good units", but i wont pull for Dehya unless her kit is heavily buffed since it wont be fun running around with a unit that constantly reminds you of how bad it is.Some people can definitely enjoy bad units but most people wont, and if the gap between the best unit and X unit you want gets too big it gets really frustrating.
It also sets a precedent for mihoyo that allows them to drop the power bar lower and lower while charging the same price for a unit because people will still pull for X unit because they like them... You can definitely like a unit and pull for who you want but that shouldn't be an excuse to accept buying basically a skin with a barely functional kit when compared to the other available alternatives when making a team...
Well most units arent as bad as dehya so until now it generally held true that you can pull for characters with worse than average kits and still enjoy them because they were not that much worse.
I agree pulling a character that feels bad to play is gonna suck regardless of how much you like them.
@Luminous Realistically only a small minority of players exclusively pulls the best Stier units and only them and another small minority only pulls based on aestethic/personality/waifu alone.
Most players want a cool looking character that is fun to play and feels powerful, one of those 3 can be lacking but when either one of those is terrible or when 2+ are lacking the character fails IMO
The problem rn is that if Dehya is a success it sets a dangerous precedent
Wanderer is easily top-tier DPS _IF_ you have C6 Faruzan.
At C0 he also beats Xiao _IF_ you have at least C2 Faruzan... her C2 is the tipping point that makes C0 Wanderer beat C0 Xiao.
If you only have C0 or C1 Faruzan, Xiao is better though.
@@Kaiji... Im not sure man, pretty sure Xiao is better all the way thru and mabye Wanderer is comparable at C6 Faru :D
The buff was that there was no buff.
I thought you would say"you can clear spiral abyss with 4 star character you may do it with 3star as well(dehya)"3:40
I'm skipping Yelan/Hu Tao and I will use my guarantee for Dehya 😂
and i don't own any of Hu tao or Yelan.
Idk if this is pure madness or a genius move... The line between is very thin...
Luckily I own both and I'm saving my primos and guaranteed for her and her weapon.
So you are one of those people 7:48
I'm planning the same thing lol
As long as you're happy and really like her character I believe you can have fun so go for it :D
This is why I pulled for constellations on Raiden, Kazuha and Nahida. So I can always guarantee an easy abyss 36* and at the same time pulling for waifu and not caring how good they are anymore.
I like your practical and clever thinking. I plan to do the same.
I respect that, but I feel frustrating how the make her so shit because she can't proc yelan or XQ on field when bursting, her E is 20s cd so don't synergise well with the shorter rotations of other characters burst and skills, her application of pyro is so bad she can't be a burgeon character. Hoyo go out their way to create a character that not only have bad dmg but doesn't work well with other supports that could carry her dps...
What do you mean.. guarantee an easy 36 abyss ? these character you mentioned, at C0, are already strong enough to guarantee you a 36 stars.
Look, I respect your decision but the way I see it, it’s kinda encourage Hoyoverse to continue their exploit via scummy tactic.
@@nanathedelta8561 What do i mean? Well, it's clearing the abyss with 30s~a minute left on the clock without any trouble. I have an alt with c0s and while i still 36* there every time, there's some stages where it's a struggle or need to reset to change teams, stuff like that. Like I said, it's to guarantee an EASY 36*.
@@nanathedelta8561 take this abyss for example, 12-2 was a struggle for my c0 alt, had to reset a couple of times before i figured out a team and bought shielders to help. On my constellation account it was a cakewalk, didn't even realize 12-2-1 hit that hard the first time because they died too quickly.
Even tho this might not be an official Zajef clips account (tho I wish he'd see this comment) I kinda want him to release a Xenon pre-release or Ask Zajef Xenon edition on exactly April 1st because of April Fools lol
Theory crafters limit tests a characters strength. Mihoyo limit tests a characters lack of strength
i did not know drututt was in our community, happy to see him
Damn I remember the day 1010 OPPA said something bad about EULA and r/eulamains went wild. I never left a subreddit so quickly before
i hope xenon becomes something like guncharov where it doesnt exist but everyone acts like it does (some 3d artist could make xenon footage lmao)
Still don't get why they can't just make her complete HP scaling like Yelan...
