2011 Dodge Charger vs. The General Lee | Track Tested | Edmunds.com
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I'd still go with the General Lee!
Dugie555 YUP!!!!!
Dugie555 you read my mind the general Lee all the way
Well it is a hell of alot nicer looking than the new charger.
FARMinLATVIA yup the 1969 dodge charger. out performs. its modern rivals styling wise
Same.
If you pull up in a 69 charger to any test you already won
+therealsatan DAMN RIGHT!!!!!!!
Well I guess the way it is in life is you choose what you like. Ill take the crap bucket award. But someone that chooses the new charger Well you cant blame them either Its what car companies give us and its actually not a bad car it just falls severely short of filling the shoes of the original Charger . If I ever by a new charger Ill just use it as a taxi cab a Hellecat taxi thats a good job for that car or Ex police cars to cruise the left lane in and watch people move out of your way.
Yep severely short The old one had 2 doors and could carry a family. Where did you ever get the idea that it couldn't? It had a back seat that was good for 3 people and 2 in the front of there was a console otherwise 3 could sit in front as well. the new ones should start going to demolition derbys or let the Yahoos start painting them orange and jumping them. The old ones often sell for more than new Hellcat versions so let the new ones take a turn getting crashed and thrashed We wont miss them like the old ones .
***** The reason we have safety features on new cars is because back in the day there were weenies just like you today that thought they could drive and underestimated the power of some of these cars and got themselves into trouble So today car companies have to take away some of the control from drivers because they dont know how to use it responsibility While its true some of todays features help protect people in the event of crashes the bottom line is People cause and thier stupidity cause car crashes not cars. and if you open up that one track mind of yours You would see that. There are still plenty of car crashes today. Why is that? Safety features, excellent handling, ABS, traction control, air bags somehow still haven't stopped car crashes. Because of people who try to drive beyond thier ability and irresponsible use of cars. I dont give a damn what features they add to a car if the driver cant drive or is careless theres going to be an accidentSo its not about yesterdays cars being shit boxes. Yesterdays cars wrote the recipe for today cars. and I love all performance cars old and new But My love is more with the classics so Yes I love them and will always own one. You dont have to own any That leaves more for us. You stick to your safe new cars Just learn how to drive first. Now Beat it and take off that trick mustache.
***** I cant shut up because my mouth dosent have modern computer controls on it. Its like the old cars. Just raw power. Sure your driving record is perfect. It should be with air bags and ABS and traction control and auto braking Thats what new cars are designed to do Make better drivers congratulations on your acievement
The old Charger can not beat 45 years of new technology...
But when it comes to a "coolness test"... The General Lee kicks ass in every way!!!!
Chester Roberts And which variation of the Lee are they using? The official specs call for a 440. But there were many variations of the General for the show. Many had 383s, even a few 318. Bo's General Lee had a 511 in it. They should specify which engine is powering this General Lee.
Chester Roberts ...u tell em chesta them 69 be being th smooth rides, I be ownin a 70 an my home boy bout to paint it orange
Kamikazee Driver I agree, but I would go even further than that because story wise the General had a custom engine that I don't think we even know how big or powerful it was. So saying the Charger from the show loosing to the new Charger may not be accurate if you take into account the mythic engine they put in is that powerful.
+Chester Roberts Yeah, and it took 45 years to do it.
Half a century ago low tech ruled and past the time and duration.
Let's see if that 2014 can last half that before it falls apart... dropping all it's plastic and fiberglass parts with all the toxic chemicals they used to glue it together. Just saying.
Ya that charger looks and sounds like shit I love the general lee and the 60 and 70 chargers
The General Lee used to fly, now it has 4 doors.
All four doors welded shut
John Besson Okay 707hp dodge Charger hellcat is not no joke.
@@chargermaster586 It's a joke, because for a hellcat, people will take the Challenger all day. If someone has enough to pay for a new hotrod toy, they'll get the better looking car. No actual adult will put their family in a sedan with 707 hp. That's not anything to make a joke about. Cars can be replaced not people.
If a man is going to have some personal fun, he is going to go out in style, by himself, not with the family.
It used to be a muscle car, but now it's a family sedan with a big engine. The 2010s Dodge Challenger, though a different model, is closer to the 1969 Dodge Charger General Lee than the 2010s Dodge Charger.
the old charger looks better than the new charger
Dutch Mantel looks better but looks will only take you so far in life you also need to perform the Chargers don't look as cool as its 1960s ancestors but the New Charger hellcats with 707hp and 650 pound feet of torque will outperform the 1969 Charger.
