It certainly broke my heart a little. Especially when I think about what a wonderful place it was when I first joined. Thank you for taking the time to watch my video!
Thanks for your video! I’m sorry about how it went with your Etsy shop! My story is kind of similar, I had a booming Etsy plant shop that I started from my backyard. After 2020 big nurseries and greenhouses started selling on Etsy, saturating the platform with large amounts of plants. Since then it’s just hard for me to compete against these big companies. I also am an artist with an art shop that has struggled as well. I believe the true artists get lost in the sea of cheap digital wall art that has taken over Etsy.
Wow. Just wow. I can’t believe they are even allowed to run their business that way… it’s so unfair to the artisan! I bought a couple of handmade items from Etsy last summer and I think that’s the only time I’ve used Etsy. I like to browse but I’ve found it’s not as nice as it used to be because it’s not restricted to handmade items anymore. Now my heart goes out to the artists / handmade sellers on there!! I watched a couple of videos a few months back by artists who said they were leaving Etsy due to changes but they didn’t go into great detail. Hopefully you’re able to find an option that will work for you.
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment! And thank you for your thoughtful kind words! They mean a lot to me! I hope I can find an option that works too!
I wholeheartedly agree. I stopped supporting Etsy when they started allowing Manufacturing Partners. Like you, I used to be a jeweler, so I already knew what it would be like to compete with competitors from places like China. No American can afford to live on Chinese wages. What’s more, our overhead if many times greater than a Chinese jeweler’s! As for the fees, you may as well go to a gallery and pay them the 50% commission-at least they take care of marketing, advertising, sales, fulfillment, and customer service for you!
I started selling earrings on Etsy in 2020, was doing decent that year and then swiftly tanked in 2021-now. I kept my prices lower than they should’ve been and it still didn’t help. After many tears and feeling like such a failure I officially quit making earrings about a month ago. A weight has been lifted and I’m much happier. I didn’t even realize how much all the changes affected my business
Thank you very much for all the true and honest information you share, it is really helpful. I have a friend who started a shop, sold two items in the 4 days or so, and , when she saw all the taxes, she closed it immediately after sending what she sold.
I found this video & am totally shocked at what you had to say. I have bought, but never sold on Etsy. I forget who told me to not purchase the items I was looking for on Etsy, but after listening to this video, makes me not want to ever buy from Etsy again. I will forward this video to my daughter who has been talking about starting an Etsy shop. Thank you for posting this.
Thank you for the encouraging comment! I'm not sure what I'm going to do now, but I know I'm not going back to Etsy. However, I'm just one person and this was just my experience. Maybe other people are okay with what's going on there, I don't know. But thank you for taking the time to leave a comment!
Great information. I have been on Etsy since 2010 and it has changed so much. I still sell on there but what I sell does not have high overhead and it is mostly paperie and ribbons. I still feel like it is not a worth while place to sell anymore. Thanks for this great insight.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Wall Street happened. Publically traded stocks and investor profits are more important. I ran into the same thing with eBay sales after the pandemic hit the shipping went really high and the fees just kept adding up. That was a time frame that a lot of thefts were going on in the stores and I couldn't figure out at first how someone could sell products for below wholesale prices (which I couldn't compete with). So I too finally closed down my shop and got out of business. I am in the process of doing art mixed media and scrapbooking. I will probably do sales locally and word of mouth. My daughter had a handmade business and she has never recovered her sales back to pre-pandemic levels.
I appreciate your video. I am just starting a handmade business and I have seen lots of videos of people leaving Etsy. I know some have made their own Shopify sites and some are doing wholesale on Faire. I wish more consumers knew about how Etsy is treating their shop owners because maybe they would stop shopping on the platform. I wish you the best.
Thank you so much for the encouraging and supportive comments! It means a lot to me! I looked at shopify but it was really complicated. I'm looking at square space now. It seems like it might be easier? I don't know yet. We will see!
Greed is what happened! I appreciate you coming on and telling the ugly truth about what has happened. Not to many people would have the courage to do what you have done and I commend you Dear lady. It’s one thing to earn very little because of all the fees & charges,this is horrible and so very disappointing! But to actually owe money after designing and spending a full work day is mind blowing! To put it bluntly “they” robbed you! I wish that I could do anything to make what has happened to you better. I will pray that God provides a new revenue of financial income, what will be a blessing to prosper you and your family. I believe in the power of prayer. Say it, claim it and believe . You have already done the hard part. Blessings to you and your family. ❤🦋❤️🦋 Sincerely, Lisa
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment! I really appreciate it. I hope someday I can find a way to make a new income too! I do think Etsy could turn it around if they wanted. Maybe someday they will. It was a very wonderful place once. It could be again!
I totally agree with you. Greed and robbery. I will also be praying for your work world to change. God Bless you and keep you! May he give you wisdom and grace and knowledge and guidance of how to move on.
This is where I'm at with Etsy and my art. Its starting to cost me more to sell and ship on Etsy than is worth it. I made $1 on one of my prints last year. I'm about to leave completely but I don't have much of an online presence off Etsy right now.
That's exactly where I am at, too! I've been looking into square space but I don't think I have enough of a following yet to have enough traffic. Let me know if you come up with any good ideas and I will do the same for you! Here's hoping we figure something out! 💓💓💓 Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment@
What a sad story :( I used to sell on Etsy and have thought about returning but I think I'll continue working to make my own website. I wish you the best!! Thanks for sharing this!
I tried to open an Etsy shop as a yarn dyer around 2020, it was impossible to make it work. People were selling similar items for way below what they were worth, making it hard for me to charge a true living cost, plus as a new shop nobody found me, the only sales I made were from people I had driven to etsy myself from a youtube channel I had and from IG. Then the etsy fee's made no sense, I had fully researched them but what they were charging me didn't match with the advertised fees and the way they separate them on the reports makes it very hard to track. In the end I gave up, and if I ever set up again I will eat the cost for my own site rather than go back to Etsy, especially since you get no advertising or promoton from them as a new shop.
Etsy used to be such a wonderful place. It's too bad things had to happen like they did. It is definitely not the same place it used to be. I'm so sorry to hear your story. It seems more and more artists and craftspeople are feeling the same way. You aren't alone!
