Suzuki GSX 1400, Full Brake and Clutch Fluid Change! (Vacuum Bleeder)!
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2023
- A full Hydraulic Fluid Change...And by the easiest method ever !
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What caught me off guard was how user friendly the speed at which the vacuum pulled the fluid through. I always thought these things were pretty much for cars, but if you were careful, you could make it work on a bike. I imagined a much higher volume of fluid to be pulled out so quickly that it would be difficult to keep a tiny reservoir filled, but that looked very manageable without a: "auuuugh, darn it, I emptied a master cylinder in 1/2 a second and brought in air!" Brilliant!
Ha ha, no, it's really gentle and predictable, it actually purges through really slowly if you don't pump the lever, just let the suction do the work.. but when you pump it too, you can control the flow and just let go of the trigger when the rez gets low.. Simple and effective aye !
I've owned a Mityvac vacuum hand pump for decades. I'm pretty sure they still come with the brake-bleeding bottle, and they're useful for verifying the integrity of vacuum lines, vacuum diaphragm assemblies and other tasks other than just brakes. I can see how a unit designed specifically for brakes would be useful as well (as you've demonstrated).
hi del been some years since i last commented, i remember watch you on the blue bandit1200 you bought working out of your garage, you helped me with my bandit 1200, coil issue cutting on full power, the laugh is give me the confidence to rebuild my brakes on that bike, now all theses years later, i went back to college and qualified hgv/psv mechanic, now a full time bus mechanic, thanks for your videos, you give me that confidence start spannering, the laugh had my gsx1400 blue white for a year now , this is how i found your videos again, big thanks from me,
Wow Kieren, congraulations mate, and what a kindred spirit, I qualified as a bus fitter back in the 1980's and everything grew from there... so welcome back to the Channel, it's great to have you aboard mate... and don't work too hard mate, the drivers will always break the buses for you!
I bought one of those bleeder tools a while back but have yet to use it. Mine didn't come with the tee set-up but I suppose it would be easy to add. Thanks for the review and demo of the tool. Thanks to Penny for the great close-up views. I got a smile when you were wrapping the teflon tape on the air fitting. I've done that 100s of times and still have to stop and think about winding it in the right direction. I guess the wife is right...I must have a slow leak in my brain.😁 Blessings and big thanks to you both. ❤👍👍
You're not wrong, I thought it was just me that had to take that moment to stare at the thread, rotate it in your hand a minute and make sure you wind backwards! Thanks for your very kind, as always, we truly appreciate it, have a wonderful week there, take care, D&Px
Good video Del.
I have used that kit before, when it was time to do the clutch I just pulled one long pipe from the T piece and put that directly on to the reservoir, I just pulled the short piece of pipe along with the T piece and remaining long pipe from the unit and chucked it to one side.
Your way with using the other bleed nipples to blank off works perfect I'm just a funny bugger and in my head I'm like nope, one nipple one pipe lol.
Keep the GSX 1400 videos coming this is decent content and we are all enjoying it.👍🏻
All the best
Ethen
Ha ha, yeah, what ever works to bung up the extra hose.. even just hold yer thumb over the hole..lol! Glad you're enjoying the content buddy, got some more to come as well, so glad you approve.!
Thanks so much , ive finally bought a pump , your vids are invaluable
You're most welcome Mark. Glad to help mate !
Thank you for these videos!
Brilliant Delboy, you made that look like short work, just to let you know I’m out of hospital and recovering well, back to work on reduced hours and finally with the help of your great videos carried out a full service on my Kawasaki Ninja 400, I’m looking forward to wearing my Delboys garage T shirt with pride!, you and Penny keep up the good work, your videos got me through hospital, thank you mate..
Hi Paul, we're both so pleased to hear that, nothing like being at home to continue your recovery, so we hope you continue to get stronger. So glad the videos have helped you, and hopefully when the sun shines and you feel well, a nice ride! You take care and keep in touch, all the very best, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 wish I was working from home but sadly no, I work as a Food factory maintenance Engineer and am in on reduced hours, bit knackering but gradually building the strength up, will get there!
Just seen a video of someone saying you need to have a paper suit on to paint so you don't get any dirt in the paint I was a painter for 32 years I had a low bake spray oven an still had to rub down an polished everything anyway think the show is brilliant
I bought one 2 years ago. It's a must for Harley's or other bikes with ABS.......Good video, Thanks!
