It doesn't matter how educated a BW is. If she's urban and/or was raised by a single-mother, she'll either go for stereotypical urban black males or non-BM. BM that do not fit the stereotype are anathema to 99.9% of American BW. The only time their tastes change is when they've popped out a few kids and/or they're older and past their prime. The non-select brother, who became select after years of hard work and has grown in confidence and self-esteem, will not touch these women. It's an insult to have a woman you wanted years ago approach you, asking you to save them. You don't get to enjoy them in their prime; you get the leftovers, and you are supposed to be happy about it... We forgive, but we do not forget.
What about the women that go through the same thing, we get rejected. Then years later when we looking different from our high school days the same guys that wanted the pretty girls in school step to us the same way.
Good friend. Black women, gotta love em, but they are so so quick to brutally bash and reject any black many checking for them for superficial reasons, when a majority of them are at his level or lower.
Probably has a lot to do with deflection. People sometimes project their feelings about themselves unto others. And quite as it is kept, a lot Black folks have deep seeded emotional deficiencies living in America in general or specific to their upbringing. A lot of the sistas are jaded, and we can acknowledge that. But we are in a information/efficiency age and nobody is waiting around for anyone empathy or not.
I agree, being rejected or turned downed is not that bad, it's part of life. But too many bw will visicously humiliate a brother just from a simple hello or attempt to have a short conversation.
I had a white gf when I was 19, she was actually my first experience. Then I began dating black females exclusively until I turned 35. I really got tired of dating non appreciative BAW. So, I began dating Dominican women. Ultimately, I fell in love with a Filipina who is now my fiancée . I wanted a woman who believed in traditional values on marriage. I think feminism has made it virtually impossible to find a black woman who will be submissive to her man.
Jiril Clemons This message was pounded into us for a long time. It does mess with your psyche when you are a younger. I am not going to let my son be hurt by it.
NegroDeSangue nope, don’t forget tyler perry’s temptation where the woman cheated and later seen him moved on with another woman and child. Also tyler perry’s family that preys where the bw was cheating with the mother’s friend’s son.
Chicks like her don’t really like your average black guy . She already has reasons to write you off . She’s just mad because she’s losing to other women. That’s all!
LiveYOURLIFE if the average black woman is self entitled, loud, obnoxious & manly then what do yo expect? If you gone sit up here & say this video & the things that are being said arent true then you delusional.
Boy am I glad I'm awake. I understand where you brothas are coming from. And this is coming from a foreign black woman who's a daddy's girl lol.... My dad trained me well indeed. My African American Man is a witness to that lol. Made him fall in love with me, and treating him like the king he is. Supporting him, reminding him how much I appreciate him, cooking for him. I respect his commitment to working hard. But one thing I always said even to God that I would never do is DISRESPECT HIM!... so not all black women is bad.
@@melg.7665 If he's good enuff for her then dammit he's a prize for me. The white girl had unknowingly vouched for you. In fact some crafty select brothers befriend non-Black women to party,shop, travel with in order to attract Black women. 😌
They’re trashy bro. Even when white woman turn us down it’s not harsh or disrespectful, but a black chick always wants to hurt your ego… hella masculine energy
Dennis Rodman, was heavily rejected by black women in his neighborhood. When he got to the NBA those same women who rejected would always be hanging around his mother home, always asking how he was doing.
Go to a club or bar on a Friday or Saturday night: Which "type" of women do you see sitting down with frowns on their faces? Which "type" do you see actually having a fun time on the dance floor (hint: even if their rhythm is a little off, lol)?
You are speaking truth. Alan Currie posted a good article over on negromansophere.com: negromanosphere.com/80-20-rule-theory-become-pronounced-21st-century/ We are living in that hypergamous moment, and women will have to pay the cost for their preferences. So, they reject and humiliate good dudes; who are actually more upstanding then them, but might not meet a basic check list item, etc. Well, they will have to accept those dudes seeking happiness elsewhere and enjoy the 'harem life' because don't be fooled, those women will be sharing a man with for the foreseeable future. Their choice...
This has been the topic of discussion in my barbershop for the past year or so and the general consensus is as you’ve stated...men want to be celebrated not tolerated and in some cases, kindness can overcompensate for a lack of body structure. Great video RW✊🏿
Kenni Mac And the feminine, kind ones relate to the loud ratchet ones. If you’re not like those women, then why do you associate yourselves with them? I don’t...
@@RomWills You sound really insecure and hateful . some women react in a certain way when approached by black men because of bad experiences that they have had
I've seen it myself how some sistas would viciously reject a "black" man, and I would just look at the chick like Damn Daniel! You ain't gotta be like that. He's just saying hi. 😏
Yep. Non-Black women are different and almost excited that you are even speaking with them a lot of times. If you took away the anti-Black male propaganda of the MSM, angry Black women and envious white men, Black men would dominate the dating market in America, period.
So true, they do reject black men all the time. Their standards are so high against black men. But black males can find a value women with less chance of rejection in different nations.
I just hit my thirties and realize that I need not approach any woman. Rather, I don't speak until spoken to, and I keep my interactions with them very short. I ignore them and they flock to me like white on rice on a paper plate in a snow storm.
curving a guy is a notch on the belt for bw. I tried to talk to a girl at a drive thru window, all i asked was her name and she rudely shut me down. Im good on bw.
Its interesting to read some of the comments in this thread. I'm a brutha that would be considered professional and slightly bookish, average height, athletic build, dark skinned; but the feed back I get from Black American women is positive even though I never approach them. Back in high school, they thought I was too dark skinned, etc. But as an adult Im always getting choosing signals from sistas, they tend to be real sexually aggressive; damn near masculine in their thirst. A year ago I was at a McDonalds drive thru and this caramel skin sista was working, about a 6.5 but with a real banging body, and some huuuuge tits. I said something slick to her just joking around, and broad said to me, " I get off at 7." But I was actually going to pick up my gf from work. So, what I think many are making clear, while the rest of society is now transforming into a 80/20 dating market; Black America has been a 80/20 dating marking since the late 1990s for sure...
Good video. You addressed a lot of key points in a very fair way. I saw her video and my take was that although it came from a genuine place, I think that she wasn't willing to examine the whole problem. Several times she tacitly touched on the "attitude" aspect that men complain about, but it was obvious that she had already mentally framed 'attitude' to mean: "standing up for herself", "Holding men accountable", "Men wanting to get away with something". This is one of the reasons that these kinds of relationship discussions never make progress, a lot of black women don't want to hear any reason that doesn't reflect negatively on black men or might require them to look inward. So long as that aspect of the discussion is already taken off of the table, any questions about why black men aren't dating them is pointless.
Never thought about it like that. I actually took a step back from dating and started peeping a behavior pattern I didn't like. And that's why I'm very choosey on the sistas I dig. A lot of black women act like white men(if you get what I'm sayin) when it comes to black men.
School Shiiit 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 taking that step back, will keep u alive. read the body language of all the woman u deal with not just the wrds out of their mouth
Bruh, this is facts. The type of sistas you mention, have a high bar standard for Black men, and a low bar standard for white men. That's why many bruthas are voting with their feet and dollars, and ignoring arguing with bed wench types.
Str8 👆, Rom! I learned, in this GAME, that you must put your happiness FIRST. If a non black woman is making you happy, then so be it. People, especially black folks, think someone OWES them something...😥😥😥
To the women that’s listening to Uncle Rom! Listen, Learn, and have a solid take away from what’s being said by Uncle Rom and Brothers in the comment section. There is no mass collusion going on. Brothers are experiencing similar if not identical interactions with you.
im listening and been taking notes where i needed to since 2016. but this doesn't apply to me since i just reject with a no thank you or i have to go .
Makes a lot of sense Rom. Ladies, those guys who you think are too short, a lil too nerdy or aint got that much swag are the ones who will be HUSBAND MATERIAL. Kinda makes you wonder... Some black women who Known and been around black men their WHOLE LIFE and complain saying "I can't find a good black man". Meanwhile, a white or Asian woman will find and end up with a GOOD BLACK MAN BY ACCIDENT LOL... I wonder why😱😱
Good Point.... To me, its like the difference between deciding to feed a tiger, which is primal brain dominant and then attempting to pet it vs. deciding to feed a golden labrador retriever. Even though the tiger is more exotic and beautiful, it's more likely to kill you. When you feed the golden lab, he may cuddle with you and lick your face. After trying your best to win the tiger's honor towards you and almost dying in the process, you finally realize that it's not worth it and start exclusively feeding that golden lab.
With that analogy, you might have to consider that within America, sometimes the most desirable mate is that 'golden lab' because the dating pool is filled with hyenas and jackals...