Damn, that black diamond ring story 💔 Etsy is now a publicly traded company, which means it's all about making investors happy - either by growth of the stock or the dividends they pay out. I knew this would happen, when they went public. It was the right decision to leave. That's why they accept dropshippers now. A ton of new sellers, a ton more revenue for Etsy, which they communicate publicly quarterly to investors, this attracting more investors. It's a wet Wallstreet dream.
It really was heartbreaking. to go from having a solid career to having nothing at all... Oh well. At least I decided to start a RUclips channel out of it! I'm enjoying it very much! Even if I am not at the same income level yet.
I am so annoyed! I took the time and shared some valuable information from my research as a reply to this comment, since I'm building an ecommerce business. I found some good options to get your feet off the ground without burning piles of cash. And RUclips deleted my comment! Probably because I named the providers.
I've had almost the same experience with Etsy. Did very well the first couple of years and now every sale is a struggle. I do mostly custom portraits and the competition has increased exponentially with so many people willing to work for pennies. I'm very close to closing my shop too.
Art fairs! Of course you would need your own website too - with art fairs you will have to keep at it since people like to develop a relationship with their investment. I used to sell my husbands ceramics and it took 2-3 years of returning before things became more consistent and reliable. Many artists do Patreon and get support that way as well as drive their traffic to their sites through their vlogs - again it takes patience though. You did a great job with this video. Wishing u the best ❤ west Texas - I sell my home sewn goods on Amazon handmade - I have 3 kids too so I don’t have time for social marketing myself - Amazon has to work for me for now.
Art fairs are great! Unfortunately, between my youngish kids and my Crohn's disease I'm not really able to do that right now, but hopefully some day! Thank you so much for leaving a comment!
You have 791 subscribers and I am new to you today 😀. I am appalled at what all Etsy is about and the more you talked the madder I got LOL (seriously) Something will work out for you in time. I am 74 and just starting to learn to paint watercolor. I hope to maybe sell cards/bookmarks/small prints etc to friends and craft fairs. No way could I or would I want to deal with that mess you described! Tfs
I can hardly believe I'm in the 700s! It's gone up way faster than I thought it would! And yeah, etsy is a mess right now, to the point that I'm looking for alternative ways to sell my work. It was a great space to be once, but not so much anymore. Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment! I really appreciate it!❤
I love Etsy but it's a shame what has happened to the site. I've heard similar stories from so many other sellers, who also decided to leave. Besides the fees and rules in order for your store to be seen in searches, I've seen so much copyright infringement happening. It's so disheartening to see from a site that started out so great.
Я знаю что видео старое и возможно вы не увидите мой комментарий. Я занималась бизнесом тоже раньше и когда на рынке появляются такие конкуренты как Китай, вам нужно было поднять цену а не опустить, поднять ее так что бы с одного украшения получать двойную прибыль. Вы бы продавали столько же сколько и продали но это была бы нормальная прибыль. Делаете акцент на том что вы и именно вы делаете ручной труд. Если вы окажетесь в такой ситуации ещё раз, просто повысите цены) мы делали так. Мы делали один выезд и поднимали свои деньги, нашим конкурентам нужно было работать в 4 раза больше что бы поднять эту сумму. )
Hi Amy. Wow, what a terrible way to treat people. I was considering setting up an Etsy shop, but after watching your video there's no way in hell that's gonna happen. I've been selling my art now for 11 years, and art fairs are my biggest source of income. I get to connect with people and chat (which I do lots of, not gonna lie). An artist friend of mine says his biggest source as an artist is prints of his work. I wonder if an art fair would be something for you to try. Whatever you decide to try, I hope that it works out. p.s. - Subscribed!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. That was so eye opener I currently sell on Etsy it hasn’t been quite a year it’s slow moving but ok nothing spectacular . There are many e-commerce out there but which one right 🤷🏽♀️ I hope the best for you and many other artists out here who’ve had bad experiences. 🙏🏼❤️
I rarely comment but felt compelled to leave a few words here for encouragement as well as maybe helping with the YT algorithm. That Etsy stuff is horrible. Really hope that your new endeavor takes off. I've subscribed, and will make sure to catch all your videos as well check out the earlier ones. Found you through your "art haul" vid - it was recommended and I do enjoy watching those. WIshing you much success
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment! I appreciate it so much. And thank you for subscribing. I have another art haul planned for this friday, in case you're interested! In this one nothing that I bought was over $15! I'm really excited about it actually! Hope you have a great day!❤
Ugh, Etsy is the worst! I also closed all of my Etsy shops. I used to sell my art, handmade jewelry, and handmade mermaid costumes, as well as pet portraits. It wasn't until I started selling costumes, that I saw the demons come out of the woodwork! Holy moly! And it just continued to get worse in all of my shops. And I learned that 90% of everything on Etsy is actually dropshipped from China. Including art. I used to be soooo stressed out when I had those Etsy shops. The vile customers and the vile competitors. All anyone has to do is buy the cheapest thing in your shop, leave a 1 star review, and put your shop out of business.
Problem is that people will buy your stuff cheap, you can get a good following if it's cheap enough, but you can't make a living at it, as you pointed out...
I am really bad at business. I can't keep up with all of Etsy's changes and fees. And I really don't understand all the ins and outs of getting 'seen'. My views are really low. But even the difference between my sales in Jan. 2022 and Jan. 2023 are disheartening. Fortunately, I don't have to depend on Etsy income to live. But you're absolutely right. Etsy has changed. Where are these outside ads that are supposedly driving people to my shop?
I was just discovering Etsy. It just seems so expensive. I wish there was something like Etsy but only for artist create their own work. Something like what Etsy used to be. I’d love to know if there are any alternatives.
I’m a graphic designer and design scarves and they are printed in Canada and Italy. I have to compete with resellers who import scarves from China. Their scarves are cheaper than mine. Lately I sold three large silk scarves and calculated that my profit was 6 US dollar… 😂 due to Etsy fees and taxes. Besides that the seo of Etsy is still a nightmare for me, Etsy isn’t bringing me visitors. So I can better leave Etsy.
It definitely is a problem and not like it used to be. I had the same problem competing the cheap jewelry from China. The only solution I found was to leave, unfortunately. I hope you find a solution! Thank you for watching!
I've been thinking about opening an Etsy store. Not anymore. Thank you. I feel like I've dodged a bullet. I had wondered about the "handmade" thing. When multiple shops offer "hand made" items that are identical, with no variation whatsoever, it really made me wonder.
