Hi, I have a question. I have acquired 2 similar type BYD. And as you make know the charger port is a Female type GB/T Standard pin. Which is Chinese standard. Is there a possibility to change the pin from a GB/T standard pin to Type 2 European pin ( I believe the properties of both the types are the same but the receptors are opposite sides). Please advise us if this is possible based on your Experience.
The charge port on mine looks like a standard Type 2. I remember reading on maybe Wikipedia that the connection might be slightly different but it charges OK on Type 2 chargers. I don't know more than that sorry.
E6 is the taxi/ride share model started in 2016. It’s built for heavy usage, many with over four hundred thousand miles on original battery are on the road. Chinese taxi driver typically replaces a new car every five years and about 440k miles.
So question, as I'm about to pickup an E6 as my Leaf replacement, the contactor box being at the back on the top means that the battery is directly accessible via this box? a 62kWh battery, just sitting there that also works as a car?
@@RaglansElectricBaboon I'm really interested to hear your driving experience, I know it will be simple slow and unrefined, but what is the real range like. Particularly at 100km/h?
@@sambrown2305 300km seems possible if you drive it nicely but I really don't take it on long journeys often so I can't give a good answer. I still have my house deposit(Tesla) and use it on the long trips. Enjoy it and check back in after a month or 3 please :)
@@RaglansElectricBaboon certainly will, if I could get 200km at 100km/h I would be absolutely stocked. The main reason I bought it is being a long time leaf driver battery degradation is there biggest issue by far (they're still awesome cars). If the BYD battery is as long lasting as it appears then that would be a dream come true. It's also a station wagon. YAY
mine the vaccum pump brake is making strange sounds and here I cant find the original replacement , do you know if I can replace it for other generic like Hella brand? thanks
You might have missed something. It does have the contractors but they are in the HV power distribution unit that you did not know what it is on top of the pack. That contains contractors, more fuses, bus bars etc. So with the distributed BMS separate HV PDU and long HV cables from back to front, the level of integration is very low, plus the to-be-improced module designs, hence high weight etc. Although the safety is not ideal, it is not really because it does not have contractors but rather being they are in another enclosure. This is definitely not good but not as bad as no contractors which would be crazy. And you should really follow instructions to disconnect the MSD first before you touch any HV components. The moment you open the pack of the connectors, you become liable for your own safety without the company's problem. And the way how you test the bulb is very unsafe as well. So I would recommend you to be more careful next time.
Hi Regan, I have one last question. The BYD shows a range of 300KM on a full charge. But when driven up to 50% the range drops noticed is drastic. And at instant sometimes in less than 5 mins, the battery kept dropping percentage every second. I would like to know what would be your thought. an email would be great to share some details, as I'm from Sri Lanka it's a rare car here. would appreciate your assistance in this regard.
@2:09 "This thing does not tell us what it is", FWIW the label says 高压配电箱总成 "High voltage electrical distribution box assembly" Thanks for a very interesting video!
Great Tear down, This is often considered a Taxi/ First Gen type of EV thou, Cheap and Disposable. Safety wise , i think in the later models should improve for International markets. Keep up the good work , Hope to see more , MG maybe?
This is great information that needs to be common knowledge in the DIY EV conversion / recycling community... Thanks for sharing. Earned a subscription from me!
@@RaglansElectricBaboon as far as I know, you are the first to publish anything substantial on these, at least outside of the Chinese internet bubble...
This is the 2009-2010 model, very old model, they been used as Taxi in Shenzhen for many years, the battery do last many many years by the responds from the taxi company and drivers.
This is actually a 2016. It was used as a taxi in Singapore for 240,000 km. I have another which I drive and is almost identical. It has done 360,000km and still has 90%+ SOH.
@Bernard, sorry for never replying. We imported some already used cars into NZ. To make them road legal they have to pass a rigorous inspection. This one had some crash damage and was going to be too expensive to be worth rectifying.
@@RaglansElectricBaboon Thanks for responding. Shame that the car was damaged too badly. But good to see that at least the battery has a new purpose now :) I own an e6 since a year now, but lack the ability to communicate with the cars' computer/control modules. How did you go about this?