This is #1. Reason a lot of black men jump the fence. It doesn't mean they hate black women at all. They "get in where they fit in". Black women can't have it both ways. In one breathe say "black men ain't shit ", or "there are no good black men". But in the next breath , scream "sellout" or "you dont like your momma". Expecting black men to stay is like trying to pet a dog that keeps trying to bite you
The reason I stopped dating black women is because they do everything in their abilities to tear a decent dude down! I'm physically attracted to black women. But, mentally, I'm not. Black women do everything to make a guy feel unwanted. People might call me a sellout(like I give a dam..) But, I took the route to dating women of other races. I'm not saying that they are perfect, but the girl I'm with does make me feel wanted.
Don't feel bad brotha. I'm in a similar situation. She's 9 years older than me, she's British, and yes it's a long distance relationship. Me Living here in NY, I've experienced rejection in the worst way by black women. Like you, I physically love black women, but mentally and in other categories, They are NOT qualified. Being that it's a long distance relationship, I wouldn't recommend it to most people. But I'm happy, and I'm finally at peace with my life and a Lady ✌🏿
Great topic. A lot of Black women up until 35, don't consider the fact that we are all in a competitive free dating market. Typically a mans value is rising when a woman's is sinking as far as sexual market value. Too many sistas believe they have ownership of Black men, so rather than consider the competition and tailor their behavior to that reality; they believe that shaming men by using 'your mama is black' or other ad hominem attacks will keep Black men from seeking happiness somewhere else. Rom didn't go in-depth about non-Black women being in that gym focusing on ass and thighs these days. I'm in the Midwest so it is probably more pronounced here.These women are in compete mode, I met a bikini model competitor the other day in the gym, but I prefer my Black and African sistas. Still, I can't deny the broad was choosing heavily and she was a 8 with a 9 body. We are all competing, be considerate...
I rarely approach women. In fact maybe only 5 percent of the women I've dealt with I approach. Since i'm real introverted most women believe "he's too shy to ever to approach me so I better get over there and let him know what's up " and It probably cuts down my numbers in comparison to extraverted guy but I don't got time to deal with attitudes my reactions to bad attitude isn't the best yet.
AtlantaGeorgia404 If you confide in the behaviour of them being rude to you in the beginning in hopes of them loving you later then you are a simp. You should never date a woman who is rude or stuck up period.
@Gedeon Kunduba - Thank you for your comment and you are correct. One must know the difference between a woman that is putting up a defense mechanism versus a genuine bad attitude. There are things you can say and conversations you can have to determine the difference and it doesn’t take long. I’ve seen how some guys approach these women and honestly it can be quite disrespectful. And some guys, especially MGTOW understudies, approach these women straightaway expecting them to be rude. If you put that energy out there, it will come back to you. I personally won’t keep trying to get at a woman that is disrespectful, materialistic, or shallow.
Rom is so spot on here. I’ve lived what he’s talking about. I (unfortunately) had to cross Black American (born and raised) women of my list a loooong time ago. Black Women from Africa, Latin America, Caribbean, SE and Pacific Asia, and Europe, have been great! Not perfect of course, but a different reception. It ain’t the skin color but the American acculturation and the attitude that work against Black American women, and it’s a shame.
Nice video, I can relate because I was a nerd, not dark enough, corny, lame, no swag, rejected all all over the place. Other women are becoming more attractive.
@@Jedilord882 No, that's not true; 40 years of mental brainwashing and removing Black men from their families and elevating women over their men for careers. I remember a few decades ago when attractive fit Black women could easily upset a room full of other women without even trying. Now too many are fighting against appealing to Black men.
Brothers may choose a woman of a different race but what's not being looked at is the cultural aspect especially if you're looking at a long term relationship or marriage. How will the black man fit in with the other culture? And especially if children are produced from the relationship. Most white women identify their children as white. This is something that is seldom looked at and mixed children end up confused. We choosing other races looking acceptance and we can't even deal With each other
You are illustrating the hard place that we find ourselves in in 2017; stuck between a hard place and a hard place. But when given the choice between not having a chick, and having a chick these bruthas are not going to care about the social implications because the present is now, and the future is a mystery.
@Tyler Trobaugh I completely understand what you're saying but in my experience you always have to be on your guard as one minute they 'seem' alright and trustworthy but then flip out on you!
Personally the sistas are hurting themselves by rejecting brothas based on appearance. Sure they'll never admit it but their actions are doing some serious dry snitching.
I wish I can tell all the brothers in this comment section that I care. Although I've been hurt and cheated on in the past by many of yall lol. I still chose a Black American man, because it just felt right, and we clicked and had some intense chemistry for each other on the first date. Now we're seeing a marriage in the future. Im down for him soo much. This is coming from a foriegn black woman. So I guess I won lol.
Sometimes as men we may not approach the right type of women for us. Speaking for myself the visual was a big part of it. When I was out their I liked clean and we'll kept women, but I went to the clubs for love. I eventually saw myself as a spiritual man, but then again I wasted a lot of my time with imoral people. "Bad association spoils useful habits". I really had to get a good feel for myself to find the right someone for me. No bashing we all have to start being nicer to one another. We will all get ours. We just have to be ready to receive it when it comes knocking.
I agree with you all the way, Black women don’t realize their actions have a lot to do with why a lot of black men are the way they are....And the media don’t make it no better
Your grandmother was very wise. Idk many black men that wouldn't choose a black women over a white one. Black women highly overestimate their value and it's a huge turn off to be rejected especially if she's a 7 or below. A lot of black men have said, "Why Bother?"
For me it’s not even the rejection. I have no problems picking up black women. It’s the “I deserve everything” or “what have you done for me lately” attitude. Can easily check it but who the hell wants to deal with that on a constant basis
I really like this topic, this is my life, every since I was young, i grew up in a mixed neighborhood, ive always been attracted to anyone but black chicks, I never hated them, i just don't date them, some of us don't click with our own people, all of us black men carry ourselves different, raised on different side of the tracks, speak proper, different tastes in music, clothes, etc. , Most black women wouldn't rock with my style, my own thing, but white & Spanish women love me😁😂 , i went where I was wanted, to be honest, 💯 im not into black women at All, ive been friends with a few, dated a couple, but just didn't vibe with them,
What's interesting as a black female that grew up in the suburbs I would get passed up or dissed by bm because I speak correct English, or i would be called an Oreo or square. I'm more of a natural bw who works out and wears my natural hair and don't look like I got ran over by a revlon truck, I would get passed up for shaquanda with the bigger ass and bigger hips. So bw that don't fit into that stereotypical mold get passed up and rejected too so it's not only happening to bm.
you should do a video on it because the same thing happened to me as you know . and no one on black youtube is discussing this. they are not mentioning how foul bm can act when they think you are ugly. and if you don't have a big butt they make fun of you for it.
bronzed curls yes your right. Bm can be just as harsh as they say bw are if not worse. If your hair isn't a certain texture or you don't have these fake exaggerated body parts they are looking at you like you are a alien from outer space. I have seen naturally thin bw get clowned but yet they want to talk about a black female being overweight. Plus I use to get called the black "white" girl because I speak correct English and I'm not loud and ghetto acting. I got called a nerd a square all sorts of things so it goes both ways. Black people have this thing where if your not acting or reacting a certain way you are not considered black enough or considered white washed. I wish I could do a you tube but I'm too shy lol but I know for a fact other bw have experienced this but don't talk about it. But I feel you my dear.sometimes I feel like we can't win with our men and I feel like giving up. I understand them having concerns but they need to make behavior changes as well they are certainly not perfect
+shena crowe correct!! or they wanna do the most if they think you are unattractive. Last week i was on a live stream, and this user in the chat i don't know and never spoke to wanna give his unsolicited opinion and say i a 4 to him . I said ok, now what does that do for you?? did you gain millions of dollars off it or what ?? He never answered. Go look at my comment i left yesterday. I shared my experience on when this started from black men.
bronzed curls yes I understand what you are saying. I get insulted all the time and I don't even have my picture up. The one thing that confuses me with bm is they complain about all these things bw do but they are usually guilty of those same crimes. That's why I don't have my picture up because bm when they have no where to go with their arguments the first thing they will attack is your looks if that doesn't work then they will attack your weight and when all else fails they will attack your age and if that fails then they will throw in all these stats in the black community that you didn't even contribute to then if that doesn't work then they will tell you how no other race wants bw and we are this or that and how we don't compare to other races of women. I've noticed this is a common trend with most of these bm in these comment sections and most of the men commenting don't have gainful employment, have children all over the place, homeless, uneducated and have nothing to offer a female but community penis, an out of wedlock child because most don't want to commit and a bad attitude because it certainly aint no commas their offering. You can't even get good advice from some of these men because their minds are so far gone. Don't worry about it my friend some of these men are angry and want to fight and will take their frustration out on you to make themselves feel better because at home they are a joke and not respected.
I've been able to conversations with Hispanic and white girls easily this year, but the black women be picky. I complimented a black woman to break the ice, and she didn't give me the time of day, and she was single!! Lol and they say WE'RE all the same. Smh, seems like they are too.
