btw, it does make sense to pop reveal mid-end match because it only withers your health BAR not your actual HP, so it's a free buff if your opponent doesn't punish you for it.
i definitely agree, at 1400 elo right now ive dropped at least 60 elo by using reveal, i would usually 5 bar the opponent but reveal literally does 4/5th of my hp and i get hit twice and im done, i think the oath is amazing concept but it needs some serious revision before it gets meta, would not work in top chime at all
If you're in ganks people tend to be careless, always use reveal if you're below 40%, it withers your health instead of draining it (i.e flame within) and if you're any good you'll be able to pop it, quickly get damage in and deactivate it later. ...Overall the oath feels terrible still LOL, the amount of micromanagement you need to make it viable is unbelievable and gets you thinking more about the oath and how you'll proc its talents than your own mantras, expect heavy reworks or tweaks to it.
Although it’s hard to use it doesn’t mean it’s bad, people say gale is op but you can’t really just press random numbers and spam you kinda gotta think about combos and manage spectro bar
@@lexierdiaz6653no its just bad If you dont have power reveal it’s moves do little damage and are easy to parry. Its like a strong left if it was slowed down and had less posture, and then an exhaustion strike if it didnt dump all your posture even then in the reveal mode, the slashes do bad damage and low posture. the only thing theyre good for is when you need to roll catch to start a combo or have uppercut mantras besides the ones given Edit:float like a butterfly is actually really good kinda like old static flash clones, except you can only use it once every blue moon Atleast with something like gale, you get huge reward for being able to manage it correctly. With this oath all you get is a roll catch and good uppercuts
played against this in chime a few times by now and honestly for all those flashy moves, they all do basically no posture and you can just hold f with no downside but if you can manage a good uppercut combo the payoff is huge
idea for reveal: get 1 ironsing, when you are about 1-2 bars pop the iron tower mantra thing, then use reveal. it gives wither, does not do actual dmg. so you can have a huge boost for around 90 seconds for free.
I mean ig it's based off shikais and bankais because ur fighting urself and then u get like a mode type stuff so maybe like make reveal give u a longer flash step and drain and wither ether instead because it's more weapon based
@@ineedacarry8155remove reveal and make true strength base mechanic/make it way easier to proc and make it so that it lasts longer, give float like a butterfly a cooldown, give more posture damage to the slashes. boom oath good
reveal is definitely a big trade off, but sometimes it can be good to pop for the extra combo damage if ur able to Land them, u can end fights rlly quick with the right build.
for those who thinks they know everything about this oath already, know that you can't always figure out all of the tech in the first 3 days of release. not saying that one small tech discovery will make this oath extremely strong, just know that it'll take a bit to figure out, especially with patches that are likely changing bladeharper in the coming weeks
It might be good to use this one a weapon like trident spear as its multi hit will proc true strength which could be pretty reliable. Palm strike into crit could probably proc it easily because of the stun and most people probably wont be able to react in time but idk though.
they should rework the oath for the passives from reveal to always be active and using reveal instead is just a damage increase like 5% more dmg or smth (true strength should either be removed or turned into 5% more dmg on flourish instead of 5 hits)
Tone down reveals wither & a similar thing to arcsuits ending s. Give the slashes a bit of cd (more than dash), for that 1 talent make it 3 hits for heavy, 5 for medium n 7 for light while fixin that curved bug. Dunno what to do for mantras. (Rlly rlly neat oath tho)
They should wither ether instead since its more weapon based and maybe reveal s as well as like ig im thinking random buffs u can choose at the statue maybe like different modes for different skillsets
how would you compare this to the other no req oaths? like chainwarden, dawnwalker, contractor, ect. (yes it has a 25 str/agil req + weapon but thats nothing if you arent a legendary)
@@victor-yt3rc I think everyone agrees the air dashes are annoying and I use them and they are incredibly easy to land, however they aren’t always active wich somewhat balances it but I think they should make true power proc easier or buff the mantras and nerf the air dash
Strong leap carries for a free reveal proc also I think they need to choose either either on lost hp or the hp drain (ngl double the ho drain but remove the wither would be so goated
also who would be using a curved build with bladeharper does it not need like 75 med and like 100 hvy or light at that point use trident spear it does the same
a use that could be good for reveal mid match is (idk if it works or not but) if you can use it mid judgement like you would with heretics sutra it could be very good as it also only withers so it wouldnt do damage until it gets down to however low you are. js something to test ig
Chainwarden and this new path both feel really underwhelming, and look like something you’d see in a fakewoken game or something. They just lack the big impact that an oath should have yk.
@@grand3640 90% of the obtainment methods are about the same as these gang. Oathless you talk to people blindseer you interact with a writing starkindred you kill someone and kill an npc visionshaper you do a quest and turn in void feathers Jetstriker you do a small 1 minute race Fadetrimmer.... I don't see any issue with either obtainment method. Infact i think the bladeharper obtainment is really cool and puts previously unused things to use.
