Okay -- few things I should probably address 1 - No, I do not support towers in the battlepass even though I criticized the way icebreaker will be obtained. I think solo specifically is too alienating. 2 - My opinions around skin quality are 100% subjective. That being said, I wish I rephrased talking about the Christmas battlepass. I wish we had more "Winter" adjacent skins rather than just Christmas. 3 - Im aware john has said 1 path is a thing for event towers, Im still not a fan.
I think what John had going for how the towers are obtained this event is pretty good, of course the solo nightmare mode should not be the way to get the ice breaker tower I believe that having the event towers split between the actual event and the battle pass is a good idea as keeping strong towers like zed relic and cryo heli in the later levels of their respective bp which require grinding, while the grinding might get repetitive and tedious the reward feels much more grander than just beating the event once and getting such a strong towers to for basically minimal work by beating the events as taken for example for chapter 4 of the Halloween event, nightmare mode wasn’t extremely difficult and giving the relic for beating nightmare chapter 4 doesn’t seem like a good idea for a chapter that wasn’t very difficult, although I do have to keep in mind that chapter 4 wasn’t done completely to the developers expectations which does alter the difficulty of the actual chapter it’s still a good example as to why some specifically the strong towers should be kept as one of the last rewards in the bp while still having at least 1 tower in the actual event. Edit: fixed some minor spelling mistakes.
Idk man 2 paths rlly dont matter bc one will always be meta, so its better and more simple to just do 1 path, like wth is 2nd path of cryo heli gonna be? More aoe? That'll make it the more meta path and people will only choose that path then, or it wouldn't be a difference at all, ruining the whole point
@@gaaraxiong look at cryo blaster, both paths are commonly used, gold jugg, both commonly used, warship, both commonly used. While I agree not every tower is like this, there are def towers that both paths are used commonly.
@AuthenticSaltz You got a point, I'm talking about event towers, give me example of a event tower that could have a good potential for 2nd path and why
Yall need to stop complaining about event towers being one path, John said all event will be one path and only cryo ranger has two paths because he couldn’t support one path at the time.
I'm gonna have to agree, event towers were never meant to have 2-paths to begin with, I also would argue it's better to have 1 path so if a player missed out on it, it wouldn't be as damaging if the tower had more content (being 2 paths.)
Couldn’t they just made Cryo Ranger only be able to be upgraded to a 5-2 so it technically only has one path, but it bypasses the issue of not being able to support only one path in the UI & code at the time?
I have to say, THANK THE ALL FATHER FOR MATCHMAKING. I always get paired with players at my level and capability and thanks to them I have routinely beat Nightmare.
they may have changed the requirements for the second event tower, in the discord announcement it states that it needs to be solo but in the ingame announcements it states that you only need to beat night 1 and 2 nightmare.
@AuthenticSaltz yea, I like the idea of a task more then "beat the mode". Maybe it would be cool if it was like "beat nightmare with every player only X" or some form of restriction.
Yeah I really liked it. There should be more towers earned like this in general. Imagine if the golden towers, onstead of needing a kidney to be bought, had an achievement like beat a certain number of expert maps instead. I really hope the challenge achievement system stays for normal TDX so there's more stufff to do for coins.
i honestly absolutley hate it mainly because TDX is a grindy mess and having to beat nightamare solo just means you are forced to have the best stuff in the game wich can cost many kindnesy worth of gold and the game is generaly not fun to play and having to grind mindlesly makes it even worse if some one found TDX today or more recently i dont think they have a chance in hell to get Ice breaker unless they just spend time only grinding
Actually, the point where you said the icebreaker tower shouldn't be obtained by soloing both nm modes is quite flawed. For example, my friend has an extremely busy Christmas this year, so he might not even obtain cyro heli because of the bp requirements, but he has good towers and is a good player, which basically guarantees him at least getting icrbreaker for this event. Plus, people have been asking for an event tower that isn't locked behind the bp for both the tb event and the Halloween event, and when the devs finally made one that is obtainable without being in the bp, people complain about it, like bruh.
Honestly you missed some more good things about the event. The loadout selection for normal is just a nice feature to allow new players to actually play the event and learn about the game. The wave design and map are great in creating a cramped, dual lane pretty fun. Mainly because of the Snow Capw’ns, Gangsters, and Cyro Rangers applying pressure to your towers. So now you have a real risk vs reward of placing splash towers near the front where they get the most value. You didn’t give Xenon enough credit, she really created a great idea of the little shit that Xenon is and how she knows ( And I mean that in the most loving way possible).
I mean sure he didnt inculde those positive extrimely minor things but the point of the video was to point out things that are notable to him and to point out the are not great in his oppinion. And at the end of the day he has some good points.