I sell on Etsy but haven't reached the 10k in one year yet. I'm just selling supplies but I have noticed a lot of items that are from someplace like ali express and people who have just bought a cheap necklace from there and didn't do anything to change it and resell it. A lot of non handmade shops now and I don't think they really care as long as they are making money. :(
I've seen some people put like a watermark with their shop or logo on their photos, I wonder if that would make it so they don't use your photos as much on offsite ads. I hope I get more sales one day but I also hope I don't because I won't make any money either with offside ads. Hope I can get to $9,999. 🤪
And something else I've seen people in my category of supplies do is list an item with different colors or sizes for super cheap like under a dollar but the cheapest option is always sold out. So their products looks really cheap in the search but it's not. I saw one shop that had items on sale for literally $0.11, $0.18... They would be losing money but ALL of those priced items were sold out waitlist and I bet will never be in stock.😡
Yeah, unfortunately, Etsy isn't the way it used to be. It really is a shame, because it was a lovely place to be a few years back. I hope you find a way to sell your supplies! Thank you for watching!
@@Confetticat1 Yes that's an old Aliexpress trick. Also, sometimes that very low price is just the cheapest option of the listing which is not the one customers are coming for
Your Etsy story is disheartening. Very sorry to hear how genuine artisans are feeling the squeeze. I think as your RUclips channel grows having direct links to your website will help. Having an email subscription on your web page is nice for those who are looking for special sales, new work etc. Thanks for sharing your story. Its bloody hard for the artist these days. Hugs
I'm just glad I have something else I'm good at that I can try to make a living from (my art). My heart breaks for those who don't have something else they can make a go of. :( It's really sad.
I'll be honest, I think having your own website would be more beneficial than trying to sell other things over on Etsy. Yes, you would have to pay for it, but you won't have to compete with other people and you won't have to sell on a lost whenever Etsy decide to change their policies to make more money on the creators back while they starve.
Yes, I agree with you. I just started putting something together on Squarespace this week. I may not have a ton of traffic yet, But I think it's probably for the best. And if things don't work out, oh well. Thank you so much for taking the time to give me your input and thoughts! I really appreciate it!
@@winterwoodsstudio I'm happy to hear that! I think you will be fine. You already have people behind you on other social media platforms. It's not like you're starting from scratch. Plus, now you can use Google's tools to make ads without being penalized financially now by the platform hosting your artworks and jewelleries. I wish you good luck!
How did it go on Squarespace? I have learned absolutely no one will find you without paid advertising from somewhere. Thanks for this honest review of Etsy.❤
The sad price of globalization and our addiction to getting things "cheap", not to mention large corporations getting so big they just crush the small operator. Funny too how things always seem to only work in their favor. My only advice is whether you do it on etsy (I haven't used them) or elsewhere build the brand around you and focus on quality and the unique. A lot of the stuff that comes from places like China is going to be crap, often not even the real thing (say if it's stones or gold etc.). Alternately if you can't beat 'em join 'em start selling premade items from a dropshipper. Just my 2 cents, you've probably thought of these things anyway....
Confused on the requirement for including shipping. I see many products on Etsy that charge for shipping. Keep the faith. Hopefully your teaching will lead to growth and a future web based business.
You can charge shipping but they charge you a 6.5% fee and give listings with shipping a lower rank in their seo engine, which means you appear lower in search. So where your listing might have been on page one, it might now be on page 11, which happened to me. Thank you for your kind words!❤
I'm confused too. Because there seem to be an awful lot of items in my category that charge shipping yet show up in search long before my item. I really can't figure it out.
There are other factors that go into an item's search ranking. Hundreds of them. Like if you are a star seller, how many negative reviews your shop has, the click through rate of the item, how clear the photos are, the length of time a store has been open, etc. It's not just the shipping. Hope that helps!
I sell digital art and just this year my sales have dropped so low my shop is basically dead. Digital sellers are being out priced by AI art and people from other countries where their cost of living is 8x lower than USA so they’re happy to make .50 profit a sell. Same with Creative Fabrica. I don’t even bother putting art on there anymore. Why bother? I went a got a part time job this week so I can make ends meet while I switch my business to physical art prints because they can’t compete with USA shipping costs. Sucks.
My graph looks like yours, just a few years back, it was a nice completion to the home income. The ROI was getting smaller and smaller with the years, starting 2015. I am an international seller, and was down in exposure at some point, it is another reason i couldnt use many other sites as an option, some dont do business with other countries. Their search logarithm is heavily manipulated to their needs. Sad, but thats reality of modern businesses. Take care ❤️
Yes, it is sad, isn't it? I'm sorry for your troubles and I hope you find a new way to sell! If you find one, let me know, and I will do the same for you! Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment! I appreciate it!
Funny you mention 2015....something happened to etsy in oct.of 2015 ...they changed something ....I was doing crazy sales right up to oct 2015 and then it bottomed out suddenly ..like I as invisible all of a sudden......they changed how search worked..... I can pinpoint it to that exact date it went south.....
It’s not your fault that the shipping company lost their package. What kills me is usps holds no responsibility if they don’t do their job properly. An Etsy seller’s responsibility should stop at putting it in the mailbox. If the customer wants their money back if their package gets lost then they should upgrade to priority shipping. Etsy is not Amazon and these are handmade items. Being punished for a mistake that USPS made is not fair!
I was horrified to hear your story! Producers in third world countries are increasingly being granted fair-trade deals to ensure they receive a fair price for their goods, and yet greedy corporations such as Etsy are now taking advantage of skilled artists without fair recompense. It is disgusting, and I for one will be boycotting Etsy from now on. I purchased from them thinking I was supporting independent artisans like yourself, but now I feel completely duped. Thank goodness you made the break. You deserve so much better, and I wish you and your future ventures all the very best. 💕💕
It was infuriating and also pretty sad, especially when I compare it to how it was when I first started there. It was a beautiful idea back then. Thank you for taking the time to watch my video! I appreciate it!
I am sorry you are not the only one, Etsy is a corporation,is in the stock market the have to report to the stock holders, at cost of handcrafters like us. If don't work for us better our own website, or handcrafters shows.
Yeah I came to that same conclusion. That's why I started here on youtube to build a base for myself and I just opened my own shop yesterday! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.
