Pyle PDMIC58 vs Shure SM58 and Others

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @SparkY0
    @SparkY0 Год назад +6

    I have a Pyle PDMIC78 (SM57 clone, which I assume is the same capsule/sound as PDMIC58, but maybe not) and a Behringer XM8500. To me, the Pyle with a pop filter absolutely embarrasses the Behringer in terms of clarity and overall sound quality. I usually prefer how it sounds for VO over a sE V7. But the Behringer has much better build quality. Pyle QC is bad. In the past they've sent out microphones that are either not soldered properly, or sometimes not soldered at all. You can (and I have) gotten near-identical no-name SM57 clones from ali/wish that are both better built, and cheaper.
    Overall, the Behringer just feels better than the Pyle and comes with a hard case, so I like it more.... I just never actually use it for anything.
    For the comparisons in this video, RUclips's compression must be the great equalizer. To me and the $10 headphones I have on me, all the mics sounded almost exact the same to me. The exception was the 515sa, which was slightly fuller and smoother but darker. Maybe the 515sa is better for a podcast, but I prefer a more natural microphone for this style of video.

  • @tricogustrico
    @tricogustrico 3 года назад +11

    The Pyle mic sounded good to me.

  • @Baghdadbatterymusic
    @Baghdadbatterymusic Год назад +4

    The thing with Pyle mics is, at least in my experience, they’re very bright. Initially this bothered me but I actually prefer it that way now. To me it sounds much better to cut some highs in post than to boost a lacking frequency range. It’s kinda like a digital camera. The more data it can capture when taking the image, the better. Then you have more to work with when editing. That’s at least how I look at it

    • @KenTeel
      @KenTeel Год назад

      I agree. I like the clarity of the PDMIC58.

  • @Hardware244
    @Hardware244 Год назад +1

    Interesting. The Pyle mic sounds "clearer" than the shure mics and didn't seem to have that muffled, resonant/peaky sibilance thing going on in the 4-6khz region. It was really noticeable on the sm48, and a bit less noticeable on the sm58. The frequency response charts for both would confirm this.

  • @CrustaceousB
    @CrustaceousB 3 года назад +5

    I REALLY dont want to say this. i rewatched the video 3 times to make sure my ears werent going insane... I liked the Pyle...alot more than any of the other mics. I tend to like alot of high end and the pyle just sounded sooo crisp to me. God maybe i am going insane but thats what i heard in my openback headphones. Maybe the headphones are why i thought it sounded so good? i dunno but great video regardless man.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  3 года назад +2

      Thanks.
      I guess it should be a disclaimer in these videos...but this is just MY opinion.
      Honestly I dont judge anyone for buying or owning ANY mic...
      You do you man...and keep making content!

    • @CrustaceousB
      @CrustaceousB 3 года назад

      @@DarkCornerStudios haha you're absolutely fine man. I love watching your videos💜💜 I always feel like I understand the recording world a bit more afterwards. I'm a noob so it's gonna take alot of videos to get me situated haha

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  3 года назад +1

      @@CrustaceousB All good brother.
      Even I struggle to get some of the audio concepts through my thick skull...lol.

  • @autoch7067
    @autoch7067 7 месяцев назад +1

    The Pyle PDMIC58 is $22 and the Shure SM58 is $139 at this moment in Canada.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yep...and there are better ways to burn $22 than to purchase a Pyle

  • @deltacharlieecho4732
    @deltacharlieecho4732 3 года назад +2

    I'm planning on buying a couple of these to record driving noises from through a firewall into an engine bay and in the trunk pointing towards the exhaust. I can say, I think these will do the job well enough and I can always noise reduce in editing. I think these pyle mics get a bad wrap because people don't understand that you can actually do a couple of things to make them perform much more like the mics they're cloning not that I'm going to go into them here because there are plenty of videos on the processes on youtube. But bang for the buck, if you're going to be using a set of mics for something they really aren't designed for, pyle will do the job every time and they'll do the job over and over and over until you decide to upgrade.
    For what it's worth I use the SM57 clone for doing recording of a single 1x12 cab attached to a range of styles of guitars and an egnater tweaker 15 along side a couple of AKG mics and I'm always happy with the result that the sm57 clone provides.