Nah I argue to disagree it’s one of the best if not the best oath it’s carried me from 700 elo to 1300 in like 1 day it’s super good against clueless opponents and if you can use it godo
Wither "rework" idea: make it lower the max hp u can heal to, so u dont lose hp but if u drop below wither hp its like the wither effect atm. (So u lose hp if u drop below wither hp)
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btw, it does make sense to pop reveal mid-end match because it only withers your health BAR not your actual HP, so it's a free buff if your opponent doesn't punish you for it.
this is true, good point. only issue is that the long anim for reveal is pretty dangerous so you gotta be careful
Will probably end up in you getting punished for popping it
@@css8714I’m sure you could rampart reveal
but u cant heal back the amount of hp u loss and if it withers too much u dont know how much hp u are having
@@BaoNguyen-ok6ekwell you can just turn it off and unless you’re using a build that head a lot wither dosent make much of a difference
i definitely agree, at 1400 elo right now ive dropped at least 60 elo by using reveal, i would usually 5 bar the opponent but reveal literally does 4/5th of my hp and i get hit twice and im done, i think the oath is amazing concept but it needs some serious revision before it gets meta, would not work in top chime at all
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No bop @@ardreal279
You’re not supposed to spam reveal you’re supposed to be dealing dmg without getting hit to get the mode
@@RaghSpark 5 hits without taking ANY damage to get the mode btw for 3 seconds
Yeah… chime matches tend to get dragged out more and more the further up you go, so Reveal’s wither really hurts the higher up the ladder you go
If you're in ganks people tend to be careless, always use reveal if you're below 40%, it withers your health instead of draining it (i.e flame within) and if you're any good you'll be able to pop it, quickly get damage in and deactivate it later.
...Overall the oath feels terrible still LOL, the amount of micromanagement you need to make it viable is unbelievable and gets you thinking more about the oath and how you'll proc its talents than your own mantras, expect heavy reworks or tweaks to it.
Although it’s hard to use it doesn’t mean it’s bad, people say gale is op but you can’t really just press random numbers and spam you kinda gotta think about combos and manage spectro bar
@@lexierdiaz6653no its just bad
If you dont have power reveal it’s moves do little damage and are easy to parry. Its like a strong left if it was slowed down and had less posture, and then an exhaustion strike if it didnt dump all your posture
even then in the reveal mode, the slashes do bad damage and low posture. the only thing theyre good for is when you need to roll catch to start a combo or have uppercut mantras besides the ones given Edit:float like a butterfly is actually really good kinda like old static flash clones, except you can only use it once every blue moon
Atleast with something like gale, you get huge reward for being able to manage it correctly. With this oath all you get is a roll catch and good uppercuts
So what you’re saying is it’s bad but only because deep players are too stupid to understand it?
@@amazingmrpig6369 ?? no its bad because its objectively worse than other oaths did u not read what i said
played against this in chime a few times by now and honestly for all those flashy moves, they all do basically no posture and you can just hold f with no downside but if you can manage a good uppercut combo the payoff is huge
devs should make wether go above health, not replacing it, but just preventing from healing the "weathered" part
wither
fr make it so it doesn't drain hp js make it so you cant heal any hp until you knock someone or use a campfire
yea thats definitely a better idea
It could look like stained hp bar
Thats literally what happens
The DECO-27 Vampire lofi music in the background is the cherry on top. W vid as per usual.
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idea for reveal: get 1 ironsing, when you are about 1-2 bars pop the iron tower mantra thing, then use reveal. it gives wither, does not do actual dmg. so you can have a huge boost for around 90 seconds for free.
ngl they should just remove reveal and make true strength base mechanic
I mean ig it's based off shikais and bankais because ur fighting urself and then u get like a mode type stuff so maybe like make reveal give u a longer flash step and drain and wither ether instead because it's more weapon based
That would make it way too op because of the air dash cancel move
@@lexierdiaz6653 Just add a cd LOL
@@ineedacarry8155remove reveal and make true strength base mechanic/make it way easier to proc and make it so that it lasts longer, give float like a butterfly a cooldown, give more posture damage to the slashes.
boom oath good
reveal having a 4 second windup is diabolical
reveal is definitely a big trade off, but sometimes it can be good to pop for the extra combo damage if ur able to
Land them, u can end fights rlly quick with the right build.
for those who thinks they know everything about this oath already, know that you can't always figure out all of the tech in the first 3 days of release. not saying that one small tech discovery will make this oath extremely strong, just know that it'll take a bit to figure out, especially with patches that are likely changing bladeharper in the coming weeks
Bladeharper inperial staff goes crazy with the run crit. Definitely reccomend.
Best synergy with it is pale brair, u can hide in crit to pop reveal, and the crit is good for gaining mode
0:29 you can use beast burrow an pop reveal and you can parry while popping it
It might be good to use this one a weapon like trident spear as its multi hit will proc true strength which could be pretty reliable. Palm strike into crit could probably proc it easily because of the stun and most people probably wont be able to react in time but idk though.
Spiders can you make a slide casting guide please?
