People got so angry at this scene in thinking that the Doctor was being shallow and that he had nothing to live for and was saying that Clara was the only mystery worth solving. He wasn't saying that. He was saying humans in general, his companions, humanity and life, were the only mystery worth solving. It's so beautiful.
Definitely, but I wouldn’t say that only extends to humanity. Of course that’s the focus because we’re the viewers, but for the Doctor, I think he sees life in general as beautiful, and really the whole of the universe. At this point in his life he knows so much, but the universe never ceases to amaze. 10 and 12 said something similar. With immortals life just goes on and on; they have centuries to accomplish anything. With mortals (human or otherwise) their entire species only has so long in the universe. Each individual only has so long alive, and that pushes them to accomplish so much. They don’t get do overs, and yet they strive to evolve and improve. The Doctor can outlive their whole species and then go back to before their planet came into existence, but in a lot of cases simple mortals accomplish more than the Doctor ever could in that short amount of time. They realize the importance of everything, where timelords won’t always. To see that on a universal scale has to be amazing for the doctor
I just rewatched whole episode and you can see 11th being very hurt that when she says that 'we are nothing to you'. Of course traveling trough time makes him detached - but also very, very lonely. And he still reaches out to humanity - to both humans and concept as hole.
This reminds me of when Wilf said to Ten, "We must look like ants to you" after hearing that Ten was hundreds of years old, and Ten replied "you look like giants to me"
It's not that uncommon for a companion to suffer from an existential crisis after travelling through time and understanding what that really means. Rose also had one in The End of the World, after the Doctor defeats Cassandra, she watches the Earth's destruction and ponders on how everything is just gone and no one noticed because they were too busy with other things and if it all really meant anything to anyone. She got over it pretty quickly, though.
I think that line about "Ghosts" fits more to the doctor than other people. Think about it, he is a time traveler. Hes always coming and going through different peoples lives all the time, but he can never be truly part of them. He always has to leave them at some point. He's just sort of there. He must feel like he's the ghost watching the living walk by him.
There’s some quote or something about immortality that’s kinda like that that basically boils down to “Living forever means seeing everyone around you die while you’re forced to watch”
There was a book that I read where two sandbox friends grew up in a far future. In this future they had the ability to freeze a human forever and at some point in time that human could choose to thaw out. One decided to be frozen while the other refused. The one that refused always wrote his best friend about his marriage his kids and the basic trials and tribulations of his life. Even wrote of swimming and eating toast. His friend came out of hibernation now and then and read the letters from his friend with great joy. Then one day the letter stopped and he read his last letter from his best friend. He urged him to go swimming while there was water left and to enjoy a slice of toast now and then. See the world had used all its surface water and swimming was no longer viable and bread was nearly impossible to come by. While he might have traveled far into the future he missed living it. At this he cried.
'We're all ghosts to you.' That. . . that is both a dark and heartbreaking line, because of how true it is. I love how Matt's face shifts when he's told that.
Soldier D-1804 I mean it’s true; it has a verb and a subject and that means it’s a sentence, right? I really don’t know if that’s right, sorry if I’m wrong
3:20 "Is my body out there somewhere?" I love the way that this line foreshadows the finale. When Clara says this, you can almost see the Doctor thinking about his own grave being out there somewhere, too. At this point, he thought he was on his final regeneration, and being reminded of his own mortality clearly made him uncomfortable.
I like to think that it's either him considering the fact that an earthly death is often a best case scenario for many of his companions. The Doctor had no clue at this point whether or not she might end up dying on a different planet in a different time yet. That, or he could be considering his previous companion Amelia Pond, where his final memory of her was staring down at her gravestone.
@@Woppow Actually yes, really. They are dead at that point. Only River could reach them with her Vortex Manipulator and telling Amy when she still was alive in the past to write the epilogue to her book. But at the moment the Doctor and River stand at the Pond's grave, both former companions are dead.
Neoblackdragon yeah, but remember in Father's Day when 9 and Rose watched their past selves watch Rose's dad die. And in Blink Martha said that they went to see the moon landing more than once
I think this is one of the reasons I''ll miss this Doctor. That playful quality that can make the leap into sudden seriousness, but not be too abrupt. I think it'll take a little while for me to get used to Peter Capaldi and his darker Doctor.
LazyBazooka What do you mean by the phrase, "held back by child friendly story telling"? Doctor Who is supposed to be "child friendly" as it is a FAMILY SHOW. If you want serious science based science fiction read a book. Doctor Who is entry level SF, the equivelent of comfort food. If you want gourmet then go to the the experts at your local book store. Far be it for me to defend the show runner but this relentless senceless Moffat bashing is starting to get boring. If you think you can do better then damn it do it, put up or shut up.
Capaldi has been doing a fantastic job at being the doctor and i mean that, but he doesn't have a signature thing yet, like tom with the Jelly babies, Matt with the Bow ties and Fez, Patrick with the flute, and Capaldi? He doesn't have one yet, If he were to have one, i would say Jelly babies..
He lived about 400 years from season 5 to 6, how have we've seen his birth to death? And I'm not even counting Trenzalore. ...Or the time he spent as a monk. ... Or the time he spent in the clouds.
I was thinking the same thing. I remember there was talk of Matt Smith and Jenna Coleman doing series 8 together before Matt announced he'd be leaving the show. I was really looking forward to seeing how it would have turned out if that had happened. Hopefully Big Finish can help fill up that gap one day like Michael said.
Is nobody going to point out that somewhere, when they were at the end of earths cycle, nine and rose were out there somewhere on a spaceship, watching it burn? And he was also wearing ten's suit! He clearly must have thought about rose at least once on this scene.
Yes, 3. Admittedly, the one #12 wore it in was a horrible, incredibly stupid episode that should never have seen air (Kill The Moon), but it did make it 3 of them, from Impossible Planet on, that have worn it.
Wow. It’s obvious that the Doctor (not just 11) doesn’t want to get personal, just wants someone to show the universe to, but then there are scenes like this. Just…the moments when the Doctor becomes more than a kind smile, an adventurer, a small protector, a ghost known across time. When he opens up, beautiful scenes happen.
