What Does The Bible Say About Alcohol & Social Drinking?
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2023
- In today’s Bible study, I would like to answer some pressing questions often debated about wine, alcohol, and Christians.
1) Was the wine and alcohol in biblical times comparable to the wine and alcohol of today?
2) Does the Bible promote the health benefits of alcohol?
3)Does Christian liberty give me permission to use alcohol?
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Everything I did sinful, I did while drunk. Praise God I returned to him.
I was an alcoholic- I prayed and asked for strength to quit/ I quit- quit cold turkey- 7 days of detox at home- almost died- I didn’t know you could from quitting cold turkey. But God got me through it. 9 years sober. No rehab- just Jesus. That was my rehab. Zero desires- and so happy to be away from that demon. God is the answer to everything.
PRAISE GOD!!!
Thank you Lord I don't desire alcohol.
"A man takes a drink and a drink takes a man".... Quote from Billy Graham. Don't be under the influence of alcohol but be filled and under the influence of The Holy Spirit.
Wisdom. Thank you! Amen🙏🙏🙏
say that to jesus who turned water into wine lmao
@@elie2133 Yes he did, but the Bible warns against drunkenness and the abuse of alcohol.
This is simple GOD'S WORD don't ever be in a alter mind state, drinking is not prohibited but you have to be careful drinking will bite you like a snake.
Isn't Jesus turning water into wine? Also, God's word simply enough. Yes, he was a fallen man. Kind of ends that whole diety thing
Thank God for this teaching. I pray for those who don't believe that alcohol has a way of getting ahold of one's life. I've lost so many loved ones , who fell into the trap of alcoholism. My heart and prayers go out to those who are held in it's clutches.
Christian liberty gives us the freedom to choose to be Holy.
Our joy has to come from Jesus.
The same Jesus who turned water into wine?
Amazing. Can’t wait for the next teaching where you discuss the wedding at Cana.
He'll literally tell you it's only the best grape juice. That's the argument I literally had with one of these unbiblical scholars who masquerade as biblical scholars in front of those who are too lazy to study to show themselves approved of God, and are brought up that you trust the pastor's interpretation above everything else.
@@matthewarnold5531you seriously believe anything good can come from alcohol?
@CandicejlCook biblically speaking, yes. Go read Psalm 104:15 to see what good can come from alcohol and why the writers of the Bible (God's word) wrote about the benefits of alcohol.
Also, try looking up in the bible where Paul speaks to Timothy about the way alcohol can be used medicinally.
Everything is a gift from God to be used correctly and responsibly. Even belladonna, a poison, is used by ophthalmologists to dilate pupils for examination and diagnosis of eye problems.
Etc etc etc.
Know your bible.
I, by the grace of God, have never drank alcohol in my entire life. Even as an unsaved teen in the 90s something in my mind told me not to take a sip. Even when all my friends were doing it. I knew it was wrong. Fast forward 25 years later and I still have not had any. God has kept me from it and I thank Him for that.
That's wonderful!
Put in a nutshell, abstain from the appearances of evil. In other words, if in doubt leave it out. Once again, thanks for the excellent teaching Tiff.
Everyone has seen all the pictures of how drugs leave people destroyed & suffering, but not the end result of alcohol to a human body. It's every bit as horrific as cancer. It causes prolonged suffering, it's very bloody & traumatic. EVERY hospital has a wing of liver patients every young person should see, the sight of a cirrhosis patient in the end stages is something you'll never forget. I walked through a trail of puddles of blood & big blood clots to get to my Dad the last time I took him to the hospital again. We spent 5 years nursing him after being told he was dying. A lifetime alcoholic, he died at 58, & would have died earlier, but we prayed & fought for him bc he wasn't ready to meet God. In the end, he was saved, and it was answer to decades of prayer & we were eternally grateful. But what a waste of his precious life, & how he, & our family, suffered so needlessly. It left 2 of my brothers with drinking problems too. I HATE alcohol with a passion, and I think those claiming " liberty" are liars, using an excuse to sin.
My father also lost his life to alcohol liver. He wasn't a alcoholic when i was a child. But certainly on his way. I married my husband who didn't drink. But became a alcoholic. And same with my children.
As a physician, I too have seen far too much trauma, damage, evil, and lostness....secondary to alcohol. This drink binds to the same GABA-a receptors as dose Xanax, Valium, Aprazolam, Barbiturates, etc... It is a DRUG.
