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Bring that price down and the range up and I'm all over it. Just like electric cars!
@Ian yeah I agree, I need vehicles to be ready instantly, not sitting for hours
The price is more likely to go up, not down. Just look at the phones. An "expensive" phone in the pre-iPhone days would cost 250-300USD. And the battery would last a week, not five hours. An iPhone 12 Max costs a whoopping 1400USD...
@Ian true, the range is just whack, that's why fuel engine rule every transportation
@@okaldhol interesting point
on the other hand its because of the "lifestyle" thing, people LOVE to pay for expensive stuff to make them feel premium
almost everyone can afford a 1000 dollar phone to feel special
but almost no one can afford a 100.000 dollar car
so it will be interesting to observe if the prices stabilize
in my humble opinion nothing will really move until we make a breakthrough in battery technology because current batteries are just not good enough.
for small things yes but not for huge things like vehicles... so yeah the future will certainly be exciting
electric cars still suck today ,and I'm use for travel ,I'm still not sure if EV are the future , more in to Hydrogen energy
IMHO electric bike makers should focus on commuter bikes. Short, frequent trips, like going to work, are where they make the most sense, save your gas bike for fun on days off.
If you haven't seen it yet, the new SONDORS E-Motorcycle fills that niche perfectly.
they are dude....Zero has been focused on commuting and offroad their entire existence.
Seen the Mugen? The Zero? The Mugen broke the speed record at the Isle of Man TT beating a petrol 1000cc super bike by something like 3 mph faster clocking in at 167mph in the lap by Guy Martin.
Can I ask why? Electric bikes hold the place for most torque even when compared to a literal Jet engine bike... 😅
@@thepvporg I think Joey Dunlop holds the lap record, not sure about top speed though. The problem with electric vehicles of any kind is the limited distance they can go, a Tesla for example is only good for just over 1 lap of the Nurburgring, I wager the Mugen would not be able to do 2 laps of the TT track.
I like the thought of a pull out battery where you could stop at any Auto-Zone or even Costco and swap your battery like you can swap out a propane tank for your grill.. I think that'll be the future.
The ability to upgrade the technology would be good too.
Lots of guys day they are gonna pull out tho...
The Sondors metacycle does this
It will have to be, batteries have a lifespan.
Going to just end up replacing the cost of gasoline that most people buy EVs to escape. Don’t mention the cost of a new battery pack. 😬
As a new rider, the idea of electric motorcycles is absolutely awesome to me and I'd love to own one some day when they drop in price
That's exactly how I am rn but might just commit to the current prices as gas is becoming insane
Indeed, but even the livewire for 22k isn't an out of this world price, maybe 5 more years and we'll be able to convince ourselves it's worth it
Where I live there’s a store that sell tons of these you can either pay full price for $1700 or do a $50 down payment and pay $50 a week
Tao Leo. Go with 72v (standard), but if you can afford more than the 40AH battery (Lithium, don't buy Gel Lead Acid), do it. I just put the first 45km on my bike and have roughly 40% left. 40ah battery 160lbs rider.
Ultraviolet from India is roughly 4k USD and puts down numbers like a 2 stroke 125. As market volume goes up, the prices will come down.
I'm studying to be an electrical automation tech and my stance has really done a 180 since giving this stuff a chance conceptually
You just described my experience as well. I was completely against EVs until I studied electric motors in my engineering courses. It’s incredible what they can accomplish and instant torque can be really fun
As a Zero SR/S owner for 2 years, I can happily say that its the coolest, most badass bike out there. Sure, I can't take it across the US without pre-planning my trips at charging stations, but that's not how I ride anyway. The speed and acceleration is smooth and incredible every single time. The quiet rides through the parkways is relaxing and very zen. I get asked every time I take it out by other motorists if it's electric and they all seem to be intrigued with it. Plus it looks badass. I highly recommend everyone to take a chance and at least try it out - it'll seriously change your mind about motorcycles.
Sadly most people hate what they don't know, most of them never even sat on an electric motorcycle, they don't know what they are missing out!
@@MrJoe988 I totally agree. There's no need to hate on em, they are incredible!
