Thanks, I recently just got into fist//back into deepwoken in general. Been REALLY enjoying this Jetstriker/Spectral Gale Fist build I made. Not finished since I’m only Power 12, but ahh! It’s so much fun. May have to redo it so I can shrine of order next time.
@@placeowner bro has been making content meant for helping others since long ago, what you on about? this is not glazing this is the bare minimum he deserves, I hope yall have a great day and thanks spider for bringing quality educational content once again
I have a really cheesy Sovs Punishment build that I love to use, 3* Weight, Stone, Heavy Hands Ring, with the Gale Talent that causes a fling on PB, basically makes PB -> Gale Punch -> Rising Wind confirmed
As a 2H gun main, I'd have to disagree, first off repeater (revolver) has 1.5 more range and higher scaling, making high stats with scaling rings make it even stronger, also another type of gun playstyle is close and aggressive, using roll cancelling as movement and abusing the weird anims and 3 m1 flourish, both are good but cheesing is easier
repeater might be better on some builds but at lower investments the alloyed dawnshot does more damage, which is normally what you want to be doing so I wouldn’t say the repeater is better, tho the range is nice. as for playing dual guns aggressively tho I really don’t think it’s super optimal at least if you’re trying to beat top players, biggest reason is that dual guns have a big downside of slowing you down when firing which makes it really hard to track and stick with your opponent
@@SpidersDW which is why usually you'd opt for 65 agility and engage mantras to constantly stay close, your movement cant be as it is with a sword, you need to almost spam roll cancels while m1ing to keep close
as someone who knows scaling, I'd have to disagree on the "higher scaling" thing because damage also scales on base damage and not just the scaling number
I recently got the golden swordfish and I would say it’s better than the layer 2 rapier because of the trident spear crit which can catch many people off guard and does more damage than the normal rapier crit
Clubs arent as weak as ppl say they are, though no one uses that at all. I believe they've reverted the crit back to the guard break and the perch got mad op stats (bleed and chips with 30pen) And if you ever use the one you got to be mad aggressive with it.
Greataxes have a talent where if you guard break it will extend the knockdown allowing you to get a free m1 in or a mantra (also with heavy you can abuse uppercut + s to bait out theyre vent)
I think intense feinting playstyle really benefit heavy weapons, specially when paired with low windup mantras (galebreathe, exhaustion strike, etc) letting you either hit a block or hitting a mantra that starts combos
I wish you would have talked some about single guns, since the reload requirement changes the playstyle so heavily. If I recall single gun is pretty bad because of the reload, but I would still like to play with them Also, a movement guide would be helpful! I find fists to be really difficult to use because their range is just so tiny and I don't know how to get in close enough to hit people
It’s definitely good if you know what you’re doing, and I find it much more fun to play than 2H. You can switch between a rushdown and zoning playstyle with ease, allowing for solid mixups, and hella damage. The main drawback being the need to reload isn’t that hard to deal with, you can zone out your enemies with mantras while reloading if you can keep them away from you, and if they do get close, you can simply feint your reload to engage again.
For rapiers, you should use enchants that benefit from multi-hits, such as Detonation, Grim, and Yunshul, since they almost always guarantee a proc with a crit.
What benefit does alloyed inheritor have ? Last i check it's damage is pretty mid (straight in the middle between pale briar and enforcer axe) and the special property of it (way of navae crit and aerial) doesn't seems significant
by the way, skull piercer is almost always better than the kyrs rapier since every hit of the crit also applies bleed damage, does about a bar most of the time its wild
I’ve been playing deep for a while but the thing that was really holding me back was lack of mastery over weapons and the weapon classes other than the basic swing speed/range, this in depth guide was really what I needed to improve, thank you spiders!
id love to see a video on your personal opinion on best enchants for each weapon class because ive started using spears and i dont really know which enchants to use
maybe soon, but I’ll probably talk about what I think the best wep enchants for spear are in the next video since I’m doing a showcase on the build I used during this vid
Rn I’m using the blunderbuss and I really like it for some reason it does more damage than my trident spear and has good swing speed and range I might main it since I can’t use shattered katana or rifle spear
I am not going to be seduced by the halberd, I am not going to suck down any leg weapon I see just to make my weapon class viable, I am not using pale briar for its gimmick-ass crit, I am going to use master hawk’s handaxe. Now give me some real tips other than “just follow the meta lol”. (Fr tho, thx for making this video. It was exactly what I was lookin for.)