0 for safety coming some a guy who took the protective shell of the battery pack because he is unable to disconnect the high voltage before removing cables. all battery packs are like this since you are referring to the actual posts for the packs.
All other EV battery packs I've handled (Leaf, Tesla, Hyundai, even Prius hybrid) have the contactors integrated into them. Give me an example of a pack that's like this but isn't from a toy. I'm interested to learn here.
Are you interested in CAN sniffing any of the components? It looks like there are two interesting 250kbps CAN buses, one for powertrain and one for charger - and the BMS is connected to both of them. Source: imgur.com/a/hlEZooy from max.book118.com/html/2019/1027/5202344142002143.shtm There's a BMS pinout about halfway down this page where you can see the two CAN bus connections, but the text is too blurry to read much else: www.gzweix.com/article/sort0253/sort0254/sort0671/info-325886.html (can't find the original source for that diagram.)
Awesome info, thank you. Yes I'm interested in sniffing it but I have so many other things I'm meant to be doing. Primarily I should be figuring out how to turn things into money rather than just hobbies... What's your interest in these? Have you worked on these cars? If you're in NZ you're welcome to come poke this with a CAN device :)
@@RaglansElectricBaboon Hey! No worries, totally makes sense :) I'd not seen the insides of an E6 until your video. I'm interested in EV conversion projects in general and I figured that BYD had sold a lot of this drivetrain in China, so there must be parts from wrecks out there somewhere (I don't have any source for those, just a theory). And the motor specs look pretty good. So was excited to see someone actually poking at one (haven't found anyone doing this on Chinese internet). Unfortunately I'm over the ditch in Australia, otherwise I'd definitely pop around for a bit of a tinker.
@@projectgus thanks again for the info, sorry you can't come visit. I have a sad story for you- allegedly there were about 20-30 ex UK E6s your side of the ditch briefly. Apparently bureaucrats said they couldn't go on your roads and so they came here. I don't know more than that but mine isn't from that batch.
BYD to stara firma a to model historyczny zauważyłeś kilka elementów które zkopiowała tesla teraz tesla kupiła tego typu akumulatory od calt chińczyków
Not sure where to start with such bias video. What makes you such an expert in this old car when you don't even know what a contractor is? And you do need to work on the terrible camera shake. If you want people to take your video seriously, put aside your prejudices aside first and be honest with what is obviously very limited knowledge you have on EV cars.
I have no idea why a contractor is relevant to this :-P I know exactly what a contactor is thank you very much. I know that there are none in this battery. This is unusual and could lead to people getting shocked if they are unaware, hence my warning here. I have no prejudices, i am reporting my findings and preferences. I have driven the e6 for over 4000km since this video and my conclusion remains the same. It is a functional car but no more. The Tesla is absolutely fantastic. I'm sorry if this upsets you. Yes, I absolutely need to fix the camera shake. Any tips?
Sorry but no conductors on the battery clearly is a safety issue, the battery pack is 300 volts DC, there should be a safe way to shut it down. Also of note, the oracat was recalled as owners were getting an electric shock off of the body of the vehicle while charging. And there there is the atto 3 showing clear signs of rust around the body mount points for the suspension components. I get the distinct feeling that chinese evs are built to a price point, that is making them of questionable safety
Can I increase the size of 12v battery in byd e6?
My father is looking at purchasing one of these, so thankyou for the very useful video
Hi, I have a question. I have acquired 2 similar type BYD. And as you make know the charger port is a Female type GB/T Standard pin. Which is Chinese standard.
Is there a possibility to change the pin from a GB/T standard pin to Type 2 European pin ( I believe the properties of both the types are the same but the receptors are opposite sides). Please advise us if this is possible based on your Experience.
The charge port on mine looks like a standard Type 2. I remember reading on maybe Wikipedia that the connection might be slightly different but it charges OK on Type 2 chargers. I don't know more than that sorry.
E6 is the taxi/ride share model started in 2016. It’s built for heavy usage, many with over four hundred thousand miles on original battery are on the road. Chinese taxi driver typically replaces a new car every five years and about 440k miles.
Would love to add dc fast charging to this car. Can it be done ?
So question, as I'm about to pickup an E6 as my Leaf replacement, the contactor box being at the back on the top means that the battery is directly accessible via this box? a 62kWh battery, just sitting there that also works as a car?