The irony of this scene at around 1:07 Clara talking about that she's a ghost and she's buried somewhere in a grave. On the last episode of Series 7B, the "Name of the Doctor," Doctor is going to meet his grave and he's very bothered about it. Just as how Clara is on this whole time traveling business.
+zinki120 He's also I think not bothered for the same reasons. Clara's obviously distressed that somewhere out there, she's already dead and that in some sense this makes her not real. The doctor isn't remotely bothered by being dead. His concern is the difficulty involved in intersecting his own timestream.
And Clara is buried there. That episode shows that she's echoing through the doctor's timeline, she's like a ghost everywhere, unseen mostly, now so since she's been forgotten. Remember that ghost in 'Listen'. It's her. Like Bad Wolf, she's spread around time.
Sean, doesn't the TARDIS Data Core maintain the viewpoint that the events that happen within the show are canon and that anything outside the show isn't truly canon unless confirmed by the show?
I always wondered why he loved humans so much, he gave hints here and there, complimented us at every turn, but he never gave a defined reason on why he cares about us so much and why he would give his live(s) to save us.
Yea true but before 9 his other regenerations loved humans as well, some might have thought we were dumb but none the less he still risked his lives to save our planet and they never explained why he would do that.
PsychoticSoul91 i think its because humans remind him of whats good in the universe do we make mistakes? yes we do but we are always evolving and we have so much potential which is why the doctors like humans and this is from the doctor in this clip
I think I'll go with the discussion between Tom Baker's Doctor and Sarah Jane when he comments that humans have such limited little minds and he doesn't know why he likes us so much and she just answers it's because he has such good taste, to which he agrees. :)
Clara's body IS in there, returned to earth. As she looks at the Earth, her time frozen self in the future, after all her adventures - still returned to trap street, and died. Time makes fools of us all.
I think if that was a Capaldi episode, would would probably see his darker side treat the other characters in a more ignorant way. When I say that, you know like how he snaps his moods with Clara and others? He would talk to Clara worse than how Eleven spoken to her when they witnessed the death of the human race and the planet being burnt to death, I think Eleven deals with it more abrupt and shows more respect for her. I think its similar scene to when Clara just flips out at twelve , in Kill the Moon. How he just leaves her to deal with it. I do hope we see more of Clara's anger in series nine as she feels as though now its the right time to talk to him as an ambassador for us lot. I felt for her very much, when she decided to leave half way through, but only to have a quick paddy with him. I think its good though on the other hand as he puts it into context of what really happens and how she learns by him. I just love Doctor Who but do miss Elevens sparky, energy though. Was like a breathe of fresh air. Always having a fun time no matter the circumstances. Like if you love Clara. Twelves doctors fantastic, but I do like his dark Eire personality. I think in some aspects its what the show needed. But will always miss Matt.
I really love the layered writing here - He's talking about humanity in general, about Clara as he interacts with her every day on an interpersonal level, the echo situation, AND his own nature (it is, to a great extent, curiosity that keeps him going) all at the same time. While Rose and Amy had their brief "I'm dead in the future!" freakouts on their first visits to the future (which says something, not necessarily the same thing, about their natures), it took Clara several episodes to think of this, but when she does, it hits her all the harder we get to see a more vulnerable side to her and in fact, the first glimpse at what is in fact, a recurring fear of hers (her own, uncertain future/death) But we also can tell from what exactly upsets her and how she speaks of it that she truly understands the implications of what she's seeing and giving deep thoughts to her surroundings.
I've always thought that Matt Smith brought back some of the whimsy and childlike wonder Tom Baker displayed as the Doctor. That's why I cried during the meeting of The Doctor, and The Curator. My two favorite Doctors together at last!
@3:40 when Clara says that everyone must look like nothing yo him. I almost looks like the Doctor remembers what Wilfred said to him, it almost looks like theres a bit of pain in his eyes when she says it
I stongly disagree with Phil and legs, and strongly agree with ravingmonkey216. I greatly enjoyed Capaldi's run as the Doctor - who else could (SPOILERS) Ride into a medevial arena on a freaking *tank* playing an electric guitar! And it's *him* playing the guitar, as he was in a rock band IRL, too!
The Doctor is the ultimate Schroeder's Cat. By his nature of being a time traveler, and being able to cross his own timeline, he is simultaneously, not yet been born, just been born, currently running around, and dead all at the same time.
I just thought, when he's wondering if he had an umbrella, I think he'd referring to his 7th incarnation, Sylvester Mccoy. I really hope so, I loved that Doctor.
He was pretty quick to respond when she said humans were nothing to him. He spent a lot of time protecting Earth, so for her to say that is just hurtful and rude.
What I think we are going to have, is that we're going to like Clara more with Capaldi than Smith. For example, 9th and Rose got on well and were great together, but, 9/10 people would say 10th and Rose were brilliant together, I think this is what's going to happen here, that seems to happen a lot with doctors. Another example is 3rd with Sarah Jane, they were great, but 9/10 people would say 4th and Sarah Jane were fantastic with each other.
I think you're right. This is one of the only scenes where she is tolerable. I was starting to think she was a throwback to all the annoying companions in the classic series. Very few were as good as the reboot series companions who had way more depth. When Sara Jane was with 3 she was as feisty and irritating as Clara was in series 7. But she was alot better with Tom Baker. Adrick was a complete ass with terrible acting and the other two female companions at that time were poorly written compared to Martha, Donna, Amy, Rory, River and Rose.
Could also look at it the other way, where 11/Clara was more like 10/Rose (both with a relatively heavily implied relationship/attraction that got in the way of the story at times), while 12/Clara could be more like 9/Rose (though without even their casual flirting), where the relationship was much more Doctor-companion than anything else. Focus less on things between them, let Clara develop more as a character. It should be fun.
What she said really struck me. People who can time travel, could in one minute, visit the hospital to watch themselves being born. In the next minute they could visit their own grave, years after their death. It's no wonder time travellers are always the wisest people. Imagine your sitting next to a time traveller and you realize that if you asked, they could tell you how you die. When, where and how in exact detail. Which would really suck, because you know there's nothing you can do about it. (Unless you're the Doctor, of course).
