In my personal take, both games are great i don't know why wuwa fans attacks genshin fans and the vice versa, both games are great. For "me", i like Genshin's fantasy and overall simplicity which i like wuwa satisfying combat and movements. About community support, i really don't care if the dev listens or not as long as the game is enjoyable with or without them. That's my way of seeing this dumb debate about the two games, and players should learn more on what a "player" is, it's for us to have fun with the games and make bonds, not fight because the other is different or good/bad because of your "not" unique experience with the said game.
For me personally, 1 of the reason why players heavily criticize genshin is because the devs never listen. To the point that players such as myself leave the game. Imagine. Starting the game and spending 2-3 hours of your time. The moment you get to pull on a limited banner, you tend to just pull 4* characters. Or worst, get a 5* thats not even fun to use. That happened to me personally and it cost me 4 tries to get a decent 5* character. Not even the limited character. I got frustrated and just bought a decent account. The comparison will always be there specially from those players who moved from genshin to wuwa. Imagine, in a matter of a few hours, you can get 3 5* and a limited weapon which never happened in genshin. Mainly, the comparison came from those players who were not satisfied with the game. Genshin players may say that the “story” is great. Ok, ill give you that. But whenever you get to see the story, and those characters who talks with their mouth closed. No skip button. No facial expression. Recycled movement and gestures is outright lazy. In this day and age, with so many gatcha games wanting to get the title of being the “best”, the game needs to be competitive and aggressive on gaining players trust and love. Players dont want to see excuses and devs crying w/o even owning accountability is just weird and manipulative. Ive been looking and wanting to play a game that loves their players. Improves their game to be better. And actually change what needs to change. And thats not genshin. :) and thats also the reason why i deleted genshin the moment i played wuwa.
that part of ww fan is actually Genshin hater.. they want to prove that their new fav game is better, the funny part is that mentality end up make them evolved to Hoyo hater and they go around other Hoyo game communities too.. the above comments is the very example of that. Many thing in Genshin is extremely common sense for gacha game back then. These still exist to many game but hater gonna hate anyway.. Genshin is probably their first gacha
Bro sayin wuwa attacking genshin fan without knowin genshin fan the first who attack wuwa...not just that...they also attack ToF n even HSR itself by sayin it turn based it boring n gonna be deds games soon Stop play victim n just take the payback what u did first
Fundamentally, fantasy tends to be more favoured by the playerbase. Wuthering waves is too dark and serious and does not have that 'magic' when first starting out the game. With Rinacita, I'm seeing they are shifting towards more fantastical elements and gameplay, but definitely in the current state of both games, genshin has the advantage since they had loads of time to perfect their world building, but I can definitely see MASSIVE improvement on Wuwa's side given as to how receptive they are to the playerbase. We'll see how both games go, I'd really love if the competition between these two games will make BOTH games strive to be better. Genshin with their devs listening to the global playerbase more, and Wuwa polishing their world building and story telling.
A lot of modern gatchas and JRPGs right now tend to stick with the darker tones... The only thing is, there aren't many fans of darker games 😂 personally, gaming is escapism for me so i would definitely go with the lighter one. A lot of time, the "loud" fanbase who likes darker themes are in fact, the minority since most players don't really speak their minds 😂
you cant compare plots of genshin and wuwa. genshin had 4 years to cook the plot but wuwa does not even have a year. that's my only gripe about this vid everything else is ok.
Yes, I thought about that. I still believe that if we compare the beginning of when Genshin came out (Mondstadt, Liyue, and Travail Teaser), I still believe that Genshin had more potential at that time than WuWa.
10 mins to answer whats 1+1? Iam amazed there is still comparisons lol, at this point i dont even consider these 2 games on the same level to compare, wuthering over all feels much better and like an actual game made by game developers while genshin feels like an anime made by anime developers. Genshin is just genshin i dont use it as the standard for any game anymore every new gacha coming up has been on a league of their own genshin isnt in the conversation anymore. Wuthering,anantia,arknight,azure,NTE. Those are huge upgrade and and a new generation genshin is just a nostalgic game that is respected as the originator, nth more nth less.
I enjoy both. They actually really complament eacother well with their differences. I wish wuwu's music was on par with Genshin's as well as the english VAs, but the rest of it is great!