So pale briar is a great hammer not a greataxe and even so afyer they gave its crit ap frames its kinda ass now sadly i would suggest trying out enforcers axe tho because for example enchants like elactic/chilling can confirm some easy dmg... Elastic on enforcers axe used to be trash but for some reason i fight more and more players that just weak out when hit with it not the exact reaction i expected from 1.4k elo players but for some reason enforcer weapons crits ussually just dont get parried... Truly confusing
Low key this dude chill as hell
say that again…
bruiser talents are underated that the strenght of greataxes
Thanks, I recently just got into fist//back into deepwoken in general. Been REALLY enjoying this Jetstriker/Spectral Gale Fist build I made. Not finished since I’m only Power 12, but ahh! It’s so much fun. May have to redo it so I can shrine of order next time.
You should use the new Gale fist legendary!
its literally impossible for you to make a video thats not educational and helps the community bruh
The glaze is actually wild
@@placeownerbruh how
@@placeowner bro has been making content meant for helping others since long ago, what you on about? this is not glazing this is the bare minimum he deserves, I hope yall have a great day and thanks spider for bringing quality educational content once again
@@placeownerover used term ngl
@@placeownerSo what
I have a really cheesy Sovs Punishment build that I love to use, 3* Weight, Stone, Heavy Hands Ring, with the Gale Talent that causes a fling on PB, basically makes PB -> Gale Punch -> Rising Wind confirmed
Pale briar got gutted in the last update you cant cast mantras while the crit is out
Do they not want you to use it?
@@BasicToptier no it was just kinda op, you could use like ice eruption or storm cage/gravity bell then just pop the crit and it had no ap frames
@@BasicToptier why would that ever be balanced its infinite pressure
As a 2H gun main, I'd have to disagree, first off repeater (revolver) has 1.5 more range and higher scaling, making high stats with scaling rings make it even stronger, also another type of gun playstyle is close and aggressive, using roll cancelling as movement and abusing the weird anims and 3 m1 flourish, both are good but cheesing is easier
repeater might be better on some builds but at lower investments the alloyed dawnshot does more damage, which is normally what you want to be doing so I wouldn’t say the repeater is better, tho the range is nice. as for playing dual guns aggressively tho I really don’t think it’s super optimal at least if you’re trying to beat top players, biggest reason is that dual guns have a big downside of slowing you down when firing which makes it really hard to track and stick with your opponent
@@SpidersDW which is why usually you'd opt for 65 agility and engage mantras to constantly stay close, your movement cant be as it is with a sword, you need to almost spam roll cancels while m1ing to keep close
as someone who knows scaling, I'd have to disagree on the "higher scaling" thing because damage also scales on base damage and not just the scaling number
medium:give up
heavy:give up
light: spam m1
beat me to it
fuck light weps 😭 unreadable m1s, more dps than other classes and permastun
@@mykolas8575 its fair tho cuz the range and dmg is low
@@Doduszkaa range doesnt matter when permastun affects speed as well, same goes for dmg when permastun affects parrying
@@mykolas8575 that's the joke...
I recently got the golden swordfish and I would say it’s better than the layer 2 rapier because of the trident spear crit which can catch many people off guard and does more damage than the normal rapier crit
Bro when is the community gonna realize this ytuber is just better cmon now
Clubs arent as weak as ppl say they are, though no one uses that at all. I believe they've reverted the crit back to the guard break and the perch got mad op stats (bleed and chips with 30pen)
And if you ever use the one you got to be mad aggressive with it.
