Benchmade: new 710 Axis Lock Springs measured to see how will the Flat Omega Spring perform?
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2024
- This is the nerdiest video that I have published to date! I am measuring the spring coefficient differences between the original, omega spring and the new flat omega spring. I am taking a look at their stiffness and toughness to predict the expected performance.
Additionally, I’m looking at some of the design misses that are common to most Benchmade knives. Again!
#edc #sharp #benchmade #710 
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I appreciate your engineering and machinist objectivity when you evaluate these products for functionality, durability, quality, etc. No one else even comes close! It is documented, and usually data driven. Thanks for that. When you talk about aesthetics, however, (although I often agree with you), it's fun, but there is no right or wrong. I enjoy your site a lot!
Thanks!
Thanks for doing this. Love the reviews.
It's about time they fixed that spring issue! They been breaking for over a decade. I needed replacements on almost all my axis lock benchmades.
Thank you for this. I hope we see more of the new springs.
Not sure how long it will take them to re-tool. Plus it remains to be seen how they perform in the long run
Thank you for showing the differences with the New Omega Springs for the New Benchmade Folders. That spring does look a lot stronger. I've broken the old Omega Springs in my SOCP 391BK, twice... :-) I purchased more Springs on eBay; most likely Chinese Aftermarket Springs, for $10 for eight Springs. I installed them and Lubed them with Lithium based Gun Grease. I never had anymore issues. The reason why I think I was breaking the Springs is because I wasn't using two fingers on the Axis-Lock to open and disengage the Blade. Great Video! :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
na, use one finger without fear.
I'm definitely calling Benchmade for that mini Adams clip. That thing looks so good on the new 710. Mine just got jealous
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for subscribing!
Man, I like the changes you made
Thanks!
Your Mini Adamas looks so sad to me now with that tiny pocket clip--the Seven | Ten on the other hand looks great! 🤩 Keep up the good work 💪
It is a pleasure to watch your video and this one specially is for me because I like BM710 but do not like cheap pocket clips and screws for one time unscrew
Owned close to a 100 benchmade knives over the years.. never had one break😊
Thanks for the video and being objective. Definitely won’t be getting this unless it’s gifted to me or I find it in the trash. Benchmade could be the best knife brand by far yet the choose not to. It’s sad to see.
I like the basic stone wash pocket clip best. I don’t feel it needs to match the blade finish. I like how the basic version will sort of disappear to the knife, and I like how it looks when it wears. I’d be interested if benchmade makes a 3” blade version of the 710 as well.
I've had to send a bailout & Osborne 940 back to Benchmade for new omega springs while my Ritter Hogues with way more milage still feel perfect. I have a couple kizer & cjrb with similar axis lock style locking system but I've hardly carried those BUT I will say the tension necessary to operate those locks are MUCH stronger and take more strength to operate which actually feels pretty good in hand.
When it comes to factory edges, the last two Benchmade that I've purchased both came with very lacking, toothy edges. Both my freek and mini freek edges were very disappointing while all 5 of my Ritter Hogues came with practically a mirrors edge.
love these types of videos hope you can bump the quality of your camera
Just curious if you have tested out any shirogorov knives I been looking into getting one but no one has any use videos of them
I will not be interested in testing a Shiro or even buying one. I watched 3 very long Russian-language videos in which the owner gave a factory tour and he convinced me that it is not as custom of a knife as they prop it out to be. Nor is there anything in its performance that would make it more appealing to me. For the price, there are much better US-made and South African knives. I know, Metal_complex keeps the buzz up but it’s because he dumped a load of money into his Shiro collection.
The clip change looks great. Benchmade definitely could have done better at that price point.
Well I appreciate the nerdy videos. Know I'm not the norm but there are more than a few that do. I can tell you really are a fan of Benchmade as you criticize the things they could improve on. If you care about something you want to improve it. If it wasn't so costly I would get one of those.
I like that they're experimenting with the durability of the springs. Hopefully this won't be a gold class exclusive feature.
Also i wish benchmade would make bigger Linerless knives (like the freek) with these new springs.
Perhaps they will, but I think they will, who knows? The new Water line Adira has old style springs.
@@CuttingBoardRx Thanks for the suggestion, I don't know why I've never heard of this model. Its even better for the tropical coast i live in. The only way it could be better is if it had milled g10 scales.
Can you compare the BM axis lock to the axis lock on a Ganzo 729? I adore my 729 and its lockup is like a tank.
