Love the back-pedal hex key hack. Doesn't work on a Bosch though, but you could probably use a cable-tie velcro on those..... either way, if you ride a bike just get a collapsible stand for $50. A Scorpion Stand works too if you have Shimano and takes up very little space .
If you thoroughly clean and degrease your chain, you should be able to inspect the links and see if there's any damage there. Some oils can be quite sticky and attract dirt and grime, but as long as it hasn't caused any damage to the components of the chain, simply cleaning, degreasing and then lubing your chain will do the trick.
I use my air compressor set at just 50 psi to dry off the chain after degreasing and rinsing it before lubing, and also my cassette as it’s SRAM one so no gaps to blow out the grease. I also use it to blow away the excess water around the motor and around the connectors being careful not to use it around lubed parts or where it can just push the muck further into the bike. What does everyone think good or bad idea?
thnx for the tips, just got my canyon neuron on, and was looking how to use backpedal for lubing the chain, but have a question on drivetrains for emtb, which one is considered the most durable one, is the xt cassette more durable? or less durable?
It is interesting. External batteries are usually ugly, but I really like what that Canyon looks like too.... Sure I like to look at my internal battery bike, but once you are on it, I don't see my Haibike's ugly external battery and it takes 2 seconds to swap, compared to my Pivot's stupid 7 screw mount.
By "top" of the chain, do you mean the outside? As long as the rollers get lubed, I don't see how it would matter whether you apply the lube to the top or bottom because it will run down and coat every part of the inside, especially if you're turning the cranks while doing so.
What should you do if you have it dry-lubed and on the day you want/must ride it rains? Can you apply the wet lube directly or you need to clean everything again, rinse and repeat?
that is also a reason I love having an e-bike with a throttel and hub motor but I guess if you carry and extra link and a chain tool your okay either way
Chain wax suspended in solvent still does not seem to have caught on? I have been applying Rock and Roll blue on my turbo levo from new and listen to this. After 1 year of riding every couple of days - the chain still measures as new. No wear or 'stretch' ZERO ! I am an engineer... and am amazed. The Specialised shop doing the one year checks/service were surprised. No dregreasing, just apply the liquid and wipe off, about once a month. I dont understand why long term tests have not been done to make this common knowledge. The wax must float inside the links with the solvent carrier when it is applyed and stay in there effectively. I did not even bother to remove the oil off the chain when new, just dosed it with the R and R blue. Best part is the chain is clean! I know this sounds like and advertisement but I am not affiliated with R and R at all. Just wanted to pass on my findings so far. Cliff
@@TheNordog I think it originates in the US or Australia. But here in NZ all the lubes are pricey anyway so Rock and Roll is more common. I asked a hire company that services a fleet of bikes every day doing the Otago rail trail, what lube is best and he said R&R. Thats what got me started on it. Cliff
Aren't rollers suport to spin? Then how would lubing the inside/outside count? Why would I want to lube the actual gears? My understanding is that the rollers contact the teeth & inter-teeth area and they pivot around the inside pin where the lube should be... Myself I apply on the outside, pedal turn the chain a bunch of full rotations then do a quick wipe with a rag to get the excess that did not get pulled inside the rollers...
What you want is the parts that have friction to one another to be lubed. Then you want to keep the dirt out and the lube in. Which is why motorbike chains have seals.. X vs O for example. And why when I lube my chain I like to take it off and soak it so the oil has time to get in behind the seals.. And then I just give it a quick spray over now and again in between soaks to keep the rust of, roller faces oiled. That's also what I've gone back to on my push bikes too.
My Specialized Levo 9/2019 eats chains. My first chain, the original, was 75% after 750 km. I have replaced this for a Shimano 901 XTR chain this was 75% after 1250 km. I have now mounted my third chain, but now the front sprocket is apparently worn, because the chain does not release well under tension. I lubricate my chain every ride and degrease every third ride. I use special PTFE oil from Shimano dry weather. I always ride in dry conditions and have climbed about 60.000 altitude meters during 2000 km. Are there other people with the same issue? Before this I had 2 x a Cube bike with Bosch engine and here the wear was about 500 km better!!!!!
Just checking you saw this post Joop. Chain wax suspended in solvent still does not seem to have caught on? I have been applying Rock and Roll blue on my Turbo levo from new and listen to this. After 1 year of riding every couple of days - the chain still measures as new. No wear or 'stretch' ZERO ! I am an engineer... and am amazed. The Specialised shop doing the one year checks/service were surprised. No dregreasing, just apply the liquid and wipe off, about once a month. I dont understand why long term tests have not been done to make this common knowledge. The wax must float inside the links with the solvent carrier when it is applyed and stay in there effectively. I did not even bother to remove the oil off the chain when new, just dosed it with the R and R blue. Best part is the chain is clean! I know this sounds like and advertisement but I am not affiliated with R and R at all. Just wanted to pass on my findings so far. Cliff Show less
Or some kerosene (not much) on a rag; hold the rag tight around the chain, and run the chain through it. I use this method for cleaning; it's quick, effective and I do it more often.