An excess ov ebeything is bad, including alcohol and religion. Everything in moderation I say, but if you cant stick to only a moderate amount of alcohol, then blame yourself, not the alcohol. I have drunk alcohol only moderately all my life - you are flawed if you cannot do that, because you have given in to the devil. Alcohol has never been a problem for me because I have the willpower to know when I have had enough.
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Very good information Pastor Tiff ,alcohol is way out of control in this world , I drank when I was younger,, but not anymore, I love Jesus to much to waste my time on something that is harmful to your body ,our bodies are the Temple of God and should not be defiled by drinking alcohol
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I needed to hear your message today. Thank you.
Thank you so much for taking time to teach the undiluted Word of God. I am so blessed.
His verson of the lords word is warped. Jesus does not tell us that drinking is a sin. If you believe that then you should go to a mosque, not a church and you are a heretic.
I'm a Christian but sadly got into problems with alcohol😢I'm so ashamed
Keep praying beloved, Jesus will deliver you... don't give up. Our Father delivered me from alcohol cigarettes and other addictions... seek Jesus with all of your heart. He will break that addiction off you, have faith xxx
God bless you my brother 🙏 see u in glory
Thanks to the Lord, you are honest and not in denial...your doing well 🙏.
@@raymondraia1601 yea thanks for that.
This is so good and much needed.
Jesus’ first miracle was turning water to wine. And there’s a discussion at the wedding about how happy everyone was to be getting drunk from drinking food wine.
To say that God has never created alcohol is simply, and categorically, wrong.
Thank you for doing your studies for our benefit
Wow❤really wish all,to learn from this teaching ,very straight,encouraging and powerful,be Blessed
The volume of alcohol (porcentage ) is determined by the specific gravity of the juice from the grapes at the beginning of the fermentation process. In modern times depends of the sugar content and the type of yeast used for the fermentation process . Some are more tolerant to the volume of alcohol than others. That means that when the specific gravity drops below zero you will end up with a higher percentage of alcohol. During the old times nature took care of that (naturally fermented) I believe the percentage of alcohol was pretty high.
Cutting down wine to 20 to 1 defeats the purpose of sterilization due to the small content of alcohol in the mixture.
Thank you. I think people use the "it wasn't really wine" justification to try and explain why Christians should not drink at all. I agree that there are several passages in scripture warning against drunkenness, but I'm not sure there is Scripture prohibiting drinking wine. I think it's careless to try and equivocate the wine used in the old times.
My research seems to indicate that is unlikely that the yeast in a grapes skin, as compared to genetically 'improved' yeasts used today, caused a potent alcoholic content in Bible times....maybe 7-8% by volume, as this youtube piece suggests. Today's lowest alcoholic % content by volume is 13-14% up to 24%. Also, archeological information records many /most societies in Bible times always diluted the wine with water, from 3:1 up to 20:1 (Pliney).... which agrees with this gentelman's information.
This is such a great teaching!
Best explanation I've ever heard!
🙏 You are SOOOOO RIGHT !!!! About drinking 😢😞🙏 feeling ashamed what I taught my children 🙏
Great teaching. I had a discussion abt this last week.
I found this fascinating! Well done! I would ask, though, to please include a list of the source material (both biblical scriptures and secular, historical sources) you used to arrive at these conclusions, especially for the dilution ratios of wine to water. A few times you said it was too much information to get into for the video, but if the sources are made available, we can continue a deep dive into the material ourselves.
It’s extremely important that we can point to specific sources when presenting an argument, especially for Christians. Thank you!
There is no information that uses ancient sources to suggest the watering down wine. What we do find is ancient mesopotamians distilling alcoholic beverages to stronger levels, and the ancient israelites were told by God that they could drink both alcoholic wine and stronger alcoholic beverages after they had completed their Nazarite vow. Numbers 6.v20... this guy has no awareness of how alcohol is used to kill bacteria in percentage terms.
Jesus condoned drinking alcohol to cheer the heart as he changed water into the best wine. The flavour of wine does depend upon the alcoholic level - he's really struggling in eisegesis here as he's using Scripture incorrectly in order to justify his a priori belief against alcohol. God doesn't want people abusing his Scripture like this guy is doing sadly. He's using arguments from silence to suggest the wine was non alcoholic, not good Biblical hermeneutics.
I would suggest searching for the words: godofgreenhope wine. You'll find a Biblical analysis of alcohol in Scripture.