I have no problem having to beat both events solo it’s better than grinding for hours. I think it will give a breather to players since they don’t have to grind so much battlepass
This critism video is based on your opinion and not "most players opinion" an example is the fact how icebreaker is obtained, evryone asked for a sepperate way to get an event tower so please just don't botherr with criticising on tdx based on "other people their opinion"
Generally event towers would be great to have 2 paths. Even though it's not the opinion of all players, you can ask many people in the lobby for theirs, not only yours, which he may do before making this
Funny thing is that some, I don't know how many, do agree with what he's mentioning in the video. And I gotta say that the suggestions he's giving in the video would make it better.
bro stop complaining about one path towers just like what jacobnoob said JOHN SAID EVENT TOWERS ONLY HAVE ONE PATH, also one path towers arent even that bad of an idea it makes them more unique than 2 path towers since there 1 path and have different use cases. Cyro ranger only has 1 path because like jacobnoob said THEY COULDNT SUPPORT ONE PATH TOWERS and also the event is rushed and john literally said to use both cryo heli and frost blaster thats why you have 6 slots.
This statement may get some hate but its what I believe. Johns word is not law, if I disagree with him on something (like 1 path event towers) I will voice that criticism. Just because John says "Event towers get one path" doesn't mean I have to completely agree with that. If your cool with one path event towers that's fine but its something I wanna voice my opinion on.
@Fazuyr because everything else has two paths, which ends up making the one path towers a lot more boring, with less variety, less strategic uses and it makes it feel less unique and more "you'll use this once to test it out and never again".
2:18 halloween skins had much variety because some have been obviously halloween item themed, and others were halloween costume themed like cardboard, enemy/tower costumes.
@AuthenticSaltz the point is that the Halloween skins had the same theme, and adding something like tds done with their dark crystal skins, mixed with Christmas ones is amazing! They could do Christmas robot skins
Ginger d.r.e.a.d is such a cool boss ı really love it the name play its actually being a disguised war machine just like exo santa ı hope we see more bosses like this at future christmas events ı really enjoy twists of tdx on the traditional ideas ı enjoyed chapter 1 but ı still dislike battlepass system to the core specially towers behind it xmas 2023 was my favorite event reward obtaining wise easy mode gave the tower and one random skin of existing ones while nightmare gave another exclusive skin ı feel like this concept is just better than whole battlepass system it takes way less to finish its much more fun since you actually get one new thing per victory and its much faster either this or being able to use event currency on a event shop so you pick what you want to buy rather than going through all previous items for to recevie the only one you want
@@TotallyNotSnowy.its so that its not just some boring event where you beat it once then never touch it again, now i agree that lot of the tiers are just useless things like gold and xp but i think the BP was a great addition
@@TotallyNotSnowy. pretty sure they're focusing on nightmare and other things while also doing the event, the events are usually just here to keep the game from going stale while they focus on other things
John has already stated the cryo ranger was 2 path because 1 path functionally was not possible with how little time they had Regardless of solo or not ( which by the way the in game update log does not say solo ) people will use strats regardless, the only way to undermine this is true RNG which is arguably worse
Getting mad that the Christmas battle pass is Christmas skins is also crazy Your also getting mad for icebreaker being solo to be able to drag out playtime but nothing about the battlepass filler
@@lolx_dlol3274hes not mad that its just christmas skins, hes disappointed that its only christmas skins, and no other skins that fit genres outside of the holiday genre
When i heard John mention in his video that you have to solo both parts on nightmare, it made me wonder about 2 possibilities, the first was can i just go and do nightmare solo now no problem and then do part 2 later when it comes out or when part 2 comes out i have to do nightmare solo part 1 again, because if so then it would kind of suck since there is a chance that whatever strat you used now could become outdated or obsolete when part 2 is released because part 1 got buffed, which would create some problems for those who haven't grinded that much or only recently got to the point where they could try, but i mean it could encourage the trial and error idea, although it might discourage some because of its difficulty and what the player has at their disposal at the time.( something similar to this happened on Chapter 2 nightmare during the Halloween event although it wasn't that big of a problem since you didn't really need to get the badge for it or grind the chapter for tokens because of the release of chapter 3 and 4) And the second being the chance that the requirements would change from being required to solo part 1 and 2 nightmare to just needing to beat part 1 and 2 nightmare, where it's up to you if you want to solo or not, the reason why i believe there is a chance is because of the badges for the event, where there is no mention of a solo badge and the changelogs which tell you to just beat part 1 and part 2 nightmare with no mention of having to solo it. I hope this one would turn out to be true because i dont know if golden ranger could carry this one, and also so it wont be as much of a pain to do.
to be fair about the skins, skins like the cardboard series and SORT OF plague doc medic were a cosplayer theming which fits with the theme of dressing up for halloween thus making them halloween skins in a way, not sure if you could make the same argument for patriotic since i think its a helldivers reference skin but im not 100% sure
Yeah thats fair, I wish some of the christmas skins were more "Winter" Adjacent rather than just strictly Christmas. Then again, Skin opinions are subjective lol so everyone's entitled to their own thoughts on that.