More or less, yes. Where did you get your car? I'll be interested to hear your review after a couple of months of ownership.
@@RaglansElectricBaboon I'm really interested to hear your driving experience, I know it will be simple slow and unrefined, but what is the real range like. Particularly at 100km/h?
I got it from GVI in Auckland, collect it on Saturday
@@sambrown2305 300km seems possible if you drive it nicely but I really don't take it on long journeys often so I can't give a good answer. I still have my house deposit(Tesla) and use it on the long trips. Enjoy it and check back in after a month or 3 please :)
@@RaglansElectricBaboon certainly will, if I could get 200km at 100km/h I would be absolutely stocked. The main reason I bought it is being a long time leaf driver battery degradation is there biggest issue by far (they're still awesome cars). If the BYD battery is as long lasting as it appears then that would be a dream come true. It's also a station wagon. YAY
mine the vaccum pump brake is making strange sounds and here I cant find the original replacement , do you know if I can replace it for other generic like Hella brand? thanks
Hi Jose, I have no idea sorry.
Don't kknow where you're from, but in Europe BYD can supply parts from the Netherlands
You might have missed something. It does have the contractors but they are in the HV power distribution unit that you did not know what it is on top of the pack. That contains contractors, more fuses, bus bars etc.
So with the distributed BMS separate HV PDU and long HV cables from back to front, the level of integration is very low, plus the to-be-improced module designs, hence high weight etc.
Although the safety is not ideal, it is not really because it does not have contractors but rather being they are in another enclosure. This is definitely not good but not as bad as no contractors which would be crazy. And you should really follow instructions to disconnect the MSD first before you touch any HV components. The moment you open the pack of the connectors, you become liable for your own safety without the company's problem. And the way how you test the bulb is very unsafe as well. So I would recommend you to be more careful next time.
I don't think he is interested in that since he seem to have a preconceived opinion about it, since it is Chinese ,before he even started.
Hi Regan, I have one last question. The BYD shows a range of 300KM on a full charge. But when driven up to 50% the range drops noticed is drastic. And at instant sometimes in less than 5 mins, the battery kept dropping percentage every second. I would like to know what would be your thought. an email would be great to share some details, as I'm from Sri Lanka it's a rare car here. would appreciate your assistance in this regard.
@2:09 "This thing does not tell us what it is", FWIW the label says 高压配电箱总成 "High voltage electrical distribution box assembly"
Thanks for a very interesting video!
Great Tear down, This is often considered a Taxi/ First Gen type of EV thou, Cheap and Disposable. Safety wise , i think in the later models should improve for International markets.
Keep up the good work , Hope to see more , MG maybe?
This is great information that needs to be common knowledge in the DIY EV conversion / recycling community... Thanks for sharing. Earned a subscription from me!
Cheers. I'm chuffed to be the only guy on RUclips to have stripped one of these (as far as I can tell).
@@RaglansElectricBaboon as far as I know, you are the first to publish anything substantial on these, at least outside of the Chinese internet bubble...
I thought BYD uses blade battery, no ?
New BYD E6 yes. This is the original, so no.
This is the 2009-2010 model, very old model, they been used as Taxi in Shenzhen for many years, the battery do last many many years.
Front Ac-DC "charger module" Front inverter for front motor, rear module is the contactor box.
Yes, having found no contactors in the battery case I think you are right. I will open it soon.
This is the 2009-2010 model, very old model, they been used as Taxi in Shenzhen for many years, the battery do last many many years by the responds from the taxi company and drivers.
This is actually a 2016. It was used as a taxi in Singapore for 240,000 km. I have another which I drive and is almost identical. It has done 360,000km and still has 90%+ SOH.
@@RaglansElectricBaboon what is the chemistry of this battery ?
Is the battery is K9, Master?
Yes, I see it!
I'm assuming its not a structural battery pack also lol!
Very interesting! But , if possible, activate image stabilization on the camera, it is painful to watch…
My camera doesn't seem to have it. Got any suggestions for apps/ways to achieve this?
Great video! What made you decide to dismantle the car?
Westerner trying to figure out Chinese tech 🤪 What a world 🌎
@Bernard, sorry for never replying. We imported some already used cars into NZ. To make them road legal they have to pass a rigorous inspection. This one had some crash damage and was going to be too expensive to be worth rectifying.