Greataxes have a talent where if you guard break it will extend the knockdown allowing you to get a free m1 in or a mantra (also with heavy you can abuse uppercut + s to bait out theyre vent)
I think intense feinting playstyle really benefit heavy weapons, specially when paired with low windup mantras (galebreathe, exhaustion strike, etc) letting you either hit a block or hitting a mantra that starts combos
ice lance feint into m1 into ice lance into darksteel gs crit 🤤
for heavy, just use ur crits as often as you would mace, as the guardbreak can lead into uppercuts or combos
I wish you would have talked some about single guns, since the reload requirement changes the playstyle so heavily. If I recall single gun is pretty bad because of the reload, but I would still like to play with them
Also, a movement guide would be helpful! I find fists to be really difficult to use because their range is just so tiny and I don't know how to get in close enough to hit people
It’s definitely good if you know what you’re doing, and I find it much more fun to play than 2H. You can switch between a rushdown and zoning playstyle with ease, allowing for solid mixups, and hella damage. The main drawback being the need to reload isn’t that hard to deal with, you can zone out your enemies with mantras while reloading if you can keep them away from you, and if they do get close, you can simply feint your reload to engage again.
For rapiers, you should use enchants that benefit from multi-hits, such as Detonation, Grim, and Yunshul, since they almost always guarantee a proc with a crit.
Some really good greatswords are: Darkalloy Greatsword, Enforcers blade for the high damage crit, and lastly the Alloyed Inheritor.
What benefit does alloyed inheritor have ? Last i check it's damage is pretty mid (straight in the middle between pale briar and enforcer axe) and the special property of it (way of navae crit and aerial) doesn't seems significant
@@nublord5648 Its the alloyed inheritor :shrug:
@@tyronesclone4029 wha
by the way, skull piercer is almost always better than the kyrs rapier since every hit of the crit also applies bleed damage, does about a bar most of the time its wild
I might just be the exception at this point if im using 1H gun playing aggressive af with no way of cheesing
happy chaos mindset
spiders is the only deeptuber that doesnt spam 8 min vids for the bag fr!
I’ve been playing deep for a while but the thing that was really holding me back was lack of mastery over weapons and the weapon classes other than the basic swing speed/range, this in depth guide was really what I needed to improve, thank you spiders!
happy to hear it man, glad it was helpful :D
I think legion needs some buffs way of navae outshines legion and it upsets me because legion is significantly cooler
Pale morning could also be a good heavy weapon to use with detonation
dagger and fist tutorial: never let go of W
Y’all noticed the Oshi No Ko opening music in the video?
Very good video bro🎉. Congratulations!!😀😀
"If you run guns its pretty cheese"
*The invention of guns irl:*
4 days later and clubs are back to being mainstream due to new lw
Thank you spiders!!! Personally I love medium spear/sword and this guide is very informative!!!
glad it was helpful charles !! 😁
As a club main pernach dose a shit ton of dmg and needs a nerf
I used to main clubs but when you find just one person who knows how to parry the crit the ggs
id love to see a video on your personal opinion on best enchants for each weapon class because ive started using spears and i dont really know which enchants to use
maybe soon, but I’ll probably talk about what I think the best wep enchants for spear are in the next video since I’m doing a showcase on the build I used during this vid
@@SpidersDW yeah alr thanks that would be very helpful
Rn I’m using the blunderbuss and I really like it for some reason it does more damage than my trident spear and has good swing speed and range I might main it since I can’t use shattered katana or rifle spear
when you started swords I recognised shinzo wa sasagayo
bro makes the game look fun
This video is how I find out hold m1 is a thing wow
I am not going to be seduced by the halberd, I am not going to suck down any leg weapon I see just to make my weapon class viable, I am not using pale briar for its gimmick-ass crit, I am going to use master hawk’s handaxe. Now give me some real tips other than “just follow the meta lol”. (Fr tho, thx for making this video. It was exactly what I was lookin for.)
2:40 what do you mean by "working around the ship" ??
chip
1 shot zana shattered katana crit is crazy don’t you you think, that’s over 500+ dmg
I disliked this video was to misleading (it was 6:30 not 6 minutes 😡😡😡😡😤)
You should make a video like this for the legendary weapons
Bro why the actual fuck is nobody noticing he had masters flourish on his gale fist build 😭
did vro js use master flourish with fist?
Ngl no enforcers axe is wild
Spiders, what do you use to record and edit your videos if you mind me asking?