@AuthenticSaltz yea they could be more thematic, kinda like TDS' current frost legion series, but hey as long as the skins r dope can't really ask for more than that
This video is 90% complaining about superfluous problems only you have 10% actually talking about the event. For example, a genuine criticism I would give is "the base cryo blaster is pretty poor without the support of other cryo towers or powerups" not "please give us more exclusive gatekeepable content by giving 2 paths to a cool tower that's gonna be unobtainable in 2 months". Also, while I agree with the comment that this map had good gameplay, you also got entirely distracted from the other big steps forward this event has made. Quests are genuinely super useful for grinding the battle pass. Cutscenes are a huge advancement for the game. Similarly, matchmaking is super useful. Also, can you stop talking like that in some of your videos? While your more analytical and formal tone works for things like breaking down boss fights, when it comes to things that are more about your opinion, it comes across as arrogant. I saw a comment pointing out how you don't speak for the whole community, and while I don't think you were trying to, its hard to not get that impression with the way you talk. Just be a smidge less formal, you know? (Also stop finishing your videos with " in conclusion," its not a history essay its a tdx video ) Sorry if I'm coming across as a bit mean, its just this video came off a bit negative and problem-focused for something that was supposedly an overview of the entire event. I do like a lot of your content, keep it up.
Hey man I appreciate the criticism! Takes balls to do that. To address your comment -- I for the life of me just cant stand one path towers in a game like TDX where 2 path towers are a major draw. While I get that event towers can be seen as gatekept, I don't think that's a reason to make them any less awesome. As for cutscenes -- I agree they're awesome, Super good thing for TDX, that being said I was waiting till part 2 cause they are (probably) gonna have more) Quests tbh I think are a bit too generic, Im considering making a video on them. Matchmaking I like but it def. has some kinks. Its not compatible with certain platforms like console which is a major drawback. This event was awesome for TDX and I really do like it. As for the motnone voice things its just something of me doing the "RUclipsr" voice lol, I speak monotone when I record. My opinions on stuff like quality on skins are 100% subjective In conclusion, I like using In conclusion lol. Thanks for the feedback! :)
I think the whole reason of forcing the completions to be solo rather than with friends is so that randoms don't get carried by people much more emperienced than them and get the tower in a way that doesn't really feel earned, and also that solo is objectively harder with less towers and more micromanaging. Granted pre-made strats exist and they would kind of ruin the feeling of "earning" the tower, but 1. That's kind of a problem with TD games in general because each individual attempt takes so long, people would rather skip the trial and error and just focus on doing a strat right. 2. Having to beat both parts on nightmare solo still tests their skill more than if they played with their buddies and had them do most of the hard work.
@@AuthenticSaltz But the point you said in the video is about playing with friends, so why would bad randoms matter to those same people? Bad randoms would just encourage players to play solo anyways if their friends are not available.
My Idea for a bottom path cryocopter is basically To have it fire Ice Rockets. You heard Me, ICE ROCKETS!! GLACIAL EXPLOSIVES, IGNORING CRYO RESISTANCE- wait, this is powercreep.
@@AuthenticSaltz I remember that John R. said on the dev stream that:cryo ranger was supposed to have 1 path but we couldn't employment that at the time or smt
Whenever I say I disagree with the 1 path event towers a lot of people tend to say I should stop complaining about it as it's John's game design choice. Gotta say it's disappointing seeing a major part of the community just accepting that one of tdx's core aspects is being taken away for event towers just because it's John's choice. Lastly, wasted potential as mentioned in the video. They could've easily come up with some really cool second paths for these towers, and I'm sure people would appreciate 2 path event towers a lot more than 1 path event towers. I hope developers see your video and take it seriously!
Thanks bro! While I get john owns TDX and likely has the final say in matters like this, I think we should still voice criticism. We shouldn't be yesmen.
theres literally no point about complaining about 1 path towers its something that make EVENT towers UNIQUE and makes them DIFFERENT from store towers like jug they are more well rounded and simple and once again there are 6 tower slots use them, we need more 1 path towers to see if this is actually a bad thing or not because right now people are complaining about nothing meaningful.
I don't know just yet but i think the devs probably prepared something for us in assistant to play solo in chapter 2 just like the 4 Railguns around the GDA base in the previous event or a completely new mechanic for players to take advantage of. That's merely a theory, a TDX theory☝️
Completely agree with you. Can guarantee you most of these people in the comment section never played a td game outside of Roblox. Having one tower path removes the strategic aspect of multiple paths, as well as making it more boring.
This is the type of constructive criticism we need. good job. (also thank you for not being like all those other people and comparing the cutscene quality to tds and saying "TDS should be ashamed of themselves they have a bigger dev team!!1!!. It really annoys me when people do stuff like that).
no its not complaining about limited time holiday skins and 1 path event towers is constructive criticism we do not need it is just pointless and hes going to go nowhere with this.
Needing to beat both 1 and 2 nightmare solo set a high bar for this tower. I hope they cook and make him good and FUN. And not abysmal dogshit that get sent to the line of things to be reworked/revamped. Also why the snow capwne, mobster, and gangster look better than the tower we got
I am glad you brought up the Ice Breaker issue. The method of obtaining it is genuinely so unintuitive that I am shocked how people on the tdx server do not see the problem when I did try to bring it up. Beating nightmare mode in general should be enough..
@@goofergoofeygoofballt thats exactly what everyone says for some reason. but let's think back to the previous nightmare mode in xmas 2023. you could get the reward without needing to win solo. do you guys seriously not realize that this new method discourages multiplayer and makes this more of a chore than anything?