@@CeeCee23 Btw if you are interested I do own an Energica, among a Zero DS and multiple ICE motorcycles, I do make video about them from them to time on my YT channel :-)
Im a energica owner for 1.5 years and loving it
@@WattsToTheWheels Nice!!
Me watching this knowing damn well ill never be able to afford an electric bike: "hmm... yes, interesting."
Never say "never". Things are moving quite fast.
The used market will be your entryway. Electric bikes will Last far longer Then gasoline powered bikes Particularly with the next generation of battery Tech that should be hitting the market in the next year. If you can get 100000 miles out of a good Gas powered motorcycle you can get 200000 out of a good electric motorcycleWhich means the used market will eventually get to a point where you can pick one up pretty cheap
@@mrspeigle1 i'm afraid it'll mirror prius and leafs which basically have half the range by then
The day it becomes reasonable to do a ride across states without needing to book a hotel every few hundred miles is when I'll consider changing over.
I don't get it. It's not just the bike that needs recharging, you know?
@@sirmclovin9184 You're right there. Rest is important. My point earlier being that it takes a good while to charge an electric vehicle so that greatly limits how much can be done in a day. A few hundred miles regardless of how good the rider is feeling or wants to do.
Why would you book a hotel? Depending on the model your looking at 1 hour of charging for a full charge. You could stop somewhere for something to eat and be on the road again.
Your state should build out more e-chargers or have better rebates.
It takes like 40 minutes to fully charge most EV's.
I ride a 2015 Yamaha Super Tenere and a 2020 Zero SR/F. Unless I'm riding down into Mexico for awhile, the Zero is always my fave. DAMN that bike is fun!
I have an S10. Maybe, by the time I kill it (only 1500 miles on it right now), they will have friendlier numbers for both the range and price. And, I kind of like choosing gears.
Still waiting for a "So you want an MV Agusta"
It’s honestly not bad, when I’m old af I would get one of them lol
By then they would be better too
They will be awesome by 2035 guaranteed. Im probably stick with gas for as long as poss tho.
For real look up the evoke 6061... I when I get back to work I’m gonna try and get the deposit together!
@@indoctrinate4740 Progress and innovation need buyers to support the development. They don‘t happen on their own
Right, I saw those super sports and my eyebrows went to the sky
If I can't rev it to hell at a red light for no reason, I don't want it.
Lmao
Lamr Daf
Damn straight! 😂
Why else even ride a bike?
You can light up the back tire and do a smokey burnout, very quietly!
For me to consider electric it needs 3 things.
1) Charge time needs to be much closer to the time it takes to fill a tank.
2) Weight. They are currently too heavy.
3) It needs to make noise. I'm good for a speaker, it can sound like a twin one day and a 4 the next! I like that idea.
The mechanical simplicity is a selling point though.
But the reality is that the Western world isn't currently set up for it.
If you live in a block of flats, where are you going to charge it?
I'm in the UK, my mum often can't even park outside her house most days. Who's going to pay for the infrastructure? It still requires fossil fuels to generate that electricity and then there is disposing of the batteries...
The aspect about engine noise in e- bikes is definitely a possibility but we enthusiasts will have to demand it from manufacturers.
@@enginerev1108 still it would be so... fake
i cant be the only one who feels like it right??
@@MelindaColden the sound can be engineered to be like real. We ourselves work on such technologies. However by fake if you mean it won't be the sound coming from engine you are right.
On the flip side one can have a variety of choices like a I4 one day and a V4 next 😀
lets pray for electric bikes...bcoz its unexplored new tech powers n self reliable fuel..
1: done, The next generation of batteries will have a charge time in the 15 minute range
2 zero srs weighs about the same as a ninja 1000
3: install speakers and play whatever sound you want..
5: every electric outlet is a potential charging station for these bikes, And because it's a motorcycle getting it closer to those outlets is much easier. Finally you don't have a gas pump in your front yardOr in your apartment block. You also don't visit the gas station every day, As ranges increase Skipping charging for A-day is going to become more and more convenient, Also keep in mind we're just beginningTo experiment with electric transportation in earnest, Some of the newer motorcycle concepts I've seen out and about have removable battery packs That you could easily carry up to your apartmentTo charge overnight.
winter riding with a yamaha r6 you get a bit of a warmth bubble that helps keep you warm :D
My concern is over actual use. They “say”150-200+ miles to a charge but in real life it’s like 50 miles. And if you run out of power, it’s not like add gas and go... it’s tow truck time.