Bro not gonna lie .. always thought I was kinda handsome and had my act together and got straight rejected and dissed because I didn’t act, talk and walk like Tupac. Years later when I got $$, assets and credit score in 800s they want to come at you with 3 babies and all worn out. Other girls didn’t treat me like that and even pursued me ! I don’t know what it was but seemed like I was “corny” in my 20s and then called “stuck up” in my 30s
I've heard that from some men. I think you should always at least be nice to someone because that's what I would like. It's had enough in this life. You have a chance daily to make someone smile or frown in their souls.
I used to be urkel. As i transcend into STEFAN these chickenheads dont notice im the same brotha. Different exterior. Some females understand this with the body augmentations and loss of weight. People sweeten up to you real quick once your exterior gets an upgrade. Your like walking value to them.
Out of all the RUclips videos I’ve seen, This is the only video that really really explain the reason why black men date outside there race... REJECTION... some guys where rejected in elementary, middle school and young adults.... REJECTION!!!! Now men gets excepted by other races they are gone!!! This is what black women REALLY need too hear 👂
Wicked video Rom. I dont date black women purely based on the fact that alot them rejected me and treated me like shit when I was younger because I was skinny and short and I talk like a white guy. Like I said before the women I attract are greek or greek cypriot women,turkish or turkish cypriot women,white women with brown/hazel eyes and indian women because they like me for who I am and not trying to change me so that I can live up to the so called black man stereotype. We have the same problems with black women in the UK where I am from and especially in London where I live its a big major problem because all black women want the same type of guy(i.e has to be 6ft plus tall,be super goodlooking,have muscles look like edris elba,michael ealy or jesse williams,be rich or make 6 figures as a minimum,drive a flash car,live in a nice house in a nice area etc) in other words they want a ready made superstar black man,a thug type black man or any type of white guy because them black women want to have pretty kids with mixed race good hair and blue/green eyes so that they can be the envy of their black female friends and the black community in general and I dont have a problem with mixed race relationships because I have been in lots of them myself. When I start dating non black women,black women get fucking mad because they hate to see black man like myself have other dating options but the irony is that these are the same black women who wouldnt give me the time of day when I was in my teenage years/twenties when they was chasing pookie,ray ray,desmonds,and jerome now that these black women become single mothers to multiple bastard kids in their 30s when their good looks are gone when their beauty fades all of the fucking sudden they want that same black guy they rejected years ago plus they want that first right of refusal for that childfree black man when all their dating options and choices have ran out and they fuck their lives up by becoming unwed single mothers. FUCK THAT SHIT I AINT PLAYING NO CAPTAIN SAVE A HOE TO SOME WOMEN AND HER BASTARD KIDS let her rot and live with her bad decisions in life. When I get my life sorted out I am gonna get me a childfree non black women and I dont give a fuck who I offend because I want the best in life and I am not gonna settle for some loser women who wasnt interested in me when I was younger.
Ryanna I am a millennial as I am 35 years as I was born in 1982 the beggining of the the millennial generation. You have got to remember that the UK is part of the western world same as the USA,Canada,Australia,New Zealand. Also I spoke to alot of younger black guys and older black guys who dont date black women and they had similar experiences to me so I dont think its a generational thing its more to do with their personal experiences with the black women that they come into contact with.
Ryanna I totally agree you 100 per cent. You seem like a very smart young black women and you know what you are talking about in regarding the historical differences between black americans and black britains. The good thing is that you did not get offended by my comments like lots of other black women do into the reasons why I dont date black women because I give good reasons and my personal life experience and the truth into why I dont date them but other black women always dismiss my personal experiences like its nothing and they use the( your mamma black shaming tactic) into stopping me dating non black women because they dont us black men to be happy and have other dating options. I never ever had a problem with black women dating non black men as I believe in live and let live example and people should be free to do whatever they want in terms of dating regardless of race and skin colour. My family is very mixed up and thats the reason why I have always been open to dating non black women. We brits are lucky that mixed race relationships in the UK is very normal and much more accepted than it is in the USA where mixed race relationships is a bit more taboo because the slavery situation that and the one drop rule when it comes to mixed race people in which I think ridiculous. I am sorry to hear about your bad experiences with black boys.
Best line @12:40-12:54. This is truth you can't get mad if the guy you rejected doesn't want you later or if he goes to another race. Not to mention they don't have to reject you. You could just be doing you but bw can be rude as hell and that just kills any drive to ask her out. But god bless the nice sistas gotta value them!!
Real talk! Some sisters are just horrible about how they treat people, I've seen it in middle school, high school and in some professional settings. By the time black women actually showed me love, I couldn't fathom it being real. I was thrown off and couldn't handle even being with a black woman at that time. Hell, I've seen/heard dudes that are drug dealers or gang bangers get more love than a college dude or a brother trying to do things the right/legal way. Its a sad state of affairs for everybody because it throws shade on the real sisters that are gracious, polite, physically-fit and intelligent. Nothing would please me more than to marry a black woman and have black children but I also know that its going to be a struggle to find the right woman. That being said, I'd rather be with my own than to venture out again for a woman. Some women have issues but I won't take my issues out on the good sisters who are real and want to really settle down with a legit brother. Sadly, everything you said is truth. We have a long way to go as a people.
You are speaking some sad truths. But what makes your words sink in, is the fact you WANT to have a quality sista to build something with but then get dumped on by them. I've pretty much accepted that at this point, the chances of the mother of my child being a Black American are less than 10%, because mostly all I date is Africans, Asians and mixed chicks...
So on point Rom. I have had Black Women just straight laugh at me because I spoke to them or I have opened a door for a Blackwoman and she didn't even say thank you. It's not that I'm not attracted Blackwomen in as much as I have a problem with how some of them act and lack basic manners!
The reason why many black men don't date black women is because they are to much like us. They wanna be the strongest of us 2 and honest that's not gonna work for me. Every room i enter i have no competition. Especially not from a women.
Sniper 11 N.D. Black guys have told me I intimidate them. But for a weird reason other guys especially English men( I’m African living in England) like my smartness. Apparently being independent at 22 threatens black guys but attracts the white ones? How sway!
Women don't intimidate me so i have no clue what you are talking about. I'm also african leaving in europe and trust me when i tell you i'm not the person to intimate in anyway or shape period.
Sniper 11 N.D. Well that’s what I’ve gotten from the black guys around me. God forbid I talk about my goals to them the next thing they say is I need to pipe down. Pipe down to what? Working minimum wage forever and be a baby mama like the others? Nah! Idk but white guys are just different tbh even their manner of approach but 🤷🏾♀️. The black ones can stay intimidated. I see the money lol!
A black women at work got mad rude when I just looked at her her cousin checked her told her she was out of line she got her act together I told the cousin I appreciate it but I wasn’t bothered and I didn’t want her anyways
On another note, as far as the women who reject a dude that was digging them, and count all the dudes they reject, when they post 30 bragging about all the proposals they turned down, I see these same women become alcoholics, spinsters, or develop some addiction... Black, white, Asian, latin, middle eastern...
man, I just got back from overseas from a month and a half. The game is so much different in places like Brazil or Colombia. The fuckery is nonexistent or at least at a minimum. I hated the fact that I had to come back.
Gonway Tha Prodigy Fuckery is everywhere they just didn't give you attitude because you were a American. which means you have money or at least more than the men in those countries. I'm sure those guys out there get treated like shit also.
Spot on for me. Dogged out and bullied for years for being "white". It hurt enough that i just started to avoid all together but I'm not against dating a black girl if i find her attractive and we click. The clicking part is the issue now since i dont or cant relate to much of the community.
Everything you said in the video is true. I think one thing that might have also contributed to this is them saying out loud they want a good man yet still date the ones who use and abuse them. All races of women do this at some point in their lives, but they don't yell loud and proud that they need good men. It's like you say one thing but desire the opposite till your 38 and starting to hit the wall. Yes, other women do it also, but they don't go in public and say their men ain't shit yet still date ain't shit men. It's like they love the victim narrative . This isn't all black women. In fact 95% of the ones I'm social with are married with children. But that 1984 double speak shot is killing them . Either you want to deal with the ones who treat you wrong or you dont. Playing victim for bad choices is no longer gonna get you a pass. Saying you want one thing but desiring the opposite is counter productive
Lol I've been put down for no particular reason by black women before. I wasn't even trying to holler at any of these women. Just minding my own business, crazy mofo's started dissing me smh
Uncle Rom, again, is hitting the target! I can't even count the amount if rejection I've received in high school and college from black women Conversely, I can measure the amount of cooperation I received from white and Asian women.... The support system alone is reason enough to recommend interracial dating to young brothers. Black men need love too. I watched that woman's video. I, too, would have commented, but I'm guessing a few brothers hit her with some straight facts and she didn't want to hear it.
One of the chapters of your book Nice Guys and Players was like a refresher course for me. Letting them choose is a major principle for me. As for the sistahs complaining about not finding a good man. Well...if their relationship resume isn't that impressive, what do they expect?