I use premiere pro
another banger from my goat..
love this video, what is your opinion about wyrmtooth and what is the name of the pvz soundtrack?
why was bro fighting a peashooter
Random question: Have you played a roblox game called hexaria before?
maybe, but if I did it would’ve been a long time ago
i wanna like heavy weapons but i just get cucked by light weapons 💔
bro really didnt mention railblade 🔛🔝
after the nerfs the other greatswords mentioned are better imo, but railblade is still solid
spiders do you know how to make medal on mac add sound to clips? all my clips have no sound
i got a new setup and dont have access to a mac anymore so i cant help you, sorry
Man forgot the kick style
similar to fist but 1 more range and has a bit of endlag
is gale and fist a good build if so what should I do with it
Why use 1 when you can use all of them in one scuffed build
THANK YOU SPIDER ITS ME SebTheWeb.
hello SebTheWeb !
@@SpidersDW Hello sir
I see, as another random mf named seb I do agree
when the gale spear build 😭
I’m planning to post a showcase today or tomorrow
@@SpidersDW ily
Kinda sad that you forgot jus kira
Whats the crypt build youre using?
You forgot the kicking style or did i miss it?
first time ive ever heard rapier pronounced like that
ngl man idk how else you've heard ppl say it, I even looked up a pronunciation guide and everything 😭
bimblawg said just use a macro
absolutely absurd in my opinion
Is imperial staff still playable or like worth MAINING?
what about your opinion of railblade?
This might be maestro evengarde rest
What if I don't wanna cheese with guns 🥺
Play 1H guns. Hella fun.
What if u use rifle spear 😅
Bro forgot about greatswords 😭
5:20
@@SpidersDWsilly me 🤦♂️
what about jus karita?
similar to fist but with worse endlag, better range, better swing speed
@@SpidersDW LOVE U
what about wyrmstooth?
plays pretty similar to heavy weps, pretty strong weapon
imperial not mentioned fire
is 1 handed gun any good?
It was…..and it was glorious
wooo dualguns being hotass but fuckit we ball and use it anyway
(mfs still complaining is actually wild)
bullet removal really hurt dual guns 💔 haven't fought anyone using it in so long
Gran Suda is NOT broken 😭
Excuse me "mr.I know every weapon" Where is the Darksteel and Kyrscleave in that "tips" not everyone has legendary weapons, nerd.
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so bro just mentioned some valuable weapons and called this a How to EFFECTIVELY use every weapon class in six minutes! | Deepwoken Tips
who tf are you
What about kyrscleave with nemesis
nerfed
still decent probably, but yeah much worse after the nerf that makes it flat posture damage
@@SpidersDW thank you both, I’m making a kyrscleave build with Ironsing should I change the weapon then? And to what heavy
@@SpidersDW it’s kyrscleave with berserk talent
@@SpidersDW Wb railblade detonation
Where jus karita
That Curved blade sucks bro
it's pretty good imo
@@SpidersDWhe meant ur opponent there (he started running giving u many hits to him)
SHINZOU WO SASAGEYO
Aot music W
And plants vs zombies I think, idk what first one is
"your playstyle can kinda differrrrrrr"
timestamp?
@@SpidersDW Watch your vid and pay attention. You drag out the second half of every last word of every sentence lmao just smth i noticed
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why does your voice sound so Freaky... 😳
nahhh I'm smough moria
spidersdw m1 spams with light? wipe him irl
relacks dawg
tbf it was only for the clips, I’ve only ever really mained medium weps
@@SpidersDW pray tell you dont spam permastun m1s on med too 🙏
So pale briar is a great hammer not a greataxe and even so afyer they gave its crit ap frames its kinda ass now sadly i would suggest trying out enforcers axe tho because for example enchants like elactic/chilling can confirm some easy dmg... Elastic on enforcers axe used to be trash but for some reason i fight more and more players that just weak out when hit with it not the exact reaction i expected from 1.4k elo players but for some reason enforcer weapons crits ussually just dont get parried... Truly confusing
0:01 "as a top player who like to gank new players and make them quit the game..."
ngl i dont rlly do that much if i gripped someone it's prob bcuz i either need to help my buddies or they're voidwalking