Honestly you could use poser ring to deal with the wind up
they should rework the oath for the passives from reveal to always be active and using reveal instead is just a damage increase like 5% more dmg or smth (true strength should either be removed or turned into 5% more dmg on flourish instead of 5 hits)
If they make reveal have a way shorter animation it’d make the oath way better as it would actually be usable mid fight
Tone down reveals wither & a similar thing to arcsuits ending s. Give the slashes a bit of cd (more than dash), for that 1 talent make it 3 hits for heavy, 5 for medium n 7 for light while fixin that curved bug. Dunno what to do for mantras. (Rlly rlly neat oath tho)
I think its a balanced oath, w spiders vid
bro you could legit just use reveal when you get around half and it’s basically free… also you could hide the anim in beast burrow just like heretic
They added sukuna and think we wouldn't notice
packed up
They should make it where you get three strength for like 20s or 10s after landing one of the mantras kinda like with dawn Walker
Chip damage is usefull to proc untouchable
Oath is overall really good and cool imo it lacks damage, it’s pretty balanced it just does literally no damage
Does already dead proc for reveal? If so, it might be viable
They should wither ether instead since its more weapon based and maybe reveal s as well as like ig im thinking random buffs u can choose at the statue maybe like different modes for different skillsets
That would just make this a better silentheart
@@lexierdiaz6653 2 different oaths
@@Undersinful ur an idiot
@@lexierdiaz6653terrible take, L deep fan as usual
an oath that lets you wield two of any weapon at a time would've been cooler than this tbh
hey SpidersDW what medium weapon do u think would have the best synergy
If the soulthorn crit procs it then it would have pretty good synergy
how would you compare this to the other no req oaths? like chainwarden, dawnwalker, contractor, ect. (yes it has a 25 str/agil req + weapon but thats nothing if you arent a legendary)
I’d say it’s extremely mid compared to those the air dash might deserve smth like a 3 sec cooldown tho
Just solely due to how insane rupture is on DMG and comboing chain warden just outclasses this oath all together.
@@lexierdiaz6653 so u want it to get nerfed
@@victor-yt3rc I think everyone agrees the air dashes are annoying and I use them and they are incredibly easy to land, however they aren’t always active wich somewhat balances it but I think they should make true power proc easier or buff the mantras and nerf the air dash
Not a no req oath
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Trident spear should be quite strong in proccing true strengths after a GB
Sukuna reference hehe
What's all your backgrond music? I can recognize Vampire, but that's it
one was aishite by kikuo
Reveal is actually very good if you're playing your cards right
you should add 5-10 seconds of outro at the end
Reveal have no down side in laggy server...
the vampire is a fire song
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Does spine cutter count to procing true strength
Strong leap carries for a free reveal proc also I think they need to choose either either on lost hp or the hp drain (ngl double the ho drain but remove the wither would be so goated
The amount of oaths popping up
why the hell do i hear piano version of "Deco 27 - The Vampire" in the background
cant you cancel reveal?
also who would be using a curved build with bladeharper does it not need like 75 med and like 100 hvy or light at that point use trident spear it does the same
Yeah I will not be coming back to Deepwoken for this oath anymore
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how to use and counter? do you happen to know a game called abd
What’s the code for your hairstyle
the aishite cover 🤑
Unckuna build boutta go so hard frfr
Common spider w
how do you dash cancel
Bro plays mabinogi, and no palm strike and decimate are hella good
How do I cancel my air dash?
We need chime videos!!!
a use that could be good for reveal mid match is (idk if it works or not but) if you can use it mid judgement like you would with heretics sutra it could be very good as it also only withers so it wouldnt do damage until it gets down to however low you are. js something to test ig
they should make it so the dark casque helmet reduces your dmg from Reveal
Chainwarden and this new path both feel really underwhelming, and look like something you’d see in a fakewoken game or something. They just lack the big impact that an oath should have yk.
The obtainment methods for both Oaths are super lazy too
@@grand3640 90% of the obtainment methods are about the same as these gang.
Oathless you talk to people
blindseer you interact with a writing
starkindred you kill someone and kill an npc
visionshaper you do a quest and turn in void feathers
Jetstriker you do a small 1 minute race
Fadetrimmer....
I don't see any issue with either obtainment method. Infact i think the bladeharper obtainment is really cool and puts previously unused things to use.
@@grand3640Disagreed, but keep crying bro
I think balance wise it’s fine it just doesn’t look like deepwoken to me
king by kanaria as well does bro play pjsk
Slide that hair id spiders pwease🥺
its so bad does more damage on yourself than the mantra does on the enemy
Nah I argue to disagree it’s one of the best if not the best oath it’s carried me from 700 elo to 1300 in like 1 day it’s super good against clueless opponents and if you can use it godo
To be fair, this is one of the easiest oaths to get considering all you have to do is do the kj quest, get 90 weapon and then look at 3 statues
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does the 2nd soulthorn crit count as m1s?
no
Best oath in the game At this point in time
Wither "rework" idea: make it lower the max hp u can heal to, so u dont lose hp but if u drop below wither hp its like the wither effect atm. (So u lose hp if u drop below wither hp)
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sukuna oath
plzzz. no...
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