Depending on the battery size if wear a backpack and always keep a spare
@@chrislewis7006 sure just gonna carry a 150lb battery with you everywhere
Most batterys for these elctric bikes are usualy pretty big. Dont get me wrong i would really want one. But its still in its early stages right now.
@@johnnytech0309 I made sure I covered my ass with my comment I said depending on battery size. If all the present batteries are too big then I will not if any of the future batteries are small enough then I will
My morning commute is 25km at 180km/h and 5km of city traffic launching at every stoplight.
Very doable on a premium Electric motorcycle like mine ;)
sounds perfect for the energica ego (limited to 240 kmh)
I ride a bike because its cheaper than a car. For around 25000€ I could buy a car. I paid like 3000€ for my bike and haven't had any problems yet. There is also the question how the batterys hold up in the winter at -10°C.
@@brng1755 I tested exactly that. Its 30% - 50% more "thirsty! at that temperature.
Costs highly depends on where you charge and how much you ride. For me, going electric is cheaper after 4 years, but that of course is different for everyone
For some unknown reason I want to keep watching Yammie Noob!
I don't think its a matter of "I wont give up my gas bike" its more like I won't give up not having to wait for my bike to charge or paying a premium for an electric bike. Honestly, if you can charge an electric bike in the same amount of time it takes to fill the bike I have now up with gas then sure, I'd love to get one. And if they cost the same, but until then you aren't gonna convince me. When you think of a motorcycle, or at least when I do, I think of freedom and exploration... waiting 4 hours to charge a zero sr/s after only going 150km doesn't exactly scream freedom. Far less than 150km on the highway. So yeah, I wouldn't give my bike up for that. No friggen way.
It takes 40 min to add 100km of highway range on my motorcycle, sure is not as fast as filling gas, but surely is faster than 4 hours on a Zero
@@MrJoe988 with what kind of charger though? Like the ones that are popping up at gas stations or a 110v wall charger kind of thing?
@@LunchBXcrue The ones that are popping at the gas stations (also called DC fast charger) are the one that allow a 40 min charge, while from the wall charge the time increase a lot (4 to 5 hours for the equivalent of 100km range) however in my experience is not a problem as if I charge at home is almost always an "overnight" charge, which means the bike will be plugged for well more than 5 hours. On the other hand If I am on the road and need a top up, I just stop at a charge station for 30/40min every 110/130km. Not as practical as a gas bike, but is a trade off that I don't mind doing.
@@MrJoe988 Problem is, how does this all work when significantly more riders (and motorists) all move to electric? Power is the main issue with electric vehicles. Its bad enough queuing for petrol sometimes, imagine the lines at stations waiting for loads of vehicles getting a 40mins for 1 charge to take you 100 miles down the road. Concept is there, practicality isn't enough for me to make the jump; bike or car.
@@luckybuccaneer Consider that with electric you can fill the battery at home overnight, you cannot do that with petrol, which means less people in general will need to top up at public stations. Also making new charging station is a lot easier to make a petrol station, I expect that once the market catches on, so will the number of public stations. I'm not worried
Hi there. I'm quite well-versed in electric bikes. There's a fair bit of stuff that was missed, starting with Mike Corbin's electric bike that he sold 250 of in the 1970s.
The next most critical things I would say you skipped are that the Lightning LS-218s don't really exist, and you completely omitted the H-D LiveWire which, while expensive, is really well-made. I'd be happy to talk about any and all of this stuff at length.
I think the live wire is worth mentioning just because it's fast charge capable and the Only electric motorcycle I'm familiar with to have completed an iron butt challenge. It really is an underrated bike
@@mrspeigle1 to my knowledge the LiveWire never completed an Iron Butt. An extremely shady article claimed it did but, when pressed for information, refused to divulge details. The only electric Iron Butt was set by Terry Hershner on an EXTREMELY modified Zero in 2014. I really tried to get info about... what was his name... Michel Von Tell and his supposed LiveWire record but the more I pressed the more vague they became.
I'm not saying it's impossible on that bike, but I am publicly stating that I do not believe it has been done yet. Come at me, Michel. If you're out there reading this.