Thank you, very useful. With the Brexovid, the lockdowns and the CycleToWork scheme offered in the UK, lots of us got their first eBike. It is like relearning how to ride a bicycle again! 😊
The rollers job is to roll, so why do you insist on lubing the inside of the chain? Using an Allen key to pedal backwards works ok, but then there's a lot of motor drag on the Turbo Levo and you easily get chain hop and can't shift. I use a stand that only lifts the back wheel a few inches off the ground and pedal forward. After cleaning the chain with a brush and rag I apply a good dose of Finish Line Dry lube on top of the chain while shifting through all the gears so the cassette gets lubed as well. After about 5 minutes or so it's dry and I then apply a light dose of Squirt wax lube and let it dry overnight. My chain stays really clean even in dusty conditions. I wash the dust off with a plain water hose at a gas station on the way home, so it's completely dry before I lube it again. In the wet and winter weather I use wet lube of course, but I lube the top of the roller just the same. I easily get 5-6000 kms on a chain and change the whole drive train when the sprocket teeth start to hook and suck the chain. I clean and lube the chain after every ride, even if it's only 20kms. The biggest cause of short chain life? I see a lot of guys busting chains because they don't back off the power enough when shifting.
@@TheWebstaff clean chain well first i boiled mine in soap or could you petrol , got paraffin wax from amazon boil for 10 mins in a old pan , hang up to dry , chain will be stiff but frees up , put back on bike
@@TheWebstaff I commute in really dirty, wet, sandy roads and this winter, cleaning/lubing my chain was turning into a part time job. I switched to parafin wax/oil and it's brilliant! I have a kmc x series ept chain with quick link so it's easy to take off. I ride about 250km a week and lube the chain on the weekend and once during the week. I pull the chain off, put it in a pot and rinse it off with boiling water. I keep a slow cooker with wax in it all the time so i plug that in and it's melted in about an hour and while it's warming up, i hang the chain to dry. When the wax is melted, i put the chain in for about 15 mins then take it out and hang it to cool. Other than the heating up, it's about 10 mins of my time and you never get dirty/greasy. You can also put ptfe (teflon) in the was for better lubrication. You can also melt some of the wax into xylene or alcohol and put that in a squirt bottle in case you need some additional lube while out.
I love watching your show but I've become deeply concerned about your flagrant promotion of your supporting suppliers. I understand that you have to make a living, but let's try to get back to objective reporting please.
Howie Rosen That‘s why they don‘t do reviews. They always been transparent about their sponsors. Yeah it‘s a bit annoying sometimes, but without making the sponsors happy we would not only get rid of the annoying (part of the) videos but the channel alltogether. So yeah i donget annoyed as well, but I consider it to be a necessity to get the good bits.
Muc off had perfect product for chain- mucoff94 WITF PTFE but they resign from ptfe (they promo as a no ptfe is environment friendly- what a bullshit) and now you have to buy special oil to lube chain. Special oil is very sticky for grime soo you have to buy degreaser. In that way muc off sale 3 product instead of 1. Solvation? Gt85😁
@@davidstent757 yeah but it's still so much easier to just pull the chain. It's also a pretty shitty hack, at least on Shimano motors since the bit doesn't sit deep enough to not fall out once in a while, making the whole process moot.
OMG The chain ring hack, changed my life!
Thanks x
Love the back-pedal hex key hack. Doesn't work on a Bosch though, but you could probably use a cable-tie velcro on those..... either way, if you ride a bike just get a collapsible stand for $50. A Scorpion Stand works too if you have Shimano and takes up very little space .
Great vid! Was always lubing from the top! Now I know better :)
Please do a review/test of the squirt-lube wax.
Riding approximately once a week, how often should I lube my chain?
Well explained Chris.
Ty for tips. I might of damage my new chain. I suspected it was dry and only had CLP gun oil to use. Now a type of gritty grim is seen.
If you thoroughly clean and degrease your chain, you should be able to inspect the links and see if there's any damage there. Some oils can be quite sticky and attract dirt and grime, but as long as it hasn't caused any damage to the components of the chain, simply cleaning, degreasing and then lubing your chain will do the trick.
@@embn thank you so much
7:07 next how to video: “run a chain around that lubed chain” 🤪
I use my air compressor set at just 50 psi to dry off the chain after degreasing and rinsing it before lubing, and also my cassette as it’s SRAM one so no gaps to blow out the grease. I also use it to blow away the excess water around the motor and around the connectors being careful not to use it around lubed parts or where it can just push the muck further into the bike. What does everyone think good or bad idea?
thnx for the tips, just got my canyon neuron on, and was looking how to use backpedal for lubing the chain, but have a question on drivetrains for emtb, which one is considered the most durable one, is the xt cassette more durable? or less durable?