  • @CentroComercialSanPedroPlaza
    @CentroComercialSanPedroPlaza Год назад

    Hola amigo. Muchas gracias por este video. Muy valiosa tu información y tu opinión frente a este micrófono. Quiero preguntarte algo. Cuando conectas este micrófono a una interfaz de audio, activas el Phantom 48V? o lo tienes desactivado. Discúlpame por no saber del tema. Solo que estoy muy interesado en comprar este micrófono para usarlo con una interfaz de audio Behringer. Muchas gracias!!

    • @diegobermudez.vocals
      @diegobermudez.vocals Год назад

      Estos micrófonos dinámicos no requieren phanton power, pero si puedes agregarle un preamp si tu tarjeta de sonido no cuenta con preamp.

  • @TroyNaumu808
    @TroyNaumu808 6 месяцев назад

    Pyle as a brand is fairly inconsistent not unlike Behringer brand products. I currently own the Behringer xm8500. I use it only as a bavkup to my Sennheiser E945s. Both shure mics are considerably better than the Pyle. Especially the Shure sm58, All that said. I currently own one Pyle brand microphone but not the one featured. Its a backup to my Shure Super 55SH .

  • @KenTeel
    @KenTeel Год назад +4

    Wrong:: I'm listening to this video through a pair of Sony MD7506 headphones. Neither the Pyle PDMIC58 or the Behringer XM1800 sound bad. In fact they sound good. With some EQ (post processing, they can sound pretty good.) I don't trust Dark Corner to do anything but brand snobbery on his channel. However, his conlusions sometimes being off, he does compare mics, and there is value in that. By the way the 600 Ohms is the important number. Most modern preamps are going to have a high input impedance of the preamp. As long as the input to the preamp (preamp rating) is a high input impedance, most of the voltage from the mic should be dropped across the preamps input and just a small amount dropping across the microphone's internal impedance. So, 600 Ohms should work just fine on modern circuitry. Update: Thanks for the video. I completely disagree with you. Based on your tests in this video, I bought a Pyle PDMIC58. I took it to a gig (and used the slip over foam windscreen for the whole gig.) I asked several people in the crowd, at various times how the audio sounded. They told me that it sounded just fine. One guy in the crowd was a bass player. He said that the vocals (through the PDMIC58) sounded good. I also did a test recording with this mic. It sounded good. (People in the crowd were very enthusisatic about the music I play only original music: guitar, vocal. So, the mic did it's job, just fine.) The high end is somewhat exaggerated, and leads to a bit of sibilance, but that can be taken care of with just rolling back the treble a bit, and on a recording, just editing the sibilant sections (attenuating them.) This mic has a bit more clarity than the Behringer XM8500, due to less emphasis on the bass with the PDMIC58. Would I recomment a PDMIC58... heck yes. Its a great deal, and a good little dynamic mic. If you're looking for big bass, then the Behringer XM8500 would be a better choice. If you're looking for clarity, the PDMIC58 is the better choice. Don't let this video review turn you off to the PCMIC58. It's a good mic, and a great deal. PS: they ground pins 1 and 3 (at least on the new ones), in the cable, not the mic. So, you can use an XLR to XLR cable with this mic, and get a balanced signal out to the mixer/amp. Update: I played another gig, using the PDMIC58. Once again the people said that it sounded good. Thank you for the video, and for hating this mic. Your demonstration sold me on this humble little mic.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  Год назад

      Lol

    • @raymota4515
      @raymota4515 4 месяца назад

      GREAT comment KT.