Personally disliked the halloween battlepass giving out skins that weren't halloween. I was excited for skins for that time of the year but and having some just not be themed around it was just dissapointing for me to see. This is just my personal opinion however, I like that this christmas event has skins themed around christmas itself.
@AuthenticSaltz That's fair, I saw the pinned comment and I agree with your point of there being more skins that aren't purely based on said holiday. Though when patriotic g jugg came in the hw battlepass I really wasn't a fan of it since it had nothing to do with hw itself. Though if I remember correctly they added it cause they couldn't make it in time for 4th of july.. Still would've rather had it saved for next one or something.
@@AuthenticSaltz It seems like such an unachievable goal for like 80% of the tdx community. The icebreaker has to be a godlike unit to even half justify it.
The event towers being 1 path is a design choice, so I respect it but I would like it better if they were 2 paths for more reasons to use the tower also you should talked about the good more because because of the title
Honestly i dont really have any problems beating nightmare solo after getting traumatized by skill issue players. I also tried match making and they kinda suck im lvl 130+ so i dont have anyproblems of doing solo and soloing both nightmare sounds like a fun challenge for me since I create my own strats
@@AuthenticSaltz Absolutely. Keep it for future events or just let people earn gold that way. What challenges do you think could be added? Aside from beating a certain map at a certain difficulty or beating a certain boss, maybe beating a certain difficulty with only certain towers, or a certain number of towers? Like "beat elite mode in 3 towers or less" or something.
great video saltz while I do agree with you about the two paths on event towers I wouldn't go as far as saying its "needed" and about ice breaker I absolutely agree with you about how forcing the players to do both parts on nightmare solo is absolutely absurd I get john wants to put challenge, but this is just annoying making casual players and completionist annoyed to the point they'll go to strats id like if they put it to duo instead of solo
If i may speak I think John made a mistake in the Discord message he put out in the server as in both the ingame update log and in his vidoe he states that to obtain the Ice Breaker tower you only need to beat both Parts on Nightmare but not Solo Nightmare SO yah me thinks John made an oopsie in discord message but im repeating myself
I think there should be a few skins, maybe 1/3rd of them, that are different, just to give them some relevance over time. A skin can also be winter themed and still not just Christmas. I like the skins a lot, but they do need variety.
Okay -- few things I should probably address
1 - No, I do not support towers in the battlepass even though I criticized the way icebreaker will be obtained. I think solo specifically is too alienating.
2 - My opinions around skin quality are 100% subjective. That being said, I wish I rephrased talking about the Christmas battlepass. I wish we had more "Winter" adjacent skins rather than just Christmas.
3 - Im aware john has said 1 path is a thing for event towers, Im still not a fan.
John says it makes the towers unique. One thing though, different isn't always better
I think what John had going for how the towers are obtained this event is pretty good, of course the solo nightmare mode should not be the way to get the ice breaker tower I believe that having the event towers split between the actual event and the battle pass is a good idea as keeping strong towers like zed relic and cryo heli in the later levels of their respective bp which require grinding, while the grinding might get repetitive and tedious the reward feels much more grander than just beating the event once and getting such a strong towers to for basically minimal work by beating the events as taken for example for chapter 4 of the Halloween event, nightmare mode wasn’t extremely difficult and giving the relic for beating nightmare chapter 4 doesn’t seem like a good idea for a chapter that wasn’t very difficult, although I do have to keep in mind that chapter 4 wasn’t done completely to the developers expectations which does alter the difficulty of the actual chapter it’s still a good example as to why some specifically the strong towers should be kept as one of the last rewards in the bp while still having at least 1 tower in the actual event.
Edit: fixed some minor spelling mistakes.
Idk man 2 paths rlly dont matter bc one will always be meta, so its better and more simple to just do 1 path, like wth is 2nd path of cryo heli gonna be? More aoe? That'll make it the more meta path and people will only choose that path then, or it wouldn't be a difference at all, ruining the whole point
@@gaaraxiong look at cryo blaster, both paths are commonly used, gold jugg, both commonly used, warship, both commonly used. While I agree not every tower is like this, there are def towers that both paths are used commonly.
@AuthenticSaltz You got a point, I'm talking about event towers, give me example of a event tower that could have a good potential for 2nd path and why
Yall need to stop complaining about event towers being one path, John said all event will be one path and only cryo ranger has two paths because he couldn’t support one path at the time.
I'm gonna have to agree, event towers were never meant to have 2-paths to begin with, I also would argue it's better to have 1 path so if a player missed out on it, it wouldn't be as damaging if the tower had more content (being 2 paths.)
So that’s why cryo ranger sucks in one of the paths
yes 🙏
Couldn’t they just made Cryo Ranger only be able to be upgraded to a 5-2 so it technically only has one path, but it bypasses the issue of not being able to support only one path in the UI & code at the time?
Never let bro cook in the kitchen ever again
I have to say, THANK THE ALL FATHER FOR MATCHMAKING.
I always get paired with players at my level and capability and thanks to them I have routinely beat Nightmare.
Same, nightmare has been a breeze thanks to match making
I havent tried too much matchmaking, Glad it works well though!