_The_ major question that the above video does not cover is: *_reliability._* Tesla (and many, many gas car makers) had reliability concerns that hurt the brand early in its start. I heard ZERO has reliability issues. So covering reliability of the electric vehicle makers is a topic that should be covered with detailed statistics for the consumer not just trying to sell the electric bike for free bikes or money like many RUclipsrs.
I owned the SR/F and needed work on it ALL THE TIME. Little chinese components were failing constantly. My brake light basically never worked.
That metacycle looks great at 5k
I own 2 Tesla’s, with an EV motorcycle my next purchase. Fill up at home with my solar panels. Save $400/month on gas and home electricity with excess sold to Grid
I use off-grid solar to charge my Ego+ and Bolt EV, and psychologically those free miles feel different than charging at stations
I'll get a Tesla when they offer the option of only 75 mile range, but 0-60 in a second or so with a 200+ top speed. The sole reason to have a Tesla is to troll-drag-race gas cars, so make it trackable.
I can't see a reason for any electric motorcycle that doesn't whip the pants off a comparable gas model. It needs to take off on a 0-300kph run and leave everything non-electric in the rearview all the way to that top speed.
There is no point for new but NOT improved products!
There's no doubt that electric is the future...but the sound a bike makes as you head towards that red-line will never be replaced!
I really liked the end of the video when Yammie, said that electric bikes today are like the 2007 iPhones. They weren’t the best, they were different and lacking in multiple areas at the time, but many years later, iPhones have better technology to store more space, have longer battery life, advanced cameras and other features. I feel like with time, electric bikes will continue to improve since they are relatively new today 🙏
I test rode a Zero SR and that was some of the most fun I've had. And surprisingly controllable for even a novice like me.
I can’t wait for an electric bike, I hate how loud motorcycles are, I ride at night a lot and I hate driving past peoples houses.
But motorcycles aren’t loud
I recently bought one of these as my first Motorcycle, from a Canadian brand called Vipermax, I'm getting it tomorrow from me posting this and I can't wait
Love your videos!!
Living in Seattle, I see a lot of Zero for commuters. I get it as transportation... but it lacks that special something a gas bike has
Polluting the air?
@@anonphil gottem
Internal combustion engines are disgusting. Always have been, always will be.
Diesel's rules
I think electric motorcycles are hella fun but they're meant for a certain type of rider
You mean the gay type 😂😂😂😂 just kidding btw
@@dgyh3372 you okay bud?
@@dgyh3372 hahah not quite what I meant but hey if going from 0-60 in 3.3 seconds makes me gay then so be it
@@patrickstar6911 okay then I diagnose you with GAY
@@patrickstar6911 So entry Superbike acceleration without the mechanical parts? Lol
must... keep.. watching...
KEEP WATCHING YAMMIENOOB!
So excited to try an Electric bike 🏍 the set up sounds like my old Vespa, where there’s no shift and low maintenance and being a fun ride.
i cant wait for e motorcycles to be everywhere i hate when people think louder is better
I think for most riders, electric bikes are great. Most people don't take long rides, or just commute with their bikes. Naked bikes are designed for short trips around town. The only obstacle is charging your bike, you pretty much need a house.
Ok, read a book on current developments in internal combustion. We still have a lot to learn and improve on. Hybrids are the future
My bet is we’re going to see that with a lot more cars, and tractor trailers soon, but I don’t think we will with bikes. Too much expense not enough profit. We’ll see diesel bikes before we see gas electric hybrids. Of course this is all my opinion brother
I think we‘ll see different powertrains between transport/cargo traffic and individual/local traffic. While individual transport (private cars and motorcycles) will switch to battery electric drivetrains, due to the tremendously lower local pollution and very high efficiency of electric drivetrains (efficiency is approximately (my own guess based on (little) knowledge) 80-90%), transport and cargo will stay with fossil or e-fuels. In my opinion hybrid systems (phev, milde hybrid etc.) won‘t have a bright future at the current development towards big, heavy SUVs and Crossovers. Many carmakers like VW have great concepts like the VW XL-1, a small, light car powered by a 0,8l Diesel engine that had very little fuel consumption of under 2l per 100km. But I haven‘t heard of that in years and I don‘t think they‘ll come up with a revision of that concept. Hydrogen electric drivetrains are a great concept too but they definitely have their problems too (low efficiency, expensive production, technical problems (eg the fuel tank has to widhstand pressure of up to 700 bar or 10,000 psi which makes them heavy and bulky) and ofc almost no country has build up an infrastructure in hydrogen fuel stations). Whatever the future has in store for us I‘m grateful to experience that development.