    • @Vapourize109
      @Vapourize109 3 месяца назад

      So everyone with a different opinion and preference to you is wrong and untrustworthy. You do know these reviews are just Aiden's opinions right?

    • @KenTeel
      @KenTeel 3 месяца назад

      @@Vapourize109 Wrong, I can buy. Untrusworthy ? Not so much. You can be wrong about something, and still be a trustworthy person. How much experience have you had with the PYLE PDMIC58 ? I use one regularly to gig with.

    • @Vapourize109
      @Vapourize109 3 месяца назад

      @KenTeel, you mentioned that you don't trust Dark Corner to do anything but brand snobbery on his channel. I have experience with the Pdmic; they have a couple at my nephew's school, and I've helped set up for assemblies several times. I personally don't think they are terrible, but I'll take my Shure SM58 any day. Does that mean I think you are wrong or that I'm a brand snob? Absolutely not. We all have different ears and opinions.
      Saying people are wrong because you don't agree makes it seem like you're taking it personally when someone doesn't like something you do. Reviews are not personal. I'm happy you have so much success with the Pdmic. Like Aiden, I don't shame others for their equipment choice-use what works for you. Just don't take things so personally.
      This is probably my longest comment ever on RUclips. I wish you success with your musical career. Now get out there and play!

  • @djmidnightwolf
    @djmidnightwolf 3 года назад +3

    Well it sounded better than my cheap Jensens that I got at Kmart for $5. They worked for karaoke but so glad I have my SM58s now.

  • @poelogan
    @poelogan 2 месяца назад

    what i’ve learned and confirmed over my years are recording are that good pre amps make pretty much any modern mic usable.

  • @deolludhianvi
    @deolludhianvi Год назад

    Sir, I am beginner. I want to record my written poetry professionally. In which my line will go in high tone and will also come in low tone. Tell me such a mic and audio interface. So that I can record and mix later. My room is not sound proof. My total budget is $300. But a shopkeeper told me that you cannot do recording with dynamic mic. Please tell me what should I do. Tell me such a mic and audio interface that I will not regret after buying.

  • @Vapourize109
    @Vapourize109 3 месяца назад

    Great review and very helpful 🤘

  • @jengime
    @jengime 2 месяца назад

    I think the pyle and the sm58 sound nearly identical in this test. Some of the other mics have noticable differences, but the sm58 sounded the least different to my ear. I've purchased multiple pyle sm57 clones and they sound great. Every behringer mic I've tried has sounded bad to me. Behringerhas great bang for buck in other pieces of equipment though.

  • @armaaniiboi4504
    @armaaniiboi4504 3 года назад +5

    Honestly It sounded more clear than the xm8500. Maybe my ears suck XD

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  3 года назад

      Yeah...the XM8500 is a tad muddy....
      Though I wasnt a fan of how the frequencies were handled by the Pyle.

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 6 месяцев назад

    sennheiser md46 vs sm58? People don't know how good the md46 is.

  • @Gearjunkie35JasonBallou
    @Gearjunkie35JasonBallou 3 года назад

    Not the 1st Pyle vs Shure video I've searched for. The top end presence is appealing for a dark mic application.Honestly, thinking of getting one as the dark mic (@45 degree angle) for Fredman mic technique. Very interesting for the $$....and yes beat the crap outta some clones. 😎 thanks for the content!

    • @raymota4515
      @raymota4515 4 месяца назад

      Ah! yes! The 45 degree vs the 23 degree discussion.VS straight into the capsule. THEN compared to the 6" vs 4" vs 1" rotunda. I noted that he did not use a clothesline clip on the clown nose to give it the ultimate "Barnum" test. Ah Well. Anyway . . .