Thank you 🙏😊
Thank you for this teaching. GOD bless and protect you Pastor Tiff and your family 🙏🙏🙏
I struggle with this very thing! It can easily become an idol. Life can be almost based on whether you will be able to have wine or not. Satan lies and says “ oh you are missing out if you don’t…..”. I must believe God can and will do better!
If there was only a slim chance you'll lose salvation and Gods presence you need to get rid off alcohol.
Like Jesus said; "It's better to not drink alcohol and go to heaven than to drink it and go to hell".
I know that's not literally what God said, but you get the point I think :)
Not saying you can't drink alcohol necessarily, but if you struggle and if it's tempting you than it's way better to sacrifice it!!
@@BirdNatureView Jesus drank wine, get over it.
@@lil-al those words say plenty to me.
Psalms 104
14 He makes grass grow for the cattle, and plants for people to cultivate- bringing forth food from the earth:
15 wine that gladdens human hearts, oil to make their faces shine, and bread that sustains their hearts.
The Bible warns about drunkenness but alcohol in moderation seems fine.
I'm 62 years old and a devout Christian, thankyou Jesus.
My DR who is also a Pastor recommends 1 glass of red wine with evening meal.
I took his advice several years ago and have had no spiritual conviction.
@@marleymayfield2635 you must have not even listened to the teaching because if you had you would have be informed that modern day wine is nothing like the wine the Bible refers to. Take your glass of wine and water it down about 10 times and drink a glass of that and now you’re drinking “Biblical wine” or if you must have that slight amount of alcohol just drink kombucha from the store, at least it is full of probiotics and plus it has the small amount of alcohol that biblical wine has.
2-2.75% alcohol = common wine mentioned in the Bible. Listen to the whole teaching, Tiff taught that modern wine is nothing like what the Bible calls wine.
@@heapsofblessings I don't know where he came up with that. According to scholars, the alcohol content of wine during Biblical times was usually between 5-20%, which is enough to intoxicate.1 Wine in the Bible can refer to just simple grape juice or wine that does not exceed an alcoholic content of about 10%. The production capacity apparent from archaeological remains and the frequent biblical references to wine suggest that it was the principal alcoholic beverage of the ancient Israelites. The main difference between Roman and modern wines was likely their alcohol content, as both Greek and Roman wines likely had as high as 15% or 20% ABV, compared with 10-12% or so in most modern wines. The consumption of wine was often very different as well.2 A 2:1 or 3:1 ratio was not unusual, but even a 3:1 ratio would yield a drink of 3-5%, which is similar to an average American beer.
@@algernon_2023 it was 2-2.75% after dilution with water, he didn't "come up with it" - Tiff Shuttlesworth researched the claims he made extensively.
Amen. Loved this teaching 🙏🏽
Glory to God, man of God this is my first video but I am answered bcoz av been making study on these doctrines ,.thank u sir.
More anointing 🔥.
Thank you Brother Tiff
Thank you for the truth 😊
Thank YOU
Very enlightening great lesson😊
Very interesting, thank you tiff
That was a great teaching ! Thank you pastor Tiff🙏🏽🙏🏽 I’ll certainly share this video.
Amen! I pray that all Christian’s who are struggling with alcohol, or struggling with understanding this message, be healed and enlightened, in Jesus mighty name!
Amen so true . May God bless His Word
Could someone explain Matthew 11:19? "The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ But wisdom is proved right by her deeds.” Why did the Pharisees accuse the Lord of being a drunkard if wine was so diluted?
Verses 16-18 help establish context. Whether he ate one slice of bread or a whole loaf, they would accuse him of gluttony. Whether he had diluted or undiluted wine, they would accuse him of drunkenness. In the previous verse, "For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’ " In other words, they were grasping for any excuse to convict him and deny his legitimacy.
@@Nathaniel_PetersonWell answered. The accusers were haters of Jesus and God!
@@Nathaniel_Petersonamen🙏
Great Teaching.
Most people follow Jesus as HE turned water into wine!
I am guilty... though not abusing alcohol... i do have a jack daniels now and then... feel like this study as meant for my ears ... thank you very much!
You're welcome.
Why do many passovers include 4 glasses of wine? I’ve been to about 3 passovers and they drink a lot.
Amazing teaching.
If I go to a church and the pastor just recently said he & his wife drink wine & beer, I feel that I have to leave the church. Am I right?