I sell vintage items on Etsy for about 3 years now. Used to be only for vintage and handmade items but now a bunch of mass produced junk and digital downloads are what I see. My sales are very slow and I was contacted by an Etsy Rep who offered me my own website, when I gladly accepted, I never heard back from her. I'm not sure what's going on with Etsy but it sounds like they have completely forgotten who helped get their platform off the ground and have become very greedy. So sorry to hear about your hard work for nothing, that is so disappointing and unacceptable.
Hi, you seem a very kind person. God bless you, please tell me, do you have any advice for me as i wanna start my shop of a hair mask on etsy? Your words will be my guidance. Thank you
I don't know. Honestly, I think your best bet is to try to build up enough of a following on social media, and then set up your own shop, which is what I am in the process of doing. I don't think that with the way Etsy is structed now, that it will be sustainable for small artists and craftsmen in the future. I hope that helps!
Etsy has become such a dumpster. Its also over saturated with third party sellers. I'm constantly having to cross reference if I make a purchase there to make sure the shop I'm in isn't selling stuff that doesn't belong to them. Its like wading through a sea of amazon crap. I'm unsatisfied as both an artist trying to sell and a supporter trying to buy.
yeah, I forgot to mention that in the video. It's not even just manufacturing partners, people are just outright buying crap from cheap wholesalers and then selling it on Etsy. And near the end I had someone copy a lot of my photos and then make a etsy site and try to sell stuff from my photos. It's gotten really out of hand...
AI art has now taken over as well - So someone who creates digital portraits by hand now has competition with people who are creating them via AI and charging dollar store pricing for that same item. It's sad.
I was thinking about running a business on Etsy but now I wont. I had heard that their fees are gone up through other artists on RUclips but I didn't know it was as bad as it is so thank you for alerting me because now I know. I hope you can find a place to sell your prince I would like to do the same but I'm not going to at sea Etsy sorry I'm using a microphone. I really want to thank you because I was seriously thinking of it. If you do find a place to sell your prints and aren't please let us know because I would really be interested. Thank you and take care!
It's true the fees a pretty steep now compared to what they used to be. It's still probably the best place to get found in search, so if you could find a way to do it and still make some profit, it might help build up your client base. But it wasn't a great option for me, at least as a jeweler. Hope you find a way to sell you art! Thank you for leaving a comment!
That's straight up robbery💀 So many of my favorite artists made their own websites,because etsy is packing it's bags full of money,it gets from others!! If you want to start selling more or new things,please switch to another site and promote it on your socials!!
@@winterwoodsstudio I found your channel through your art supply video,pretty sure others did too☺ (artist vlogs,day in a life of an artist,art supply hauls,sketchbook/journaling ) these are very popular topics in the art community,maybe you can find more creative minds with these kind of videos😊(only if you're interested in these kind of videos of course)
I can’t believe you spent 4 hours on a product that only sold for $50. You were only making $12.50 an hour if everything else was free. This was a money loosing proposition before any Etsy fees at all.
Thinking $12.50 an hour is a loosing proposition depends on your viewpoint. $12 an hour working from home, and not having to pay daycare for my babies worked out great. It was almost double minimum wage in my state.
A shame about Etsy. It served its purpose though. I think you can now sell on Instagram? I’ve also seen ads recently about online art booths? I haven’t looked into any of these options as yet (-: Marion
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment. You can sell on Instagram now, although I haven't tried it yet, or even looked into it. I've never heard about online art booths! I will have to see if I can find more information on that! Thanks!
I can't mute it. I film at when my kids are at school and one of my kids is a special medical needs child. I need to be available for the school to reach at any moment. So no, I can't do anything about it. Maybe before you leave a judgy comment you should practice some compassion. Be the change you want to see.
Thank you for making such an informative video. This infuriates me and I will no longer patronize Etsy. Corporate greed at its worst.
It certainly broke my heart a little. Especially when I think about what a wonderful place it was when I first joined. Thank you for taking the time to watch my video!
Thanks for your video! I’m sorry about how it went with your Etsy shop! My story is kind of similar, I had a booming Etsy plant shop that I started from my backyard. After 2020 big nurseries and greenhouses started selling on Etsy, saturating the platform with large amounts of plants. Since then it’s just hard for me to compete against these big companies. I also am an artist with an art shop that has struggled as well. I believe the true artists get lost in the sea of cheap digital wall art that has taken over Etsy.
Wow. Just wow. I can’t believe they are even allowed to run their business that way… it’s so unfair to the artisan! I bought a couple of handmade items from Etsy last summer and I think that’s the only time I’ve used Etsy. I like to browse but I’ve found it’s not as nice as it used to be because it’s not restricted to handmade items anymore. Now my heart goes out to the artists / handmade sellers on there!! I watched a couple of videos a few months back by artists who said they were leaving Etsy due to changes but they didn’t go into great detail. Hopefully you’re able to find an option that will work for you.
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment! And thank you for your thoughtful kind words! They mean a lot to me! I hope I can find an option that works too!
I wholeheartedly agree. I stopped supporting Etsy when they started allowing Manufacturing Partners. Like you, I used to be a jeweler, so I already knew what it would be like to compete with competitors from places like China. No American can afford to live on Chinese wages. What’s more, our overhead if many times greater than a Chinese jeweler’s!
As for the fees, you may as well go to a gallery and pay them the 50% commission-at least they take care of marketing, advertising, sales, fulfillment, and customer service for you!
I started selling earrings on Etsy in 2020, was doing decent that year and then swiftly tanked in 2021-now. I kept my prices lower than they should’ve been and it still didn’t help. After many tears and feeling like such a failure I officially quit making earrings about a month ago. A weight has been lifted and I’m much happier. I didn’t even realize how much all the changes affected my business
Thank you very much for all the true and honest information you share, it is really helpful. I have a friend who started a shop, sold two items in the 4 days or so, and , when she saw all the taxes, she closed it immediately after sending what she sold.
I found this video & am totally shocked at what you had to say. I have bought, but never sold on Etsy. I forget who told me to not purchase the items I was looking for on Etsy, but after listening to this video, makes me not want to ever buy from Etsy again. I will forward this video to my daughter who has been talking about starting an Etsy shop. Thank you for posting this.
Thank you for the encouraging comment! I'm not sure what I'm going to do now, but I know I'm not going back to Etsy. However, I'm just one person and this was just my experience. Maybe other people are okay with what's going on there, I don't know. But thank you for taking the time to leave a comment!