The answer to Clara's question is all in how you look at it... if you look at time in a linear, straight line fashion, from start to end, then you might see people you meet in different times as "ghost's". So for instance, from Clara's perspective as a 21st. century girl, a person she meets in 1850 has really been dead for a very long time... But that's not how time works, is it? Because that person from 1850 was not dead and buried, waiting for the Tardis and Clara to come along to be alive again. They were alive before the Tardis landed, and are alive after the Tardis leaves. All time is connected-- everything that was ever born, lived or died is in that process right now, wherever that happen to be. The past, present, or future are just concepts, or constructs. So from that perspective, a person you meet in 1850, 1980, or 2940 is just as alive and involved in that process as the person you meet on a bus, going to work from the time you consider your own. There is no difference. So they're not ghosts-- just people at different points in the time stream.
But that's the point, Clara is a human she sees the world from point A to point B like all human beings do because that is our limited understanding of the world and the universe.
For the last few years I’ve been struggling with a crippling existential crisis. This choked me up and really helped me at a time I needed it. Thank you, seriously thank you.
It's the same suit he wore in Waters of Mars and The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit. Kind of funny that the Doctor takes stuff he finds on adventure and just stuffs them in nearby closets in case he needs them later. He even has the witches from the Shakespeare episode stashed somewhere with his Agatha Christie novels.
Raguleader He probably has entire rooms full of random mementos somewhere, full of stuff like Susan's shoe, Rose's forgotten jacket, Martha's phone, Liz Ten's mask..
It's exactly these scenes that convinced me that the Doctor and this companion will have a more complex friendship than just "cuddly-cuddly" all the time. As much as I like it when they just hang out and have fun together, I appreciate every serious scene of this caliber, especially if it's minimalist and to the point. This scene also sold me on Clara as a character. I've liked Jen for years and had no problem with her, but until I saw Hide, I found Clara to be just a random girl with a kind heart and a cute face. After seeing her express doubt and hint at her fears more openly, I could immediately sympathise with her a lot more. This whole scene is a perfect blend of both the trust and the sense of caution that the Doc and his companions should always have. (I personally don't like when the TARDIS crew is just always impossibly chummy and never even notes there might be some differences needed to be overcome by mutual understanding. So kudos to Neil Cross for this scene, and several others in this episode.)
0:53 ...looking at this, I'm beginning to reconsider wether the amount of insults exchanged between the two has really increased that much in series 8.... They both have so much closeted vanity going on, too, so OF COURSE they take cheap shots at each other's looks... Also, obviously, great quote/exchange, sort of echoing the "you look like giants" comment he gave to Wilfred, but also given the many layers of context going here, about humanity in general, the current Clara mystery situation and the Doctor's curiosity in general - can't keep sulking for too long if something unexplained crosses his radar too insistently, but also showing Clara's more sensitive sides.
Does anyone else feel like Eleven and Clara were channeling Rose and Ten in this episode (only they were being far less annoying)? A lot of episodes in Series 7 foreshadowed the return of the Time War plot, along with David Tennant and Billie Piper, and this was one of them.
Gives you chills every time. Reminds me of Kurisu from steins gate. Time machines just make life more empty. Dulls your regard for human life. Clara makes this point clear, and does this brilliantly.
I know some people would have preferred that Victorian Clara be the Doctor's companion, but Jenna's performance in this one scene is why I believe none of that matters.
I dont have a problem with clara either, as long as her story integrates with the doctor's, the way it's mostly been since new who started. Which is why i dont take to s11 well... There's no narrative connection between the doctor and her companions. They just happen to travel together but develop separately, if even.
I love when The Doctor says "We are staying in this exact spot, if i can work out how to do it." Because he doesnt just need to worry about the temporal shift. The entire universe is moving, and if you time travel, without moving through space, you'll end up in the same spot, but not on the planet, cause the planet will have moved.
The opposite is also true: to the Doctor, everyone who ever was or will be is still alive. Which is probably a big part of why he keeps changing companions. As long as they aren't with him where he is confronted with their mortality, he can think of them as all being alive and well, just outside the door of the TARDIS.
Clara doesn't realize that "we're going always" is actually a sentence, it's just the verb is intransitive. we aren't going anywhere, we're just on our way to being dead and gone, all of us, even the Doctor - he's had his final regeneration and he's showing her his appreciation of the ephemerality of things, as 11 once said "I'm not running from things I'm running to them before they flare and fade forever". this episode hides the saddest and most beautiful truth of the universe that "everything ends", but the Doctor is the only one who understands the full weight of it, hence later Clara says to his younger self with an old man's face, "your eyes, you're so much younger."
"I'm not running from things I'm running to them before they flare and fade forever" It sounds cool, but it's quite wrong. I mean the Doctor has all the time and space at his disposal, he's got a freaking TIME MACHINE! So what things are flaring and fading forever? If something doesn't exist anymore, he can always go back in time to when those things still were there. Unless some specific cases that are time-locked, but even then it sometimes works (like in Day of the Doctor). Yes, it sounds cool, but it lost the meaning with a time machine. Wanna see some dinos? Let's go back in time. It doesn't matter, that the dinos don't exist anymore, that they basically flare and fade out of existence, you've got a time machine, dude, you can go back to see them by pulling some levers, easy as that. They are not time-locked, they aren't impossible to reach, hidden in an alternate universe or anything, they just went extinct. It's easy to go back in time with the TARDIS to see them again. So yea. A cool sounding quote, that doesn't really make sense, considering what programme they're part off.
"Did the TARDIS say something to you? Are YOU being mean?!" *slaps the TARDIS with a glow* I don't know why but I started laughing like never before, hah :D
I loved Smith's showing off and his hilarious sense of humor(the fez thing never gets old). On the other hand, the fact that he pretty much knew EVERYTHING made the Whoniverse of the Moffat era seem incredibly small(that and the fact it kept getting blown up). Now don't get me wrong, I know the Doctor has 1200 years of experience. The problem is that he keeps spitting all of it out of his mouth. This motif of the new series about the Doctor being a motor mouth is getting old fast. Sylvester McCoy or William Hartnell for example never said more than had to be said and that made their Whoniverses so big. Anything could happen in those worlds.
I wonder why so many people comment on the Doctor's 'space suit'. Does it really matter how many shows it's been seen in? He obviously likes it. LOL My children and now my grandchildren love the many faces of the Doctor. And the Companions. Right now the grandchildren are asking me when the new season will begin. I think we may have fish sticks and custard.. just for fun.. that evening when they come to visit me. LOL And for dessert I will find whatever they have closest to jelly babies at the supermarket. Can't wait for the latest season.