Amazing teaching 🙏🙏
I believe we are going to see the fruit of so many prophetic teachers such as we see on you tube. I really believe that. Never in history have we have this available to us. God is working in marvelous ways concerning this. We are going to see awesome and great things ahead. We are going to see the kingdom of God prevail and take territory, turning the dry places into green pastures spiritually. We have never had this before in history and it is dynamic. It is powerful.
Thanks Tiff, I did not know any of this, Very interesting, Thanks for taking your time explaining…🕊
Great teaching 👍
Wine (yayin in Hebrew) is a gift from God to cheer the heart - psalm 104:15.
That same wine (yayin) can also cause drunkenness if abused.
That same wine (yayin) God states can be drunk, along with other stronger alcoholic drinks after the Nazarite vow has finished, Numbers 6:20.
As the ancient Mesopotamians enjoyed the distillation process back as far as 3500BCE, we can be sure that the Israelites were also enjoying distilled drinks. It's anti historical to say distillation was invented in the medieval period.
Shalom brother Shuttlesworth. Maranatha Lord Yeshua come. I love ❤ you LORD ❤️ Yeshua.
Thank you 😊
Notice outside church:- Make your worst enemy your best friend.
Notice outside same church one week later:- Drink is your worst enemy.
Praise the Lord I no longer even like alcohol🙏🏽🙏🏽
Amen
Praise the lord
(Second comment here…) everything you said makes so much sense!
Pastor, thank you for your clear and concise teaching.
Please tell me the name of the message to look up about wedding at Cana of Gallilee
coming soon
I’m 56 years old and I have never had even a sip of alcohol. I just don’t understand why people need or want alcohol as a drink. It’s not needed for social events, sports, holidays, parties, yet everyone thinks it is.
It's delicious and relaxing.
I also have never drank alcohol in my entire life. The smell alone makes me nauseous
@@kris78787
_"The smell alone makes me nauseous."_
Vodka doesn't have an odor.
@@twitherspoon8954 that’s not the only alcoholic drink though, I can’t stand the smell of alcohol
@@kris78787
_"I can’t stand the smell of alcohol."_
Alcohol made from which plants do you not like?
Agave--pulque (Mexico); tequila
2. Apple--cider
3. Barley--ale; porter; stout; kvass (Russia)
4. Corn--chicha (South America); whiskey; gin
5. Grapes--wine; brandy
6. Hops--ale; stout; weiss (Germany)
7. Millet--pombe (Africa)
8. Potato--vodka; aquavit (Scandinavia)
9. Rice--sake (Japan); oke (Hawaii)
10. Rye--kvass; whiskey
11. Sorghum--burukutu (Nigeria); kafir beer (South Africa)
12. Sugarcane--rum; oke
13. Wheat--weiss; vodka
14. Wormwood--absinthe
Thank you for your love ❤️❤️ in teaching us.god bless you
This is the first video I watch of yours and so far 15 minutes in I agree with all of what you are saying but it would be very useful if you can link references to all these numbers and statements you are making, so far the only reference I heard is 8:1 ratio in homers the odyssey.
Can I get the Bible verses to support these statements so I can make notes please?
I like this teacher. And what he stands for
I also have you on my Facebook thank you mr. you help me out a lot today 🙏 God bless you😊
Tiff Shuttlesworth. Very unusual name right.
Thanks for this teaching, Tiff. I haven't heard this truth preached or taught for over 40 years. When I was in my early 20's I read a book (can't remember author or title) but he said same thing you taught tonight and the little bit you said about the wine Jesus made-spot on! I've had discussions with pastors, brothers and sisters about how the wine Jesus made was nonalcoholic-sadly it fell on closed ears. Can't wait to watch the video you do on that. God continue to bless you, brother.
Magpie there is a book I have that I bought probably over 40 years ago called. Alcohol the Beloved Enemy and it was written by Jack Van Imp. I use to like him many years ago. but.......
The book of John in the Bible records Jesus, God the Son, making wine.
Naturally-occurring yeasts in grape juice will cause ferment, creating alcohol, if the juice is not pasteurised. Grapes will ferment on the vine naturally. So much so that almost all fruit juice (of any kind) made commercially has a tiny bit of alcohol in it.
Alcohol is sign God loves us and want us to be happy.