I don’t own a Ganzo, but having taken many a cross bar lock apart these are usually pretty similar. Looking at the pics on Amazon, it has the regular omega springs
and $600 cheaper
@@luisnouel4268 yep 😂😂
Do you think this Axis Lock spring configuration is the best yet, the Anthem’s, or perhaps another design? I’d hypothesize that coil springs, even with smaller cross-sections, might handle more cycles before fatigue failure-but I’m no engineer.
Thanks for the video, this is the first look at the new springs I’ve seen.
I actually don’t think the coil springs are great for a folder as they can accumulate moisture or, if oiled, dust and sand. The impinged flat omega springs on the new 710 is the way of the future because
I really think take a que from kizer with their clutch lock it's Alot better and the drop bear I bought gave me extra springs idk if I'll use them though
I've never had an omega spring break so I don't think it's a huge issue but I am glad to see Benchmade innovating with a potentially better design. That FDE clip did look great on the 710. I wish all of their knives had SelectEdge. The edge on my Taggedout is excellent. I actually slightly prefer the buttonhead screws but flat screws are fine too.
This happens surprisingly a lot with use of the knife.
Maybe in another 25 years we'll get actually sharp factory edges 😈
Will the mini adamas get the new omega springs?
No idea, but why would you think so?
@CutBladeRx It's not what I think. It's just that I want the newest lock.
It is my belief that the popularity of knives has peaked and is now on a slight downward slide. Or possibly due to the increase in Chinese and other world manufacturing of knives the market is reaching a saturation point. Popular knife manufacturers rode the wave and now that they are selling fewer, (my opinion), are raising prices both due to inflation and to keep profit at the same or higher levels. In the scheme of things owning knives costing hundreds of dollars is a luxury and inflation certainly pinches the knife budget of many people. I’ve noticed the increasing emphasis of knife reviewers on RUclips toward budget knives. So, paying the “butterfly tax” doesn’t appeal so much. I appreciate your interesting and different content. Thanks for pointing out the flat omega spring and specifics.
You are right about market saturation. The Chinese can now do axis locks and “drop shutty” action on a $20 knife…
@Daniel_Carson_VII true but the difference between a $20-$40 and $80-$150 knives from China is in the steel and heat treatment
They need to put this spring on the Mini Auto Adamas
That would totally spoil the customers!
I've been buying Axis Lock knives for 25 years ( over 30 of them). I beat on my OG ats34 710 for ten years (it is still functional). I have never had a spring break. I like the new spring but my Anthem and Narrows don't have omega springs.
Anthem is a hole in my collection. I would love to add it soon. Oh, the Narrows bought 2 the week they came out. I have a whole playlist about it: ruclips.net/p/PLQk7wjytAnym0avkVFTF5Zj3_JD2yQHg_&si=MpCZKLurQt9DmS7Z
So are you going to take the gold class 710 to the tree-of-doom? 😅
Yes! But I won’t stab it 😂🤣
Just seen the price, wow can you remember when we all thought the Anthem was bad? Glad im not moving with the times.Hope benchmade donated this one to you.!
😂 no way! They don’t do affiliations
They don't do affiliations, or you don't do affiliations?
I'd personally like a full sized sequel that's the best looking 710 I've ever seen or used.
Great video by the way, keep up the good work.
Safe queens and Knife Selling companies created this buzz word called "Fidget Factor" that you're not thinking of. Some idiot slamming the blade back and forth all day for a prolonged period of time will put a life times worth of abuse on a spring compared to someone who just simply pulls their knife out, cuts something, and puts it back in their pocket. Don't blame the company on that, blame the user.
You act like the company doesn’t promote the “fidget factor”. Besides that, the fidget factor comes naturally. Why? Because it’s fun, and it helps justify the ridiculous cost of the habit.
Wow , Benchmade spent a penny more 😱
Αδάμας=Diamont in Greek so you keep the tone at the first A
Sorry I mean the second A
What is up with BM and their pricing lately? 600 smackaroos for that?! There are so many more better knives to buy at that price point.
The unlimited production version is coming out soon. It will be $450. Aluminum scales, MagnaCut blade. I would recommend Hogue Mysto instead: Titanium scales, very well heat treated MC blade. More premium knife for much less
450 dollars for this... no way, no waaay
Some people put $3000 worth of rims and a $1200 tailpipe on their Honda Civic shitboxes. Some people buy limited edition knives that hold value over time. Pursuit of happiness has many different meanings. I bought 2 of them and paid $315 each
@@CuttingBoardRx I know mate its personal thing. Im from Europe so for me it is 415 euros (450 dollars) when include shipping plus taxes.