Great information. I have been on Etsy since 2010 and it has changed so much. I still sell on there but what I sell does not have high overhead and it is mostly paperie and ribbons. I still feel like it is not a worth while place to sell anymore. Thanks for this great insight.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Wall Street happened. Publically traded stocks and investor profits are more important. I ran into the same thing with eBay sales after the pandemic hit the shipping went really high and the fees just kept adding up. That was a time frame that a lot of thefts were going on in the stores and I couldn't figure out at first how someone could sell products for below wholesale prices (which I couldn't compete with). So I too finally closed down my shop and got out of business. I am in the process of doing art mixed media and scrapbooking. I will probably do sales locally and word of mouth. My daughter had a handmade business and she has never recovered her sales back to pre-pandemic levels.
Thank you for sharing your experience with us, it was very helpful. ❤
I appreciate your video. I am just starting a handmade business and I have seen lots of videos of people leaving Etsy. I know some have made their own Shopify sites and some are doing wholesale on Faire. I wish more consumers knew about how Etsy is treating their shop owners because maybe they would stop shopping on the platform. I wish you the best.
Thank you so much for the encouraging and supportive comments! It means a lot to me! I looked at shopify but it was really complicated. I'm looking at square space now. It seems like it might be easier? I don't know yet. We will see!
Its amazing how many videos are like this one. All of them were against Etsy and left them..wow
Greed is what happened! I appreciate you coming on and telling the ugly truth about what has happened. Not to many people would have the courage to do what you have done and I commend you Dear lady.
It’s one thing to earn very little because of all the fees & charges,this is horrible and so very disappointing! But to actually owe money after designing and spending a full work day is mind blowing! To put it bluntly “they” robbed you!
I wish that I could do anything to make what has happened to you better.
I will pray that God provides a new revenue of financial income, what will be a blessing to prosper you and your family.
I believe in the power of prayer. Say it, claim it and believe . You have already done the hard part.
Blessings to you and your family. ❤🦋❤️🦋
Sincerely, Lisa
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment! I really appreciate it. I hope someday I can find a way to make a new income too! I do think Etsy could turn it around if they wanted. Maybe someday they will. It was a very wonderful place once. It could be again!
I totally agree with you.
Greed and robbery.
I will also be praying for your work world to change. God Bless you and keep you!
May he give you wisdom and grace and knowledge and guidance of how to move on.
@@mary.reynolds6391 Thank you so much for your kind thoughts and prayers. I appreciate it so much!
This is where I'm at with Etsy and my art. Its starting to cost me more to sell and ship on Etsy than is worth it. I made $1 on one of my prints last year. I'm about to leave completely but I don't have much of an online presence off Etsy right now.
That's exactly where I am at, too! I've been looking into square space but I don't think I have enough of a following yet to have enough traffic. Let me know if you come up with any good ideas and I will do the same for you! Here's hoping we figure something out! 💓💓💓 Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment@
What a sad story :( I used to sell on Etsy and have thought about returning but I think I'll continue working to make my own website. I wish you the best!! Thanks for sharing this!
Glad the video was helpful! And yes, it is sad. Etsy was so wonderful! It could be again but not in the direction they are going in.
I tried to open an Etsy shop as a yarn dyer around 2020, it was impossible to make it work. People were selling similar items for way below what they were worth, making it hard for me to charge a true living cost, plus as a new shop nobody found me, the only sales I made were from people I had driven to etsy myself from a youtube channel I had and from IG. Then the etsy fee's made no sense, I had fully researched them but what they were charging me didn't match with the advertised fees and the way they separate them on the reports makes it very hard to track. In the end I gave up, and if I ever set up again I will eat the cost for my own site rather than go back to Etsy, especially since you get no advertising or promoton from them as a new shop.
Etsy used to be such a wonderful place. It's too bad things had to happen like they did. It is definitely not the same place it used to be. I'm so sorry to hear your story. It seems more and more artists and craftspeople are feeling the same way. You aren't alone!
Damn, that black diamond ring story 💔 Etsy is now a publicly traded company, which means it's all about making investors happy - either by growth of the stock or the dividends they pay out. I knew this would happen, when they went public. It was the right decision to leave. That's why they accept dropshippers now. A ton of new sellers, a ton more revenue for Etsy, which they communicate publicly quarterly to investors, this attracting more investors. It's a wet Wallstreet dream.
It really was heartbreaking. to go from having a solid career to having nothing at all... Oh well. At least I decided to start a RUclips channel out of it! I'm enjoying it very much! Even if I am not at the same income level yet.
I am so annoyed! I took the time and shared some valuable information from my research as a reply to this comment, since I'm building an ecommerce business. I found some good options to get your feet off the ground without burning piles of cash. And RUclips deleted my comment! Probably because I named the providers.
I've had almost the same experience with Etsy. Did very well the first couple of years and now every sale is a struggle. I do mostly custom portraits and the competition has increased exponentially with so many people willing to work for pennies. I'm very close to closing my shop too.
Art fairs! Of course you would need your own website too - with art fairs you will have to keep at it since people like to develop a relationship with their investment. I used to sell my husbands ceramics and it took 2-3 years of returning before things became more consistent and reliable. Many artists do Patreon and get support that way as well as drive their traffic to their sites through their vlogs - again it takes patience though. You did a great job with this video. Wishing u the best ❤ west Texas - I sell my home sewn goods on Amazon handmade - I have 3 kids too so I don’t have time for social marketing myself - Amazon has to work for me for now.
Art fairs are great! Unfortunately, between my youngish kids and my Crohn's disease I'm not really able to do that right now, but hopefully some day! Thank you so much for leaving a comment!
You have 791 subscribers and I am new to you today 😀. I am appalled at what all Etsy is about and the more you talked the madder I got LOL (seriously) Something will work out for you in time. I am 74 and just starting to learn to paint watercolor. I hope to maybe sell cards/bookmarks/small prints etc to friends and craft fairs. No way could I or would I want to deal with that mess you described! Tfs
I can hardly believe I'm in the 700s! It's gone up way faster than I thought it would! And yeah, etsy is a mess right now, to the point that I'm looking for alternative ways to sell my work. It was a great space to be once, but not so much anymore. Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment! I really appreciate it!❤
I'm 75 and was going to try etsy, but no way now.
Thanks for the heartfelt video, Its so sad what these big companies do to people, I hope you find somewhere else, all the best, Michael.