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"Did the TARDIS say something? Are you being mean?!" Brilliant line.
Best bit!
The little slap he does with the gloves is just gold 😂
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Wouldn’t it be cool if there was a series where the TARDIS actually did talk?
@@Ari-fs6oe she doesnt use actual words, but she DOES speak, she done it at least since 4th!
People got so angry at this scene in thinking that the Doctor was being shallow and that he had nothing to live for and was saying that Clara was the only mystery worth solving. He wasn't saying that. He was saying humans in general, his companions, humanity and life, were the only mystery worth solving. It's so beautiful.
Definitely, but I wouldn’t say that only extends to humanity. Of course that’s the focus because we’re the viewers, but for the Doctor, I think he sees life in general as beautiful, and really the whole of the universe. At this point in his life he knows so much, but the universe never ceases to amaze. 10 and 12 said something similar. With immortals life just goes on and on; they have centuries to accomplish anything. With mortals (human or otherwise) their entire species only has so long in the universe. Each individual only has so long alive, and that pushes them to accomplish so much. They don’t get do overs, and yet they strive to evolve and improve. The Doctor can outlive their whole species and then go back to before their planet came into existence, but in a lot of cases simple mortals accomplish more than the Doctor ever could in that short amount of time. They realize the importance of everything, where timelords won’t always. To see that on a universal scale has to be amazing for the doctor
I just rewatched whole episode and you can see 11th being very hurt that when she says that 'we are nothing to you'. Of course traveling trough time makes him detached - but also very, very lonely. And he still reaches out to humanity - to both humans and concept as hole.
I just thought he fancied clara which was true doe
From the very beginning, the Doctor has always loved Human kind.
@@cindygreene3353 a human stopped him from murdering someome in a moment of desrestion he knows we can better then we are
This reminds me of when Wilf said to Ten, "We must look like ants to you" after hearing that Ten was hundreds of years old, and Ten replied "you look like giants to me"
First Rule of the Doctor ~ The Doctor LIES.
paul blume They changed this rule, many episodes ago the first rule was something else.
The rules are whatever Moffat says they are :)
It's not that uncommon for a companion to suffer from an existential crisis after travelling through time and understanding what that really means. Rose also had one in The End of the World, after the Doctor defeats Cassandra, she watches the Earth's destruction and ponders on how everything is just gone and no one noticed because they were too busy with other things and if it all really meant anything to anyone. She got over it pretty quickly, though.
@@kpaulblume47 The 11th Doctor Lies, 10 was MOSTLY Honest
I think that line about "Ghosts" fits more to the doctor than other people. Think about it, he is a time traveler. Hes always coming and going through different peoples lives all the time, but he can never be truly part of them. He always has to leave them at some point. He's just sort of there. He must feel like he's the ghost watching the living walk by him.
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There’s some quote or something about immortality that’s kinda like that that basically boils down to “Living forever means seeing everyone around you die while you’re forced to watch”
@@benfletcher8100 I believe the 12th Doctor says it in "Twice upon a time" to the 1st Doctor.
Makes far more sense for sure - he's just existing, these people live.
There was a book that I read where two sandbox friends grew up in a far future. In this future they had the ability to freeze a human forever and at some point in time that human could choose to thaw out. One decided to be frozen while the other refused. The one that refused always wrote his best friend about his marriage his kids and the basic trials and tribulations of his life. Even wrote of swimming and eating toast. His friend came out of hibernation now and then and read the letters from his friend with great joy. Then one day the letter stopped and he read his last letter from his best friend. He urged him to go swimming while there was water left and to enjoy a slice of toast now and then. See the world had used all its surface water and swimming was no longer viable and bread was nearly impossible to come by. While he might have traveled far into the future he missed living it.
At this he cried.
'We're all ghosts to you.' That. . . that is both a dark and heartbreaking line, because of how true it is. I love how Matt's face shifts when he's told that.
"That's not _actually_ a sentence."
"Well, it's got a verb in it."
English teachers HATE him!
Lol
English in a nutshell
Soldier D-1804 I mean it’s true; it has a verb and a subject and that means it’s a sentence, right?
I really don’t know if that’s right, sorry if I’m wrong
I mean, he's not wrong
Yep. "We are going always."
Are = verb
We = subject
Going always = predicate
So technically yes he's right 🤣
3:20 "Is my body out there somewhere?" I love the way that this line foreshadows the finale. When Clara says this, you can almost see the Doctor thinking about his own grave being out there somewhere, too. At this point, he thought he was on his final regeneration, and being reminded of his own mortality clearly made him uncomfortable.
I like to think that it's either him considering the fact that an earthly death is often a best case scenario for many of his companions. The Doctor had no clue at this point whether or not she might end up dying on a different planet in a different time yet.
That, or he could be considering his previous companion Amelia Pond, where his final memory of her was staring down at her gravestone.
He read that page from her book, so not really
@@Woppow Actually yes, really. They are dead at that point. Only River could reach them with her Vortex Manipulator and telling Amy when she still was alive in the past to write the epilogue to her book. But at the moment the Doctor and River stand at the Pond's grave, both former companions are dead.
@@conmattang8492 He could also be thinking of her "ghosts", all the other Claras he'd seen live and die.
Just a friendly reminder that while 11 and Clara were on earth, 9 and Rose were watching earth's death from space
That is a fantastic theory (no 9th doctor pun intended)
Well this could have occurred many years before. The Tardis dislikes crossing it's own time stream.
Neoblackdragon yeah, but remember in Father's Day when 9 and Rose watched their past selves watch Rose's dad die. And in Blink Martha said that they went to see the moon landing more than once
No 9 and Rose were 6 billion years in the future 11 and Clara were 6 billion years in the past
Yeah cos’ of the life cycle of earth thing, eh?
He's kept that same space suit from the Impossible planet... I think
And Waters of Mars
martin pp He did wear it in The Waters of Mars too, So they're both right
LordxDanswich But that's not when he kept it from.
Philip Fogarty thats because you can't, you never know if you're right or not
well its a nice reference
"So I am a ghost. To you I'm a ghost, we're all ghosts to you. We must be nothing."