I used to have a Swedish (Mytivac) vacuum bleeder. But since brake fluid is corrosive, the handpump got destorted after all those years. I've changed fluids manually since. Takes longer, more prone to leaks. Thanks for reminding me to get such a vacuum bleeding system again. Saves time, easy to use. Günter/Nürnberg
Yes it's a shame that these things finally wear out do to the chemicals they work with... but not expensive, we left a link in the description if you need it my friend.
Enjoying the gsx 1400 videos.
keep it up. Love your videos
What a great addition to the workshop Del👍
Absolutely mate, thanks for your support as always!
Love your vids thanks so much. 😍👍👍👍
I've got one of those and they do work great, Used it to do my front brake as it was taking forever doing it manually with the ABS system. 😊
Thanks for sharing John, it does make it so easy aye !
Is it different to use ABS vs No ABS? I heard something about the pressure you use needs to be low for ABS systems or you can stuff them up. Any truth to this? I just bought one and would like to use it but not F anything up :)
Was looking forward to seeing this video of the vacuum pump and great to see how simple the pump is to use del, it's the manual one i purchased but basically the same, have done my brakes a few months but might redo them now with the pump. And like you said no mess at all, cheer's for putting this up M8, all the best to yourself and Penny and hope you both have a nice day....Don
Thanks Don, glad you approve mate.. and when it's as easy at this you can do it every year aye..! Thanks for your kind support and keep safe aye..D&Pxx
If this doesn't motivate people to do this stuff in their garage... pay me the $250 for the service and I'll take care of it for you :) great motivation to get outside wrenching on your stuff.
My thoughts exactly buddy, when it's this easy, there's no need to pay for this kind of domestic chores aye !
Ones don’t want get their hands dirty… pays the price!!! Lol
I’ve had one for years Amazon $15 works like a champ and you’re right so much cleaner
I've got a hand pump one, wouldn't be without it! Made life with my old vfr vtec and abs much easier and use it on the FJR and BMW now.
Great video as always mate!
Right on, i can't think ill find a reason to go back to manual bleeding now...!!
What an amazing bit of kit Del! Something to add to the toolbox. Until net time!
Sure thing mate, link in the description, time to treat yourself then!!
Just did it with the one with only one hose, I definitely will switch over to two hoses.
As always. I like seeing you in the video!
Thank You!
Dellboy after watching you and the brake fluid vacuum I bought one and used it yesterday on my Indian Scout and it was great except for the front brake, I found the tubes could be a little longer which I feel would make using them little easier.
A word of warning - make sure you point the bottle away from the bike as brake fluid mist comes out and could damage paint work if you don’t take care the way you point the bottle.
Just curious, why pump the lever?
Speeds it up mate, it'll purge through without pumping, but just take a lot longer.
Hey Del, inspire me !!!
Bought one of these at the bike show this year, my Bandit front lever still shit after calliper rebuild so gonna give it a go this weekend 👍
Good luck!
Great tool the bike sounds great
Hi Del a nice addition to your work shop mate You made it look easy I think even I could do it
You jolly well could mate, this thing makes it so simple, even our Nana's could have a bash!
Sensacional!, Meu sonho é montar uma oficina de motos aqui no Brasil, tenho aprendido muito com seus vídeos. Muito obrigado meu amigo.
Seria uma ótima ideia, boa sorte com ela e esperamos que você tenha muito sucesso com ela. Obrigado por suas amáveis palavras.
Just received my new as recommended by yourself the brake fluid water content tester.
Thanks del 😊
Nice one Marc, it's a great little tool, it'll always show 1%, even a newly opened bottle will show that the next time you come to use it, just as long as it stays out of the red! Have a great week mate.
@Moonfleet41 Thanks Del without this tool, I would always replace the fluid. Now I don't have to even though I have a spongy leaver.
So last night, cable tied it to the grip. Hopefully, this sorts it. Don't want to be going down the road again ouch 😂
So you didn't buy ot through spanner monkey then mate?