Suuuure. Defend a game that ignores fixing bug issues and largely deaf unless money is involved (but even then so many patches LATE) that the consumer base on CN made threats about Hoyo breaking the law of manipulating a released product. Cough* Neuvilette Spin to Win patched cancelled* Cough* and compensated w/ primogems. 😂😂😂 Hoyo deaf unless CN side riots and want to take em to court.
@@omercohen4647 Conparison makes games improve tbf. Genshin is a decent game, but can't say the same about devs. WuWa is in the track of being good devs. Just look at Final Fantasy 14 online. It's still alive today since 2010 since the players are happy with the devs improving. It's been out for 14 years. They flopped on their release, but due to improvements they made, A Realm Reborne update was known as the turnabout that makes the game loved dearly by players becasue the devs care.
Another content of comparing a 2020 gacha Vs 2024. It's obvious that new generations always surpass old ones but I don't know why still compare Genshin 2020 to Wuwa 2024. Why not compare Wuwa to a 2024 gacha game? Or why not compare Genshin 2020 to another 2020 game?? Which game is much better is what game gives the players what they want
This argument is very bad. You probably think it's unfair to compare both, when in fact there are more than enough reasons in this world to compare anything to anything else.
Genshin had all the time in the world to better their game. The thing is, they never did. They felt like they are superior and Noone can surpass them. The comparison is inevitable. Why do you think players from genshin moved to another game? Players like me are frustrated to that point that our last resort is to just delete the game. If they truly listen to their players, they should’ve updated their pull mechanic from the very start. Yet, the devs focuses on milking their players dry. I was a player of genshin and the comparison will always be part of my game. Im satisfied now. Thats also the reason why i compare both games. “Player satisfaction” is the key to a better game.
It's not that they didn't really listen to the community. I don't think they never tried to improve their game. They tried to add QoL every patch even if it is minimal. It's just that people's preferences change from time to time and the majority of these complaints are just none other than the skip button. It truly is unfair to compare an old generation to a new one. It's like comparing a Nokia phone to an iPhone. Of course, the iPhone always wins because it has newer technology and the people's preferences change but before it was released, Nokia still dominated the market because people's preferences weren't that high. If you want to compare a 4 year old game to a 6 month old game, it should have included all the contents of the game, but most you can see is a version Wuwa 1.0 to a 1.0 genshin which is not fair since Wuwa took 4 years just to create something better. It's much better to compare a 1.x to a 4.x version of the game since you're comparing a newer release to the old one, but only the very first release of the old one was used to compare, but no content creator tried it. This is the first one where I saw that Sumeru and Fontaine were used in comparing the content of the game. Don't get me wrong. I don't hate Wuwa, I like both games, at first for me Wuwa is boring but that changed after Shorekeeper, and Camelya story is heart bursting, and imt saving pulls for Carlotta. I just don't like the game I love playing being cursed by the community.
@@DanielCastillo-df1dd I don't agree with all your ideas but I like that you don't criticize for criticizing for just hating the game, I also like both games and almost the same thing happened to me, what I don't like is the community fight that becomes very toxic, I remember when Wuwa was hated before it even came out and over time Wuwa players began to hate Genshin and even though they are only 1% of their communities, being so large they end up being too prominent. I am glad that even if you do not share the same opinion you are not closed to dialogue like others who, no matter what they are told, would not change their opinions or even understand them.
4 years compared to 7mo story will def not compare much but with Kuro's timeline I guess its says a lot from its development of their story. GI "creativity" was unmatched until Wuwa came it was a nosedive from this recent year even on combat movements they will have the same sets from the weapon that they are using it not creative that's a lazy design. i think for exploration i dont like getting stuck on a ledge or being struck down by my stamina like a old fart that can run only 2 meters though both game have stunning panoramic views. as both being gacha games maybe you should compare their most compelling aspect of them as being a gacha. well its just my opinion and my thoughts.
@@skrypnykk.770can you tell me what lore is on Wuwa? I've been playing it since the Shorekeeper banner but I have no idea what the lore is about. It feels like I'm having amnesia like the MC going to different places without directions
@@DanielCastillo-df1dd I guess you should have not abused the skip button? just assuming if that's the case. why not rewatch what has happened from CC's that played through it.
@KuroNekoEleven I'm not abusing the skip button, but all the knowledge I know so far is how important is the MC to the shorekeeper, but I don't think the MC has any remembrance. And so far it's a sad type of memory like the characters who knew the MC were having some kind of regret. Also about being stuck on a ledge or being out of stamina isn't really a problem. There are alternatives to overcome that. If you play BOTW, you really don't care about out of stamina or being stuck, and GI gameplay is like botw, so comparing Wuwa to GI is not a fair comparison.