DUH, YA THINK!?
@@chargermaster586 No shit sherlock
Waaaaay better.
So, 42 years and only .8 Seconds faster?
Chris Clugy well in that case the fictional character general lee had a NASCAR spec HEMI they got from a used car lot in one of the episodes.
Loys Eugene Carter Wrong! In the series, there are I think 2 episodes where they mention having a NASCAR spec 440 that they got from one of Richard Petty's junked cars (which in the episode was a horribly repainted Lee 1).
Only in the Knoxville/Stiffler bigscreen movie, did the General have a Hemi.
In the series, they mention it being a 440. Not all of Richards cars were Hemis.
***** In the SCRIPT I read of episode 129 where they are repo men it makes no mention of the engine displacement. It said that Petty had wrecked the car doing a tire commercial and that motor would make the General run like "Lee at Manasses" Also, In real life, Petty never raced a '68 or '69 charger. He drove a '66 plymouth road runner then re-skinned it to look like a '67. He asked twice for the new '68 charger and dodge told him no twice so in '69 he was driving FORDs when Dodge saw the error of their ways and got Petty back he was in chargers and they were all hemi's but whatever you can believe what you want and I will believe what I have seen and I don't care to discuss it any further.
+Lucas Arthurs LOL I know so true
Sure the new one's fast, but the older one is cooler and more iconic.
yup
That's for sure.
Let's see how much value that newer Charger has in 35 years vs the older one. My guess... Not much.
mr black6 Same thing can be said about 1969 Chargers if one day nobody cares about them anymore.
I agree with you on that all of the new 4 door charges will all end up in the junk yards and wont be worth saving. The first day off of
the lot new they are not worth anything.
The new charger looks like a family car. They should have made it more retro like the challenger.
wheelzwheela because it is
wheelzwheela that's what the challenger is for
+wheelzwheela The new Challenger looks more like a GTX or a Roadrunner though.
right it looks more like a family car than a race car
Charger Master i dont think people understand. Dodge made the charger because if they didn't, they would not have a midsize sedan in their lineup. The place of the company's flagship 2-door is taken by the Challenger. It just wouldn't make any sense to offer two coupe models and zero sedans.
Plus the charger still performs incredibly well. The hellcat is the fastest and the most powerful production sedan in the world.
I'd rather have the old school General Lee Charger than the modern day version. Of course the mordern day is going to slightly out perform and ride smoother than the older version because of the technology but that still wouldn't stop me from driving the old school coupe.
And the old one is worth a LOT more than the MSRP of the newer one!
and from what i've been hearing we could be at risk of a large scale solar flare with the effect of a worldwide EMP (kills electronics) and due to the lack thereof in the classic charger, it'd still be going
+Wayne Lovely That's fine by me because after 36,000 miles suckers like you will be in the same boat trying to buy part after part to keep the car going.
+Wayne Lovely Come correct again dumb ass I drive a Dodge Challenger RT+. Reason I say that is because I know certain people that have been having difficulties with Chrysler.
+Wayne Lovely Good for you then.
It's not about performance it's about how good looking the car is
Love the sound of the 440 big blok in the 69
I'm sorry the 69 is better in every way
after seeing this i will still have me 1969 dodge charger 383 ty
Oh yeah, the car sounds alot better than the new ones. I just love the rumbling idling sound of those old 440's!
I love my 2012 RT Charger but the General Lee will always hold a special place in my heart
Wait a minute now, put a Duke behind the wheel of the ol General. I seen them drive it better than that!
Yeah. Whoever drove the General didn't give it full potential.
Brought a tear to my eye:-) Gotta say though, the new car suffers from a puny exhaust sound...
To me? I'd take the 69, the style and the furious body roll are just so beautiful, and the sound? tremendous
Love the sound of that old charger!
I'd still rather have the general
Lee .. Awesome car. Legendary.
Compare them as much as you want, the 69 is still better.
Who the hell wants to drive a 4 door Dodge Charger? It's looks like a Dodge Neon with big rims...
looks like a family car and bmw?
Hey now, the Neon was a cute car. It was my wife's first car, and it did it's job quite well: fairly roomy compact sedan for getting around town. The Dodge Charger, however, is marketed as a muscle car, but it's just an ugly family sedan with a big, loud engine that drinks gas. I'd rather have a Chevy Malibu or Impala for my family sedan -- at least it's built to be what it is: a family sedan.