Bro cooked.
8 didn’t even notice john said “solo” it really needs changing
they may have changed the requirements for the second event tower, in the discord announcement it states that it needs to be solo but in the ingame announcements it states that you only need to beat night 1 and 2 nightmare.
I like how ice breaker is obtained. Its less grindy then battle pass, and is a challenge and not just "beat the mode".
I 100% agree with the notion of event towers not being in the BP. I think solo is overtly too strict though as it alienates players.
@AuthenticSaltz yea, I like the idea of a task more then "beat the mode". Maybe it would be cool if it was like "beat nightmare with every player only X" or some form of restriction.
I agree with you, though it shouldnt force you to go solo
Yeah I really liked it. There should be more towers earned like this in general. Imagine if the golden towers, onstead of needing a kidney to be bought, had an achievement like beat a certain number of expert maps instead. I really hope the challenge achievement system stays for normal TDX so there's more stufff to do for coins.
i honestly absolutley hate it
mainly because TDX is a grindy mess and having to beat nightamare solo just means you are forced to have the best stuff in the game wich can cost many kindnesy worth of gold and the game is generaly not fun to play and having to grind mindlesly makes it even worse
if some one found TDX today or more recently i dont think they have a chance in hell to get Ice breaker unless they just spend time only grinding
everybody gansta till Snow Gansta arrives
Actually, the point where you said the icebreaker tower shouldn't be obtained by soloing both nm modes is quite flawed.
For example, my friend has an extremely busy Christmas this year, so he might not even obtain cyro heli because of the bp requirements, but he has good towers and is a good player, which basically guarantees him at least getting icrbreaker for this event.
Plus, people have been asking for an event tower that isn't locked behind the bp for both the tb event and the Halloween event, and when the devs finally made one that is obtainable without being in the bp, people complain about it, like bruh.
I wasnt defending towers in battlepasses, I just think solo specifically alienates certain players.
@@AuthenticSaltz yeah i can agree solo its to hard for inter player, but there are many strat that use cheap tower
Honestly you missed some more good things about the event.
The loadout selection for normal is just a nice feature to allow new players to actually play the event and learn about the game.
The wave design and map are great in creating a cramped, dual lane pretty fun. Mainly because of the Snow Capw’ns, Gangsters, and Cyro Rangers applying pressure to your towers. So now you have a real risk vs reward of placing splash towers near the front where they get the most value.
You didn’t give Xenon enough credit, she really created a great idea of the little shit that Xenon is and how she knows ( And I mean that in the most loving way possible).
I mean sure he didnt inculde those positive extrimely minor things but the point of the video was to point out things that are notable to him and to point out the are not great in his oppinion. And at the end of the day he has some good points.
It's still weird that there's a vip exclusive preset loadout.....
They were great!
I have no problem having to beat both events solo it’s better than grinding for hours.
I think it will give a breather to players since they don’t have to grind so much battlepass
Im against event towers in battlepasses -- just forcing solo is stupid cause it alienates.
This critism video is based on your opinion and not "most players opinion" an example is the fact how icebreaker is obtained, evryone asked for a sepperate way to get an event tower so please just don't botherr with criticising on tdx based on "other people their opinion"
Generally event towers would be great to have 2 paths. Even though it's not the opinion of all players, you can ask many people in the lobby for theirs, not only yours, which he may do before making this
I dont speak for everyone. Im voicing my opinions.
Funny thing is that some, I don't know how many, do agree with what he's mentioning in the video. And I gotta say that the suggestions he's giving in the video would make it better.
bro stop complaining about one path towers just like what jacobnoob said JOHN SAID EVENT TOWERS ONLY HAVE ONE PATH, also one path towers arent even that bad of an idea it makes them more unique than 2 path towers since there 1 path and have different use cases. Cyro ranger only has 1 path because like jacobnoob said THEY COULDNT SUPPORT ONE PATH TOWERS and also the event is rushed and john literally said to use both cryo heli and frost blaster thats why you have 6 slots.
This statement may get some hate but its what I believe. Johns word is not law, if I disagree with him on something (like 1 path event towers) I will voice that criticism. Just because John says "Event towers get one path" doesn't mean I have to completely agree with that. If your cool with one path event towers that's fine but its something I wanna voice my opinion on.
Yeah, i mean, we've been playing with one-path towers for like 5-7 years (TDS and TB). Why is it a problem now?
@Fazuyr because everything else has two paths, which ends up making the one path towers a lot more boring, with less variety, less strategic uses and it makes it feel less unique and more "you'll use this once to test it out and never again".
@@Fazuyrstrange how neither of those games are good either🧐🧐
@Iibraryofruina Ok calm down I do like tdx more than tds and TB but they are not bad TD games.