Maybe Dehya is only a friend we got along the way
Dehya's kit looking pretty sus after the latest world quest where the racist jinni lamp was basically proven correct and you brutally slaughter every single member of a dark skinned tribe.
I agree with what you said. Pull for the character who you like. It’s fine to do that. I like that you didn’t sh- on those who pull for design. And I also agree if you’re pulling because you think Dehya is strong, then you’ll be disappointed. I will pull her for design and some of her kit does seem interesting, but if I lose 50/50 then I won’t spend to get her. I’ll go for other characters that are upcoming.
I like the absurdity that the group just easily accepted Xenon’s face. Like this is good, let’s use this. Lmao
So nice that Zajef had Slavoj Zizek on as a guest!
I liked when someone in chat said "Like a burgeon" when Zajef talked about Dehya burgeon teams.
*****d for the very first time! Yeah, absolutely true if you pull for her.
Why are people buffing Dehya with Bennett when they could just stay on Bennett?
Bennett best dps
True, tf bennett E spammer > Dehya
Her role is literally to look pretty, zhongli is the best defensive character and dehya's half assed damage mitigation is a joke compared to not only zhongli but most other shields
Uhm.. not really, her mitigation is pretty solid. It’s just that she doesn’t provide anything else.
If we look at Zhongli, sure, he doesn’t do damage but at least you get universal RES shred.
@@nanathedelta8561 the problem with Dehya is that u on field character still receives DMG, but less. So it's like DMG reduction of Xingqiu
@@batatapalha1241 that’s the point, duh. that’s why I said it was solid. having DMG reduction similar to XQ is not a joke.
@@nanathedelta8561 For her, it's good but not enough. A C5 Xingqiu and a C0 Dehya have more or less the same DMG reduction, but for Dehya that's like very important part of her kit while for Xingqiu is actually a Extra, since what truly matter is his Burst (But of course, his E makes him even better). But there's more thing, Xingqiu gives more Resistance to Interrupting than her, while his kit doesn't even focus on that while her does. That with also a extremely good hydro application, a little of healing for the Team (Dehya can only heal herself) and also a lot of personal DMG. So yeah, it's actually a good thing having this DMG reduction but it's not exactly enough since she doesn't provide much more than that. And if we are taking about characters for just tanking, so Zhongli, Kokomi, Jean and many others are actually better than Dehya, since they also have a better elemental application (Expect for Zhongli, but his shield is better than any DMG reduction and decrease resistance). Well, they at least give her HP% scaling in the DMG, but was to little (But it's already a thing). Now is just hope for a future artifact set or maybe a new mechanic. But like u said in your first comment (I even forgot about him, i did read again), it's actually that. Pretty solid DMG RES but not enough, but now that i think on that, Xingqiu is actually better since with Dehya this DMG RES of the on field character actually goes for her, kinda funny
Druttut + Zajeff or Zy0x interactions are always funny lol!
We all wanted Dehya to be a main dps or sub dps, and even a driver. Although the low dmg scalings clearly seems they want us to focus on her defensive utility more.
Let me paint a picture, imagine a burgeon dps comes out. Procs high amounts of burgeon dmg, only works with pyro, hydro, and dendro for a Nilou type passive to work. Bennett healing also may not be enough especially if the character is similar to Hutao who likes to be low hp or has a rapidly depleting hp bar similar to Xiao on top of the burgeon self dmg. That could be where she has value. Using Thoma might steal burgeon procs from the dps so he may not be a good pick for said burgeon dps.
In some cases slower pyro app may be better. Let's not forget Burgeon and Burning r clearly outperformed by Hydrobloom and Quicken comps. Seems like an intentional set up for future characters to give the reactions some value.