  • @davidsillars3181
    @davidsillars3181 3 года назад +1

    Yeah. No. 😂 Saw a review of the Behringer SL 75c, another Sure approximation, but apparently not bad for under 20 British. I think it's well worth reviewing mics at that low price end for potential podcasters. Could you look at cheap adequate portable kit for out of studio work? Sure Dylan too will have some ideas, opinions, geekery 😂😂😂💕

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  3 года назад +2

      Its true.
      There is value.
      But there has to be a line in the sand.
      I think that line is karaoke microphones...lol

    • @davidsillars3181
      @davidsillars3181 3 года назад

      @@DarkCornerStudios 😂 😂 😂

  • @Chrisdan25
    @Chrisdan25 Год назад

    I have a pyle pd59 and 2 shure sm58 mics clearly my sm58 are the best thanks for your review

  • @DanielGonzalez-ix7cw
    @DanielGonzalez-ix7cw 3 года назад +1

    Thank u this help a lot

  • @Jonjon-ub3sr
    @Jonjon-ub3sr 2 года назад

    I literally got one for free 😂 I just put a code that my Pyle speaker had in the site and they just shipped me one! 🥰

  • @DaviddoesStuff
    @DaviddoesStuff 3 года назад

    No hate here. I think for people just starting a RUclips channel it might be an entry point to see if they like it and want to continue. 🤷‍♂️

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  3 года назад +1

      Well...you can do the same thing with an xm1800s or xm8500 and have something to sell when you upgrade

    • @DaviddoesStuff
      @DaviddoesStuff 3 года назад

      @@DarkCornerStudios I suppose but some people don’t have that much to start with and I’d rather seem them get started without going into debt. 😃 I’ve been broke before.
      On a phone there’s hardly any noticeable difference in any of them.
      For someone getting started in music it might make a difference but for RUclips I think they are all better than the mic in the camera. Thanks for the reply.

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  3 года назад +1

      @@DaviddoesStuff now I recognize I am speaking from a position of privilege...however...
      A price difference of 20 dollars between the Pyle and the Sm48 shouldn't drop you into debt...
      All that said though...as I said in an earlier response...
      These are MY opinions in the videos.
      I don't judge people's purchase decisions.
      And while there might not be any difference on a phone...I have to judge them on the audio quality that I see...
      But were I judging these mics based on a different voice...I may come to a different conclusion.
      Honestly...if you already went out to buy an interface...and this is your first mic...I would say you may want to start with a usb mic to find out if this is for you.....

    • @DaviddoesStuff
      @DaviddoesStuff 3 года назад

      @@DarkCornerStudios I just threw my comment in as food for thought. 😃
      A $20 mic or a $40 mic isn’t a problem for most people but it might be for a few.
      There are many people helping people get a start in RUclips and they recommend a “cheap entry level starter camera” and it’s an $8k camera! I don’t see that as an entry point, I see that as an obstacle.
      I have no desire to make music at this point in my life. I’m just wanting to have audio that people can understand without too much strain.
      I agree that the voice makes a huge difference. So I meant no downplay to your opinion at all. I’m just provoking thought and adding to your engagement in the algorithm. 😃
      I really do appreciate what you do on here. Have a great day and be safe out there!

    • @DarkCornerStudios
      @DarkCornerStudios  3 года назад

      @@DaviddoesStuff cheers!!

  • @jaysonwallker1648
    @jaysonwallker1648 Год назад +2

    Not much difference

  • @ccmcmillian
    @ccmcmillian 3 года назад

    fuggin great video

  • @raymota4515
    @raymota4515 4 месяца назад

    IF you're using a dynamic for voice in the studio. WHY? If you're using a dynamic for vocals in a live rock band, no one cares otherwise anyhow. If you can compare apples to oranges you're a fruit -o-phobe-ist. DCS does great reviews and presents his valued opinion. Some days it is very difficult to discern the liars from the freaks opposed to those with evil intent.