Now Etsy leave you with about 20-25% of the total sold after all of the feeds and shipping. Etsy is a race to the bottom also a time waster.
I love Etsy but it's a shame what has happened to the site. I've heard similar stories from so many other sellers, who also decided to leave. Besides the fees and rules in order for your store to be seen in searches, I've seen so much copyright infringement happening. It's so disheartening to see from a site that started out so great.
Yes. I miss the old Etsy. I know that nothing stays the same, but it was a wonderful place! Thank you for taking the time to comment! I appreciate it!
Thank you for this video. I have a dormant Etsy shop and considered putting my art in there. This is eye-opening.
It's such a shame, I used to love Etsy so much. I was so sad to see it go the way it has. I was a beautiful place once!
Я знаю что видео старое и возможно вы не увидите мой комментарий. Я занималась бизнесом тоже раньше и когда на рынке появляются такие конкуренты как Китай, вам нужно было поднять цену а не опустить, поднять ее так что бы с одного украшения получать двойную прибыль. Вы бы продавали столько же сколько и продали но это была бы нормальная прибыль. Делаете акцент на том что вы и именно вы делаете ручной труд. Если вы окажетесь в такой ситуации ещё раз, просто повысите цены) мы делали так. Мы делали один выезд и поднимали свои деньги, нашим конкурентам нужно было работать в 4 раза больше что бы поднять эту сумму. )
i feel for you, Etsy is a real battle for sure, good luck
Thanks!
Hi Amy. Wow, what a terrible way to treat people. I was considering setting up an Etsy shop, but after watching your video there's no way in hell that's gonna happen. I've been selling my art now for 11 years, and art fairs are my biggest source of income. I get to connect with people and chat (which I do lots of, not gonna lie). An artist friend of mine says his biggest source as an artist is prints of his work. I wonder if an art fair would be something for you to try. Whatever you decide to try, I hope that it works out. p.s. - Subscribed!
I think I am going to try that! Thanks for the encouragement! And tha k you so very much for subscribing and watching!
Wow…so glad i listened to this great advice, I was just about to open and sale my art on Etsy…..changed my mind ! 😅
This is such a great video. Thank you for your candor and transparency. This video really helped me a great deal.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for taking the time to watch my video and leave a comment! I really appreciate it!
Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us. That was so eye opener I currently sell on Etsy it hasn’t been quite a year it’s slow moving but ok nothing spectacular . There are many e-commerce out there but which one right 🤷🏽♀️ I hope the best for you and many other artists out here who’ve had bad experiences. 🙏🏼❤️
Yep. It isn't what it used to be. Oh well. The only thing constant is change, right? Thank you for watching!
I rarely comment but felt compelled to leave a few words here for encouragement as well as maybe helping with the YT algorithm. That Etsy stuff is horrible. Really hope that your new endeavor takes off. I've subscribed, and will make sure to catch all your videos as well check out the earlier ones. Found you through your "art haul" vid - it was recommended and I do enjoy watching those. WIshing you much success
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment! I appreciate it so much. And thank you for subscribing. I have another art haul planned for this friday, in case you're interested! In this one nothing that I bought was over $15! I'm really excited about it actually! Hope you have a great day!❤
Ugh, Etsy is the worst! I also closed all of my Etsy shops. I used to sell my art, handmade jewelry, and handmade mermaid costumes, as well as pet portraits. It wasn't until I started selling costumes, that I saw the demons come out of the woodwork! Holy moly! And it just continued to get worse in all of my shops. And I learned that 90% of everything on Etsy is actually dropshipped from China. Including art. I used to be soooo stressed out when I had those Etsy shops. The vile customers and the vile competitors. All anyone has to do is buy the cheapest thing in your shop, leave a 1 star review, and put your shop out of business.
Problem is that people will buy your stuff cheap, you can get a good following if it's cheap enough, but you can't make a living at it, as you pointed out...
I am really bad at business. I can't keep up with all of Etsy's changes and fees. And I really don't understand all the ins and outs of getting 'seen'. My views are really low. But even the difference between my sales in Jan. 2022 and Jan. 2023 are disheartening. Fortunately, I don't have to depend on Etsy income to live. But you're absolutely right. Etsy has changed. Where are these outside ads that are supposedly driving people to my shop?
Yep. It's a mess! Thank you so much for taking the time to leave me a comment! I really appreciate it!
I was just discovering Etsy. It just seems so expensive. I wish there was something like Etsy but only for artist create their own work. Something like what Etsy used to be. I’d love to know if there are any alternatives.
I haven't found any yet, but I'll keep looking! Let me know if you find one, too, okay? Thanks for watching!
And Etsy’s stock has plummeted. I wonder why. They are so stupid. Etsy is not what it used to be. What a shame. Greed has ruined this world.
I’m a graphic designer and design scarves and they are printed in Canada and Italy. I have to compete with resellers who import scarves from China. Their scarves are cheaper than mine. Lately I sold three large silk scarves and calculated that my profit was 6 US dollar… 😂 due to Etsy fees and taxes. Besides that the seo of Etsy is still a nightmare for me, Etsy isn’t bringing me visitors. So I can better leave Etsy.
It definitely is a problem and not like it used to be. I had the same problem competing the cheap jewelry from China. The only solution I found was to leave, unfortunately. I hope you find a solution! Thank you for watching!
If your profit was only $6 you didn’t price them properly, that’s basic business. You can’t blame Etsy for that
@@karenl8837 Etsy takes a lot of fees. I sold a pack of stickers for around 6 dollars. I made $1.15 after all the fees.
I've been thinking about opening an Etsy store. Not anymore. Thank you. I feel like I've dodged a bullet.
I had wondered about the "handmade" thing. When multiple shops offer "hand made" items that are identical, with no variation whatsoever, it really made me wonder.
Yeah. It is SO disappointing. It used to be such a great place... now it's more like amazo.
It would be so cool,if you could take as with when you get an juwelry order, It's such a beautiful craft.
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment! I appreciate it!