Well, I have a hand pump vac bleeder. After a multitude of pressure and fluid fed into reservoir systems, one way valve bleed tubes, giant syringes pushing fluid, my mate/brother/ sister/ daughter/ neighbour/ cat, on the pedal/lever. They all work to varying degrees. But I have to conceed the vac bleed is by far the cleanest. And you're not going to blow the seals with too much pressure ( max 5 psi on classics just for safety).
And like all of us here, I bloody hate brake fluid anywhere but in the brake system! evil stuff!
Peas n loaf ✌️🤗🧡
Sure is evil stuff, gets everywhere, just glad it doesn't pickle paint anymore! Nice to work clean and tidy aye bruv?! Have a great week mate, keep safe, D&Px
Superb bit of kit, Del… that was mighty efficient indeed. I’m thinking I might find yet another good use for one of those when emptying the MIL’s colostomy bag. 😎
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Absolutely buddy, all sorts of uses!
I bought one of these vacuum bleeders 7-8 years ago. They are the only way I'd bleed brakes now. What I don't quite understand is why you pumped the brake handle while you where pulling vacuum. Since the whole fluid system is open when the brake lever is in rest position, it shouldn't be necessary. You can pull the fluid strait through without actuating the lever (or brake peddle on a car). What is your theory there?
Yeah, just speeds it up hugely mate...takes maybe a quarter of the time to purge through this way.. but like you say, still works just fine by itself, just a lot slower !
Gotta love technology advances!
What thread gauge / BSP does it use Del for the air line ?
I got one to use on my car but found it difficult to tell if I had got rid of all the air - it's harder to see the bubbles in the tubes. I'll need to try it on my bike!
I bought the same bleeder in Germany and it came like yours without a fitting. I will rebuild all hydraulics on the GSX 1400 with steel braided hoses. I dont want to spend hours on the leavers and bleeder nipples.
Since 10 years i own a pump style bleeder for my car and it works great, bit it does not fit on the MC-hydraulics.
Well done for spotting the rear has TWO bleed nipples, I had no idea when I refurbed the calipers on my 1400. Took me forever to get the air out and actually have a rear brake again 🤣 I think from memory we are meant to do the inner nipple 1st, then the outer? but I am often wrong about these things. Great device that you used too, I have the hand pump version here.
Yes you're right buddy, they are so often missed, and tricky to bleed up one at a time... one more reason to treat yourself to this vacuum tool aye..lol!
I've never found the standard job difficult, but if others like the top then great.
God I hate working with brake juice, nasty stuff. As such, a vacuum bleeder is 100% worth investing in. Nice camera work by the way.
Darn right Travis, something about the feel of DOT 4 thats like nails in a blackboard, and it get's everywhere.. such a joy to do it this way !
I always wondered how they worked using an airline, thanks for demonstrating it so clearly Del. Next job, swap that bake bean tin end can out for something a bit classier 😅
Yeah, on the list mate.. got the Harley exhaust to buy first..!! lol
Very slick, Del!
I'm missing the Harley! I hope you get back to it soon.
Yes indeed John.. got the paint work for the recent bodywork coming up shortly, just waiting for the exhaust system to be made also, and then not much left to do.!
There’s always more to do later !! Grin
Hi Del, i just bought one of the Sealey bleeding kits - is there a part number for the fitting to connect to my air hose? Keep up the good work.
I got a hand pump one and it was worth every penny.
Great to hear it buddy... wouldn't be without this now..!
Think I'll be having to invest in one of these, will have to get the hand pump version though. ...Great vid 👍
Either version will make life a lot easier mate.. got to be worth a punt aye !
Just bought both, syringe and the bleeder, got a few bike services to do soon so they`ll come in handy, cheers bloke.
Good investment mate, you wont' regret it, doesn't only save you time, but it's clean and simple as well, no mess!
big thank you to yourself, i watched your caliper build from some years back, followed to the best of my ability and it all works fine,
Most welcome, glad we could help!
Cracking video, never knew about the vac working on bikes ,defo ordering one soon, the tool you used for replacing the clutch cover , was it a torque driver ?? What's the proper name that would come in very handy when working on older bikes. Many thanks.
Hi buddy.. it's one of these :- www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/Wiha-Torque-T-Handle-ST-Plus-TorqueVario-Set-29234?search=torque%20vario%20st&description=true
@@Moonfleet41, fantastic thanks. Have a cracking evening.