Why not switch to Titanium Springs? They already charge up the ass
Titanium is too soft! 😂
Both of you are not entirely correct. Neither are titanium alloys expensive, nor are they always soft. So that’s actually a good question.
Live kicked me out of the chat.
The nerve of RUclips!
In case you didn't see my last comments. It might help you in the analytics if you do lives on a set time/day weekly or biweekly- and also if they are a bit longer? 15 minutes is a short window for people to join in a live. Maybe aim for half a hour?
@@thornback5641 I am still kind of new to the lives and live chats. It kicked me out when the next video kicked in 😩 if you have some suggestions. I would appreciate any advice you can give. My email is in the channel description
Oh and there should also be data in your channel page that tells you when the majority of your subscribers are on if you are not aware- and setting your lives then will help you too!☺
@@CuttingBoardRx will do🧡💙💜
@@thornback5641 that is something I am tracking. Thanks!
Ever since Les De Asis retired, Benchmade has been going down hill. There keep getting more expensive while making lower quality.
Les actually passed away. RIP
@@CuttingBoardRx Thanks for that info. I always thought he was a great influence on the knife community. RIP Les.
I think Benchmade’s quality has dropped while their pricing has skyrocketed to absurdity. Especially when compared to Spyderco, Kershaw, Hogue, Microtech, etc. They are charging Sebenza prices at nowhere near the quality. They have lost their libtard minds.
Quality is the same. The "Benchmade tax" has always existed. This is not new... and has nothing to do with politics.
Spyderco also has significantly inflated their prices. Capara S30v lists at $264 (compare to bugout S90v and CF at $270)... base Para 3 lists at $160 (compared to a bugout at $165)...
Spyderco also has some knives at "sabenza prices" that should be half the price. Stovepipe at $410? Drunken at $490? Paysan at $644?
Microtech? What? Are you talking about their ram lock? the FRN knife priced at 250$? 🤣
Kershaw is cheap because their knives are cheap...
CRK are among the most overpriced and overrated knives on the market.
No,, the pocket clip change really ruins the look!🙂
Thanks! I’ll call Benchmade on Monday and tell them not to change it! 🤣
I find it amusing expensive benchmade decided to redesign then fix a problem. Yet a cheap Chinese crossbar lock doesn't have the same problem.
This to me is another example why i will never waste money on benchmade.
I stopped with benchmade after i found them donating to act-blue.
I don't understand the cult following.
Everything they make is always something wrong.
Why do you do these reviews like these knives are anywhere close to worth what they charge? Are you a sponsor for benchmade? And that is a real question. These knives are so overpriced, It doesn’t even matter what the features are. And did you just say they pay attention when their customer say something? People have been making these complaints about bench made for years and years and years if not a decade. Nobody thinks a benchmade bugout is a bad knife for $75. But when you charge 3 times the worth to 50-60 year olds in sporting goods stores it ridiculous and should be stopped.
Yes this channel with less than 7k subscribers is a sponsor for benchmade as well as a sleeper agent. I mean come on this guy spent like half the video bashing benchmade saying,”yeah it’s a cool knife but it’s not worth it”. It like your mongoloid brain couldn’t comprehend this entire video. Either that or you’re a caveman that has no idea how to watch a video on RUclips because you clearly didn’t watch it. Interesting that you know how to comment though. Regardless am I a benchmade fan boy? Yes. Are these knives worth it? No, unless discounted or second hand. The 710 especially is not worth it, it’s crazy expensive but at the same time so are gucci glasses but I don’t see you complaining about that. Benchmade isn’t the only knife company that’s overpriced countless other companies knives are overpriced yet people choose to think it’s only Benchmade that is overpriced. This is why I really don’t like the EDC community as a whole and why I really appreciate this channel. To sum it up, you’re an idiot sandwich and yes benchmades are expensive.
I buy all knives out of my own pocket.
why do you watch videos about a knife brand you have such a serious problem with?
Did you come here just to complain? If so you need a new hobby.
Maybe try actually collecting knives and enjoying them instead of just bringing up the vastly overstated point about how expensive they are.
@coloradohikertrash9958 well Sir, I don’t think 6730 people would agree with your opinion. And I shall let you in on a secret: every time you make a comment on a RUclips video, the AI algorithm shows the video to people with profiles similar to yours. So thanks for promoting my video.
Edit: just went from 6730 to 6734 subbs while I was responding to your comment 👍 Thanks again, friend!
Why do all the "buy American" clowns always fail even the slightest test of their beliefs