Everyone hated on Thoma expecting him to be pyro xingqui remember. Healers were also regarded as useless for the majority of 1.0 to early half of 2.0. Till healers got the Calm set and an enemy specifically designed to counter shields and incentivise healing. Xiao also didn't have a dedicated artifact set for a year.
U can't Calc the future if the information available is incomplete. I do think Dehya is a skip now, and see if her value increases on a rerun or 2nd rerun. Hoyoverse is making this a trend now. Imagine if Mika came out before we ever got Eula. Mika would be such an underwhelming and hated character.
I could be wrong about her and she could forever be a useless character. Although imagine if we r all wrong though about her current value months ahead. We would all look like clowns.
TLDR: Dehya is probably a Solution to a Problem that we don't have "yet".
Assuming that you're right about that possible "future" burgeon character, Dehya will never be enough to survive especilly in burgeon team who do self damage. Have you hear Zajeff ? She is worse than Thoma as a defensive utility. You will still need a shilder or a healer anyway. Even the concept of a character who want to be low HP does not go in her favor. Dehya only mitigate a part of the damage you take, not all and she only heal herself meaning you will die sooner or later. Even if you onfield her, her self heal is again not enough to keep up and her damage is not worth the slot in your party. If Bennet is not enough, it's not Dehya who will be able to compete. Her defensive utility does not make sense to begin with, there is no case at all where i can see her perform better than shielder or a healer instead, worse you sill need them if you value survavability. She may be have a purpose we don't see yet but you are cooping if you think that her defensif utility would make up for that.
@everyone don't worry, they're only keeping Dehya looking weak because they don't want to lose income on the Hu Tao | Yelan banner. They're planning on making her even stronger than Hu Tao and even better off field than Yelan. True. The buffs will come out after they cash out on the current banner. Just wait.
lol ok
Copium systems are overloading, this rates will break the machine
This would lowkey be a genius move though lol but it’s not actually gonna happen.
Meanwhile mihoyo clowning on Zhongli kit in 1.0
I really really want to get her but the leak said that 2 new Disney princesses is about to come in 3.6, and they will make my husbando dream team come true.
im lol and genshin player, and its so freaking fun to watch these two
The buffs are a step in the right direction, at least she won't have split scaling now because FOR SOME REASON HoYo wanted to pull that shit again.
They aren't enough to make her good of course; she's still terrible. I'm on copium that they've laid the groundwork to finally start making her better.
That'd be great, but as far as we know, that's it for the beta, since this was the last Monday of beta and that's when updates release. Could she get shadow buffed? I guess? I think Kokomi got the ICD on her Jellyfish removed, but other than that, I'm not aware of any changes to characters on/after release.
Tbh, with her current state they could legitimately put her C1-C5 on her base kit and she'd be balanced, so...yeah. Still needs a lot of work, which seems unlikely to happen at this stage.
@@wes2287 Ganyu was also changed basically on release to give her burst 100% uptime
@wes2287 There are still a couple weeks left for changes to be made; added HP scaling to her Talents is just the most recent update. That said, things are looking grim for Dehya if this is the level of buff we should expect.
Well, something interesting I found. If you apply the quicken aura, you can cause burning and still get aggravate. Applying too much Pyro ruins the reaction though. This might be the best team for Dehya
I yearn to reach a level of cope as powerful as this, I would have no problems in life
@@TJ_Sind2000 how so? This style of team was experimented with when people were testing out teams for Cyno
i mean as a eula main i agree she under preforms in abyss
i hope that they will do an "ask zajeff" on xenon and show the new subreddit for it aswell
I know Dr. Ututt plays Genshin but I didn't expect him to be on stream. I need to watch these things live one of these days.
People were begging for HP scaling and now she's closer to split scaling instead of dual scaling like Nahida/Alhaitham since 1) she doesn't work with Yelan/Xingqiu for hydro resonance and 2) Bennett can't buff her as much anymore. HP ascension, split between HP/atk, and her BiS is a crit rate claymore like wtf is hoyo thinking with this kit lol
Damn that Xenon the Xenophobic is having a life of its own!