I sell on Etsy but haven't reached the 10k in one year yet. I'm just selling supplies but I have noticed a lot of items that are from someplace like ali express and people who have just bought a cheap necklace from there and didn't do anything to change it and resell it. A lot of non handmade shops now and I don't think they really care as long as they are making money. :(
I've seen some people put like a watermark with their shop or logo on their photos, I wonder if that would make it so they don't use your photos as much on offsite ads. I hope I get more sales one day but I also hope I don't because I won't make any money either with offside ads. Hope I can get to $9,999. 🤪
And something else I've seen people in my category of supplies do is list an item with different colors or sizes for super cheap like under a dollar but the cheapest option is always sold out. So their products looks really cheap in the search but it's not. I saw one shop that had items on sale for literally $0.11, $0.18... They would be losing money but ALL of those priced items were sold out waitlist and I bet will never be in stock.😡
Yeah, unfortunately, Etsy isn't the way it used to be. It really is a shame, because it was a lovely place to be a few years back. I hope you find a way to sell your supplies! Thank you for watching!
@@Confetticat1 Yes that's an old Aliexpress trick. Also, sometimes that very low price is just the cheapest option of the listing which is not the one customers are coming for
Your Etsy story is disheartening. Very sorry to hear how genuine artisans are feeling the squeeze. I think as your RUclips channel grows having direct links to your website will help. Having an email subscription on your web page is nice for those who are looking for special sales, new work etc. Thanks for sharing your story. Its bloody hard for the artist these days. Hugs
Thank you so much for your encouraging words! I appreciate it very much!
@@winterwoodsstudio ❤
First class mail! That was great. With the ring tone, feels like an Angel will be the mail carrier. 😂
Lol! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
I'm not very successful on Etsy, but I see more and more Etsy sellers, no matter they use to be successful or not, become RUclipsrs.
I'm just glad I have something else I'm good at that I can try to make a living from (my art). My heart breaks for those who don't have something else they can make a go of. :( It's really sad.
Thank you.
I'll be honest, I think having your own website would be more beneficial than trying to sell other things over on Etsy. Yes, you would have to pay for it, but you won't have to compete with other people and you won't have to sell on a lost whenever Etsy decide to change their policies to make more money on the creators back while they starve.
Yes, I agree with you. I just started putting something together on Squarespace this week. I may not have a ton of traffic yet, But I think it's probably for the best. And if things don't work out, oh well. Thank you so much for taking the time to give me your input and thoughts! I really appreciate it!
@@winterwoodsstudio I'm happy to hear that! I think you will be fine. You already have people behind you on other social media platforms. It's not like you're starting from scratch. Plus, now you can use Google's tools to make ads without being penalized financially now by the platform hosting your artworks and jewelleries.
I wish you good luck!
@@yukouri Thank you! I will keep you updated on how it goes!
How did it go on Squarespace? I have learned absolutely no one will find you without paid advertising from somewhere. Thanks for this honest review of Etsy.❤
The sad price of globalization and our addiction to getting things "cheap", not to mention large corporations getting so big they just crush the small operator. Funny too how things always seem to only work in their favor. My only advice is whether you do it on etsy (I haven't used them) or elsewhere build the brand around you and focus on quality and the unique. A lot of the stuff that comes from places like China is going to be crap, often not even the real thing (say if it's stones or gold etc.). Alternately if you can't beat 'em join 'em start selling premade items from a dropshipper. Just my 2 cents, you've probably thought of these things anyway....
Yeah, it's a tough situation all around! Thank you for the advice! I am still considering what to do, and trying to figure things out so thank you!
I loved and sold on Etsy for years. Then Etsy broke my heart I will never on Etsy again they totally sold out their artists.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing this information.
Glad it was helpful!
Confused on the requirement for including shipping. I see many products on Etsy that charge for shipping. Keep the faith. Hopefully your teaching will lead to growth and a future web based business.
You can charge shipping but they charge you a 6.5% fee and give listings with shipping a lower rank in their seo engine, which means you appear lower in search. So where your listing might have been on page one, it might now be on page 11, which happened to me. Thank you for your kind words!❤
I'm confused too. Because there seem to be an awful lot of items in my category that charge shipping yet show up in search long before my item. I really can't figure it out.
There are other factors that go into an item's search ranking. Hundreds of them. Like if you are a star seller, how many negative reviews your shop has, the click through rate of the item, how clear the photos are, the length of time a store has been open, etc. It's not just the shipping. Hope that helps!
The fees. That's why I'm working on getting away from it even after just starting it last year.
It has changed SO much since I started there in 2016! It's crazy!
Thanks for all the information
You bet!
I sell digital art and just this year my sales have dropped so low my shop is basically dead. Digital sellers are being out priced by AI art and people from other countries where their cost of living is 8x lower than USA so they’re happy to make .50 profit a sell. Same with Creative Fabrica. I don’t even bother putting art on there anymore. Why bother? I went a got a part time job this week so I can make ends meet while I switch my business to physical art prints because they can’t compete with USA shipping costs. Sucks.
So many good people have quit Etsy. We feel your pain.
Yup. It was rough. I don't know what happened there. It lost it's heart, and that's what made it good in the first place! Thank you for watching!
My graph looks like yours, just a few years back, it was a nice completion to the home income. The ROI was getting smaller and smaller with the years, starting 2015. I am an international seller, and was down in exposure at some point, it is another reason i couldnt use many other sites as an option, some dont do business with other countries. Their search logarithm is heavily manipulated to their needs. Sad, but thats reality of modern businesses. Take care ❤️
Yes, it is sad, isn't it? I'm sorry for your troubles and I hope you find a new way to sell! If you find one, let me know, and I will do the same for you! Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment! I appreciate it!
Funny you mention 2015....something happened to etsy in oct.of 2015 ...they changed something ....I was doing crazy sales right up to oct 2015 and then it bottomed out suddenly ..like I as invisible all of a sudden......they changed how search worked..... I can pinpoint it to that exact date it went south.....
It’s not your fault that the shipping company lost their package. What kills me is usps holds no responsibility if they don’t do their job properly. An Etsy seller’s responsibility should stop at putting it in the mailbox. If the customer wants their money back if their package gets lost then they should upgrade to priority shipping. Etsy is not Amazon and these are handmade items. Being punished for a mistake that USPS made is not fair!
There are some artist cooperatives online. Perhaps you could research that.
I was horrified to hear your story! Producers in third world countries are increasingly being granted fair-trade deals to ensure they receive a fair price for their goods, and yet greedy corporations such as Etsy are now taking advantage of skilled artists without fair recompense. It is disgusting, and I for one will be boycotting Etsy from now on. I purchased from them thinking I was supporting independent artisans like yourself, but now I feel completely duped. Thank goodness you made the break. You deserve so much better, and I wish you and your future ventures all the very best. 💕💕
It was infuriating and also pretty sad, especially when I compare it to how it was when I first started there. It was a beautiful idea back then. Thank you for taking the time to watch my video! I appreciate it!