Great vid Rom! I viewed the vid Rom is responding to (the vlogger is a 28 year old bw who isn't in great shape who resides in LA). I spent a week in Southern California. You can trip over an all natural 7, 8, or 9 at any given moment. The best looking women are located where there's power, money, status/fame, and good weather (Southern California, Miami, NYC, DMV, and Chicago). In other words, women who don't present their best. Can't realistically compete! The vlogger's other issue is that she expressed she hangs out with her SINGLE friends. The reality is the best looking and most feminine women are acquired before their late 20s! Granted, the ones who bought into feminism or the "strong & independent" rhetoric. Are acquired in their 30s! The majority of divorces occur when the couples married in their early 20s and when the women are 33+ years. Also factor in the fact that 60%-70% of divorces are initiated by women. And we're in the era of women's sexual liberation. What would wise, smart, and men of means/options do?
soooo who are supposed to hang out with? have you ever heard of the shit friends in relationships or are married do? once a female is taken that's it. the friendships become a hi and bye status. till she single again... you men do not do that but women do.
bronzed curls When my sisters and I were kids. My father would tell us that we'd be lucky to have 5 true friends in our lifetime. In other words, you should be focusing on your health, passion/goals, and improving your skills. That will determine the type/quality of people you attract and allow into your life. It's female nature to nest. Once she has a partner and especially when she has a child. She naturally focuses more on protecting and expanding her nest. Females are very selfish beings! Also, a girlfriend or wife who acts single will eventually be single again, cheated on, or neglected. A healthy masculine man won't tolerate that. He also won't tolerate his mate's friends who can/will jeopardize his mission, goals, and relationship.
4 BROTHERS ON THEIR GAME, HAVING A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SELF-UNDERSTANDING AND FINANCIALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT SHOULDN'T EVEN SWEAT THIS SHIT!!! NATURE NOT WOMEN ALWAYS HAS THE LAST LAUGH!!!
At the end of her video she briefly mentioned the crux of her problem. She said she didn't want to lower her standards. Water was finding its own level and she didn't like it.
Sup Don! I was one of those who commented on that broad's video before she wiped the comment section. However, it's too bad that black broads don't want (black) men to have a voice. When the roles are reversed we just don't tune in. Ultimately, I think that BGS IBMOR's treatise, _The Unified Theory of Black Male and Female Relationships_ applies.
doncalypso of course they have a great disdain for black men here in L.A. because the wall of silence is real! I never talked to a black woman out here, even if they are fine. In fact I dismiss them because I don't want to deal with the b.s. plus we can date Latinas, white girls and Asians fairly easily so what would you pick? LOL
If you holler at enough women you will get rejected a percentage of the time just because a woman might be in a relationship or just might not find your particular look attractive or something along those lines, but sadly there’s a higher chance of being rejected harshly by a black woman. My harshest rejections have been by black women and it’s not even close lol. And this is from a guy who never had problems with attracting women of all colors
Thumbs up, but for me it wasn’t an issue of rejection, I never had a problem attracting black women.. I just always liked what I like, that exotic look, Arab/Persian, middle eastern women.. I’m with a shorty from North Africa now and from the femininity, holding on to her virginity, soft spoken, classy, works out, makes great money, respects the masculine principle, I couldn’t ask for much more! Unfortunately a lot of the “sisters” I’ve come across are just the total opposite. I’m not saying they’re all like that, but I live in NYC and just walking on the streets of Manhattan or Brooklyn, not much changes, maybe the Midwest or the south it’s better but I don’t care to find out at this point lol
I haven’t heard of you, but I’m happy to know what you are doing. I will certainly take a look at your site. I humbly suggest that you encourage the men that you work with to lessen or stop the criticism and complaining and examine why they are attracting negative women. We all attract what we ARE and not what we want. It’s time for the healing to begin.
Maybe we need to deal with WHY they are behaving the way they do. People want Black Men to stop certain behaviors without asking how they got that way.
Rom Wills I so agree with you, which is essentially, the same thing I am trying to say. According to the men I have talked to, some of the reasons have to do with a poor relationship with their Mothers or other Black authority figures, or they are angry/ hurt about the many negative experiences they’ve had with Black women. Black men have a right to be angry about these things. It becomes problematic when the relentless criticism and bashing goes on, without any kind of resolution and men choose to displace their anger and resentment on sometimes, undeserving women who have nothing to do with their past experiences. I always want to be a part of the solution and not the problem. Yes, there are some treacherous, trifling Black women out there, but there are also some sincere, soft and kind ones out there too. (I’m willing to admit, not that many), but they DO exist. We’re being lumped together with the undesirables, which is unfortunate.
The thing about that is not just the personal rejection but the side rejection. The side rejections is seeing a friend or fellow black man get rejected hard for saying hello. With the usual attitude, eye roll or/and loud rude retort. He is wasn't rude or anything. That right there makes men not want to approach or date them. Smh.
That's the problem. I have told women if you have to reject a man be polite. Even if they say they are simply not interested it can still be said politely. Men can handle that.
The grass isn't greener on the other side, it's greenest where it's watered. Its funny to me how so many sisters complain about lack of quality brothers, yet those same brothers have no issues getting with commensurate women of other races. Many brothers don't approach sisters nowadays as a result of and a response to the collective attitdues and actions of black women. In simpler terms, the good black women are seen as guilty by association .
I go where I'm wanted and appreciated. If I'm trying to talk to Latoya and she's not giving me the time of day, but Becca is willing and ready then guess where the path of least resistance is at? I love my beautiful chocolate ladies it's just separating the classy ones from the ratchets.
Some women called you ugly? Wonder what they call the REAL ugly guys? Gargoyles?😂 For me, I never really approached black women as far as I can remember. I grew up in the hood around ratchet females and they turned me off to black women as a result. I do find some of them attractive but the attitude is too much for me. I always took it too that I wasn't attractive enough for them anyways. I'm 5'7 with average looks. One of my older brothers who's the same height, has a lighter complexion (had a different father), used to get rejected by black women often. He was angry quite often because of it and he mostly blamed it on the west coast atmosphere. He moved down south to Atlanta after a few bad relationships and he got more attention from black women. He was around the same age I'm at now in my mid 30's. I haved noticed that older black women are attracted to me. Maybe because they ran through the wall and want a young man now. Regardless, I know I'm not on most black women's radar so I go to where I can get noticed. Black women are pretty but so are other women also. I've always had a thing for white and latina women. More friendlier and feminine for the most part. Thank you Rom for your knowledge and insight!
You're exactly right. Sistas that disagree with this message are not being honest or reasonable. They might be Butt Hurt by it, but they really need to grow up some more and listen. Great Commentary.
Its crazy how when you hit the gym and get all fit and looking good. The women that never gave you the time of day now all of a sudden wanna come flocking to you. Thats the shit i hate.
Let's take imprinting to the next level: Mothers. A lot of black mothers don't realize that they are their son's first impression of black women. If they're on precious, or have a bad attitude and mean muggin all the time, what are they telling their sons about bw?
Men are pretty simple.. If a woman is giving me attitude and I'm a total stranger, just imagine how she would be in a relationship..
Good points.
w.smith I do NOT want to be.
It doesn't matter how educated a BW is. If she's urban and/or was raised by a single-mother, she'll either go for stereotypical urban black males or non-BM. BM that do not fit the stereotype are anathema to 99.9% of American BW.
The only time their tastes change is when they've popped out a few kids and/or they're older and past their prime. The non-select brother, who became select after years of hard work and has grown in confidence and self-esteem, will not touch these women. It's an insult to have a woman you wanted years ago approach you, asking you to save them. You don't get to enjoy them in their prime; you get the leftovers, and you are supposed to be happy about it...
We forgive, but we do not forget.
Truth.
What about the women that go through the same thing, we get rejected. Then years later when we looking different from our high school days the same guys that wanted the pretty girls in school step to us the same way.
@@Tyrah1120 no yall don't yall didnt get the black dude u want. We couldn't get a black women period
The chickens are literally coming home to roost on several fronts for black women.
Truth.
by Kevin Samuels I couldn't agree more. I got my popcorn and my front row seat...time to enjoy the show. I don't forgive, I repay.
What other fronts? I'm curious.
Believe that
Hey bro where are you at?
A good friend always say to me go fishing where the fish are biting your bait.
That's a great quote.
That's a smart friend.
artbunker. Good advice.
You got a wise friend.
Good friend. Black women, gotta love em, but they are so so quick to brutally bash and reject any black many checking for them for superficial reasons, when a majority of them are at his level or lower.
For me Rom as a guy who approached a lot of women(black women included) . It wasn't the rejection itself but how they did it just like you mentioned.
A polite rejection is acceptable. It is what it is. I can respect those.