I'm pretty sure that is an original screen used general Lee . Great to see it still kicking strong
It is a surviving, one of the 17 remaining authentic General Lees from the show, and this particular Charger is the only 440 R/T that made it.
Seeing the "General Lee" in action brings back fond memories. Wish I had the foresight to hold on to my 1969 Charger. Like the 2011 Charger but still can't touch the original.
The new charger is just a mom's sedan that doge wanted to sell so they slapped the charger name onto it to make it sell. And of course a car that is made 46 years later would out perform it predecessor. My option is the old charger is better.
the newer chargers in my opinion arent even good they look like a person family car then a real muscle race car
Exactly
1969 is definitely better.
a 4 door charger looks awful
Ben Dover the new Charger looks awful. The General rocks its look in every way and catches my eye every time!
Ben Dover The new Charger Hellcat with 707hp can smoke general lee.
The 4 doors are insignificant in comparison to the styling fail of the rest of the new Charger.
I know right?
charger master
There’s more to a car than just speed.
I just drove a 2013 Charger R/T yesterday, it was instant love, it just picks up and goes, comfortable, fast, big car, and for me being 6'8" and just shy of 300lbs, it's perfect.
awesome test. i agree there needs to be a ramp test too
The SRT8 is so shitty looking in comparison to the original TWO DOOR. Excuse me, Dodge, but that is what the Charger is meant to be!! Not some fucking bland 4 door mom car. :/
dodge should just have left the legendary muscle car buried and not touch it it was great in its time but in this now eco friendly hybrid. family car suv market it just not what it used to be a race car
Well this test proves a few things here. First of all comparing an old mechanical car to a car loaded with technology and computers assisting the driver in every aspect is kind of pointless other than to compare how much more efficient computers are. Second Yes the new car outperforms the old in every aspect But considering the technology in the new car Does it really totally beat the old car senseless? NO IT DOSENT! it fairs better but not really by that much in all of the tests. There is one thing that the new Charger will never ever have and that is the class and general bad ass look that the old one has. I love the Dodge Charger Old and new but the mopar boys really failed us big time with the new charger They could have done a better job
Hey you... Mrs. Lovey. You obviously have no concept of the Dodge Charger and the history surrounding this car and If I were you before you tell someone to "get over it" go sit down and read about it first. Then when you learn something come back and try again. Since 1966 the Dodge Charger was meant to be a 2 door luxury sedan with optional performance if the buyer opted for it. by 1968 they tweaked the look and ended up with a car that was judged to be the best looking car of the time only to be beaten out by the new look of the Vette which was very similar in shape. After that the look of the Chargers started to slowly decline and yes the POS they had in the 1980's was nothing to be proud of BUT it still followed the 2 door concept. Much as I love the 1980's Every car in the 1980's was just basic transportation. The Mustang was little a degraded POS then too but STILL it had 2 doors.The best thing they could do was put the Charger name to rest at that time because they weren't doing the name any justice. They had a real chance to make a stunner of a car come back to life again in the Dodge Charger and they ruined it They quickly tried to make changes and make it look more like the old Charger which they did to a certain degree but they left it as a 4 door. Then to tweak peoples interest they throw in a super charger and people today that are so disconnected with automotive history act like its the greatest invention since the wheel. REAL CHARGERS HAVE 2 DOORS NOT 4!!!! Tell Ford to make their favorite son the Mustang with 4 doors or Chevy's all American hero the Camaro with 4 doors they wont because they are not as stupid as the idiots at the new Dodge company. Its funny how fast they ushered in the Challenger after the Charger and they did it to shut everyone the hell up about complaining over the Charger. Part of the problem with the original Chrysler motors corporation is Unlike Ford and Chevy they sold out and are not one of the original big 3 anymore and since europeans love 4 door performance cars that's why the Charger ended up that way too. Dodge also eliminated Plymouth which was another brilliant move by these modern day idiots because they eliminated some good potential comebacks like the Road Runner GTX, Duster and Cuda. Then again maybe that's a good thing after all because we dont more bad ass icons ruined We dont need need 4 door Cudas too. Im not saying the 4 door Chargers are junk but they could have did a much better job. If anyone had any common sense over at Dodge They would have named this car Coronet because those were available in 4 doors and performance models too. A little historical research by these so called Dodge guys would have went a long way.Theres no Mopar guys at Mopar anymore just guys making cars. And Yes losing 2 doors would be a good start and until that happens then to me the last Charger they ever made was that little 2 door hatchback you referenced from the 1980's. So dont tell me to get over it because I don't want to. You go find something to get over and then get over it.