I will always appreciate what saltz says at the end of his vids keep up the good work
2:18 halloween skins had much variety because some have been obviously halloween item themed, and others were halloween costume themed like cardboard, enemy/tower costumes.
yeah, wish they did something similar to that w/ christmas
@AuthenticSaltz the point is that the Halloween skins had the same theme, and adding something like tds done with their dark crystal skins, mixed with Christmas ones is amazing! They could do Christmas robot skins
Ginger d.r.e.a.d is such a cool boss ı really love it the name play its actually being a disguised war machine just like exo santa ı hope we see more bosses like this at future christmas events ı really enjoy twists of tdx on the traditional ideas ı enjoyed chapter 1 but ı still dislike battlepass system to the core specially towers behind it xmas 2023 was my favorite event reward obtaining wise easy mode gave the tower and one random skin of existing ones while nightmare gave another exclusive skin ı feel like this concept is just better than whole battlepass system it takes way less to finish its much more fun since you actually get one new thing per victory and its much faster either this or being able to use event currency on a event shop so you pick what you want to buy rather than going through all previous items for to recevie the only one you want
Yea i hate going through every tier just to try get 1 item
@@TotallyNotSnowy.its so that its not just some boring event where you beat it once then never touch it again, now i agree that lot of the tiers are just useless things like gold and xp but i think the BP was a great addition
@DubboArchives tbh besides the event they should focus on the current modes not releasing new towers.....
@@TotallyNotSnowy. pretty sure they're focusing on nightmare and other things while also doing the event, the events are usually just here to keep the game from going stale while they focus on other things
John has already stated the cryo ranger was 2 path because 1 path functionally was not possible with how little time they had
Regardless of solo or not ( which by the way the in game update log does not say solo ) people will use strats regardless, the only way to undermine this is true RNG which is arguably worse
Getting mad that the Christmas battle pass is Christmas skins is also crazy
Your also getting mad for icebreaker being solo to be able to drag out playtime but nothing about the battlepass filler
@@lolx_dlol3274hes not mad that its just christmas skins, hes disappointed that its only christmas skins, and no other skins that fit genres outside of the holiday genre
@@lolx_dlol3274 Wouldnt say im mad. Im just voicing criticism I have.
When i heard John mention in his video that you have to solo both parts on nightmare, it made me wonder about 2 possibilities, the first was can i just go and do nightmare solo now no problem and then do part 2 later when it comes out or when part 2 comes out i have to do nightmare solo part 1 again, because if so then it would kind of suck since there is a chance that whatever strat you used now could become outdated or obsolete when part 2 is released because part 1 got buffed, which would create some problems for those who haven't grinded that much or only recently got to the point where they could try, but i mean it could encourage the trial and error idea, although it might discourage some because of its difficulty and what the player has at their disposal at the time.( something similar to this happened on Chapter 2 nightmare during the Halloween event although it wasn't that big of a problem since you didn't really need to get the badge for it or grind the chapter for tokens because of the release of chapter 3 and 4)
And the second being the chance that the requirements would change from being required to solo part 1 and 2 nightmare to just needing to beat part 1 and 2 nightmare, where it's up to you if you want to solo or not, the reason why i believe there is a chance is because of the badges for the event, where there is no mention of a solo badge and the changelogs which tell you to just beat part 1 and part 2 nightmare with no mention of having to solo it. I hope this one would turn out to be true because i dont know if golden ranger could carry this one, and also so it wont be as much of a pain to do.
Dam, i think i made this way too long
@@snowcube_steel Hey I appreciate you sharing your opinion!
Getting mad that the CHRISTMAS battle pass only has CHRISTMAS skins is stupid
In all honesty, I should have expanded more on my point. I wish they did more "Winter Adjacent" rather than just "Christmas"
@@AuthenticSaltzLike snowman skins or heck a snow cone stand farm
@@maxdong3514 yes!
Wish the event towers had 2 paths like Cryo Ranger.
the snow gangsta enemy is probably my favourite
hes goated
Resurrected Mobster
to be fair about the skins, skins like the cardboard series and SORT OF plague doc medic were a cosplayer theming which fits with the theme of dressing up for halloween thus making them halloween skins in a way, not sure if you could make the same argument for patriotic since i think its a helldivers reference skin but im not 100% sure
Yeah thats fair, I wish some of the christmas skins were more "Winter" Adjacent rather than just strictly Christmas. Then again, Skin opinions are subjective lol so everyone's entitled to their own thoughts on that.
@AuthenticSaltz yea they could be more thematic, kinda like TDS' current frost legion series, but hey as long as the skins r dope can't really ask for more than that
This video is 90% complaining about superfluous problems only you have 10% actually talking about the event. For example, a genuine criticism I would give is "the base cryo blaster is pretty poor without the support of other cryo towers or powerups" not "please give us more exclusive gatekeepable content by giving 2 paths to a cool tower that's gonna be unobtainable in 2 months". Also, while I agree with the comment that this map had good gameplay, you also got entirely distracted from the other big steps forward this event has made. Quests are genuinely super useful for grinding the battle pass. Cutscenes are a huge advancement for the game. Similarly, matchmaking is super useful.
Also, can you stop talking like that in some of your videos? While your more analytical and formal tone works for things like breaking down boss fights, when it comes to things that are more about your opinion, it comes across as arrogant. I saw a comment pointing out how you don't speak for the whole community, and while I don't think you were trying to, its hard to not get that impression with the way you talk. Just be a smidge less formal, you know? (Also stop finishing your videos with " in conclusion," its not a history essay its a tdx video )
Sorry if I'm coming across as a bit mean, its just this video came off a bit negative and problem-focused for something that was supposedly an overview of the entire event. I do like a lot of your content, keep it up.