Probably has a lot to do with deflection. People sometimes project their feelings about themselves unto others. And quite as it is kept, a lot Black folks have deep seeded emotional deficiencies living in America in general or specific to their upbringing. A lot of the sistas are jaded, and we can acknowledge that. But we are in a information/efficiency age and nobody is waiting around for anyone empathy or not.
hmm
I agree, being rejected or turned downed is not that bad, it's part of life. But too many bw will visicously humiliate a brother just from a simple hello or attempt to have a short conversation.
Black women in large part make you want to snap their neck the way they belittle you in rejection. I don't even try anymore.
Like... they have 100 reasons why we are not enough but we are supposed like pick them because our momma black smh
It's hypocritical.
LOL, where have I heard that before?
Marti how have you NOT heard the "yo mama black" response?!?!?
Im supposed to be pick black women because my mother is black? lol thats some weird shit brotha
Lmfaooo yes bro. Its like they critique you for having your own preferences and your own opinions about things. No wonder why we're behind.
Mike Jones said it best: "Back then they didn't want me, now I'm hot, they're all on me."
Truth.
It is what it is...LOL.... My "Masked Man" anthem...LOL.... ruclips.net/video/1hzKed0m7zQ/видео.html
Facts!
I had a white gf when I was 19, she was actually my first experience. Then I began dating black females exclusively until I turned 35. I really got tired of dating non appreciative BAW. So, I began dating Dominican women.
Ultimately, I fell in love with a Filipina who is now my fiancée . I wanted a woman who believed in traditional values on marriage. I think feminism has made it virtually impossible to find a black woman who will be submissive to her man.
Glad you found happiness.
she's cute.
So many content creators are talking about the topics in this video hot and heavy today, here you were talkin about this 5 years ago.
Tyler Perry has built a profitable business just off the theme 'Black Man Ain't Shit"
Jiril Clemons This message was pounded into us for a long time. It does mess with your psyche when you are a younger. I am not going to let my son be hurt by it.
It's a big industry.
TP followed Oprah
Jiril Clemons lmao!!
NegroDeSangue nope, don’t forget tyler perry’s temptation where the woman cheated and later seen him moved on with another woman and child. Also tyler perry’s family that preys where the bw was cheating with the mother’s friend’s son.
Chicks like her don’t really like your average black guy . She already has reasons to write you off . She’s just mad because she’s losing to other women. That’s all!
That's real talk. I have a video coming to address that issue.
Auto Chris
It gets really annoying
Rom Wills let me know. I'm interested in that one.
LiveYOURLIFE if the average black woman is self entitled, loud, obnoxious & manly then what do yo expect? If you gone sit up here & say this video & the things that are being said arent true then you delusional.
Boy am I glad I'm awake. I understand where you brothas are coming from. And this is coming from a foreign black woman who's a daddy's girl lol.... My dad trained me well indeed. My African American Man is a witness to that lol. Made him fall in love with me, and treating him like the king he is. Supporting him, reminding him how much I appreciate him, cooking for him. I respect his commitment to working hard. But one thing I always said even to God that I would never do is DISRESPECT HIM!... so not all black women is bad.
"Black girls didnt want me till the white girl said something" 😔
That's real in too many cases.
@YoungKing Carter A man after my own heart- salut!
@@melg.7665 If he's good enuff for her then dammit he's a prize for me. The white girl had unknowingly vouched for you.
In fact some crafty select brothers befriend non-Black women to party,shop, travel with in order to attract Black women. 😌
That's fucked up bruh
@@demetriusarmstrong5154 How?
Being a black man is hard in this world. You never see these very same black women turn down a white man as harshly as they do to black men.
I've never seen that myself.
Gedeon Kunduba - Facts.
That’s why I don’t waste my time with black women. Been on this wave since highschool lol
They’re trashy bro. Even when white woman turn us down it’s not harsh or disrespectful, but a black chick always wants to hurt your ego… hella masculine energy
@@marcus7990 i dont bother approaching or even looking at them because of it lmao
Dennis Rodman, was heavily rejected by black women in his neighborhood. When he got to the NBA those same women who rejected would always be hanging around his mother home, always asking how he was doing.
That's crazy.
never knew that
Go where you are wanted. And appreciated.
Correct.
@Miss Roberts Lmao, you had to make a fake account just to spread tour stupidity on black people's videos. You trolls are so pathetic, lol.
soul sessions tv Bdhrh It could also be because her husband is a billionaire.
@Traci AM if you don't care why comment?
Exactly lol
Go to a club or bar on a Friday or Saturday night:
Which "type" of women do you see sitting down with frowns on their faces? Which "type" do you see actually having a fun time on the dance floor (hint: even if their rhythm is a little off, lol)?
We know the answer.
You are speaking truth. Alan Currie posted a good article over on negromansophere.com:
negromanosphere.com/80-20-rule-theory-become-pronounced-21st-century/
We are living in that hypergamous moment, and women will have to pay the cost for their preferences. So, they reject and humiliate good dudes; who are actually more upstanding then them, but might not meet a basic check list item, etc. Well, they will have to accept those dudes seeking happiness elsewhere and enjoy the 'harem life' because don't be fooled, those women will be sharing a man with for the foreseeable future. Their choice...
"Even if their rhythm is a little off" I'm dead 💀
Which group of women are happier?
White women...yes!!!!!
This has been the topic of discussion in my barbershop for the past year or so and the general consensus is as you’ve stated...men want to be celebrated not tolerated and in some cases, kindness can overcompensate for a lack of body structure. Great video RW✊🏿
The streets are talking.
The loud, ratchet colored women outnumber the feminine, kind colored women by a long shot. Its really messed up man....
Truth.
Kenni Mac And the feminine, kind ones relate to the loud ratchet ones. If you’re not like those women, then why do you associate yourselves with them?
I don’t...
@@RomWills You sound really insecure and hateful . some women react in a certain way when approached by black men because of bad experiences that they have had
I've seen it myself how some sistas would viciously reject a "black" man, and I would just look at the chick like Damn Daniel! You ain't gotta be like that. He's just saying hi. 😏
That's the only thing. Rejections don't have to be mean. I've known women who could reject a man and he would walk away smiling.
I get white girls so easily but when it comes to black girls it's a struggle for some reason
Chris UK you are not alone. I seem to be able to hold conversations better as well. Even with their 7s and 8s
artbunker
Foreign woman as well
I have noticed the same thing. The white girls will approach you and make their intentions much more transparent. I still prefer black women.
Many feel that.
Yep. Non-Black women are different and almost excited that you are even speaking with them a lot of times. If you took away the anti-Black male propaganda of the MSM, angry Black women and envious white men, Black men would dominate the dating market in America, period.
So true, they do reject black men all the time. Their standards are so high against black men. But black males can find a value women with less chance of rejection in different nations.
I just hit my thirties and realize that I need not approach any woman. Rather, I don't speak until spoken to, and I keep my interactions with them very short. I ignore them and they flock to me like white on rice on a paper plate in a snow storm.
That's how that works.
They don't need a man, that's why.
LOL!
I said hey to a black chick the other day and she got a attitude and i was simply speaking.
It's bad when a man can't hust say hi.
SupremeVision - That's really sad because non-black men can say any disrespectful thing to black women and get a positive response.
curving a guy is a notch on the belt for bw. I tried to talk to a girl at a drive thru window, all i asked was her name and she rudely shut me down. Im good on bw.
Its interesting to read some of the comments in this thread. I'm a brutha that would be considered professional and slightly bookish, average height, athletic build, dark skinned; but the feed back I get from Black American women is positive even though I never approach them. Back in high school, they thought I was too dark skinned, etc. But as an adult Im always getting choosing signals from sistas, they tend to be real sexually aggressive; damn near masculine in their thirst. A year ago I was at a McDonalds drive thru and this caramel skin sista was working, about a 6.5 but with a real banging body, and some huuuuge tits. I said something slick to her just joking around, and broad said to me, " I get off at 7." But I was actually going to pick up my gf from work. So, what I think many are making clear, while the rest of society is now transforming into a 80/20 dating market; Black America has been a 80/20 dating marking since the late 1990s for sure...
I understand.
Trust me you try that with "Becky" you might get a different result
#justsaynotoglueheads
As a Latin Male . I️ too sense the disturbance in the force
LOL!
Good video. You addressed a lot of key points in a very fair way.
I saw her video and my take was that although it came from a genuine place, I think that she wasn't willing to examine the whole problem. Several times she tacitly touched on the "attitude" aspect that men complain about, but it was obvious that she had already mentally framed 'attitude' to mean: "standing up for herself", "Holding men accountable", "Men wanting to get away with something".
This is one of the reasons that these kinds of relationship discussions never make progress, a lot of black women don't want to hear any reason that doesn't reflect negatively on black men or might require them to look inward. So long as that aspect of the discussion is already taken off of the table, any questions about why black men aren't dating them is pointless.
That's why I stopped sitting on relationship panels. Many women didn't want to hear what the brothas had to say.