Wow easy as. So now the question. How to do ABS lines!? I ride a 2008 gtr1400 ABS model and have been wondering about the ABS lines.
Hi del I've changed my clutch slave seal re bled clutch bike still creeps forward and clutch soft even tho fluid running clear mate any ideas
Hey Delboy, i have a problem in my front brake having a long travel before it bites. Like 1 inch and then it works fine, no spungy feeling or nothing, but the long travel is not confidence inspiring. Its a Suzuki K4 master with steel braded lines runing to a 2004 Z750 stock calipers. PS. Havent changed the brake fluid in few years, but is clear. Have you seen this problem before and what could be the fix for it. Tnx.
Hi mate, change the brake fluid anyway, it doesn't have to be dirty to be waterlogged, it's always worth it... the longer travel could be that you've mis-matched calipers and master, they're designed for different caliper capacities. As long as you have a firm lever with a good inch away from the bar at full lock, then it's safe.
Comprei uma ferramenta para extrair rolamentos igual a que vi você usando. Tive que importar por que por aqui no Brasil, não vi igual.
Hi Del, how would you use this if you were starting completely dry or rebuilt the brake calipers and needed to bleed the brakes... Cheers mate.
Exactly the same mate.. i wanted to quickly change the fluid right away as it was horrible..(as you saw).. but i will be fitting HEL braided hoses very soon all round, so will be "starting dry" using this to method to purge up the new empty hoses..!
Nice, I am going to buy one! What PSI did you have your compressor set to for the Sealy bleeder? Take care, Ride safe.
Cheers Bill.. i ran the bleeder from 90psi, works just fine at that !
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks, I know my compressor can handle anything at 200 PSI, just wanted to make sure. Ride safe.
Yeah, it's real user friendly, operates on a regular garage supply, 90 to 120..! Link in the description if you want one mate !
If you have a small compressor or are not in a hurry, you don't have to continually supply air, sometimes I just use the air to get it started and the gravity bleed into the container.
Could you not have used the vacuum bleeder to suck the fluid out of the reservoirs rather than the syringe?
I suppose if you wanted to !!!
Looks good, love the fact you can do both front at once. I’ve got a similar one for van that pushes air into reservoir via spare tyre 👍🏻
Very cool mate, always good to have the right tool for the job!
Personally I take the calipers loose and invert them to dump out the old fluid
Great video as always, Del. Can you (or anyone else) confirm the hand pump version of the vacuum bleeder is a Sealey VS1205 ? as Spanner monkey only has the pneumatic version
The one you listed there Steve is for cars, the cap screws onto the reservoir, and pressure forces the fluid in, you then just open the bleed valves to vent the fluid... but a hand pump version of mine, i didn't see one listed on Sealer, perhaps time to invest in a small compressor, you'll use it for other things too, and then lots of other air tools are open to you..!!
I have a Silverline 734801, which uses a brass gun-type hand pump to create the vacuum. I was not entirely satisfied with using this compared with using the brake lever to force fluid through. I had two issues: the capacity of the reservoir is not enough for a fluid change. If you are in the UK, I modified a Kilner jar (from Dunelm) and used that. The second issue is that once the bleed nipple is opened, even if only slightly, air is drawn down the screw threads, creating bubbles in the fluid passing through the clear tubing between the nipple and the reservoir. This makes it impossible to know if all the air is out of the system or not. Wrapping the nipple thread with PTFE tape is a recommended cure for this.
I must add that I was bleeding brake calipers which had been completely stripped down, and so contained air. There should be no air in the system when doing a fluid change as described here.
Caution - Only for workshop use & NOT approved by the Ministry of Silly Remedies for use on Vesuvian-level acne, lifting olives off your pizza or making granny's blow-fish look funny.
Talking of fun, Spring it has sprung, time for you & Mrs.Outtake to get your knees in the breeze . . . none of this 'yeah-but, no-but' Pollardian carp, we want pictures . . . & cake! : )
Another very helpful vid Del. What exhaust can or system do u have on that bike ?? and is there a power commander, it sounds absolutely fantastic reverbing like that inside the garage
Believe it or not mate.. it's the standard factory header pipes, with an unbranded mid pipe and cut down end can... There is no power commander or other tuning device on the bike... so just a loud can.!