agreed
+SmegSlebChef i like the old charger better aswell but i do have to admit these tests arent representative of real world driving im sure if you put an average driver in the seat on an actual road with traffic and pedestrians an other real world stuff both cars would be about equal the only benefit that the new charger would offer would be better fuel mileage...however that is negligible considering the maintenance cost and how without the computer brain that new charger would only get about one third the the advertised mileage... hell even the mileage tests on those cars is done in less than realistic conditions....in other words ill take the older better looking charger every time peace and kep the classics rolling and turning heads
Youre right So true I love my old cars too and some things are just better with new cars like brakes but all you have to do is update with disk brakes if its a car you really like thats all
+SmegSlebChef ive got a 71 ford f100 the kit to convert it to 2 wheel or 4 wheel disc brakes only cost. 1000 1500. respectively im sure one could upgrade the chargers as well...one other thing no one has mentioned old cars have an advantage. over cimputer cars ...old cars cant be hacked into by a hacker... theres was something about this on the cbs evening news about four months ago...
Fantastic video!!!!
Seeing that family sedan whipping the old Charger brings a tear to my eye. Oh well, the classic '69 Mopar wins hands down in beauty and panache.
No doubt. But the General could have been faster. The driver didn't give it its best.
General Lee will always be first in my book! Plus the 2011 models look like complete shit!
+Wayne Lovely Even if she does drive a sonic Shes got good taste so leave her alone She could probably out drive you
Lol I dont Drive a Chevy Sonic.
No matter what you drive in My book You are A-OK and like I said dont let that Wayne bully you around
Rookie Charger be like:
'not bad for a old man'
Ok and AzianLuvaBrotha one question what will you chose a new Dodge Dart or an Old scholl Dodge Dart that has twice the cylenders of the new Dart ?
thanks i have ben looking for that info for a 1 year so i will see if willwood 17in kit brakes are beter than my stock ones was that drums ??
just making my car safer o most hit a fire truck cut me off
Most of the people making comments here resist progress. You can't live in 1969 forever folks times change. The 69 is classic and yeah what car enthusiast wouldn't want one but the new chargers are fantastic too. (2015-16)
well I know nothing of the year 1969 and have never lived in the 60's or 70's but I still see the old charger as a much cooler looking car. Of course living in the past seems to be working great for the challenger
Yeah times change but when you look at the old one you see an elegant, stylish fast looking sports car. Then you look at the new one and it's big, ugly, a sedan... I mean come on
I with you on this one great comment.
mixwb You Really think a car performs better because of it being 2 doors and boxy the new Charger hellcats with 707hp and 650 pound feet of torque is really fun not as cool looking as its 1960s predecessors but still fast and fun to only pick 1969 dodge charger today because its a 2 door and looks cool would be like marrying a girl because the way she looks and nothing and is a terrible person on the inside.
charger master
The new Charger looks like a Camry or Corolla. At least the new Dodge Challenger still keeps its classic silhouette.
Come on guys, the new charger looks nice too.
Note, would take a '68 / '69 any day, but you guys gotta grow up.
the new Charger is as ugly as a 85 years old womans ass
The new Charger looks like some ugly mediocre Corolla. 😑 -_- Disgusting.
Depends in the model. some older chargers where running 13,s some had 4 speed manuals and they where no joke...
You saw how the guy in the newer on was getting slung around in side but the '69 absourbes the sway.
Go 69 charger!!!!!
2011 charger is a sedan! Ugly ass hell. I'll take the 69 any day over the 2011
No wonder why the new Dodge Challenger is more successful. The new Challenger is a great modern car while retaining its classic silhouette. The new Charger, on the other hand, looks like some mediocre Toyota. What a piss bucket joke.🙄
You can't beat the styling of the '69. Still want to see a two-door 2011 though.