People, in this case women and black in particular, will show you where you stand with them.
this is profoundly stated!
Listen women have no clue how far i will go to be the best. It's not about them. Trust me on that.
Never thought about it like that. I actually took a step back from dating and started peeping a behavior pattern I didn't like. And that's why I'm very choosey on the sistas I dig. A lot of black women act like white men(if you get what I'm sayin) when it comes to black men.
School Shiiit
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 taking that step back, will keep u alive. read the body language of all the woman u deal with not just the wrds out of their mouth
Sometimes you have to step back.
Body language is a lost art, and could save a lot of men grief; but too many of us have been 'digitized'...
Bruh, this is facts. The type of sistas you mention, have a high bar standard for Black men, and a low bar standard for white men. That's why many bruthas are voting with their feet and dollars, and ignoring arguing with bed wench types.
John R * price discrimination
Str8 👆, Rom! I learned, in this GAME, that you must put your happiness FIRST. If a non black woman is making you happy, then so be it. People, especially black folks, think someone OWES them something...😥😥😥
Truth.
I have a strong preference for black women, Latina women second. But as I grow in age and wisdom, the path of least resistance appeals to me.
I understand.
To the women that’s listening to Uncle Rom! Listen, Learn, and have a solid take away from what’s being said by Uncle Rom and Brothers in the comment section. There is no mass collusion going on. Brothers are experiencing similar if not identical interactions with you.
GTharo McScrooge if they were listening we would not still be making these videos
That's the thing. That what I'm saying is co-signed speaks volumes.
im listening and been taking notes where i needed to since 2016. but this doesn't apply to me since i just reject with a no thank you or i have to go .
Makes a lot of sense Rom. Ladies, those guys who you think are too short, a lil too nerdy or aint got that much swag are the ones who will be HUSBAND MATERIAL. Kinda makes you wonder... Some black women who Known and been around black men their WHOLE LIFE and complain saying "I can't find a good black man".
Meanwhile, a white or Asian woman will find and end up with a GOOD BLACK MAN BY ACCIDENT LOL... I wonder why😱😱
Too many Black women are focused on a small group of men.
Good Point.... To me, its like the difference between deciding to feed a tiger, which is primal brain dominant and then attempting to pet it vs. deciding to feed a golden labrador retriever. Even though the tiger is more exotic and beautiful, it's more likely to kill you. When you feed the golden lab, he may cuddle with you and lick your face. After trying your best to win the tiger's honor towards you and almost dying in the process, you finally realize that it's not worth it and start exclusively feeding that golden lab.
With that analogy, you might have to consider that within America, sometimes the most desirable mate is that 'golden lab' because the dating pool is filled with hyenas and jackals...
Good analogy.
J R LOL😃
This is #1. Reason a lot of black men jump the fence. It doesn't mean they hate black women at all. They "get in where they fit in".
Black women can't have it both ways. In one breathe say "black men ain't shit ", or "there are no good black men". But in the next breath , scream "sellout" or "you dont like your momma".
Expecting black men to stay is like trying to pet a dog that keeps trying to bite you
*BOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!* Sistas need to realize that.
The reason I stopped dating black women is because they do everything in their abilities to tear a decent dude down! I'm physically attracted to black women. But, mentally, I'm not. Black women do everything to make a guy feel unwanted. People might call me a sellout(like I give a dam..) But, I took the route to dating women of other races. I'm not saying that they are perfect, but the girl I'm with does make me feel wanted.
Don't feel bad brotha. I'm in a similar situation. She's 9 years older than me, she's British, and yes it's a long distance relationship. Me Living here in NY, I've experienced rejection in the worst way by black women. Like you, I physically love black women, but mentally and in other categories, They are NOT qualified. Being that it's a long distance relationship, I wouldn't recommend it to most people. But I'm happy, and I'm finally at peace with my life and a Lady ✌🏿
and black women wonder why they get played so much, smh.
Karma.
Great topic. A lot of Black women up until 35, don't consider the fact that we are all in a competitive free dating market. Typically a mans value is rising when a woman's is sinking as far as sexual market value.
Too many sistas believe they have ownership of Black men, so rather than consider the competition and tailor their behavior to that reality; they believe that shaming men by using 'your mama is black' or other ad hominem attacks will keep Black men from seeking happiness somewhere else. Rom didn't go in-depth about non-Black women being in that gym focusing on ass and thighs these days. I'm in the Midwest so it is probably more pronounced here.These women are in compete mode, I met a bikini model competitor the other day in the gym, but I prefer my Black and African sistas. Still, I can't deny the broad was choosing heavily and she was a 8 with a 9 body. We are all competing, be considerate...
Real talk.
I rarely approach women. In fact maybe only 5 percent of the women I've dealt with I approach. Since i'm real introverted most women believe "he's too shy to ever to approach me so I better get over there and let him know what's up " and It probably cuts down my numbers in comparison to extraverted guy but I don't got time to deal with attitudes my reactions to bad attitude isn't the best yet.
That's what's up.
Exactly..facts! I'm 56 and I can remember almost every rejection, you don't forget em
I will never give up on black women. Some can certainly be hard to deal with in the beginning but when she loves you, she loves you.
AtlantaGeorgia404 that’s any race of women, I even see it in public
AtlantaGeorgia404 I can agree, it's separating the classy ones from the ratchets
I understand. Many brotha feel the same way.
AtlantaGeorgia404 If you confide in the behaviour of them being rude to you in the beginning in hopes of them loving you later then you are a simp. You should never date a woman who is rude or stuck up period.
@Gedeon Kunduba - Thank you for your comment and you are correct. One must know the difference between a woman that is putting up a defense mechanism versus a genuine bad attitude. There are things you can say and conversations you can have to determine the difference and it doesn’t take long. I’ve seen how some guys approach these women and honestly it can be quite disrespectful. And some guys, especially MGTOW understudies, approach these women straightaway expecting them to be rude. If you put that energy out there, it will come back to you. I personally won’t keep trying to get at a woman that is disrespectful, materialistic, or shallow.
This was one of your best videos.
Thank you.
Rom is so spot on here. I’ve lived what he’s talking about. I (unfortunately) had to cross Black American (born and raised) women of my list a loooong time ago. Black Women from Africa, Latin America, Caribbean, SE and Pacific Asia, and Europe, have been great! Not perfect of course, but a different reception. It ain’t the skin color but the American acculturation and the attitude that work against Black American women, and it’s a shame.
Nice video, I can relate because I was a nerd, not dark enough, corny, lame, no swag, rejected all all over the place. Other women are becoming more attractive.
Go where you are celebrated.
They’ve always been more attractive lol
@@Jedilord882 No, that's not true; 40 years of mental brainwashing and removing Black men from their families and elevating women over their men for careers. I remember a few decades ago when attractive fit Black women could easily upset a room full of other women without even trying. Now too many are fighting against appealing to Black men.
Brothers may choose a woman of a different race but what's not being looked at is the cultural aspect especially if you're looking at a long term relationship or marriage. How will the black man fit in with the other culture? And especially if children are produced from the relationship. Most white women identify their children as white. This is something that is seldom looked at and mixed children end up confused. We choosing other races looking acceptance and we can't even deal With each other
Yes, it is a trade off of interacial dating. There are social implications.
You are illustrating the hard place that we find ourselves in in 2017; stuck between a hard place and a hard place. But when given the choice between not having a chick, and having a chick these bruthas are not going to care about the social implications because the present is now, and the future is a mystery.
Seen.
John R gotcha
@Tyler Trobaugh I completely understand what you're saying but in my experience you always have to be on your guard as one minute they 'seem' alright and trustworthy but then flip out on you!
Personally the sistas are hurting themselves by rejecting brothas based on appearance. Sure they'll never admit it but their actions are doing some serious dry snitching.
Truth.
I wish I can tell all the brothers in this comment section that I care. Although I've been hurt and cheated on in the past by many of yall lol. I still chose a Black American man, because it just felt right, and we clicked and had some intense chemistry for each other on the first date. Now we're seeing a marriage in the future. Im down for him soo much. This is coming from a foriegn black woman. So I guess I won lol.
Sometimes as men we may not approach the right type of women for us. Speaking for myself the visual was a big part of it. When I was out their I liked clean and we'll kept women, but I went to the clubs for love. I eventually saw myself as a spiritual man, but then again I wasted a lot of my time with imoral people. "Bad association spoils useful habits". I really had to get a good feel for myself to find the right someone for me. No bashing we all have to start being nicer to one another. We will all get ours. We just have to be ready to receive it when it comes knocking.
I agree with you all the way, Black women don’t realize their actions have a lot to do with why a lot of black men are the way they are....And the media don’t make it no better
Exactly.
Your grandmother was very wise. Idk many black men that wouldn't choose a black women over a white one. Black women highly overestimate their value and it's a huge turn off to be rejected especially if she's a 7 or below. A lot of black men have said, "Why Bother?"