"I think you look like giants."
*SPOILERS*
Side reference to the "ghost" in this episode, being a human being.
Not now, sandshoes
The Doctor looks down and thinks "Rose liked it..."
Jesse Gray that's ok I didn't need a heart anyway
Nope.
Ope, goodbye happiness
@@jsmoove592 just be glad you still have the other one
@@Chroiduendo Tried looking on the beach?
You are the only mystery worth solving. That, and where did my umbrella stand go?
Ha!
+Zoe Crosson "The only mystery worth solving" Yes, I'm glad Steven Moffat's gone! I know that he didn't write this, but he had a major influence.
Then why *does* the Doctor care about and do everything he can to save humans, if you dislike this answer so much?
The video is title "The Only Mystery Worth Solving" and it starts with the umbrella stand mystery. Coincidence? I think not!
I always felt he should've never have left that umbrella stand go.
0:51 ''I think it brings out my eyes!'' ''Makes my eyes hurt.''
He looks so sad after that.
JedgarTheGamer Ik :(
I believe he wore the same suit when he was the Tenth Doctor too, in The Last of the Time Lords
Wait... did you watch the video too? OMG!
***** and forthe first time in Impossible Planet and it's sequel Satan's Pit.
I think this is one of the reasons I''ll miss this Doctor. That playful quality that can make the leap into sudden seriousness, but not be too abrupt. I think it'll take a little while for me to get used to Peter Capaldi and his darker Doctor.
LazyBazooka
What do you mean by the phrase, "held back by child friendly story telling"? Doctor Who is supposed to be "child friendly" as it is a FAMILY SHOW. If you want serious science based science fiction read a book. Doctor Who is entry level SF, the equivelent of comfort food. If you want gourmet then go to the the experts at your local book store. Far be it for me to defend the show runner but this relentless senceless Moffat bashing is starting to get boring. If you think you can do better then damn it do it, put up or shut up.
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Capaldi has been doing a fantastic job at being the doctor and i mean that, but he doesn't have a signature thing yet, like tom with the Jelly babies, Matt with the Bow ties and Fez, Patrick with the flute, and Capaldi? He doesn't have one yet, If he were to have one, i would say Jelly babies..
TheKilogram1000
Ah yes, the "never trust a hug" thing. Will it catch on? Nah! Clara, keep hugging that grumpy Doctor! : )
***** Dark Water wasn't dark enough for you?
Clara's comment on the hazmat suit look like it really hit The Doctor hard in the feels XD
it was so cute 😂😂
*space suit
Ikr I feel bad for him know
Jorrel Doe uO
well it is his favorite space suit
And we've seen the entire lifecycle of the Eleventh Doctor, birth to death, and I'm not okay with that.
"Birth"
Johny Bänger I don't get it.
viridismonasteriense The Eleventh Doctor didn't die, he regenerated...
Anton Leví Correction. The doctor regenerated. The eleventh doctor died.
He lived about 400 years from season 5 to 6, how have we've seen his birth to death?
And I'm not even counting Trenzalore.
...Or the time he spent as a monk.
... Or the time he spent in the clouds.
2:07 11th Doctor on the Earth. Up there 9th Doctor in a ship with Rose.
+NFDIH with miss stretchy face XD
+deepdragon2 Sorry Cassandra.
+deepdragon2 moisturize me
+wooden nickel
moisturIZE ME
Moisturize me
They're so great together it makes me angry that they didn't have another season together.
I know right? Eleven and Clara needed one more season AT LEAST!
Honestly, the interactions between them were the best.
Less then 13 episodes
Hopefully Big Finish can fix that problem for us!
I was thinking the same thing. I remember there was talk of Matt Smith and Jenna Coleman doing series 8 together before Matt announced he'd be leaving the show. I was really looking forward to seeing how it would have turned out if that had happened. Hopefully Big Finish can help fill up that gap one day like Michael said.
Whether he's 9, 10, 11, or 12, The Doctor has got some serious game.
+Cryer24597 Or the war doctor :P
Or the child doctor we saw in "Listen".
Or Sherlock
Not like there were 8 Doctors before that or anything, not including John Hurt.
Cryer24597 shut up, you're the child doctor but younger :P
Is nobody going to point out that somewhere, when they were at the end of earths cycle, nine and rose were out there somewhere on a spaceship, watching it burn? And he was also wearing ten's suit! He clearly must have thought about rose at least once on this scene.
Yumna Siddiqi a number of people in these comments have pointed that out.
This is probably a few years or sometime before 5.5/Apple/26, when the National Trust restored the Earth to a classic state.
He looked so dissapointed when Clara denied his suit. :(
"I think it brings out my eyes"
"Makes my eyes hurt." I. Just. Cannot.
Try.
+OpenMawProductions to.
Maybe.
Loved the iconic space suit stayed the same and used by the three Doctors
But didn't it lose the Sanctuary Base 6 logo.
Lewis Co. only in a few scences
3?
Yes, 3. Admittedly, the one #12 wore it in was a horrible, incredibly stupid episode that should never have seen air (Kill The Moon), but it did make it 3 of them, from Impossible Planet on, that have worn it.
Now 4, the throughline continues
Wow. It’s obvious that the Doctor (not just 11) doesn’t want to get personal, just wants someone to show the universe to, but then there are scenes like this. Just…the moments when the Doctor becomes more than a kind smile, an adventurer, a small protector, a ghost known across time. When he opens up, beautiful scenes happen.
The irony of this scene at around 1:07 Clara talking about that she's a ghost and she's buried somewhere in a grave. On the last episode of Series 7B, the "Name of the Doctor," Doctor is going to meet his grave and he's very bothered about it. Just as how Clara is on this whole time traveling business.
And also spoilering.
Beta Factor
Its been nearly a year. lol.
+zinki120 He's also I think not bothered for the same reasons. Clara's obviously distressed that somewhere out there, she's already dead and that in some sense this makes her not real. The doctor isn't remotely bothered by being dead. His concern is the difficulty involved in intersecting his own timestream.
And Clara is buried there. That episode shows that she's echoing through the doctor's timeline, she's like a ghost everywhere, unseen mostly, now so since she's been forgotten.