Hey man I appreciate the criticism! Takes balls to do that.
To address your comment -- I for the life of me just cant stand one path towers in a game like TDX where 2 path towers are a major draw. While I get that event towers can be seen as gatekept, I don't think that's a reason to make them any less awesome.
As for cutscenes -- I agree they're awesome, Super good thing for TDX, that being said I was waiting till part 2 cause they are (probably) gonna have more)
Quests tbh I think are a bit too generic, Im considering making a video on them.
Matchmaking I like but it def. has some kinks. Its not compatible with certain platforms like console which is a major drawback. This event was awesome for TDX and I really do like it.
As for the motnone voice things its just something of me doing the "RUclipsr" voice lol, I speak monotone when I record.
My opinions on stuff like quality on skins are 100% subjective
In conclusion, I like using In conclusion lol.
Thanks for the feedback! :)
Why am i the only person who noticed Halloween soundtrack in Xmas event?
yeah i was also like "this is familiar"
I agree with cryo helis issues and also Snow Gangsta funni!!
Thanks to matchmaking. I finally beaten nightmare mode.
3:01 please be a joke
When the ragebatier felt true fear
I think the whole reason of forcing the completions to be solo rather than with friends is so that randoms don't get carried by people much more emperienced than them and get the tower in a way that doesn't really feel earned, and also that solo is objectively harder with less towers and more micromanaging.
Granted pre-made strats exist and they would kind of ruin the feeling of "earning" the tower, but
1. That's kind of a problem with TD games in general because each individual attempt takes so long, people would rather skip the trial and error and just focus on doing a strat right.
2. Having to beat both parts on nightmare solo still tests their skill more than if they played with their buddies and had them do most of the hard work.
I agree with some of your points but I would argue that 4 player can to some extent be more difficult in other ways. (Bad randoms, Harder Econ, etc)
@@AuthenticSaltz But the point you said in the video is about playing with friends, so why would bad randoms matter to those same people?
Bad randoms would just encourage players to play solo anyways if their friends are not available.
@@CarterLam1014 I cited playing with friends as a reason, not the one all be all.
They put me behind a paywall chat
This grandma looking tower better be worth that cause if it isn’t I’m just not gonna attempt solo on nightmare
You just reminded me that it said we had to beat nightmare solo to get ice breaker 😭
your welcome nol
My Idea for a bottom path cryocopter is basically To have it fire Ice Rockets.
You heard Me, ICE ROCKETS!!
GLACIAL EXPLOSIVES, IGNORING CRYO RESISTANCE-
wait, this is powercreep.
0:27 cryo ranger set a what now? it might as well have one path since NOBODY has used the bottom path.
Precedent. But why only one? Why limit content that would be (relatively) simple to make
@@AuthenticSaltz I remember that John R. said on the dev stream that:cryo ranger was supposed to have 1 path but we couldn't employment that at the time or smt
Whenever I say I disagree with the 1 path event towers a lot of people tend to say I should stop complaining about it as it's John's game design choice. Gotta say it's disappointing seeing a major part of the community just accepting that one of tdx's core aspects is being taken away for event towers just because it's John's choice. Lastly, wasted potential as mentioned in the video. They could've easily come up with some really cool second paths for these towers, and I'm sure people would appreciate 2 path event towers a lot more than 1 path event towers.
I hope developers see your video and take it seriously!
Thanks bro!
While I get john owns TDX and likely has the final say in matters like this, I think we should still voice criticism. We shouldn't be yesmen.
theres literally no point about complaining about 1 path towers its something that make EVENT towers UNIQUE and makes them DIFFERENT from store towers like jug they are more well rounded and simple and once again there are 6 tower slots use them, we need more 1 path towers to see if this is actually a bad thing or not because right now people are complaining about nothing meaningful.
IF we gotta do both chapters solo on nightmare,icebreaker MUST be worth the struggles we going to put in it or else it gonna be another cryo ranger
I don't know just yet but i think the devs probably prepared something for us in assistant to play solo in chapter 2 just like the 4 Railguns around the GDA base in the previous event or a completely new mechanic for players to take advantage of. That's merely a theory, a TDX theory☝️
Im kinda disappointed with you in this video
They should also update the "quick play" gamemode because you can only play the Christmas event.
Completely agree with you. Can guarantee you most of these people in the comment section never played a td game outside of Roblox. Having one tower path removes the strategic aspect of multiple paths, as well as making it more boring.
While i don't agree with every point i still agree with you that we should get two path event towers but oh well. Great video tho ❤
This is the type of constructive criticism we need.
good job.
(also thank you for not being like all those other people and comparing the cutscene quality to tds and saying "TDS should be ashamed of themselves they have a bigger dev team!!1!!. It really annoys me when people do stuff like that).
no its not complaining about limited time holiday skins and 1 path event towers is constructive criticism we do not need it is just pointless and hes going to go nowhere with this.