My brand new 2020 Zero DSR died after 2 months (permanently damaged the battery) then died again 7 months later. When it works, its a blast. Otherwise BUY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
was it covered under warranty?
WRONG! (Imagine orange man saying)
Electric ones were shit and are growing in masive leaps, thats why they have plus hundreds % in specs, or in laptimes. But they are still very much behind petrol bikes. And because we have reached top of petrol engines growth of them can not be the same as electric.
Love your vids
Hellz yeah
"... and talk about whether or not it's worth trading in your old gas guzzler for a new whisper-quiet magic carpet with face-melting torque." 🤣
If I could get an electric motorcycle with a decent range and a normal price I'd jump on it in a instant. Sondors nearly got me but the commute to one of the 3 facilities I work at would leave the battery drained about half way home...
That's the advantage to the sondors though, the battery is removable so you just pop it out when you get to work and plug it into a 3 prong outlet, and by the time you've finished the shift your fully charged again. < Though I want to see real world proof of range before before I invest in any electric bike. Not just a number on On a website but an actual 70 miles an hour at 70ﾟ How far will it go range test.>
Interesting that the power to weight ratio of motorcycles in general solves for the main issue of electric car which is range. Electric motorcycles may actually stand to gain range.
Energica bikes are beast too they are insane and test ride and getting one as well.
My first motorcycle was actually an electric. I still have it 3 years later and it runs as good as the day I bought it. Compared to my ICE bike, the thing is super smooth. While it's not good for long rides, it's absolutely perfect for city driving.
What model?
Cold day, cold weather...
Readout says 65F.
Cold doesn't start until your readout number has a (-) in front of it.
So range is dismal, takes forever to "refuel", heavy, expensive, and doesn't have that visceral experience of noise and changing gears. But its got more torque torque and a little less maintenence. Uh huh.
Exactly my point bro👌
Couldn't have said it better myself
Yammie didnt tell you about the fast charging of energica bikes. They all come with CCS fast charging. They are refilled in 20 - 30 minutes.
@@WattsToTheWheels A pertol tank is filled in less than a minute bro
@@joek.9122 Its kind of weird how every biker wants to go pee, smoke, have a coffee from time to time. Everytime I meantion that in the time you need to drink a coffee your bike can be charged up, every biker claims to go 600 miles at 150mph and dont take breaks.
Any ideas how this comes?
@@WattsToTheWheels Good point. However, considering your user name, your a bit biased on this subject and will readily overlook or make excuses for legit concerns.
Consider...not every hotel/gas station will even have a place to and or allow you to charge your bike on their dime. This is especially true outside of heavily urbanized areas. Furthermore, to my understanding a lot of the fast chargers only work on a special outlet you have to install in your home and or it also uses a big bulky adapter that would be a PITA to carry around on a motorcycle.
The arguments for people who claim to ride 600 miles at 150mph are obviously on the extreme side, but so is the claim that charging an E-bike is not a big deal compared to the convenience of pumping gasoline in your tank.
It matters. Personally, I'll stick with tried and true ICE bikes for now. I'm not against E-bikes and in fact I look forward to getting one in time, but probably 10-20 years from now when they are much more refined, cheaper and generally much better than ICE bikes, rather than compromising on things that do in fact matter to those who aren't willing to jump to a piece of immature tech.
So, maybe in thirteen years I might get an electric motorcycle.
Yep, kinda like when we were kids and the teachers said the metric system was coming 🤔
I have an electric bike, Brammo Empulse. Use it for commuting and quick runs into town to grab whatever my wife forgot from the grocery store. Treat it like a cellphone pretty much. Run it until the battery gets low, plug it in overnight, good to go for the next days activities. Sure you have some range anxiety in the beginning, but honestly you get over it once you ride it a couple times. Also have solar panels on my house, so I ride for free. Try that with your Yamaha. Oh, forgot to mention, I bought it for $3800 on Ebay.
couple more years the tech will be better and the prices more competitive. I am seriously considering getting a electric motor bike in the future.