Always seeing this topic to new creators in the gacha space lmao. Same old d/mb topic to milked off pfft. You guys are always comparing APPLES TO ORANGES. At the end of the day, it will matter to personal preference. That's why marketing has this called TARGET AUDIENCE.
Objectively WuWa has more interesting features. However, Genshin just looks more polished graphics wise. I think it plays a big role for gacha audience. I’m quite disappointed how crafty some of the textures or characters elements look like. Like - Shorekeeper is cool design concept but her outfit has these choppy pixels round the edges no matter the graphic specs (my machine is very good). So it’s like, why? To me if only WuWa looked more consistent graphics wise it would shit on Genshin
I think they are equal, Wuwa has trash story and characters writing, Genshin has bad and obviously outdated combat and graphics compared to Wuwa. Games are just for different types of players.
the hoyoshills will attack in the comments to maintain the population of their mintpickers 😂
Both games have mint picking 😂
In my personal take, both games are great i don't know why wuwa fans attacks genshin fans and the vice versa, both games are great.
For "me", i like Genshin's fantasy and overall simplicity which i like wuwa satisfying combat and movements.
About community support, i really don't care if the dev listens or not as long as the game is enjoyable with or without them.
That's my way of seeing this dumb debate about the two games, and players should learn more on what a "player" is, it's for us to have fun with the games and make bonds, not fight because the other is different or good/bad because of your "not" unique experience with the said game.
For me personally, 1 of the reason why players heavily criticize genshin is because the devs never listen. To the point that players such as myself leave the game. Imagine. Starting the game and spending 2-3 hours of your time. The moment you get to pull on a limited banner, you tend to just pull 4* characters. Or worst, get a 5* thats not even fun to use. That happened to me personally and it cost me 4 tries to get a decent 5* character. Not even the limited character. I got frustrated and just bought a decent account.
The comparison will always be there specially from those players who moved from genshin to wuwa. Imagine, in a matter of a few hours, you can get 3 5* and a limited weapon which never happened in genshin.
Mainly, the comparison came from those players who were not satisfied with the game.
Genshin players may say that the “story” is great. Ok, ill give you that. But whenever you get to see the story, and those characters who talks with their mouth closed. No skip button. No facial expression. Recycled movement and gestures is outright lazy.
In this day and age, with so many gatcha games wanting to get the title of being the “best”, the game needs to be competitive and aggressive on gaining players trust and love.
Players dont want to see excuses and devs crying w/o even owning accountability is just weird and manipulative.
Ive been looking and wanting to play a game that loves their players. Improves their game to be better. And actually change what needs to change. And thats not genshin. :) and thats also the reason why i deleted genshin the moment i played wuwa.
that part of ww fan is actually Genshin hater.. they want to prove that their new fav game is better, the funny part is that mentality end up make them evolved to Hoyo hater and they go around other Hoyo game communities too..
the above comments is the very example of that.
Many thing in Genshin is extremely common sense for gacha game back then. These still exist to many game but hater gonna hate anyway.. Genshin is probably their first gacha
Bro sayin wuwa attacking genshin fan without knowin genshin fan the first who attack wuwa...not just that...they also attack ToF n even HSR itself by sayin it turn based it boring n gonna be deds games soon
Stop play victim n just take the payback what u did first
Fundamentally, fantasy tends to be more favoured by the playerbase. Wuthering waves is too dark and serious and does not have that 'magic' when first starting out the game. With Rinacita, I'm seeing they are shifting towards more fantastical elements and gameplay, but definitely in the current state of both games, genshin has the advantage since they had loads of time to perfect their world building, but I can definitely see MASSIVE improvement on Wuwa's side given as to how receptive they are to the playerbase. We'll see how both games go, I'd really love if the competition between these two games will make BOTH games strive to be better. Genshin with their devs listening to the global playerbase more, and Wuwa polishing their world building and story telling.
A lot of modern gatchas and JRPGs right now tend to stick with the darker tones... The only thing is, there aren't many fans of darker games 😂 personally, gaming is escapism for me so i would definitely go with the lighter one.
A lot of time, the "loud" fanbase who likes darker themes are in fact, the minority since most players don't really speak their minds 😂
you cant compare plots of genshin and wuwa. genshin had 4 years to cook the plot but wuwa does not even have a year.
that's my only gripe about this vid everything else is ok.