7:15 I dont think zajef understood a single thing said
I don't care about deyha anymore, I'm saving for c6 Xenon.
Ive been a Eula main since her first banner release but im like OKCode whose favorite character is Xinyan. Yeah, we know they are not the best but we don't care and understand when others say they are not worth a pull 🤣
Yeah, tho Xinyan is a 4 star... Dehya is a 5 star that is looking like one of the worst units in the game, with no place in any teams at all since there are better counter parts. i mean she can be slightly better than c0 Hu Tao if you spend that 1k buck to get her to c6.
Genshin team is just inferior to the other Hoyo teams.
@@TheYeahzus bro so madge even the mob, world designers, and music team got dragged into this
Drut with zajef is what dreams teams should be like
I thought Dehya buffs dropped but its just more dehya copium.
God I want my tanned sungoddess mommy to be at least decent.
Her buff was that she didn't get nerfed into the ground a 2nd time
I already feel bad for Dehya Va, I bet someone's gonna harass her like it's her fault...
All my homies are saving for Xenon c6 on day one 💪😤
We need a live dehya reaction
Dendro changed the game so much that now the quote "Thoma is better than some 5*s" is true. Bruh
I was going to make sure I got her but with all the nerfs and weird kit I made sure to secure c1 yelan and its so nice. Hopefully Ill win 50/50 on Dehya
OKOKOK I GOT IT I GOT IT
DEHYAS PASSIVE IS BROKEN!
Its a 10% movement speed buff during daytime on a claymore character so you can guarantee dragonstrike spam without having to rely on any other characters!
BUSTED OP! Y'all can meme all day but I KNOW THE TRUTH AHAHAHAHA!
!dehya44
I just wanna make sure, am i the only one that will triple crown her for the memes?
Sure yeah
Nice
yep
bro a little too dedicated to the meme
I know someone lost a bet and has to triple crown her lol
Every time we ask for a character that isnt as pale as the new fucking moon they nerf deyha
Pulling Homa for my Zhongli, Rosaria, Xiangling, Xiao and Raiden. I have Fav Lance, Dragon’s Bane and The Catch. I want Homa and Scarlet Sands.
Okay, I understend but Homa on Raiden is garbo, just use catch if going for hyper or Dragon's Bane if going for Hyperbloom.
Worst is Keqing, Eula, and hu Tao mains they are the only mains that I've seen arguing. I'm a Rosaria main btw
r/Kokomimains are having a victim complex ever since when Kokomi was released. All because of people kicking them in Co-op and the "No Crit?" memes.
i think she's alright with burgeon, she can spread the damage to her team so I don't know if thats viable
but that wouldn't be her kit though which is sajj
Idk, Thoma can proc like, 3x more burgeon and his kit it's also not for that
A carry that's worse than Xinyan or a defensive support that's worse than Thoma OMEGALUL
as a defender of eula i can agree the fact that we get personal
personally dishonest lmao
he really ate the "eat this"
If she’s at least mid and can enable some fun teams I’ll probably still roll for her. If not I’ll just go for shenhe rerun, nbd.
That is the thing with her... she dosen't have teams where other don't do what her job would be much better then her and that is what is sad about it. I've been waiting for her since her first reveal in the sumeru previews i'd never expect a 5 STAR being soo bad... I wouldn't care if she was a 4* but c'mon.
@@TheYeahzus For sure, and a definitely wouldn't recommend pulling for relatively new accounts. But after playing for a long time, every pull now is "for fun" more or less, and I like her character and animations,. If she has some half decent burning/burgeon teams I'd still like to try her out, even if she's not the strongest.
@@defenestratedone Yeah, I mean I'm like 3 pulls away from her with a lot saved up anyway so if anything I'll just get her collection and hope for the best, maybe they'll really give us an artifact set that will help her.