@@paulettelewis992 did Jack go back drinking or did you. 🤔
Some of you might want to try this at home. I liked keeping some frozen concentrate of orange juice and adding a small spoonful of it to a glass of ice water. I liked doing that with the orange, but when I tried that with grape juice, to me, it only made the water taste muddy. I didn't care for it at all. I realize we are all different. I'm just wondering what other people have experienced. If I did the small grape juice from concentrate in a large glass of water every day maybe I would get used to it. I wonder if they had orange trees over there in Israel.
I just looked it up. Israel does have a citrus industry today. Does anybody make wine out of orange juice? I imagine it would ferment, but I really don't know much of anything about wine. I used to home brew though.
Thank you so much for your teaching on wine.
If fermentation involved sin, why did Jesus turn water into wine at the wedding at Cana which is a fermented beverage? And it definitely was wine because the host of the wedding said, "Everyone serves the good wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then the poor wine. But you have kept the good wine until now."
I see no reply from the video producer, because they're incapable of giving a reasonable answer that doesn't disregard the facts that even ancient Mesopotamians were not only brewing strong drink, but also distilling it into high % alcoholic beverages back around 3500BCE
@@matthewarnold5531your missing the point. It is unholy to consume alcohol. The Bible is full of verses reflecting this. If you are a Jesus believer, Jesus warned us to remain sober.. peace and grace 🙏
As said in the video, that wine would have been diluted with water (three parts water to one part wine) giving an overall alcohol content of around 2 percent.
@shivli6088
Then Jesus lead people to sin, which is itself a sin. Therefore Jesus is not sinless and is not the Messiah.
Use your brain before you comment. God gave you one, use it correctly.
@@TacereM How about you PRAY for a brain, instead of making bizarre, inaccurate correlations to fit your finite understanding for everyone to see how foolish you are? There is a HUGE difference between drinking wine and DRUNKENESS. 1 Timmothy 5:23. The Holy Spirit gives us the gift of discernment which you clearly do not have. In all sincerity, pray for the Holy Spirit to indwell in you. The tribulation is going to be tough. May God have mercy on you. Good day.
I wrestled with alcohol but now I don't drink before sporting events.
Can you please give the versus in the Bible of where it states the wine was diluted? Thank you.
You are missing the point. Open your heart and spiritual ears, humility and a willingness to be holy. Jesus said stay sober. Peace and grace 🙏.
I used to be a serious drinker for over 50 years but gave it up not for spiritual reasons but because I had enough. I haven't drank in about 5 years and have no intentions of drinking again. In regards to those recent studies claiming that just looking at a glass of wine will kill you,I don't pay any attention to them. One day they will come out with a study not to eat eggs, and just about every food you put in your mouth. Then in a month or two they come up with new study saying it's ok to eat those things the other study says not to eat.
This topic came up in my feeds and found the history fascinating. What you say is true. During covid i decided to eat healthier, not only to lose weight but to build my immune system. During my research and listening to other doctors speak on the subject it is true that alcohol has no benefits to health. The small amount of reversatrol in red wine is immediately negated by the alcohol having to be processed by your liver. Alcohol has no benefits for us in today’s society only negatives
If it was so diluted why does it say in Psalms: “ Wine to gladden man’s heart?” Seems like it was/ is a gift… how could it gladden the heart if it was so diluted? You’d have to drink quite a bit to become glad then
Thank you Tiff. I really appreciate your teaching and I regularly listen to them. I have a question on this subject. When Jesus turned water in to wine in a wedding (feast), wasn't that for more recreational purposes (than purification of water)? This is the only thought I am struggling with. I do take a glass of wine or beer occasionally. Never got drunk ever in my life. My father did the same. Never saw him drunk ever either.
Is it then, from a more health perspective that we should not even touch alcohol? Not necessarily because having an occasional glass of wine is dishonouring God?
I love your teachings and it helped me to understand some beautiful truths in the bible.
I can stop tomorrow because I am not addicted to wine or beer. But I still have these questions though.
Thank you!
Jesus drank alcohol, get over it.
Amen!
Thank you Sir for boldly advocating 'Abstinance'
Thank you so much for this teaching. I have a better understanding of Biblical wine. Thank you again 🙏
Tiff, can you please give us scriptures that say that they diluted wine and strong drink? I have heard this before but I've never found any Scripture saying so. I trust your teaching so I'm hoping that you can expand on this biblically.
I think it's in the research of biblical times culture. If one were to be learned on biblical times cultures and practices, the bible is easier to understand. I have found this to be true in my research. I have 2 shelves on the cultures of the days before, during and after Jesus. Makes studying interesting, easier and fun.