Agree xxsum; went to the drags with my brother and his new '69 Charger RT 440 magnum. Turned out 11.5 sec 1/4 mile.
still take the 69 charger over that 2011 POS 4 doors dont belong a charger the general lee had 2 doors thats the way it should always be a 2 door car .its not for the family man
JAY OH Just get a '15 challenger RT
JAY OH or a charger hellcat!!
or a chevelle
Real hevey car ( General Lee)
*heavy
I agree... prefer 2 doors myself. But when 2 and 4-door options of the same car were / are offered in recent years, the 4-door variants outsell the 2-door options handily.
Right on man !! I could not have said that one ANY better ! Those cars used to be driven by guys who had a Bad~ass car to start with and actually did the driving themselves. Steve McQueen case CLOSED !!
The new chargers a gay 4 door what happened to the old charger
what I don't get is the challengers today look more like the chargers back then, Idk why they switched the names and such, it's really annoying
Yea.. It would be WAY cooler if they remodelled the new charger to look just like a 69 charger, only with a Hellcat engine, airbags, etc.
+Nathan Larson I can be Done guys have done it Dodge is stupid for not realizing the full potential of the Charger but the Old ones will always rule and don't let that idiot Mrs. Wayne Lovey tell you any different
Old farts? I'm 15 bud lol. The new ones are a faggy sedan with the name of a legendary sports car written on the side.
Funny guy. Have fun in your sedan lol
I have all stock 1974 Charger with a stage 3 big block 400 magnum and my 2005 Daytona edition Ram 1500 with a 5.7 Hemi beats the Charger badly in a quarter mile. It also beats the time listed for the newer Charger in this video. My old Charger hits 101mph in a quarter and my Daytona truck hits 108mph.
And the winner is: ...THE GENERAL LEE!!!!!
It's amazing that, aside from the braking, The General Lee can hold his own against his 42-year younger counterpart. That just makes me want my own General Lee, one day, even more. You can't go wrong with The General Lee.
Wonder which one clan fly better...
Wow, I didn't realize how much better the new car performs over the 'ol boat. the only down side is you can't land a chopper on the hood of a 2011!
True :P
You should have done this on dirt roads and wheres the horn test?
@StrightSideways just so you know, the six pack wasnt available in 69 for the charger yet, it was for the "A12" 69 roadrunner, six pack came available for the 70 charger, but in 69 it was either a 440 or 426 HEMI, that was for R/Ts, regular chargers got 383s,318s and very rare inline 6, not many of those lol, this general lee probably was a 383 at most and not an R/T
I like how the general lee slides as he hits the brakes. And Im surprised it does 0-60 in 6.2 thats impressive.
I have one in black. AMAZING car. fast and fun to drive. a real head turner too.. just waiting on tuning so i can get a twin turbo set up :)
right on!
Which skidpad result is better?
Damn, Feel That Muscle, Baby!
I like how the 70' rumbless and moves because of its beast under the hood
'69
Just the sound of the 440 pitches my tent
Explain us a little about : - Driver's skills (Same?, Professional?, Age?...) - Place (Where, ground?, Temperatures?...) - Mechanical conditions (Everything on both cars) and even so, I would never trade an old school Charger for one of the newest !!!!! Great Video anyway.
You can edit the 440 magnum engine mounts to fit a 350-454
how many times do you think the 2011 mest up before they shoed it doing it right.
@ timer mark 1:12 and 1:117 and 1:20. Whats that noise? Suspension components? Seriously Dodge?
That Old School charger is SWEEET!!!
Sincerely, with exception on the breaks, i tought that the new one would be much better in some marks than the old... I think a tuned general would give a litle bit more pain to the young charger.... Neverthelass, it´s good to see the improovments quantifieds... Congratulations for the moovie!
1:07 love that purrrrrr
@tanki9 you have to remember the current cars weigh more and 60-0 is pretty hard to stop under 120 in any car
@vipermoon64 notice how much better they brake as well, in one of the shots the '69 looked like it was going to go out of control by hard braking...
Top Gear did a segment where they compared old RACE cars to new showroom cars and in most test the new car performed as well or better. Its natural for us to look at the past with reverence but the fact of the matter is technology gets better as time goes on.
I like how no one in the comments actually bothered to read the article that this video goes with. For those of you who missed it, the '69 Charger WON the comparison test.
@the934x4 chevy may be broadcasting, but I haven't seen it yet. I will definitely check it out. as for the power stroke vs cummings, the cummings doesn't make more power, it matters on the weight of the truck. there are two main videos on youtube. 1 where the powerstroke is a dually, and yes the dodge won that. then there's another where the powerstroke isn't a dually and the ford waits till a little after the dodge takes off and damn near catches up with it. posting under a seconds difference.