@@Tigerratcat better than sitting on my arse and watching others do things 😛
@@RaglansElectricBaboon this is true 😅
@@RaglansElectricBaboon Thanks for responding. Shame that the car was damaged too badly. But good to see that at least the battery has a new purpose now :) I own an e6 since a year now, but lack the ability to communicate with the cars' computer/control modules. How did you go about this?
I guess that byd is a budget car, it wouldn't be fair to compare it with the Tesla.
look what byd buids now, unbelievable this company. They really did rushed through EV evolution
0 for safety coming some a guy who took the protective shell of the battery pack because he is unable to disconnect the high voltage before removing cables. all battery packs are like this since you are referring to the actual posts for the packs.
All other EV battery packs I've handled (Leaf, Tesla, Hyundai, even Prius hybrid) have the contactors integrated into them. Give me an example of a pack that's like this but isn't from a toy. I'm interested to learn here.
Are you interested in CAN sniffing any of the components? It looks like there are two interesting 250kbps CAN buses, one for powertrain and one for charger - and the BMS is connected to both of them.
Source: imgur.com/a/hlEZooy from max.book118.com/html/2019/1027/5202344142002143.shtm
There's a BMS pinout about halfway down this page where you can see the two CAN bus connections, but the text is too blurry to read much else: www.gzweix.com/article/sort0253/sort0254/sort0671/info-325886.html (can't find the original source for that diagram.)
Awesome info, thank you. Yes I'm interested in sniffing it but I have so many other things I'm meant to be doing. Primarily I should be figuring out how to turn things into money rather than just hobbies...
What's your interest in these? Have you worked on these cars? If you're in NZ you're welcome to come poke this with a CAN device :)
@@RaglansElectricBaboon Hey! No worries, totally makes sense :)
I'd not seen the insides of an E6 until your video. I'm interested in EV conversion projects in general and I figured that BYD had sold a lot of this drivetrain in China, so there must be parts from wrecks out there somewhere (I don't have any source for those, just a theory). And the motor specs look pretty good. So was excited to see someone actually poking at one (haven't found anyone doing this on Chinese internet).
Unfortunately I'm over the ditch in Australia, otherwise I'd definitely pop around for a bit of a tinker.
@@projectgus thanks again for the info, sorry you can't come visit. I have a sad story for you- allegedly there were about 20-30 ex UK E6s your side of the ditch briefly. Apparently bureaucrats said they couldn't go on your roads and so they came here. I don't know more than that but mine isn't from that batch.
Your camera shake is terrible. You should invest in a gyro stabiliser
its the quality of camera not focusing, need a good camera
Are you seriously comparing E6 which is a people mover with that tesla??? 🤦🏻♂️
4 wheels? Check.
5 seats? Check.
Flying ability? No.
They seem pretty comparable to me.
BYD to stara firma a to model historyczny zauważyłeś kilka elementów które zkopiowała tesla teraz tesla kupiła tego typu akumulatory od calt chińczyków
Not sure where to start with such bias video. What makes you such an expert in this old car when you don't even know what a contractor is? And you do need to work on the terrible camera shake.
If you want people to take your video seriously, put aside your prejudices aside first and be honest with what is obviously very limited knowledge you have on EV cars.
I have no idea why a contractor is relevant to this :-P
I know exactly what a contactor is thank you very much. I know that there are none in this battery. This is unusual and could lead to people getting shocked if they are unaware, hence my warning here.
I have no prejudices, i am reporting my findings and preferences. I have driven the e6 for over 4000km since this video and my conclusion remains the same. It is a functional car but no more. The Tesla is absolutely fantastic. I'm sorry if this upsets you.
Yes, I absolutely need to fix the camera shake. Any tips?
Sorry but no conductors on the battery clearly is a safety issue, the battery pack is 300 volts DC, there should be a safe way to shut it down. Also of note, the oracat was recalled as owners were getting an electric shock off of the body of the vehicle while charging. And there there is the atto 3 showing clear signs of rust around the body mount points for the suspension components. I get the distinct feeling that chinese evs are built to a price point, that is making them of questionable safety
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