Aye! the Yam Gods have adorned us plebeians with Yammy-goodness yet again!
I've thought an electric motorcycle would be the perfect commuter vehicle, and I think once they get cheap enough that will be their dominant market. Low maintenance, low operating costs, eco friendly, quiet, don't have to bother with gas (just plug it in every night) they would be the absolute best vehicle for someone frequently doing a relatively short ride. Wouldn't be as suitable for people wanting to go long distance, or even have the most fun, but if you want to get to work every day at minimum cost it can't be beat. Gas motorcycles are toys, electric motorcycles are appliances. I think channels like this forgets that anyone in the world wants to motorcycle for practical purposes. I'm getting into motorcycling now with that as my primary use, even a gas motorcycle (especially a little one) is a lot more economical than my car, once they get cheap enough I hope to go electric.
I can't see a reason for any electric motorcycle that doesn't whip the pants off a comparable gas model. It needs to take off on a 0-300kph run and leave everything non-electric in the rearview all the way to that top speed.
There is no point for new but NOT improved products!
@@RobertMorgan To each their own, all depends on what you're going for. Someone seeking an "appliance" to commute on with minimal cost and hassle wouldn't have any desire for that and would want something cheaper. Sport bike bros would only want it if it's absurdly fast. It feels like most watchers of this channel forget that there are at least a few people out there who see motorcycles as practical transportation rather than toys.
@@quillmaurer6563 they are awesome for 10-20 miles commute if they have lower price.
@@treasurewuji8740 Yeah, it feels like there's sort of a "missing link" between the super-performance electric sportbikes, which have a cost to match, and the low-performance machines that are basically scooters. Nothing suitable for a 10-20 mile commute that might include freeway riding at a reasonable price. Comparing to available electric cars, it's like there's the Tesla Model S P100D and a golf cart, when what is needed by many is a Nissan Leaf.
FYI - The Peugeot eBike is restricted to moped speeds because of road traffic laws and by driving licence category so that you can jump on one of those eBikes with a provisional licence and insurance, you can be mobile at 28mph for at least 25 miles which for most commuters in the UK, live a couple of miles drive, so that could be 5 days charge on one bike.
The only reason I can't get down with electric bikes is because I don't like a computer assisting my inputs. I bought my MT07 because it's throttle by cable and has no traction control or rider modes to worry about.
Other than a short, in town commute, electric bikes are useless. When i go for a ride on the weekend it's 300+ miles. A quick 4 day weekend was 460 miles to Gettysburg in 8 hours. Then ride the area for 2 days and another 460 miles home. Completely infeasible with an electric bike. Highway riding would take about 5 recharges just to get there. Electric vehicles are not practical.
I have the A1 license and owning an electric motorcycle is dope. In europe distances are way shorter and gas is EXPENSIVE having a 125 that you going to sell after 2 years is a money grave. My bike takes zero maintenance since it has no chain but a belt. It's not a zero, it's a waaaay cheaper chinese super soco TCmax. I just love going to school and everywhere on that bike. I can just tell you don't get an Ebike if you hate talking to people I get into so many convos
Definitely not getting an electric bike any time soon but eventually who knows
Sure I’ll buy one. But would need to have 7.1 ten level surround sound to sound like a cross plane Yami R1.
That might be a possibility for sure !
I know they are not available in USA, but check out Gogoro. Taiwan electric scooter company with batteries that you switch out. It requires much more infrastructure, but we can now travel almost anywhere on the island now and not worry about finding a charging station.
Great content guys. Thanks
I would love an electric motorcycle. Get the range up to 400-500 miles and the price around 10000 and I'm in
Behold the progress, and this progress will forever will bury rock and roll soul. The pain of my generation. Friends, perhaps we had to live in the best time, after all, we are at the crossroads between the new era and Kosnervatism.
I think I'll get an electric bike once the price drops a little more. I certainly want one as a daily commuter.