Yes, I thought about that. I still believe that if we compare the beginning of when Genshin came out (Mondstadt, Liyue, and Travail Teaser), I still believe that Genshin had more potential at that time than WuWa.
So why do Hsr had awesome story from 1.0? Kuro could do the same but as we can see they failed hard. 7 months is not an excuse
@@skrypnykk.770people just like penacony. Nobody like herta station, belobog or xiangzhou
hsr story also dogwater tho specially from the recent patches,too much bloated dialogue. id rather have generic story than this yapfest
@@skrypnykk.770 hsr story is only good if you compare the story to other hoyo titles.
Finally a video that doesnt feel like the creator hates genshin and only mentions the negatives about it
with this SHAFT edit, id say this video is PEAK
ABSOLUTE CINEMA....
Alright, but what are your filters settings in wuthering waves? They look so nice
The hate for kuro and their games is unwarranted
Two different games. Just characters running around in open world and people think it's the same 😂
10 mins to answer whats 1+1? Iam amazed there is still comparisons lol, at this point i dont even consider these 2 games on the same level to compare, wuthering over all feels much better and like an actual game made by game developers while genshin feels like an anime made by anime developers.
Genshin is just genshin i dont use it as the standard for any game anymore every new gacha coming up has been on a league of their own genshin isnt in the conversation anymore.
Wuthering,anantia,arknight,azure,NTE. Those are huge upgrade and and a new generation genshin is just a nostalgic game that is respected as the originator, nth more nth less.
I enjoy both. They actually really complament eacother well with their differences. I wish wuwu's music was on par with Genshin's as well as the english VAs, but the rest of it is great!
both games are amazing it wrong to compare them and my opinion they both standing in the same status that why they are competing a lot
fk are u talking about?
Suuuure. Defend a game that ignores fixing bug issues and largely deaf unless money is involved (but even then so many patches LATE) that the consumer base on CN made threats about Hoyo breaking the law of manipulating a released product. Cough* Neuvilette Spin to Win patched cancelled* Cough* and compensated w/ primogems. 😂😂😂 Hoyo deaf unless CN side riots and want to take em to court.
Fair
it is good to compare them thats why zzz is trying to listen to player where genshin ignored it players. wuwa changed zzz because of comparison!
@@omercohen4647 Conparison makes games improve tbf. Genshin is a decent game, but can't say the same about devs. WuWa is in the track of being good devs. Just look at Final Fantasy 14 online. It's still alive today since 2010 since the players are happy with the devs improving. It's been out for 14 years. They flopped on their release, but due to improvements they made, A Realm Reborne update was known as the turnabout that makes the game loved dearly by players becasue the devs care.
nice! keep up the great work!
Thanks!
Genshin has it own good aspect but the only thing i dont like about genshin is their community....i dont want explain why bcoz it gonna be an essay
Another content of comparing a 2020 gacha Vs 2024. It's obvious that new generations always surpass old ones but I don't know why still compare Genshin 2020 to Wuwa 2024. Why not compare Wuwa to a 2024 gacha game? Or why not compare Genshin 2020 to another 2020 game??
Which game is much better is what game gives the players what they want
This argument is very bad. You probably think it's unfair to compare both, when in fact there are more than enough reasons in this world to compare anything to anything else.
Genshin had all the time in the world to better their game. The thing is, they never did. They felt like they are superior and Noone can surpass them. The comparison is inevitable. Why do you think players from genshin moved to another game? Players like me are frustrated to that point that our last resort is to just delete the game.
If they truly listen to their players, they should’ve updated their pull mechanic from the very start. Yet, the devs focuses on milking their players dry.
I was a player of genshin and the comparison will always be part of my game. Im satisfied now. Thats also the reason why i compare both games. “Player satisfaction” is the key to a better game.
It's not that they didn't really listen to the community. I don't think they never tried to improve their game. They tried to add QoL every patch even if it is minimal. It's just that people's preferences change from time to time and the majority of these complaints are just none other than the skip button. It truly is unfair to compare an old generation to a new one. It's like comparing a Nokia phone to an iPhone. Of course, the iPhone always wins because it has newer technology and the people's preferences change but before it was released, Nokia still dominated the market because people's preferences weren't that high.