I am also looking for the verse in Revelation Pastor Tiff mentioned about drunkards cannot enter heaven. I'm taking notes and would appreciate the Bible verse. Thank you.
Just found two verses.. 1 Cor.6:10 and Gal 5:21.
@@yulychan6648 1st Corinthians chapter 10
@@yulychan6648
1 CORINTHIANS 6:10
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
I never let it touch my lips in 44 yrs😊
Thankyou brother Tiff for speaking the truth……..as you always do! May you and your ministry of Lost Lamb prosper ❤️🔥❤️🔥
The book of John in the Bible records Jesus, God the Son, making wine.
Naturally-occurring yeasts in grape juice will cause ferment, creating alcohol, if the juice is not pasteurised. Grapes will ferment on the vine naturally. So much so that almost all fruit juice (of any kind) made commercially has a tiny bit of alcohol in it.
Alcohol is sign God loves us and want us to be happy.
I married a man who never drank, not even as a teenager. We never had any form of alcohol in our home and raised our children not to drink (as I was raised). For some reason, after around 25 years of marriage (and I will tell you our marriage was a good one), I found out he’d been drinking hard liquor bc I discovered him so messed up during times of a family crisis when he was needed (such as in the middle of the night when he thought no one would know, or when I was suppose to be at work but would come home early unexpectedly, etc. ). Our marriage has deteriorated along with his health at an exasperating rate for the past 10+ years. For so long I could not figure out what in the world was going on with us! Or what it was going on with his health bc he’d always looked so much younger than his age, people unable to believe his age, but now he has literally aged and looks at least 10-15 years older than his age. I am certain all this is because of alcohol. I used to think it was ok to drink a glass of wine or a margarita when we went out to dinner occasionally. I’ve been a Christian many years, but I’d told myself that occasional social drinking was on. But now, I feel very differently. I admit , it didn’t really feel “wrong” for me to drink this occasionally, but then I began to see that nothing good ever comes from drinking alcohol! It’s not a good influence for anyone. It does nothing good for my body. It altars my thinking ability and actions. And, now that I see what it has done to my husband, his health, and my 42 year marriage that I thought should’ve been much more peaceful and happy. But instead we have been in the brink of divorce a few times. And I’m not sure we’re out of the woods yet, or ever will be as long as he continues choosing this alcohol. Please pray for him. He is a ch
He is a Christian, but this is his struggle and I know it is a spiritual warfare thing. Satan knew just when and where to set a trap for him (just as he knows this about every single one of us bc he’s been studying us human beings for millennia). And sadly, my husband got trapped in the enemy’s snare and it has destroyed sooooo much!! I ask for prayers from anyone enduring to read this king post. Thank you Tiff for this reaching! May God bless you. (I had to “reply” to finish this post bc the video ran out before I originally was able to finish☺️.)
Praise the Lord🙏 for preaching the Truth 🙌🏻 so sorry to read that many won’t except what is truth in the righteousness of God🙌🏻
You know that Jesus is a fictional character, right?
@@twitherspoon8954 No He's not! Jesus of Nazareth lived and died of crucifixion. All non christian atheists history scholars even agree.
It's quite stupid actually if you think otherwise. God bless!
Pastor Tiff how can any professing follower of Jesus if they really read and study the word of God should never ever touch alcohol period. Never entertain the idea that it is ok to drink ! Never in the name of Jesus ! Amen 🙏
Hello 👋 blessings to all 🙏 I'M one of those Christians you mentioned, since I started going to a Christian church, I stopped drinking and doing drugs, also being a provocative woman, I'm very passionate about wanting to learn and give my life to Jesus Christ mighty Lord and savior 🙏 I no longer go to the church I was going to I fear the pastor that was in charge of the church, did not have the holy Spirit in him 😢 didn't want to give bible studies, among other things that a true pastor's should teach, he just refused to teach me and other's The truth, which is the WORD'S of God 🙏 I have so much to say, I have no space on your page, I need help desperately I know I need Jesus Christ mighty Lord in my life and prayers like chain prayer's 🙏
I was always taught it was grape juice. And my grandmother used white liquor and rock candy to make a cough syrup.
Mine did too. I sure miss her recipe it would cut straight through any congestion and set you right back up on your feet she give all us grandkids a big tablespoon in the winter at the first sign of a cough or sniffles lol we always had a nap afterwards 😅 but only if we were 6 yrs old and up lol. God bless Tiff he's a true soldier of God.