Excellent video Del & Penny. Job well done mate, they are a great bit of kit. I have had one for years, it's the only way to go. Penny and you enjoy the last part of your week and stay safe. Cheers
Thanks mate.. proof again that im just an old ludite that's always behind the times..lol!
Most that have issues bleeding, open the nipple to much and it can suck air around the thread.
im looking at buying one of the vacuum pumps but cant seem to find the double hose one to do both the nipples , did they come like that or did you modify it.. or does it come with a tee piece in the kit ?
There you go buddy, click Buy Now! www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/brake-caliper-clutch-bleeder-1l-pneumatic-vacuum-single-and-twin-122368?search=vs020tc&description=true
@@Moonfleet41 ok kool thanks .. expect shipping to oz to be a bit exy ... ill check it out thanks mate : ))
@@mjwello If they won't ship to Australia, then Sealey do ship worldwide, so just contact them direct! www.sealey.co.uk/product/5637857080/pneumatic-vacuum-single-twin-brake-caliperclutch-bleeder-1l
@@Moonfleet41 yeh the problem lies with the shipping costs .. quite often a lot more than the cost of the item, ive seen several other similar types on ebay but not with the double tubes .. but i guess that could be easily modified to suit and they are around 20 odd dollars which is about a third of the cost of the sealey one and free shipping .. obviously they may be of questionable quality.. but i guess you do way more of that stuff than i ever would so it wouldn't get hammered ... but again i appreciate your reply and really enjoy your videos ... recently just replaced the front fork seals and oil on the ole gsx1400 so that was a great help even tho you only did the oil change that alone was a great help .. great work mate !!
Usual standard of video.( excellent).
I use Veterinary Syringes to suck out the old fluids in my brake and clutch M/Cs.
They’re sizeable; large volume and easy to use.
I have one of those old style vacuum pumps which works pretty well- now that I’ve seen you do two callipers at once I’m going to rig up a “tee” piece and see how that works with my twin disc bikes.
Thanks.
Most welcome Nick, good luck with it mate..
Great Video and a great product well executed on how to do you a hydraulics great job Del 💯👌👍
Cheers Chris. Glad you enjoyed it mate!
Great job Del, what a great way to do brakes! I shall be investing, along with the compressor in due course. I started out 40 years ago and always learn something from your uploads, thanks to you and Penny for all you're efforts 👍
That's great news Michael. Best of luck with it, it'll make life easy for this kind of job.. sounds like you've been at it about as long as me.. and it's time we made life easy where we can aye mate ..lol!
@@Moonfleet41 cheers Del, I know what you mean. Arthritis is stopping me work on bikes now so I have saved up for a table lift, getting it this weekend, so I can work upright. I just can't kneel or work on the ground any longer and not spannering is in turn, stopping my riding. Hopefully it will all come together again this year.
@@michaelmclarney1994 Glad to hear it mate, there's no disgrace in making life easier for yourself and it's a noble thing to spanner your own bikes and keep them safe, have fun and enjoy the coming summer!
@@Moonfleet41 thanks Del, you too 👍
Looks like another tool to add to the collection! I think Del should have a warning on his videos something like “watching this video may seriously affect your wallet” 😂😂😂
Good point buddy, sorry about that, but if we didn't need these things, they wouldn't be useful lol
Afternoon Folks, speaking of links,,
Can you please provide one for the T handle torque wrench tool set you use quite often 🙏 please. I'd like to get one. Cheers 🍻, G.
Hi Gabriel, happy to help, here's the link you need, they're in stock at the moment: www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/Wiha-Torque-T-Handle-ST-Plus-TorqueVario-Set-29234?search=torque%20vario%20st&description=true
Hydraulic clutch leaver always puzzles me and the hard action you get from the case of the brake leaver.
How do you know when I have a properly functioning clutch leaver after bleeding? For future reference Del
I had this issue on my bandit 12
Nice video mate 😊
It's more about when you feel it's not fully bled.. although the clutch isn't a hard lever like a brake.. it's still feels definite when it's right, precise and accurate control of the pull away.. and when it's not, and they're spongy.. they feel awful.. you'd soon know mate !