If you want to compare a 4 year old game to a 6 month old game, it should have included all the contents of the game, but most you can see is a version Wuwa 1.0 to a 1.0 genshin which is not fair since Wuwa took 4 years just to create something better. It's much better to compare a 1.x to a 4.x version of the game since you're comparing a newer release to the old one, but only the very first release of the old one was used to compare, but no content creator tried it. This is the first one where I saw that Sumeru and Fontaine were used in comparing the content of the game.
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate Wuwa, I like both games, at first for me Wuwa is boring but that changed after Shorekeeper, and Camelya story is heart bursting, and imt saving pulls for Carlotta. I just don't like the game I love playing being cursed by the community.
@@DanielCastillo-df1dd I don't agree with all your ideas but I like that you don't criticize for criticizing for just hating the game, I also like both games and almost the same thing happened to me, what I don't like is the community fight that becomes very toxic, I remember when Wuwa was hated before it even came out and over time Wuwa players began to hate Genshin and even though they are only 1% of their communities, being so large they end up being too prominent.
I am glad that even if you do not share the same opinion you are not closed to dialogue like others who, no matter what they are told, would not change their opinions or even understand them.
A literal KFC vs Jollibee battle.
4 years compared to 7mo story will def not compare much but with Kuro's timeline I guess its says a lot from its development of their story. GI "creativity" was unmatched until Wuwa came it was a nosedive from this recent year even on combat movements they will have the same sets from the weapon that they are using it not creative that's a lazy design. i think for exploration i dont like getting stuck on a ledge or being struck down by my stamina like a old fart that can run only 2 meters though both game have stunning panoramic views. as both being gacha games maybe you should compare their most compelling aspect of them as being a gacha. well its just my opinion and my thoughts.
It is not an excuse (7 months) if wuwa has trash story) HSR had amazing story from 1.0 so? Why wuwa failed so hard then?
@@skrypnykk.770can you tell me what lore is on Wuwa? I've been playing it since the Shorekeeper banner but I have no idea what the lore is about. It feels like I'm having amnesia like the MC going to different places without directions
@@DanielCastillo-df1dd I guess you should have not abused the skip button? just assuming if that's the case. why not rewatch what has happened from CC's that played through it.
@@skrypnykk.770 I thought we are comparing GI and Wuwa? well please explain first what happened in HSR's panacota? sorry I don't play that.
@KuroNekoEleven I'm not abusing the skip button, but all the knowledge I know so far is how important is the MC to the shorekeeper, but I don't think the MC has any remembrance. And so far it's a sad type of memory like the characters who knew the MC were having some kind of regret.
Also about being stuck on a ledge or being out of stamina isn't really a problem. There are alternatives to overcome that. If you play BOTW, you really don't care about out of stamina or being stuck, and GI gameplay is like botw, so comparing Wuwa to GI is not a fair comparison.
Question IS That Even AN Question !?
i'm tired of both Fandom.
Can't you both just Silent ,for 5 minutes.
Wuthering Waves is still too young to be comparable to Genshin. It's not even 1 year old, compared to the already 4 year old Genshin.
I like genshin as well as wuwa but man 4 year and no SKIP BUTTON ahh thats hurt . HI3 .ZZZ has it so why cant HSR and Genshin
Always seeing this topic to new creators in the gacha space lmao.
Same old d/mb topic to milked off pfft.
You guys are always comparing APPLES TO ORANGES.
At the end of the day, it will matter to personal preference. That's why marketing has this called TARGET AUDIENCE.
Both are games good
disneyland (genshin) vs universal studio (wuwa)
Stop comparing these games 🙄 i hope Ananta blows both of them out of the water... some wuwa players used to be genshin players... hypocrites 😂
Objectively WuWa has more interesting features. However, Genshin just looks more polished graphics wise. I think it plays a big role for gacha audience. I’m quite disappointed how crafty some of the textures or characters elements look like. Like - Shorekeeper is cool design concept but her outfit has these choppy pixels round the edges no matter the graphic specs (my machine is very good). So it’s like, why? To me if only WuWa looked more consistent graphics wise it would shit on Genshin
Polished graphics?? Genshin??....... really??
@ as for a mobile gacha game from 2020 - yes. WuWa had 4 more years to perfect it and the game looks cheaper
Bro u need to louder your voice
I had a problem with the microphone this week and the video was lower than expected, next week it will improve
I think they are equal, Wuwa has trash story and characters writing, Genshin has bad and obviously outdated combat and graphics compared to Wuwa. Games are just for different types of players.