Very good Chris but my eBike does not have that type of front chainring
Do you need to clean a brand new bike/chain before applying muc off?
I want this ebike canyon he is so beautiful ! 😍
It is interesting. External batteries are usually ugly, but I really like what that Canyon looks like too....
Sure I like to look at my internal battery bike, but once you are on it, I don't see my Haibike's ugly external battery and it takes 2 seconds to swap, compared to my Pivot's stupid 7 screw mount.
By "top" of the chain, do you mean the outside? As long as the rollers get lubed, I don't see how it would matter whether you apply the lube to the top or bottom because it will run down and coat every part of the inside, especially if you're turning the cranks while doing so.
What should you do if you have it dry-lubed and on the day you want/must ride it rains? Can you apply the wet lube directly or you need to clean everything again, rinse and repeat?
A new chain is cheap vs that long walk back..
that is also a reason I love having an e-bike with a throttel and hub motor but I guess if you carry and extra link and a chain tool your okay either way
What cassette brush is best?
Chain wax suspended in solvent still does not seem to have caught on?
I have been applying Rock and Roll blue on my turbo levo from new and listen to this. After 1 year of riding every couple of days - the chain still measures as new. No wear or 'stretch' ZERO ! I am an engineer... and am amazed. The Specialised shop doing the one year checks/service were surprised. No dregreasing, just apply the liquid and wipe off, about once a month. I dont understand why long term tests have not been done to make this common knowledge. The wax must float inside the links with the solvent carrier when it is applyed and stay in there effectively. I did not even bother to remove the oil off the chain when new, just dosed it with the R and R blue. Best part is the chain is clean! I know this sounds like and advertisement but I am not affiliated with R and R at all. Just wanted to pass on my findings so far. Cliff
That is very costly here in the UK, so a no here.
@@TheNordog I think it originates in the US or Australia. But here in NZ all the lubes are pricey anyway so Rock and Roll is more common. I asked a hire company that services a fleet of bikes every day doing the Otago rail trail, what lube is best and he said R&R. Thats what got me started on it. Cliff
@@TheNordog really?? Its Readily available in uk, not too expensive, ive been using it for over 10 years here in uk on my bikes.? Great stuff
Hey guys, Can we see a video on Waxing a bikle chain with Parafin wax and if it's worth it on an EMTB ! Thanks
Is zefal dry lube chain suitable for fiido d2s ebike?
Aren't rollers suport to spin? Then how would lubing the inside/outside count? Why would I want to lube the actual gears? My understanding is that the rollers contact the teeth & inter-teeth area and they pivot around the inside pin where the lube should be... Myself I apply on the outside, pedal turn the chain a bunch of full rotations then do a quick wipe with a rag to get the excess that did not get pulled inside the rollers...
What you want is the parts that have friction to one another to be lubed.
Then you want to keep the dirt out and the lube in.
Which is why motorbike chains have seals.. X vs O for example.
And why when I lube my chain I like to take it off and soak it so the oil has time to get in behind the seals..
And then I just give it a quick spray over now and again in between soaks to keep the rust of, roller faces oiled.
That's also what I've gone back to on my push bikes too.
Yep, I agree with you there. Top or bottom shouldn't matter, the lube will coat the whole roller by itself
My Specialized Levo 9/2019 eats chains. My first chain, the original, was 75% after 750 km. I have replaced this for a Shimano 901 XTR chain this was 75% after 1250 km. I have now mounted my third chain, but now the front sprocket is apparently worn, because the chain does not release well under tension. I lubricate my chain every ride and degrease every third ride. I use special PTFE oil from Shimano dry weather. I always ride in dry conditions and have climbed about 60.000 altitude meters during 2000 km. Are there other people with the same issue? Before this I had 2 x a Cube bike with Bosch engine and here the wear was about 500 km better!!!!!
Just checking you saw this post Joop. Chain wax suspended in solvent still does not seem to have caught on?
I have been applying Rock and Roll blue on my Turbo levo from new and listen to this. After 1 year of riding every couple of days - the chain still measures as new. No wear or 'stretch' ZERO ! I am an engineer... and am amazed. The Specialised shop doing the one year checks/service were surprised. No dregreasing, just apply the liquid and wipe off, about once a month. I dont understand why long term tests have not been done to make this common knowledge. The wax must float inside the links with the solvent carrier when it is applyed and stay in there effectively. I did not even bother to remove the oil off the chain when new, just dosed it with the R and R blue. Best part is the chain is clean! I know this sounds like and advertisement but I am not affiliated with R and R at all. Just wanted to pass on my findings so far. Cliff
Show less
What lube???chain oil is a thing in the past.chain waxing is the only method that i use
Good info, thank you. I’m a bottom guy :)
I use thick steam oil on my 1000w chain drive.