@Moonfleet41 Thanks Del
Is it as easy as that when a bike has an ABS tank to purge?
It depends on the bike and who the factory designed the system mate !
Be especially careful that no air enters the system from above. A manufacturer-specific routine is required to bleed the ABS block and a diagnostic system is required to control the valves to get the air aut from the ABS.
That kit sure works better than using a turkey baster to suck out the fluid and pump and crack, pump and crack, pump and crack, then forget to keep her topped off and pump the lines full of air... Not that I'd ever do such a foolish thing.... :)
Sure does mate, simplicity itself, no knack needed!
I don’t understand how you use a compressor to create a vacuum. Doesn’t a compressor do the opposite ie produce air under pressure?
Imagine how a carburettor works, air passing over the main jet causes vacuum in the float bowl, sucking the fuel out....!? Same physics, compressed air passes over a hole on the cap of the bottle, causing a vacuum inside it...and the tube you pop on the bleed valve feeds into another hole in the cap...thus the vacuum sucks the fluid through the system..! Simple physics buddy.!
@@Moonfleet41 Thanks Delboy! Unfortunately I failed physics, but your explanation makes sense. Perhaps you should have been my teacher….
Really impressed with the ease and speed of the bleed using this system. I’m one of those who put off doing it because I know it’s so messy and frustrating. Particularly on a ST1300 with 7 bleed points ☹️
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@@johnneaves5 Yeah, i was fascinated by physics and metalwork at school, thankfully had great teachers for both... Heres a fun little experiment.... if you have a vape, or someone else does.. then blow a load of vapour into an empty bottle till it's full..... then just blow hard across the top of the open bottle...watch it suck all the vapour out... !
I took the plunge and bought this little Sealey bleeder and a small Hyundai compressor. What a difference! Instead of the usual messy and frustrating job involving lots of swearing, leaking brake fluid all over the place, and still being left with air in the system at the end of it, this system made it a pleasure. The ST1300 is not an easy bike to change brake fluid on as there are 7 bleed points which have to be done in a specific order, and there are lots of opportunities for air to get trapped in the system. This set up makes light work of it, and I’ve never had such a solid feel at the lever before. I shall now look forward to hydraulic fluid changes in the future rather than dreading it!
Good solid purchase mate, as you can see, having the right tool for the job takes all the stress out of it... this is exactly what pro-techs use, you can't imagine them having the time to faff about for hours chasing air out when they've got a queue of customer bikes to fix... have fun with it and enjoy your projects!
Nice Work! Definitely 1 of those jobs that when done you wonder why you waited so long to get the improved feel .
Exactly, id love some of the minutes or hours back that ive spent chasing a firm lever..lol!
@@Moonfleet41 OH Yaa ! Been there !
Don't need to pump the lever tho. Does the hole point to have that tool.🤷♂️
Yeah, Purges slowly by itself, but pump the lever and you saw how it pushed it through in seconds 🤷♂️🤷♂️!
Good one boss 👍🏽
Stop making me buy stuff. I've had to move to a house with a bigger garage! Still the best thing on RUclips pal.
Sorry mate, but thanks for your kind words, we really appreciate the support!
I Like the sound brmmmmmm 💪😂😂😂
Earlier in the video I was thinking "what happens if you only have one front disc". That thought was put to rest at 8.00 in the video. The right tools for the job (and a motorcycle lift) makes life a lot easier. That job is a faff even if you are able bodied and a real pain in the a** as you get older.
ha ha., i know what you mean mate.. aches and pains of a lifetime.. and the lift makes it all bearable. wouldn't be without it now .
Wow…. Del I remember you way back in the small garage talking about how you father taught you. You are better than most trained bike mechanics in my area. Also you are turning these bikes around in record time.. 👏👏
Thanks Stephen, you're very kind mate.. i guess experience and practice helps.. ive been fiddling with bikes for over 40 years, you get the hang of it in the end.. !
Great new tool for the workshop Del
Nick Australia
It sure is mate ! Good to hear from you Nick.
Another great video brother! that vacuum pump is a game changer 🤙🤙🤙 what a breeze to bleed brakes ! Very well done 👍 stay safe guys cheers from new york 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🍺🍺🍺🍺
Love watching learning love nz say hi to your better half lol
Thanks mate, will do !