Remember that ghost in 'Listen'. It's her. Like Bad Wolf, she's spread around time.
This scene is always amazing to me, it’s not often that we see just the full scale of the doctor’s time traveling adventures
Man, looking back at moments like this just emphasizes these actors' ability to seem unfathomably older than they are and it's incredible.
What happened to "I think you look like giants?" Damn, Doctor. Did the loss of the Ponds make you THAT cynical about humanity?
Giants can be the only mystery worth solving lol
In Doctor Who, EVERYTHING is debatable as Canon
Sean, doesn't the TARDIS Data Core maintain the viewpoint that the events that happen within the show are canon and that anything outside the show isn't truly canon unless confirmed by the show?
Canon is entirely up to the fans not just in Doctor Who
Yeti Unless its the peter cushing movie.
I always wondered why he loved humans so much, he gave hints here and there, complimented us at every turn, but he never gave a defined reason on why he cares about us so much and why he would give his live(s) to save us.
He hasn't always complimented humans remember number 9?
Yea true but before 9 his other regenerations loved humans as well, some might have thought we were dumb but none the less he still risked his lives to save our planet and they never explained why he would do that.
PsychoticSoul91 i think its because humans remind him of whats good in the universe do we make mistakes? yes we do but we are always evolving and we have so much potential which is why the doctors like humans and this is from the doctor in this clip
I think I'll go with the discussion between Tom Baker's Doctor and Sarah Jane when he comments that humans have such limited little minds and he doesn't know why he likes us so much and she just answers it's because he has such good taste, to which he agrees. :)
Cryer24597 Well humans do look like time-lords... which would make him think of them when he looks at us...
Clara's body IS in there, returned to earth. As she looks at the Earth, her time frozen self in the future, after all her adventures - still returned to trap street, and died. Time makes fools of us all.
I love how this scene helps to demonstrate just how truly alien the Doctor can be...
He’s on a completely different level, like the sphere in Flatland. He might as well be from another dimension.
0:35
Gabeuscus; Where are we going?
Tobuscus; You mean… WHEN. Are we going?
*Maniacal laughter*
"I think it brings out my eyes."
"It hurts my eyes."
BURN
I think if that was a Capaldi episode, would would probably see his darker side treat the other characters in a more ignorant way. When I say that, you know like how he snaps his moods with Clara and others? He would talk to Clara worse than how Eleven spoken to her when they witnessed the death of the human race and the planet being burnt to death, I think Eleven deals with it more abrupt and shows more respect for her. I think its similar scene to when Clara just flips out at twelve , in Kill the Moon. How he just leaves her to deal with it. I do hope we see more of Clara's anger in series nine as she feels as though now its the right time to talk to him as an ambassador for us lot. I felt for her very much, when she decided to leave half way through, but only to have a quick paddy with him. I think its good though on the other hand as he puts it into context of what really happens and how she learns by him. I just love Doctor Who but do miss Elevens sparky, energy though. Was like a breathe of fresh air. Always having a fun time no matter the circumstances. Like if you love Clara. Twelves doctors fantastic, but I do like his dark Eire personality. I think in some aspects its what the show needed. But will always miss Matt.
I miss him
Same
AGR IO Hes supposed to be coming back in 2017 Christmas
wait what +Anthony Fieldhouse 2 really?! or are you lying
Anthony Fieldhouse 2 what's your source?
We all do..!! 😢
By the way, is it just me thinks this scene is very underrated in DW?
It's probably my favourite scene from a pretty disappointing season, to be honest.
Seriously one of the best scenes from Matt Smith's era.
It was lovely to see the old orange spacesuit again
actually her body has been left in an alley way somewhere
No, Rigsy took the body to her family so that she could get a proper burial.
-joke
...... Not really that funny.
y'know what they say, comedy is subjective
I laughed out loud.
I really love the layered writing here - He's talking about humanity in general, about Clara as he interacts with her every day on an interpersonal level, the echo situation, AND his own nature (it is, to a great extent, curiosity that keeps him going) all at the same time.
While Rose and Amy had their brief "I'm dead in the future!" freakouts on their first visits to the future (which says something, not necessarily the same thing, about their natures), it took Clara several episodes to think of this, but when she does, it hits her all the harder we get to see a more vulnerable side to her and in fact, the first glimpse at what is in fact, a recurring fear of hers (her own, uncertain future/death)
But we also can tell from what exactly upsets her and how she speaks of it that she truly understands the implications of what she's seeing and giving deep thoughts to her surroundings.
It only occurred to me now that the way his eyes dart about reminds me of William Hartnell and Tom Baker...
I've always thought that Matt Smith brought back some of the whimsy and childlike wonder Tom Baker displayed as the Doctor. That's why I cried during the meeting of The Doctor, and The Curator. My two favorite Doctors together at last!
@3:40 when Clara says that everyone must look like nothing yo him. I almost looks like the Doctor remembers what Wilfred said to him, it almost looks like theres a bit of pain in his eyes when she says it
I can't stop crying everytime I see Matt Smith
estopasowner “But time’s changed and so must I’
How many times has the Doctor been asked about his opinion o humanity? I think he is getting a bit tired of EVERYONE asking about it.
Johnny? What are you doing here?
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Love the show! So much that I even bought a Screwdriver from amazon X)
JohnnyFireFlame Sweet! Favourite DW villain (if you have one)?
ELEVEN & CLARA WERE PERFECT TOGETHER!
2:22
"Stop it with the eyes. Don't dew that with the eyes. How dew you do that with the eyes? It's like they INFLATE."
This doctor is so huggable 😆
+Mandy Pippins Not anymore.
+Phil Ledwith Peter is no fun...
+Derpy Who!? Peter is tons of fun. He is my favourite Doctor.
I stongly disagree with Phil and legs, and strongly agree with ravingmonkey216. I greatly enjoyed Capaldi's run as the Doctor - who else could
(SPOILERS)
Ride into a medevial arena on a freaking *tank* playing an electric guitar! And it's *him* playing the guitar, as he was in a rock band IRL, too!
Clara is
I miss Matt Smith and I'm going to miss Jenna, dearly.
0:24 Did the Tardis just answer clara?
The Tardis was rejecting her apology :P They didn't like each other for a long time :P The tardis is sentient.