Needing to beat both 1 and 2 nightmare solo set a high bar for this tower. I hope they cook and make him good and FUN. And not abysmal dogshit that get sent to the line of things to be reworked/revamped. Also why the snow capwne, mobster, and gangster look better than the tower we got
So… we aren’t complaining about the power creep aspect of nightmare????
I am glad you brought up the Ice Breaker issue. The method of obtaining it is genuinely so unintuitive that I am shocked how people on the tdx server do not see the problem when I did try to bring it up. Beating nightmare mode in general should be enough..
at that point just put it in the battlepass.
-towers locked in bp
-complain about it takes forever to grind for
-make tower obtainable through challenge
-complains again
@@goofergoofeygoofballt thats exactly what everyone says for some reason. but let's think back to the previous nightmare mode in xmas 2023. you could get the reward without needing to win solo. do you guys seriously not realize that this new method discourages multiplayer and makes this more of a chore than anything?
@@ZombPlayyzencourage skills
Personally disliked the halloween battlepass giving out skins that weren't halloween. I was excited for skins for that time of the year but and having some just not be themed around it was just dissapointing for me to see. This is just my personal opinion however, I like that this christmas event has skins themed around christmas itself.
yeah my opinion on skins is 100% subjective lol.. Just what I think since I prefer a diverse roster
@AuthenticSaltz That's fair, I saw the pinned comment and I agree with your point of there being more skins that aren't purely based on said holiday. Though when patriotic g jugg came in the hw battlepass I really wasn't a fan of it since it had nothing to do with hw itself. Though if I remember correctly they added it cause they couldn't make it in time for 4th of july.. Still would've rather had it saved for next one or something.
He wasn't serious about the whole beating both nightmares solo. Right?
@@Everyonesfavouriteangel I hope he wasn't but him leaving it in a professional message in the announcements channel is uh... Interesting
@@AuthenticSaltz It seems like such an unachievable goal for like 80% of the tdx community. The icebreaker has to be a godlike unit to even half justify it.
i hate the fact they cant make 2 path event towers i really got disapointed when i found out cryo heli has only 1 path
the battlepass issue is making the “free” towers cost so many tokens, skins mean nothing, all rubbish you have to grind through for the “free” towers
New mic? I like it! Great vid! :D
WHO ARE YOU? WHAT DID YOU DO WITH SALTZ?
its me! Saltz!
new mic?! lets goooo
The event towers being 1 path is a design choice, so I respect it but I would like it better if they were 2 paths for more reasons to use the tower
also you should talked about the good more because because of the title
Honestly i dont really have any problems beating nightmare solo after getting traumatized by skill issue players. I also tried match making and they kinda suck im lvl 130+ so i dont have anyproblems of doing solo and soloing both nightmare sounds like a fun challenge for me since I create my own strats
I hope the quest system stays so there's more way to earn gold than just grinding the same map over and over.
@@mariustan9275 I hope they add more variety to it, def has potential
@@AuthenticSaltz Absolutely. Keep it for future events or just let people earn gold that way. What challenges do you think could be added? Aside from beating a certain map at a certain difficulty or beating a certain boss, maybe beating a certain difficulty with only certain towers, or a certain number of towers? Like "beat elite mode in 3 towers or less" or something.
great video saltz while I do agree with you about the two paths on event towers I wouldn't go as far as saying its "needed" and about ice breaker I absolutely agree with you about how forcing the players to do both parts on nightmare solo is absolutely absurd I get john wants to put challenge, but this is just annoying making casual players and completionist annoyed to the point they'll go to strats id like if they put it to duo instead of solo
If i may speak
I think John made a mistake in the Discord message he put out in the server as in both the ingame update log and in his vidoe he states that to obtain the Ice Breaker tower you only need to beat both Parts on Nightmare but not Solo Nightmare
SO yah me thinks John made an oopsie in discord message but im repeating myself
I pray this is true
whoopsy doopsy
Unrelated event theme skins should NOT be inside the battle pass cuz it just doesn’t fit. They should be skins obtained through other means
I disagree -- I loved having a variety of skins in the Halloween pass.
@@AuthenticSaltz fair enough
I think there should be a few skins, maybe 1/3rd of them, that are different, just to give them some relevance over time. A skin can also be winter themed and still not just Christmas. I like the skins a lot, but they do need variety.
@@AuthenticSaltz john said that he added random skins because he wanted to have a different take on halloween skins like cosplays
@@Sharkloe I mean yeah that's kinda his point, he also wanted something of a variety for the Xmas battle pass too.
If they don't change the way to get ice breaker I will cry 😭
I still think it's better than having the event tower locked behind the battlepass.
I hope chapter two is better 😔
for me 1 path is the best
first one here IM NOT THE “FIRST” TYPE OF VIEWER💀💀💀💀🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Bro really thinks people have friends 💀
3:01 i knew john roblox was unable to make an event tower actually fun to obtain
Honestly that's still better than obtaining it via the battle pass.
blud should take a look at tds bp
it's more filler then ever
@@Empouror if I make a video on TDS' battlepass that thing will be ripped to shreds 😂
@@AuthenticSaltz make it fr
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9th viewer let’s go
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