  • @jimcamp2423
    @jimcamp2423 Год назад +4

    I thought the Pyle held it's own across the entire comparison segment. $ 13 vs $ 99+. Really, the Pyle comes with 16 feet of mic cable. At what point is the Shure SM58 losing dynamic just the same. The whole cable length thing has more to do with the cable itself rather than the microphone, balanced vs unbalanced. How the microphones output is wired for XLR vs TS 1/4. The Pyle is really soldered to be a universal internal wiring, the cable you use determines whether the micro[hone is balanced vs unbalanced. There's hard wiring & then there's cable select wiring. Go ahead google/RUclips any mods to a $ 20 microphone for balanced vs unbalanced wiring. The Pyle is a universal internal wiring and the choice of cable is what determines whether it's Balanced or Unbalanced. Very little is a problem internally for a microphone for grounding, there just isn't enough length for connections. Where the noise happens is in the meters of cable from mic to DI box to the amp. Just like it would be for a guitar & amplifier.
    micmodkits.com/2018/01/12/balanced-rewire-mod-for-pyle-pdmic78-and-pdmic58/
    I get that the studio has to sell higher priced gear to charge what they do for expensive studio time. Just because someone charges 6+ times what a Pyle mic costs, doesn't make it 6 times better. If I'm paying what a studio charges, of course I want the equipment to be expensive. But I figure I'm really paying the gouges for rent or the commercial building really. Durability ? You know Shure's warranty on an SM58 is 1 year, just like it is on the PDMIC58/59. So what exactly am I not getting about this ? I'm thinking my 2 year old Pyle mics are well beyond warranty, still work the same as the day I bought them. I have a gut feeling I didn't get a special one from Pyle, that it will still work 10 years from now, just like a Shure that has been taken care of. The trick is, your microphone is like a tooth brush. Sweat & saliva is what is going to most likely damage a microphone. As for dropping one, don't drop one & if you do, have another $ 13 Pyle as a backup. You can buy 6+ Pyle mics for every Shure. Shure can't compete with Pyle or Samson, Behringer or any other $ 20 microphone without someone trying to sell the concept that somehow the dynamic passive microphone has to cost $ 100+, otherwise it's inferior ?

    • @raymota4515
      @raymota4515 4 месяца назад +1

      Thanks JC for a great comment.

    • @jimcamp2423
      @jimcamp2423 4 месяца назад

      3 year LT Update: I have 3 Pyle microphones. PDMIC59 (SM58S clone, the S just indicates the microphone has an on/off switch), PDMIC78 (SM57 clone) & PDMICR68SL (Model 55 SH clone). All 3 purchased May 2021, $ 17, $13 & $42 respectively. All 3 Pyle mics came with a 1 year warranty, 3 years later, no downtime from a failure & all perform as they did out of the box. I use them in a home studio, they don't go to a bar karaoke stage. For what the Pyle mics cost, I was able to buy a mic stand for $ 23. To get all that for $ 4 less than the Shure SM58 at $ 99, there simply is no other way to put it, other than Shure can't compete with the Pyle lineup, not when there is very little to discern the end live vocals or recordings.
      A friend purchased the PDMICR68SL at the same time I purchased mine. He sold me his after 3 years for $ 38 just 4 days before this comment, used only as a photo prop, where he's made the $ 42 he paid for his back several times over. Based upon the resale value of that Pyle mic, it's condition, the Pyle will relatively hold it's value better than a Shure.Model 55 SH. 2021, the Model 55 SH Series 2 was $ 179, 2024 $ 199. A PDMICR68SL,2021 $ 39.99 2024 $ 59.99-68.99 new. $ 20 seems to be the appreciation for both for inflation. Per Reverb the Shure is $ 87-145 for a Good to Mint condition Model 55 SH. The depreciation alone on the Shure is $ 2+ more than what I purchased either Pyle PDMICR68SL for, new or used.
      reverb.com/p/shure-55sh-series-ii?ended_listing=81627871
      Take from any of this post what you want, just my experience(s) with any Pyle microphone product to date.