As for burgeon, she is just to slow to proc the seeds and nothing in her kit has anything to do with EM, but I guess we can force it lol and get those two burgeons every 2.5 seconds while Thoma gets 10 every 5 seconds lol xD
@@TheYeahzus these dehya wanters just sound so desperate bro 💀, now i feel bad for you, don't wast your primos on garbage, just accept dehya is shit and move on
The only copium I have for her currently is that partial hp scaling in base kit at least makes the possible synergy with Fontaine characters in the future more likely
Also there's the possibility of a dedicated artifact set but it would need to be insane to make her at least a decent 5* but it would also have to be specific enough to not buff other characters too much
Instructions unclear. Pulling Dehya.
I am going to try to get her and then cry whether I get her or not
Ok so this is going to be me pulling for Dehya like I pulled for xinyan, back when xinyan released I got her c6 and as a result I also have c1 zhongli
The only good thing about lantern rite was the Guizhong lore. Everything else was significantly worse than last year's especially Hu Tao's rap. For anyone who thinks it sounds better in CN, even CN players think her rapping was shit lmao
Ok so basically dehya only good in mono pyro team comp with kazuha bennet which makes her pretty bad since shes pyro not geo/physical dps
i decided to skip her after her last update.. and I think it was the last beta for update.. usually 4/5x update..
so I pulled alhaitam yesterday lmao.. also I'm coping on baizhu leak to be a dednro buffer and good with haitham..
We need more drutt x zajef content
I hope they buff Xenon before they come out! I've been looking forward to them since 1.3!
the druttut feature brought me LIFE
The thumbnail 😂😂😂😂
I’m so sad for dehya, I wasn’t gonna pull for her (hardcore saver and I don’t prefer claymores) but what is up with her kit is so horid
Prayge Our father who art in heaven, hear me out man plz. I beg of you. Theres this video game, mr god sir. Its called genshin impact. a lot of the times it really sucks but sometimes its really cool. and in this video game there is this character that will be release soon that i think is pretty well. pretty nifty. quite fun, very cool. like triple thumbs up. and i, it would be really nice...if she was not the anti christ... okay. thats all im saying okay. dont make her the anti-christ plz.
Xenon will make Dehya good in patch 5.2 guys, source is Uncle Balls
Gonna pair her with my godcracked xiangling + benny so i can cope she does dmg
She is not even BiS for expeditions sadge
Mihoyo did worse than not even adding dehya to the game
The made you despise the character on the long term because of losing 50/50s
Its not that shes basically not even in the game because shes too weak, shes actually going to force her way into your game despite you wanting absolutely anyone but her
dehya burgeon DOES work, but goddamn its super slow pyro application
I heard, "Booba get them" 💀
Where are the Xenon leaks
He didn't pull for Al haitham but he is gonna pull for DEHYA??
He likes Dehya as a character and her kit is quite interesting for him. He didn't say Alhaitham is bad or anything, he's not really interested with his kit + Nahida can cover his role. As a Alhaitham enjoyer myself, he isn't really a must pull unit. He pulled Cyno even knowing that he isn't really that great just because Cyno's a perfect Thundering Fury dps. Hell, he's also a Xinyan main
@@cocoroach_ok True. I wasn't criticizing him dont worry. I agree Alhaitham is not necessary addition to your account. But I have seen some people in the Alhaitham main subreddit that think otherwise. Like I saw a comment under his video post so bullshit like "He thinks hutao a nessary pull but not haitham" what? When has he ever said that?
I guess all this is justified because Dehya is a 4 star unit, but I wonder who the new 5 star will be then, so far it hasn't been announced yet.
Well, since Yelan take all my primogem. i think is a good thing
Amazing how any Dehya pro argument can be dismissed by mentioning another pyro 4 star, they did really dirty with her
Dehya on field driver for hyperbloom (never press e or q)
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