Truth
That's what many brothas are saying.
For me it’s not even the rejection. I have no problems picking up black women. It’s the “I deserve everything” or “what have you done for me lately” attitude. Can easily check it but who the hell wants to deal with that on a constant basis
I really like this topic, this is my life, every since I was young, i grew up in a mixed neighborhood, ive always been attracted to anyone but black chicks, I never hated them, i just don't date them, some of us don't click with our own people, all of us black men carry ourselves different, raised on different side of the tracks, speak proper, different tastes in music, clothes, etc. , Most black women wouldn't rock with my style, my own thing, but white & Spanish women love me😁😂 , i went where I was wanted, to be honest, 💯 im not into black women at All, ive been friends with a few, dated a couple, but just didn't vibe with them,
What's interesting as a black female that grew up in the suburbs I would get passed up or dissed by bm because I speak correct English, or i would be called an Oreo or square. I'm more of a natural bw who works out and wears my natural hair and don't look like I got ran over by a revlon truck, I would get passed up for shaquanda with the bigger ass and bigger hips. So bw that don't fit into that stereotypical mold get passed up and rejected too so it's not only happening to bm.
That's a separate subject though.
you should do a video on it because the same thing happened to me as you know . and no one on black youtube is discussing this. they are not mentioning how foul bm can act when they think you are ugly. and if you don't have a big butt they make fun of you for it.
bronzed curls yes your right. Bm can be just as harsh as they say bw are if not worse. If your hair isn't a certain texture or you don't have these fake exaggerated body parts they are looking at you like you are a alien from outer space. I have seen naturally thin bw get clowned but yet they want to talk about a black female being overweight. Plus I use to get called the black "white" girl because I speak correct English and I'm not loud and ghetto acting. I got called a nerd a square all sorts of things so it goes both ways. Black people have this thing where if your not acting or reacting a certain way you are not considered black enough or considered white washed. I wish I could do a you tube but I'm too shy lol but I know for a fact other bw have experienced this but don't talk about it. But I feel you my dear.sometimes I feel like we can't win with our men and I feel like giving up. I understand them having concerns but they need to make behavior changes as well they are certainly not perfect
+shena crowe correct!! or they wanna do the most if they think you are unattractive. Last week i was on a live stream, and this user in the chat i don't know and never spoke to wanna give his unsolicited opinion and say i a 4 to him . I said ok, now what does that do for you?? did you gain millions of dollars off it or what ?? He never answered. Go look at my comment i left yesterday. I shared my experience on when this started from black men.
bronzed curls yes I understand what you are saying. I get insulted all the time and I don't even have my picture up. The one thing that confuses me with bm is they complain about all these things bw do but they are usually guilty of those same crimes. That's why I don't have my picture up because bm when they have no where to go with their arguments the first thing they will attack is your looks if that doesn't work then they will attack your weight and when all else fails they will attack your age and if that fails then they will throw in all these stats in the black community that you didn't even contribute to then if that doesn't work then they will tell you how no other race wants bw and we are this or that and how we don't compare to other races of women. I've noticed this is a common trend with most of these bm in these comment sections and most of the men commenting don't have gainful employment, have children all over the place, homeless, uneducated and have nothing to offer a female but community penis, an out of wedlock child because most don't want to commit and a bad attitude because it certainly aint no commas their offering. You can't even get good advice from some of these men because their minds are so far gone. Don't worry about it my friend some of these men are angry and want to fight and will take their frustration out on you to make themselves feel better because at home they are a joke and not respected.
I've been able to conversations with Hispanic and white girls easily this year, but the black women be picky. I complimented a black woman to break the ice, and she didn't give me the time of day, and she was single!! Lol and they say WE'RE all the same. Smh, seems like they are too.
Many say the same thing.
You can't even walk down the street and say how yo day going to most black women without them having an attitude if u dont look up to part
Bro not gonna lie .. always thought I was kinda handsome and had my act together and got straight rejected and dissed because I didn’t act, talk and walk like Tupac. Years later when I got $$, assets and credit score in 800s they want to come at you with 3 babies and all worn out. Other girls didn’t treat me like that and even pursued me ! I don’t know what it was but seemed like I was “corny” in my 20s and then called “stuck up” in my 30s
Speak on it. Common problem.
I've heard that from some men. I think you should always at least be nice to someone because that's what I would like. It's had enough in this life. You have a chance daily to make someone smile or frown in their souls.
I feel you.
Good video! I can relate.
Thank you.
I used to be urkel. As i transcend into STEFAN these chickenheads dont notice im the same brotha. Different exterior. Some females understand this with the body augmentations and loss of weight. People sweeten up to you real quick once your exterior gets an upgrade. Your like walking value to them.
True.
Out of all the RUclips videos I’ve seen, This is the only video that really really explain the reason why black men date outside there race... REJECTION... some guys where rejected in elementary, middle school and young adults....
REJECTION!!!!
Now men gets excepted by other races they are gone!!!
This is what black women REALLY need too hear 👂
Facts this been most of my story only time I seen black women interested in me that's if I had something r something going on n not for me who as I am
Wicked video Rom. I dont date black women purely based on the fact that alot them rejected me and treated me like shit when I was younger because I was skinny and short and I talk like a white guy. Like I said before the women I attract are greek or greek cypriot women,turkish or turkish cypriot women,white women with brown/hazel eyes and indian women because they like me for who I am and not trying to change me so that I can live up to the so called black man stereotype. We have the same problems with black women in the UK where I am from and especially in London where I live its a big major problem because all black women want the same type of guy(i.e has to be 6ft plus tall,be super goodlooking,have muscles look like edris elba,michael ealy or jesse williams,be rich or make 6 figures as a minimum,drive a flash car,live in a nice house in a nice area etc) in other words they want a ready made superstar black man,a thug type black man or any type of white guy because them black women want to have pretty kids with mixed race good hair and blue/green eyes so that they can be the envy of their black female friends and the black community in general and I dont have a problem with mixed race relationships because I have been in lots of them myself. When I start dating non black women,black women get fucking mad because they hate to see black man like myself have other dating options but the irony is that these are the same black women who wouldnt give me the time of day when I was in my teenage years/twenties when they was chasing pookie,ray ray,desmonds,and jerome now that these black women become single mothers to multiple bastard kids in their 30s when their good looks are gone when their beauty fades all of the fucking sudden they want that same black guy they rejected years ago plus they want that first right of refusal for that childfree black man when all their dating options and choices have ran out and they fuck their lives up by becoming unwed single mothers. FUCK THAT SHIT I AINT PLAYING NO CAPTAIN SAVE A HOE TO SOME WOMEN AND HER BASTARD KIDS let her rot and live with her bad decisions in life. When I get my life sorted out I am gonna get me a childfree non black women and I dont give a fuck who I offend because I want the best in life and I am not gonna settle for some loser women who wasnt interested in me when I was younger.
I understand where you are coming from.
Ryanna I am a millennial as I am 35 years as I was born in 1982 the beggining of the the millennial generation. You have got to remember that the UK is part of the western world same as the USA,Canada,Australia,New Zealand. Also I spoke to alot of younger black guys and older black guys who dont date black women and they had similar experiences to me so I dont think its a generational thing its more to do with their personal experiences with the black women that they come into contact with.
Ryanna I totally agree you 100 per cent. You seem like a very smart young black women and you know what you are talking about in regarding the historical differences between black americans and black britains. The good thing is that you did not get offended by my comments like lots of other black women do into the reasons why I dont date black women because I give good reasons and my personal life experience and the truth into why I dont date them but other black women always dismiss my personal experiences like its nothing and they use the( your mamma black shaming tactic) into stopping me dating non black women because they dont us black men to be happy and have other dating options. I never ever had a problem with black women dating non black men as I believe in live and let live example and people should be free to do whatever they want in terms of dating regardless of race and skin colour. My family is very mixed up and thats the reason why I have always been open to dating non black women. We brits are lucky that mixed race relationships in the UK is very normal and much more accepted than it is in the USA where mixed race relationships is a bit more taboo because the slavery situation that and the one drop rule when it comes to mixed race people in which I think ridiculous. I am sorry to hear about your bad experiences with black boys.
i love black british men!! i saw so many attractive guys in the summer there.
Thank you bronzed curls. I did not realize that we had fans.
I only see BLACK WOMEN as my sister ONLY....i respect them...but I don't want to be intimate with them
Best line @12:40-12:54. This is truth you can't get mad if the guy you rejected doesn't want you later or if he goes to another race. Not to mention they don't have to reject you. You could just be doing you but bw can be rude as hell and that just kills any drive to ask her out. But god bless the nice sistas gotta value them!!
That's why I say show the sensible sistas some love.