15% in tax!!! Count yourselflucky. In Sweden it is around 60% for self employed.... and the add Etsy onnthat.. Thanks for the warning!
I am sorry you are not the only one, Etsy is a corporation,is in the stock market the have to report to the stock holders, at cost of handcrafters like us. If don't work for us better our own website, or handcrafters shows.
Yeah I came to that same conclusion. That's why I started here on youtube to build a base for myself and I just opened my own shop yesterday! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.
I sell vintage items on Etsy for about 3 years now. Used to be only for vintage and handmade items but now a bunch of mass produced junk and digital downloads are what I see. My sales are very slow and I was contacted by an Etsy Rep who offered me my own website, when I gladly accepted, I never heard back from her. I'm not sure what's going on with Etsy but it sounds like they have completely forgotten who helped get their platform off the ground and have become very greedy. So sorry to hear about your hard work for nothing, that is so disappointing and unacceptable.
Hi, you seem a very kind person. God bless you, please tell me, do you have any advice for me as i wanna start my shop of a hair mask on etsy? Your words will be my guidance. Thank you
You never replied :)
@@grannyssecretwhat is a hair mask? Sorry she didn’t reply- seems to happen a lot. People get busy!
@@sallycampbell7709 its kinda natural hair pack
I was not very successful on Etsy.
I'm so sorry to hear that! It's definitely not an easy platform. I hope you find luck somewhere else!
good evening where might be best to sell simon from the uk thankyou
I don't know. Honestly, I think your best bet is to try to build up enough of a following on social media, and then set up your own shop, which is what I am in the process of doing. I don't think that with the way Etsy is structed now, that it will be sustainable for small artists and craftsmen in the future. I hope that helps!
Etsy has become such a dumpster. Its also over saturated with third party sellers. I'm constantly having to cross reference if I make a purchase there to make sure the shop I'm in isn't selling stuff that doesn't belong to them. Its like wading through a sea of amazon crap. I'm unsatisfied as both an artist trying to sell and a supporter trying to buy.
yeah, I forgot to mention that in the video. It's not even just manufacturing partners, people are just outright buying crap from cheap wholesalers and then selling it on Etsy. And near the end I had someone copy a lot of my photos and then make a etsy site and try to sell stuff from my photos. It's gotten really out of hand...
So what's the alternative?
There isn't one yet, other than building a social media platform and driving traffic to your own website. Maybe someday there will be!
@@winterwoodsstudio Shopify?
AI art has now taken over as well - So someone who creates digital portraits by hand now has competition with people who are creating them via AI and charging dollar store pricing for that same item. It's sad.
Start your own "Etsy"
Please make them videos maybe it would help me with my shop seo
I hope to make them soon! Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment!
Their greed knows no bounds. People have started selling Chinese crap bc they can’t make money if they don’t. Absurd business practices by Etsy.
I was thinking about running a business on Etsy but now I wont. I had heard that their fees are gone up through other artists on RUclips but I didn't know it was as bad as it is so thank you for alerting me because now I know. I hope you can find a place to sell your prince I would like to do the same but I'm not going to at sea Etsy sorry I'm using a microphone. I really want to thank you because I was seriously thinking of it. If you do find a place to sell your prints and aren't please let us know because I would really be interested. Thank you and take care!
It's true the fees a pretty steep now compared to what they used to be. It's still probably the best place to get found in search, so if you could find a way to do it and still make some profit, it might help build up your client base. But it wasn't a great option for me, at least as a jeweler. Hope you find a way to sell you art! Thank you for leaving a comment!
That's straight up robbery💀
So many of my favorite artists made their own websites,because etsy is packing it's bags full of money,it gets from others!! If you want to start selling more or new things,please switch to another site and promote it on your socials!!
Thank you so much for advice!❤ I do hope to have my own site someday. I'm not sure I have enough followers yet though to make it profitable.
@@winterwoodsstudio I found your channel through your art supply video,pretty sure others did too☺ (artist vlogs,day in a life of an artist,art supply hauls,sketchbook/journaling ) these are very popular topics in the art community,maybe you can find more creative minds with these kind of videos😊(only if you're interested in these kind of videos of course)
@@alinatr2693 Thank you so much! Those are all great ideas! I do have some of those planned and will definitely start planning the others!
Gosh! That's bad for artists when you can't make a profit on Etsy. Maybe it's time for you to set up your own website and showcase your work there?
I think it might be but for some reason it seems really intimidating to me! Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment!❤
This shouldn’t be legal!
Estey jumped on the greedy bandwagon. Im so sorry.
It's a shame because it used to be such a beautiful place!
I can’t believe you spent 4 hours on a product that only sold for $50. You were only making $12.50 an hour if everything else was free. This was a money loosing proposition before any Etsy fees at all.
Thinking $12.50 an hour is a loosing proposition depends on your viewpoint. $12 an hour working from home, and not having to pay daycare for my babies worked out great. It was almost double minimum wage in my state.
A shame about Etsy. It served its purpose though. I think you can now sell on Instagram? I’ve also seen ads recently about online art booths? I haven’t looked into any of these options as yet (-: Marion
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment. You can sell on Instagram now, although I haven't tried it yet, or even looked into it. I've never heard about online art booths! I will have to see if I can find more information on that! Thanks!
incredible... how that page still can be alive, people really are able to hold A LOT.
I think there are a lot of resellers and drop shippers on there now...
I rarely went to Etsy and now I will never go there. They are being thieves without a gun. It's greed begets greed.
The Chinese government subsidizes the shipping costs, I think they stopped doing that recently.
It's too terrible work . I am sorry to your business stories. Hope u might be find other nice chance on line business again
I hope so too! And thank you for leaving I comment!
Have you tried Amazon? A lot of people have a Etsy and Amazon account
Yikes!!!! What about facebook lives Amy!!!
I'm not a huge fan of facebook... but thanks for the idea!
how about muting your phone? It was kinda ridiculous to watch and you laughing about it like you cant do anything about it.
I can't mute it. I film at when my kids are at school and one of my kids is a special medical needs child. I need to be available for the school to reach at any moment. So no, I can't do anything about it. Maybe before you leave a judgy comment you should practice some compassion. Be the change you want to see.