Somebody got new sponsors. Wonder what happened to WD40?
Automotive brake cleaner works wonders for cleaning too
Or some kerosene (not much) on a rag; hold the rag tight around the chain, and run the chain through it. I use this method for cleaning; it's quick, effective and I do it more often.
Can and should you turn your chain over ??
Thank you, very useful. With the Brexovid, the lockdowns and the CycleToWork scheme offered in the UK, lots of us got their first eBike. It is like relearning how to ride a bicycle again! 😊
Alen key trick dont work for a 2022 turbo levo
The rollers job is to roll, so why do you insist on lubing the inside of the chain? Using an Allen key to pedal backwards works ok, but then there's a lot of motor drag on the Turbo Levo and you easily get chain hop and can't shift. I use a stand that only lifts the back wheel a few inches off the ground and pedal forward. After cleaning the chain with a brush and rag I apply a good dose of Finish Line Dry lube on top of the chain while shifting through all the gears so the cassette gets lubed as well. After about 5 minutes or so it's dry and I then apply a light dose of Squirt wax lube and let it dry overnight. My chain stays really clean even in dusty conditions. I wash the dust off with a plain water hose at a gas station on the way home, so it's completely dry before I lube it again. In the wet and winter weather I use wet lube of course, but I lube the top of the roller just the same. I easily get 5-6000 kms on a chain and change the whole drive train when the sprocket teeth start to hook and suck the chain. I clean and lube the chain after every ride, even if it's only 20kms. The biggest cause of short chain life? I see a lot of guys busting chains because they don't back off the power enough when shifting.
I like that is a fun bike
started boiling mine with paraffin wax stays cleaner longer .
Whats that like, I used to just soak mine in oil but someone else mentioned this and I really like the idea of it over winter..
@@TheWebstaff clean chain well first i boiled mine in soap or could you petrol , got paraffin wax from amazon boil for 10 mins in a old pan , hang up to dry , chain will be stiff but frees up , put back on bike
@@TheWebstaff I commute in really dirty, wet, sandy roads and this winter, cleaning/lubing my chain was turning into a part time job. I switched to parafin wax/oil and it's brilliant! I have a kmc x series ept chain with quick link so it's easy to take off. I ride about 250km a week and lube the chain on the weekend and once during the week. I pull the chain off, put it in a pot and rinse it off with boiling water. I keep a slow cooker with wax in it all the time so i plug that in and it's melted in about an hour and while it's warming up, i hang the chain to dry. When the wax is melted, i put the chain in for about 15 mins then take it out and hang it to cool. Other than the heating up, it's about 10 mins of my time and you never get dirty/greasy. You can also put ptfe (teflon) in the was for better lubrication. You can also melt some of the wax into xylene or alcohol and put that in a squirt bottle in case you need some additional lube while out.
I want this ebike Canyon he is so beautiful!
This is an old video right..
Hahaha what is the point of the "special ebike" lube? I hope it is massively marked up so the idiots are overpaying as much as possible... :D
I love watching your show but I've become deeply concerned about your flagrant promotion of your supporting suppliers. I understand that you have to make a living, but let's try to get back to objective reporting please.
Howie Rosen That‘s why they don‘t do reviews. They always been transparent about their sponsors. Yeah it‘s a bit annoying sometimes, but without making the sponsors happy we would not only get rid of the annoying (part of the) videos but the channel alltogether. So yeah i donget annoyed as well, but I consider it to be a necessity to get the good bits.
Just insert product of choice in place of muck off.. whats the issue? ;)
Muc off had perfect product for chain- mucoff94 WITF PTFE but they resign from ptfe (they promo as a no ptfe is environment friendly- what a bullshit) and now you have to buy special oil to lube chain. Special oil is very sticky for grime soo you have to buy degreaser. In that way muc off sale 3 product instead of 1. Solvation? Gt85😁
I've also started using GT85 again.. nothing is better for whipping on after washing your bike after a nice wet dirty gritty winter ride IMHO.
How you lube your ebike chain? Exactly like you non ebike chain except you have to pull the chain. There. Done. Took 5 seconds to explain.
5:35 shows you the hack to back peddle rather than pull the chain 🙂
@@davidstent757 yeah but it's still so much easier to just pull the chain. It's also a pretty shitty hack, at least on Shimano motors since the bit doesn't sit deep enough to not fall out once in a while, making the whole process moot.
Looks like a bunch of botique bicycle lubricants and needless accessories...