I REALLY want Zero's sumo, but that paltry range is keeping me from making the jump over to it. They do have the option for a second battery tank to make it somewhat useable, but it comes with a huge weight addition also. Maybe in said 13 years it'll finally be worth it. I sure hope so.
The only point of an electric motorcycle is if it goes 0-300kph faster than a gas model.
Otherwise literally what is the point? The whole point of a Tesla is you can leave a 1000hp nitrous race car sitting at the line.
This is why Ford NAILED it with the Lightning electric truck, making it the fastest truck they've ever made. If electric doesn't outperform gas in the speed dept, it can't overcome the shortfalls of electric.
Sound of exhaust good no sound bad electric motorcycle bad
And no gear changing engine note to let you know when to shift before and after corners. The fun of shifting with out speed dials.
The resale value for e bikes are a huge down side.
Again, please remember that energica comes standard with fast charging, which gives you basically unlimited range, just the same way a gas bike does.
Also, I cannot warn you enough of the lightning strike. This bike is dangerous, and i dont mean the good way. The Bike is poorly built, you can easily reach the cells and high voltage connectors. Please search for the lightning vieos on the channel of Brandon Nozaki Miller. he did a a review of the bikes and gave a few interviews about it. Please dont buy a Lightning strike.
So the energica can fully charge in 10 minutes?
Great video to watch GAS TROLL. EV OR GAS, What pollutes more? Also just think of all those metal oil filters replacements every 5000 miles in land fills. Many car and motorcycle manufacturers going with paper cartridge
I'd really want an electric bike but the main issue is it doesn't have the mileage that gas bikes have simply because there are very few charging stations for an e-bike, so until it becomes a huge trend, might as well accompany it with a mobile charger that you can carry while riding
Ride it to work, plug it in, ride it home..it all depends on your right wrist.
@@murraehaynes3182 no, i mean like travelling cross country
No, I understand...they’re mostly good for urban commuting at this time..my bike would go about 130 miles in town on a charge, but only about 70 miles in the highway at 70...three hours to fully recharge on 220 from 5%, 8 hours on 110...still a hoot to ride
I’ve had an e-bike since 2014...rode it on the street for two months (awesome) then converted it to a race only bike for club racing...will convert it back to street this year as the increasing technology has made it uncompetitive.
I think for it to work,
the industry needs to come up with maybe a few universal battery sizes for different bikes and have battery stations like gas stations,
Battery stations will monitor the health of the battery and do maintenance and replacements. People just change batteries there.
And The insurance companies will have to get involved.
One other thing to mention - Even if money is no object and you can afford the Energica, you can't get away from physics. Those things are HEAVY.
I own one, and Yes, they are, however once on the move the weight is not really an issue and the bike is surprisingly agile!
@@MrJoe988 That statement could be true of any motorcycle, but not the point. That IS heavy, and it matters to many. I would not buy it if I was a millionaire.
@@rob21 I disagree, because is not just how much heavy it is, but also where the weight is located, let's put it this way a BMW GS 1200 feels much heavier than an Energica, yet is 20kg lighter; it seems you are just stuck on principle.
@@MrJoe988 Congrats on your strength. Not everyone has that. Why not buy a 1000lb bike then?
@@rob21 I am not a strong person, and you don't need to be a strong person to ride an electric bike, that is the point I am trying to make!! electric bike feels lighter that the scale say. But I guess you made up your mind, no point trying further.
I don't know what I'd do without my daily dose of yammie noob.
The problem with an electric motorcycle really comes down to physics. Compare the fuel consumption between a bike and a frugal estate car and for non-urban travel they won't differ a lot. A bike while far lighter than a car has really crappy aerodynamics. This tells us the demand on the battery for an electric car/bike will be similar. But a car packs a 40-80 kWh battery pack while bikes tend to settle around 15 kWh. And unless we see a major revolution in battery tech and a move from li-ion, something that's many years away, electric bikes are really as good as we can hope for them to get at the moment.
The comment section is funny.
I drove a tesla for the first time in 2010. As a professional race driver at the time I was just flashed. It was so much superior to any supercar from a performance perspective.
People who talk about range and charging speed and weight simply do not understand how much performance electric vehicles offer. There is not a single combustion engine in this world that can take it up with even a mediocre electric engine in terms of performance.
