Owen, a couple of things, first, when you have a curve and a grade, the curve adds some resistance to moving the train. Second, if you will take some pliers and gently bend the tap on the tender backward, just a little, this will help the train stay together. In the days of steam, it was not uncommon to double a hill i.e., take half the train to the summit and return for the second half. Thanks for sharing.
With a TPC you can control conventional trains with a cab 1 or cab 2 remote. The remote controls the power to the track, just like your transformer, so you would still need to increase/decrease power for elevation changes. Still might make things a little easier for filming.
You can make a Lionel train more capable of going up hill, by putting down strips of masking or painters tape, on the rail of the right side of track. Just be sure to press it down well against rail or it might make wheel lift off of track. The strips of tape can be alternating, just like center stripes on the highway. Add weight to cars to keep the wheels from coming off the track, ie small rocks to hopper, piece of steel on the flat bed car. This worked great on the Black River Freight(1976) series train, on my trestles setup.
I was hoping to see a wise instruction of track from one level to the other. That did not work out, but it confirmed what I already thought, that a much longer grade is needed to climb. My simple advice to you: Unless you are running the old tinplate the place of starting the rise and the end have to be very little, to no obvious bend or crack of the track. Other wise you have hook problems, traction problems and connection problems.
I have a Lionel O train I’d like to run from table top up track mounted to a wall that will be about 5 feet above the table. I would appreciate any pointers you can give.
Coming from the construction industry before my retirement when it comes to grades I strictly adhere to no more than 3/8 of inch for each ft I prefer 1/4 inch per ft but sometimes you just need that little extra space, especially when double stacks are involved.But even with that I was able to go from 48.5 inches table top height to 60.5 inches,with noproblem at all but in time in became to much a hassle to reach areas so I have since torn out and am rebuilding everything is at 48.5 inches wuth a room size of 15.5 feet by 19.5 you run out of room real quick especially when all you run is 3 rail scale equipment,so good luck with everything hope it starts working for you.
@@OKRanchRailroad Owen yes your right tight curves definitely add an additional challenge,reversing loops are great on my old layout I had one and currently the new layout I am building it is a continuios run,but I will have the ability to reverse direction as well,my old layout is under the heading Santa Fe Rio Grande Western it was posted back in June, but like I said just to much to maintain so its gone the new one will concentrate on industrial switching with a continuous run capability using insulated rail joiners and MTHs DCS system along with Lionels TMCC system,but again good luck and your layout is looking great.
Very easy to watch video with your great commentary too. Is the grey track underlay you've used, the foam used in the gaps between concrete slabs? I was going to put it under my layout as it seems to have good sound deadening qualities, comes in 3" wide rolls and is rather cheap. Love your layout !
GREAT display.. just a note... VERY VERY difficult to read the scrolling text at such an angle... :-(. Also, scrolls too fastT. just my opinion while enjoying your work!
I’m working on slowing down the scroll speed. I think in the video that will go live at midnight it will be more readable. Thanks for watching and commenting. Owen
Owen, a couple of things, first, when you have a curve and a grade, the curve adds some resistance to moving the train. Second, if you will take some pliers and gently bend the tap on the tender backward, just a little, this will help the train stay together. In the days of steam, it was not uncommon to double a hill i.e., take half the train to the summit and return for the second half. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for giving out the product information, interesting touch.
Nice layout .Thanks for the track grade info I like how you elevated your track.
Looks great, Owen! Keep up the amazing work! Love seeing the layout operate!
You have some fun operations there on your layout.
@@OKRanchRailroad thanks my friend. good work
With a TPC you can control conventional trains with a cab 1 or cab 2 remote. The remote controls the power to the track, just like your transformer, so you would still need to increase/decrease power for elevation changes. Still might make things a little easier for filming.
You can make a Lionel train more capable of going up hill, by putting down strips of masking or painters tape, on the rail of the right side of track. Just be sure to press it down well against rail or it might make wheel lift off of track. The strips of tape can be alternating, just like center stripes on the highway. Add weight to cars to keep the wheels from coming off the track, ie small rocks to hopper, piece of steel on the flat bed car. This worked great on the Black River Freight(1976) series train, on my trestles setup.
Very interesting layout! Could you tell us the % grade? What length does the train use to climb, and what height does it get to?
I was hoping to see a wise instruction of track from one level to the other. That did not work out, but it confirmed what I already thought, that a much longer grade is needed to climb. My simple advice to you: Unless you are running the old tinplate the place of starting the rise and the end have to be very little, to no obvious bend or crack of the track. Other wise you have hook problems, traction problems and connection problems.
Back in the days of steel track and Magnatraction, those old postwar locomotives would've pulled that grade with no problem...
I have a Lionel O train I’d like to run from table top up track mounted to a wall that will be about 5 feet above the table. I would appreciate any pointers you can give.
Coming from the construction industry before my retirement when it comes to grades I strictly adhere to no more than 3/8 of inch for each ft I prefer 1/4 inch per ft but sometimes you just need that little extra space, especially when double stacks are involved.But even with that I was able to go from 48.5 inches table top height to 60.5 inches,with noproblem at all but in time in became to much a hassle to reach areas so I have since torn out and am rebuilding everything is at 48.5 inches wuth a room size of 15.5 feet by 19.5 you run out of room real quick especially when all you run is 3 rail scale equipment,so good luck with everything hope it starts working for you.
@@OKRanchRailroad Owen yes your right tight curves definitely add an additional challenge,reversing loops are great on my old layout I had one and currently the new layout I am building it is a continuios run,but I will have the ability to reverse direction as well,my old layout is under the heading Santa Fe Rio Grande Western it was posted back in June, but like I said just to much to maintain so its gone the new one will concentrate on industrial switching with a continuous run capability using insulated rail joiners and MTHs DCS system along with Lionels TMCC system,but again good luck and your layout is looking great.
Very easy to watch video with your great commentary too. Is the grey track underlay you've used, the foam used in the gaps between concrete slabs? I was going to put it under my layout as it seems to have good sound deadening qualities, comes in 3" wide rolls and is rather cheap. Love your layout !
I got a steeper grade then that and mine run it fine, but, all mine have traction tires and are at the smallest a 4 8 4.
GREAT display.. just a note... VERY VERY difficult to read the scrolling text at such an angle... :-(. Also, scrolls too fastT. just my opinion while enjoying your work!
I’m working on slowing down the scroll speed. I think in the video that will go live at midnight it will be more readable. Thanks for watching and commenting. Owen
grades too steep