I never liked any Charger...until this 2011 came out. Love it.
You're doing it all wrong, the General is supposed to be driven sideways on the straights and obviously it doesn't slalom, you need jump it while honking the horn. This will instantly increase it's power by a factor of 10!
Excellent test, not just making donuts burning rubber as most tests of US cars.
So we now know that years of development is valuable, the older car representing LESS wisdom and development like a teenager, and the new car a wise and distinguished gentleman ;)
1:08 i love the cammed idle you hear when the General Lee stops, it's almost as if it's saying, "yeah that stopping was appalling, but fuck you I'm the General Lee."
the reasons of a charger with 4 doors?? love the 68 69 70
Oh, did they make transmissions to bolt up too? Didnt think so
With the age difference and tire and brake technology the way it was the compared to now the old charger did pretty well. Put some better tires and brakes on the Charger and tune up that old 440 and the quarter mile times would be about the same. My 440 1970 Charger with a bigger carb and headers and 456 gears recorded a quarter mile time of 12.2.
finally found a comparison between two cars from different eras. ill still take the old charger over new though. now lets see the comparsion between the challengers, camaros, and stangs.
@irishsoccerguy its because general lee is a Dodge Charger R/T 440 that's why they test it with new R/T...
@BenzRules10 cars didn't have sway bars back in those days. Most cars had a lot of body roll
I am actually impressed with the numbers on the original Charger. I thought there was going to be absolutely no comparison, the only thing it had a HUGE problem with was braking. Those old 11" drum brakes were good for ONE panic stop, that was it until they cooled off. I'm pretty sure that with some tweaks the 69 could get numbers closer to the new one without breaking the bank. Not hating on either one, I have an 05 Magnum RT, my dad has an 09 Charger R/T AND '08 300 Heritage Edition.
omg the sound of that engine when he was slowing down from 0-60 JIZZZZ
That looked scary when the General did the slalom and the figure 8, it looked like it was going to flip
Well, cars back then were big and heavy and the suspension wasn't really all that great.
The General Lee has more soul, the 2011 Charger doesn't have the same level of badass
@JimmyVDitti What were you expecting? It doesn't have Anti lock Brakes, and they're Drums, not Discs.
@Trekker1801 specially if you consider that the 2011 RT is at least 300 lbs heavier than the general lee
@JimmyChannel1
I don't know, it's too blurry to see. I didn't think Nissan made the Murano in a drop top version, not the one I'm thinking of anyway. You sure it was a Nissan? Almost looked VW-ish.
The real question is what powerplant and transmission is in the general. To my understanding the show used 318, 383, and 440 all with 3 automatics. I'd love to have the performance of the modern charger, but it's the General is the freaking General Lee.
A handful of them did use manual transmissions. Far as engines go, you are correct.
I would love to restomod a general. Have the old school original look but have new and aftermarket parts. The old 440 would be stroked and ported ( idk much about the 440 btw ) and connect to a 6 speed. Make a complete badass. Who's with me!
great vid
@lockdown260
I think what he means is the Charger has a Mercedes Benz chassis (so does the Challenger). However, they've been revamped by American engineers, so that doesn't make them a hybrid of foreign and American cars (unlike the new Camaro).
I absolutely love both of these cars . I agree that dodge needs to bring the front to look like the general lee 69 charger but at the same time i still love the viper inspired head lights on These new models . I own this 2011 charger hemi and love it to death but I'll probably trade up in 6 years when they change the front in 2017 .
I sympathize with the classic Charger driver. Stopping in a car using drum brakes all around, and no computer controlling the brake pressure sucks. really makes you appreciate discs and ABS
Are they pushing the pedle right down?
' 69 Dodge Charger, that's a real car.That's when Dodge made excellent cars.The ones today are alright but no comparison.
I agree. The current Challenger should in fact be the Charger in my view, and the Charger (LX Platform) could be another old nameplate, like the Monaco or something.
who said i was talking about weight? i doubt that performance numbers were the sole focus of the new charger, it's a sedan not a performance coupe, the '69 charger however, the focus was absolutely on performance numbers
There are many things to consider when looking at these two cars, but for me, it all comes down to which one I'd consider selling an internal organ for. And that would be the 69. Yes its slower takes longer to stop blar, blar, blar, but good God that is one sweet ride. For all its issues, I'd go for the 69 Charger every time...