Screw the nostalgia. If you actually care about riding/driving you should care about electric vehicles. They are superior and not just by a margin.
Another great video
E-bikes are the future........don't fight the future cuz you'll lose. Just wait for better batteries and much longer range.
Ok I’ll wait, but you also have to include no more than a 10 minute charge time. With out that e vehicles won’t be viable for anything more then running around town.
But no gearshift. It's a scooter.
thats a horrible argument. Sure, EV might be the prevalent thing in 50 years...or not. It won't be gas bikes at SOME point in the future...but it may or may not be EV
Cut the range to like 25 miles. Up the amperage from the same battery. Do drag runs with sub-1 second o-60s and funny car times.
Otherwise there is no point.
If you lose to a gas vehicle, electric is a fail, because it's not an improvement. What idiot buys a new, more expensive product with LESS capabilities than the old existing one?
The 223 miles with the sr is with the power tank only in the city. It still gets the 171 miles city but it’s way more efficient.
Custom Electric Motorcycles bring them on!
Riding an ebike is like riding a plywood you half control at 100mph.
You really think it is flying.
I cannot feel it touching the ground.
If I had the money they ask for I would buy them. In the UK they cost around £7500 for a 125cc! And an a2 bike costs £13000! My 2 bikes costs the price of the 125cc electric...
I can see fitting an electric bike into my life before a car. I can see myself riding one for a little romp on a midweek afternoon or to commute back and forth with. I mean, I like all bikes and electric is included in that, but nothing will ever replace the sound of 16 valves screaming at 12k rpm through a 4-1 akra system. We have truly peaked...
If you are perhaps wondering,check out isle of man zero race,even electric bikes from 2012 are doing some serious speeds
I think for short rips they'd be fine, .. and even fun, but I wouldn't want to strike out across Canada on one.
I'm not a motorcyclist. Ive riding a few Harleys but ehh? Having a electric bike sounds great to me. I can hop on it any given time and go for a short cruise around town. Not to have to much maintenance is a plus too. I really like the Zero brand bikes but l love Ducatis. However l couldn't find the one you mentioned in your video 😒
I really want a Prius motorcycle. like a 300-500cc ADV hybrid that you could use as a 1-5kw generator would be amazing. if it had an E-CVT it would have great low end torque, even out a of buzzy high HP engine. could probably use a 12v conventional battery with a super capacitor as a traction battery to keep maintenance costs low.
4 some reason I am compelled to watch YammieNoob.
I get 65 mph so I'm not worried yet I don't think a electric motorcycle is worth it at the moment
i can go faster than that. I sure hope you mean mpg. Because if not, your bike sucks ass
@@Amnpaterson no the bike gets 90 mpg but I don't really care about top speed the new bike I'm getting will be a bit more powerful
I want that Ducati Scrambler at the end of the video but electric. 🤤
Love that we glossed over the Livewire, lol. I'm up for an e-bike for sure, just waiting for the charge times to be faster.
Im 13, and i want the rs f for when i grow up. I always have wanted an electric bike, since that gas maintenance is just so complicated
Also thank you for converting the kilowatt per hour to HP. That will actually help a lot of people understand the power.
We need electric motorcycle with: hub motor for very low maintenance, over 10 kwh battery with ccs fast charge in about 20 min (same speed as some electric cars) and lower than 5k price and over 20kw of power.
I just need an electric motorcycle that looks like a classic, standard, and/or cafe racer styles. Plus where's my side car for an electric motorcycle.
Review the livewire
Have you looked at the evoke 6061? If that bike can hit the specs their claiming (like a muscle cruiser with a 15 minute charge time) it’ll be game changing! And it’s cheaper than the live wire!
Theres a really good electric bike startup here in India, ultraviolette might pick it up as my personal motorcycle.
Like electric cars, they are great for commuting and shorter rides, but for long trips, be prepared to be patient and wait for charging
Why were you worried about making it back to the shop? Because there was no place to charge. You can have a motorcycle with small gas tank as well, but gas stations are everywhere. This is the single biggest reason Tesla is doing well, they built the infrastructure. You can drive a Tesla easily across the country now, but not electric bikes as they can not use Tesla chargers and there are not enough of the charging stations.
Electric bikes are SO fun! Would buy if it was around the same price as a normal bike.