Haha yeah.
i agree with tardis . i hate clara
well, yes, it IS alive, you do know that!
10th was a great doctor and i understand why fellow whovians like him but 11th is and always will be my doctor
The suit from 'The Impossible Planet' :D!!!
Craig McInally and water of mars
The Doctor is the ultimate Schroeder's Cat. By his nature of being a time traveler, and being able to cross his own timeline, he is simultaneously, not yet been born, just been born, currently running around, and dead all at the same time.
"Cheat sheet" I love how she does exactly that for 12 in Series 9.
0:47 Six trying explain his coat to everyone he meets in a nutshell.
When Clara said sorry the tardis responded ( It's Okay ) but you got to liston very carefully to hear it.
I just thought, when he's wondering if he had an umbrella, I think he'd referring to his 7th incarnation, Sylvester Mccoy. I really hope so, I loved that Doctor.
10: "Wibbly wobbly timey wimey...stuff."
11: "Wibbly vortex...and so on."
12: COME ON AUGUST HURRY UP AND COME ALREADY
Nice.... He still has the Krop Tor spacesuit!
He was pretty quick to respond when she said humans were nothing to him. He spent a lot of time protecting Earth, so for her to say that is just hurtful and rude.
What I think we are going to have, is that we're going to like Clara more with Capaldi than Smith. For example, 9th and Rose got on well and were great together, but, 9/10 people would say 10th and Rose were brilliant together, I think this is what's going to happen here, that seems to happen a lot with doctors. Another example is 3rd with Sarah Jane, they were great, but 9/10 people would say 4th and Sarah Jane were fantastic with each other.
I guess I'm that one person because I never liked Rose to begin with (and I still don't like her).
I think you're right. This is one of the only scenes where she is tolerable. I was starting to think she was a throwback to all the annoying companions in the classic series. Very few were as good as the reboot series companions who had way more depth. When Sara Jane was with 3 she was as feisty and irritating as Clara was in series 7. But she was alot better with Tom Baker. Adrick was a complete ass with terrible acting and the other two female companions at that time were poorly written compared to Martha, Donna, Amy, Rory, River and Rose.
Could also look at it the other way, where 11/Clara was more like 10/Rose (both with a relatively heavily implied relationship/attraction that got in the way of the story at times), while 12/Clara could be more like 9/Rose (though without even their casual flirting), where the relationship was much more Doctor-companion than anything else. Focus less on things between them, let Clara develop more as a character. It should be fun.
LOOOL Rose was better with 9. Rose's best moments in series 2 were probably in Rise of the Cybermen through to The Satan Pit and the finale.
What she said really struck me.
People who can time travel, could in one minute, visit the hospital to watch themselves being born. In the next minute they could visit their own grave, years after their death.
It's no wonder time travellers are always the wisest people.
Imagine your sitting next to a time traveller and you realize that if you asked, they could tell you how you die. When, where and how in exact detail. Which would really suck, because you know there's nothing you can do about it.
(Unless you're the Doctor, of course).
The answer to Clara's question is all in how you look at it... if you look at time in a linear, straight line fashion, from start to end, then you might see people you meet in different times as "ghost's". So for instance, from Clara's perspective as a 21st. century girl, a person she meets in 1850 has really been dead for a very long time...
But that's not how time works, is it? Because that person from 1850 was not dead and buried, waiting for the Tardis and Clara to come along to be alive again. They were alive before the Tardis landed, and are alive after the Tardis leaves.
All time is connected-- everything that was ever born, lived or died is in that process right now, wherever that happen to be. The past, present, or future are just concepts, or constructs.
So from that perspective, a person you meet in 1850, 1980, or 2940 is just as alive and involved in that process as the person you meet on a bus, going to work from the time you consider your own. There is no difference.
So they're not ghosts-- just people at different points in the time stream.
But that's the point, Clara is a human she sees the world from point A to point B like all human beings do because that is our limited understanding of the world and the universe.
For the last few years I’ve been struggling with a crippling existential crisis. This choked me up and really helped me at a time I needed it. Thank you, seriously thank you.
I love that 3 different doctors have worn that space suit
"What's wrong? Did the TARDIS say something to you? _Are you being mean?"_
I swear that the doctor just gets bored being alone so he just gets people to travel around with him and then they die
Well, more like he goes mad after traveling too long without companions. Remember "Time Lord Victorious" ?
That made no sense.
Which one "made no sense" to you? Because both of them make sense in the context of the show.
Am I the only one who thought of the Timelord Victorious when he is in that suit?
it is that suit...
It's the same suit he wore in Waters of Mars and The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit. Kind of funny that the Doctor takes stuff he finds on adventure and just stuffs them in nearby closets in case he needs them later. He even has the witches from the Shakespeare episode stashed somewhere with his Agatha Christie novels.
Raguleader He probably has entire rooms full of random mementos somewhere, full of stuff like Susan's shoe, Rose's forgotten jacket, Martha's phone, Liz Ten's mask..
Awww, Susan's shoe. I actually just watched that serial last week.
@@KendrixTermina This is Kind Of Sad to Think.
I feel likeclara is the first companion that the doctors had where they just ping back and forth... I love it
It's exactly these scenes that convinced me that the Doctor and this companion will have a more complex friendship than just "cuddly-cuddly" all the time. As much as I like it when they just hang out and have fun together, I appreciate every serious scene of this caliber, especially if it's minimalist and to the point. This scene also sold me on Clara as a character. I've liked Jen for years and had no problem with her, but until I saw Hide, I found Clara to be just a random girl with a kind heart and a cute face. After seeing her express doubt and hint at her fears more openly, I could immediately sympathise with her a lot more. This whole scene is a perfect blend of both the trust and the sense of caution that the Doc and his companions should always have. (I personally don't like when the TARDIS crew is just always impossibly chummy and never even notes there might be some differences needed to be overcome by mutual understanding. So kudos to Neil Cross for this scene, and several others in this episode.)
Clara’s thumbs up after “shallow breaths” is my favourite.
This was the best episode of Series 7 by a wide margin.
0:53 ...looking at this, I'm beginning to reconsider wether the amount of insults exchanged between the two has really increased that much in series 8....
They both have so much closeted vanity going on, too, so OF COURSE they take cheap shots at each other's looks...