Who was the eagle on the story of Noah that came down before the fording
I totally agree with you because I’m not a drinker. My question is what did Noah drank that got him so
drunk that he passed out in front of his children.
I’m still going to have my before dinner drink of Shiraz….it is not a Salvation issue 🥰🙏🏼🍷
Romans 14:21 It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak. Something to think about when you indulge in alcohol beverages. As someone that has struggled with alcohol and I might hear or see another believer that indulges and I haven’t developed the capacity to avoid alcohol lest I stumble myself, which I have. This is particularly true with new believers. I myself choose to abstain from all forms of alcohol based on this very verse from Romans. I’ve witnessed on many occasions the damage alcohol causes, either suicide or attempted suicide in my own family. Something to consider is how your actions may impact others.
@@Rm0544 So for your obese brothers and sisters you'll do a lifelong fast?
Part of the reason they drank so much wine was because in many regions the water wasn't good to drink. So saying they diluted the wine with water just doesn't make sense! According to what you are saying someone would have to drink about a gallon of wine to even have a little buzz much less be drunk 😳 And as we know many did get drunk.
Is cancer an issue with drinking ? I recently had a Mastectomy, CAUSE, oestrogen, naturally occurring in women’s bodies.
Now I take Hormone Blockers . 🙏🏼🤗
The party members said of the wine jesus made that it was the good stuff that normally is given at the beginning of the party,not the cheap stuff given at the end.
If its all grape juice, what the distinction?
God gave wine to gladden the hearts of men
Proverbs 31:4-7 - It is not for kings, Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, not for rulers to crave beer, lest they drink and forget what has been decreed, and deprive all the oppressed of their rights. Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in anguish! Let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.
What about the conception of Moab and Ben-Ammi, founders of two of the major tribes of Israel? They were conceived when their father, Lot, was drunk.
I never like the taste of wine, but I only take red wine occasionally for my stomach. I don’t go overboard I take one small glass after eating steak and it’ soothes my stomach. I never got drunk in my entire life and I never will because I’m not wine is not my weakness the Bible specifically says drunkenness is a sin. If you’re the type that gets drunk, stay away from wine if you’re the type that is a weak to alcohol stay away from it. But everything in moderation is fine. There’s nothing wrong with eating
Or having a glass of wine. If Jesus was so against wine he would have not have them preserve it and he told them to preserve it and put it in new bottles. Jesus made grapes and he knew the fermentation of a grape wine has benefits to it with anything you can make it a sin you can go overboard on eating or drinking and then you’re sitting against yourself. Also, it’s OK if you’ve never drink wine or beer if you feel that it’s a stumbling block to someone else, don’t drink a glass of wine in front of them. Yes, wine can make you drunk that’s only if you keep drinking it and it becomes a obsession but if you have control and God and you take a little for your stomach sake, it won’t hurt you it will help, but I respect the pastor and his right to do what is right for him and his children
I agree!
In addition, Some christians smoke and curse, Its seems as christians we should be separated from the worldly behaviors, we are not perfect,but we want to be more like our father God, he never do these behaviors.
What about Jesus turning water into Wine? Or are we just gonna ignore that fact?
Scource: John 2:1-11
Jesus turned water into wine, an alcoholic drink, that he gave to others. Just want to point that out
Maybe watch the video first before commenting. The wine they drank back then was diluted with water and had a very low alcohol percentage. He talks about that even the Greeks said it was barbaric to drink wine without it being diluted with water. He also talks about the reason why people drank wine back then, most of the water was bacteria ridden, that being the case putting wine in the water would kill bacteria making the wine safe to drink. He knows that Jesus turned water into wine, he is just stating the differences between modern alcohol which is mostly used for intoxication, and ancient wines/beers that were used for making water safe to drink. To be fair this guys take on Bibical scripture and alcohol is a little extreme, in the bible it says not to get intoxicated/drunk and never said to not drink any alcohol ever. In my opinion there's nothing wrong with drinking within moderation.
Jesus turned water to wine because water was poisonous to drink, and wine was made from grapes and safe. It was still a sin to drink to the point of being inebriated.
If we question it at all, then why would we do it? Would we want to take even “a fraction” of a chance of opening the smallest crack to something that could separate us from God for all eternity. It’s just not worth it.
AMEN