Also, obviously, great quote/exchange, sort of echoing the "you look like giants" comment he gave to Wilfred, but also given the many layers of context going here, about humanity in general, the current Clara mystery situation and the Doctor's curiosity in general - can't keep sulking for too long if something unexplained crosses his radar too insistently, but also showing Clara's more sensitive sides.
How many times has he used that suit now?!
Impossible Planet, Waters of Mars, Hide, and Listen - he must really like it...
Well ys it brings out his eyes
Dante Giello Makes my eyes hurt ;)
clol159 And 42!
Dante Giello It sure does! twilightswarden.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/3-07-32-killcolor-4.jpg
Satan pit...
Does anyone else feel like Eleven and Clara were channeling Rose and Ten in this episode (only they were being far less annoying)?
A lot of episodes in Series 7 foreshadowed the return of the Time War plot, along with David Tennant and Billie Piper, and this was one of them.
Every time I saw dr's companion show their mercy, I just can't help crying 😭 yep, doctor always needs a companion.
I love the return of the orange hazmat suit 10 wore.
Gives you chills every time. Reminds me of Kurisu from steins gate. Time machines just make life more empty. Dulls your regard for human life. Clara makes this point clear, and does this brilliantly.
Every Doctor looks good in that spacesuit.
I know some people would have preferred that Victorian Clara be the Doctor's companion, but Jenna's performance in this one scene is why I believe none of that matters.
I dont have a problem with clara either, as long as her story integrates with the doctor's, the way it's mostly been since new who started. Which is why i dont take to s11 well... There's no narrative connection between the doctor and her companions. They just happen to travel together but develop separately, if even.
I love when The Doctor says "We are staying in this exact spot, if i can work out how to do it." Because he doesnt just need to worry about the temporal shift. The entire universe is moving, and if you time travel, without moving through space, you'll end up in the same spot, but not on the planet, cause the planet will have moved.
Eyyyy nice
The opposite is also true: to the Doctor, everyone who ever was or will be is still alive. Which is probably a big part of why he keeps changing companions. As long as they aren't with him where he is confronted with their mortality, he can think of them as all being alive and well, just outside the door of the TARDIS.
Love that he still wears the space suit he got in the Satan Pit
1:59 some how I heard "don't blink"
I wish the lighting in the tardis stayed like it did in the scene
3:32 WOW DOES THAT SHOT LOOK LIKE THE 12th DOCTORS POSE OR NOT?!
Oh, the reason The TARDIS didn't "like" Clara was cause I bet she knew Clara was in the Doctor's timestream and could sense it!
Clara doesn't realize that "we're going always" is actually a sentence, it's just the verb is intransitive. we aren't going anywhere, we're just on our way to being dead and gone, all of us, even the Doctor - he's had his final regeneration and he's showing her his appreciation of the ephemerality of things, as 11 once said "I'm not running from things I'm running to them before they flare and fade forever". this episode hides the saddest and most beautiful truth of the universe that "everything ends", but the Doctor is the only one who understands the full weight of it, hence later Clara says to his younger self with an old man's face, "your eyes, you're so much younger."
"I'm not running from things I'm running to them before they flare and fade forever" It sounds cool, but it's quite wrong. I mean the Doctor has all the time and space at his disposal, he's got a freaking TIME MACHINE! So what things are flaring and fading forever? If something doesn't exist anymore, he can always go back in time to when those things still were there. Unless some specific cases that are time-locked, but even then it sometimes works (like in Day of the Doctor). Yes, it sounds cool, but it lost the meaning with a time machine. Wanna see some dinos? Let's go back in time. It doesn't matter, that the dinos don't exist anymore, that they basically flare and fade out of existence, you've got a time machine, dude, you can go back to see them by pulling some levers, easy as that. They are not time-locked, they aren't impossible to reach, hidden in an alternate universe or anything, they just went extinct. It's easy to go back in time with the TARDIS to see them again. So yea. A cool sounding quote, that doesn't really make sense, considering what programme they're part off.
"Did the TARDIS say something to you? Are YOU being mean?!" *slaps the TARDIS with a glow*
I don't know why but I started laughing like never before, hah :D
I loved Smith's showing off and his hilarious sense of humor(the fez thing never gets old). On the other hand, the fact that he pretty much knew EVERYTHING made the Whoniverse of the Moffat era seem incredibly small(that and the fact it kept getting blown up). Now don't get me wrong, I know the Doctor has 1200 years of experience. The problem is that he keeps spitting all of it out of his mouth.
This motif of the new series about the Doctor being a motor mouth is getting old fast. Sylvester McCoy or William Hartnell for example never said more than had to be said and that made their Whoniverses so big. Anything could happen in those worlds.
I'm glad he actually used that suit as Eleven! Ten just had that for ages it was so under utilised when Matt took over
Steven Moffat actually helped most of the people who created the good episodes. I mean like some he will even come up with the plot.
"The Tardis, she's time!" The way 11 said that made him sound like a man eaw with power and without regret
Tennant had a place where Clara could have kept her umbrella, right? RIGHT?
Ya that's true TENNIT IS THE BEST
+Fluffls Who's Tennit?
That's right, Who.
I know David Tennant, but have never heard of Tennit.
How
2:28- He looks so adorable
He always does
It makes me sad to think that they will soon have to replace the ending clip... :'(
don't
not yet I have just stopped crying about Phan so please, that's too much
This Tardis set honestly is incredible. The best of the new series by far
Yup
I wonder why so many people comment on the Doctor's 'space suit'. Does it really matter how many shows it's been seen in? He obviously likes it. LOL My children and now my grandchildren love the many faces of the Doctor. And the Companions. Right now the grandchildren are asking me when the new season will begin. I think we may have fish sticks and custard.. just for fun.. that evening when they come to visit me. LOL And for dessert I will find whatever they have closest to jelly babies at the supermarket. Can't wait for the latest season.
Yes. Fish FINGERS. But the packaging here calls it STICKS.LOL So we had the fish sticks.
1:06 this part scared the absolute crap out of me when I first saw it
1:09 scared me.
Yeah that was creepy
0:42 Ok, maybe I'm stupid, but since when did this TARDIS have a giant spotlight in it?
This scene always bothered me with the lighting like…..wtf even IS that?