Real talk! Some sisters are just horrible about how they treat people, I've seen it in middle school, high school and in some professional settings. By the time black women actually showed me love, I couldn't fathom it being real. I was thrown off and couldn't handle even being with a black woman at that time. Hell, I've seen/heard dudes that are drug dealers or gang bangers get more love than a college dude or a brother trying to do things the right/legal way. Its a sad state of affairs for everybody because it throws shade on the real sisters that are gracious, polite, physically-fit and intelligent. Nothing would please me more than to marry a black woman and have black children but I also know that its going to be a struggle to find the right woman. That being said, I'd rather be with my own than to venture out again for a woman. Some women have issues but I won't take my issues out on the good sisters who are real and want to really settle down with a legit brother. Sadly, everything you said is truth. We have a long way to go as a people.
You are speaking some sad truths. But what makes your words sink in, is the fact you WANT to have a quality sista to build something with but then get dumped on by them. I've pretty much accepted that at this point, the chances of the mother of my child being a Black American are less than 10%, because mostly all I date is Africans, Asians and mixed chicks...
It is a sad state of affairs.
Damn Ron you always telling the hard truth smh.
I do what I do.
So on point Rom. I have had Black Women just straight laugh at me because I spoke to them or I have opened a door for a Blackwoman and she didn't even say thank you. It's not that I'm not attracted Blackwomen in as much as I have a problem with how some of them act and lack basic manners!
Rudeness is unnecessary from from women.
The reason why many black men don't date black women is because they are to much like us. They wanna be the strongest of us 2 and honest that's not gonna work for me. Every room i enter i have no competition. Especially not from a women.
Sniper 11 N.D. Black guys have told me I intimidate them. But for a weird reason other guys especially English men( I’m African living in England) like my smartness. Apparently being independent at 22 threatens black guys but attracts the white ones? How sway!
Women don't intimidate me so i have no clue what you are talking about. I'm also african leaving in europe and trust me when i tell you i'm not the person to intimate in anyway or shape period.
Sniper 11 N.D. Well that’s what I’ve gotten from the black guys around me. God forbid I talk about my goals to them the next thing they say is I need to pipe down. Pipe down to what? Working minimum wage forever and be a baby mama like the others? Nah! Idk but white guys are just different tbh even their manner of approach but 🤷🏾♀️. The black ones can stay intimidated. I see the money lol!
Ok good for you. Tell me what's your point?
Sniper 11 N.D. Are u dyslexic? Maybe read again because I don’t understand the aggressive tone chill lmao!
A black women at work got mad rude when I just looked at her her cousin checked her told her she was out of line she got her act together I told the cousin I appreciate it but I wasn’t bothered and I didn’t want her anyways
On another note, as far as the women who reject a dude that was digging them, and count all the dudes they reject, when they post 30 bragging about all the proposals they turned down, I see these same women become alcoholics, spinsters, or develop some addiction... Black, white, Asian, latin, middle eastern...
They have the nerve to cry when they are alone.
man, I just got back from overseas from a month and a half. The game is so much different in places like Brazil or Colombia.
The fuckery is nonexistent or at least at a minimum. I hated the fact that I had to come back.
I understand.
Passport game in action...
Damn
Gonway Tha Prodigy Fuckery is everywhere they just didn't give you attitude because you were a American. which means you have money or at least more than the men in those countries. I'm sure those guys out there get treated like shit also.
Spot on for me. Dogged out and bullied for years for being "white". It hurt enough that i just started to avoid all together but I'm not against dating a black girl if i find her attractive and we click. The clicking part is the issue now since i dont or cant relate to much of the community.
I understand.
Everything you said in the video is true. I think one thing that might have also contributed to this is them saying out loud they want a good man yet still date the ones who use and abuse them. All races of women do this at some point in their lives, but they don't yell loud and proud that they need good men.
It's like you say one thing but desire the opposite till your 38 and starting to hit the wall. Yes, other women do it also, but they don't go in public and say their men ain't shit yet still date ain't shit men. It's like they love the victim narrative .
This isn't all black women. In fact 95% of the ones I'm social with are married with children. But that 1984 double speak shot is killing them .
Either you want to deal with the ones who treat you wrong or you dont.
Playing victim for bad choices is no longer gonna get you a pass. Saying you want one thing but desiring the opposite is counter productive
Well said.
Bingo!!!!
They make it seem as if they didn't have nothing to do with the outcome of their life pure delusion
Lol I've been put down for no particular reason by black women before. I wasn't even trying to holler at any of these women. Just minding my own business, crazy mofo's started dissing me smh
Wow thank you i can relate to this
You're welcome.
Preach!!! Damn uncle rom don did it again.
I wish I could like this fucking video a million times and oh your voice is so smooth over that nice background playing in the background
Thank you.
"Seriously though it's not rocket science" Rom Wills 💯✊
Common sense is not common.
I keep telling people that.
Just uploaded yesterday and already over 5,000 views. This is going to be a good one...
It's a hot topic.
Uncle Rom, again, is hitting the target! I can't even count the amount if rejection I've received in high school and college from black women Conversely, I can measure the amount of cooperation I received from white and Asian women.... The support system alone is reason enough to recommend interracial dating to young brothers. Black men need love too. I watched that woman's video. I, too, would have commented, but I'm guessing a few brothers hit her with some straight facts and she didn't want to hear it.
I had to say something.
Another great video when will these women learn that their standards will always get them in trouble
Who knows?
One of the chapters of your book Nice Guys and Players was like a refresher course for me. Letting them choose is a major principle for me. As for the sistahs complaining about not finding a good man. Well...if their relationship resume isn't that impressive, what do they expect?
Great vid Rom!
I viewed the vid Rom is responding to (the vlogger is a 28 year old bw who isn't in great shape who resides in LA). I spent a week in Southern California. You can trip over an all natural 7, 8, or 9 at any given moment. The best looking women are located where there's power, money, status/fame, and good weather (Southern California, Miami, NYC, DMV, and Chicago). In other words, women who don't present their best. Can't realistically compete!
The vlogger's other issue is that she expressed she hangs out with her SINGLE friends. The reality is the best looking and most feminine women are acquired before their late 20s! Granted, the ones who bought into feminism or the "strong & independent" rhetoric. Are acquired in their 30s!
The majority of divorces occur when the couples married in their early 20s and when the women are 33+ years. Also factor in the fact that 60%-70% of divorces are initiated by women. And we're in the era of women's sexual liberation. What would wise, smart, and men of means/options do?
Good points. I have a video coming tomorrow about how men with options roll.
soooo who are supposed to hang out with? have you ever heard of the shit friends in relationships or are married do? once a female is taken that's it. the friendships become a hi and bye status. till she single again... you men do not do that but women do.
bronzed curls When my sisters and I were kids. My father would tell us that we'd be lucky to have 5 true friends in our lifetime. In other words, you should be focusing on your health, passion/goals, and improving your skills. That will determine the type/quality of people you attract and allow into your life.
It's female nature to nest. Once she has a partner and especially when she has a child. She naturally focuses more on protecting and expanding her nest. Females are very selfish beings!
Also, a girlfriend or wife who acts single will eventually be single again, cheated on, or neglected. A healthy masculine man won't tolerate that. He also won't tolerate his mate's friends who can/will jeopardize his mission, goals, and relationship.
4 BROTHERS ON THEIR GAME, HAVING A CERTAIN LEVEL OF SELF-UNDERSTANDING AND FINANCIALLY SELF-SUFFICIENT SHOULDN'T EVEN SWEAT THIS SHIT!!! NATURE NOT WOMEN ALWAYS HAS THE LAST LAUGH!!!
Well said.
What go's around come's around, it's great.
I saw that Lexi Darcel video... she came off with an overly masculine vibe and underlying disdain for black men.
Never-mind the fact she resembles 1985 chicago bears middle linebacker Mike Singletary
I'm going to address the disdain issue in my next video.
At the end of her video she briefly mentioned the crux of her problem. She said she didn't want to lower her standards. Water was finding its own level and she didn't like it.
Sup Don!
I was one of those who commented on that broad's video before she wiped the comment section. However, it's too bad that black broads don't want (black) men to have a voice. When the roles are reversed we just don't tune in. Ultimately, I think that BGS IBMOR's treatise, _The Unified Theory of Black Male and Female Relationships_ applies.
doncalypso of course they have a great disdain for black men here in L.A. because the wall of silence is real! I never talked to a black woman out here, even if they are fine. In fact I dismiss them because I don't want to deal with the b.s. plus we can date Latinas, white girls and Asians fairly easily so what would you pick? LOL
If you holler at enough women you will get rejected a percentage of the time just because a woman might be in a relationship or just might not find your particular look attractive or something along those lines, but sadly there’s a higher chance of being rejected harshly by a black woman. My harshest rejections have been by black women and it’s not even close lol. And this is from a guy who never had problems with attracting women of all colors
That's the issue. The hard rejections.
Excellent content, Uncle Rom.
Thank you.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Dennis Rodman said he dates white women because black women kept on rejecting him.
Thumbs up, but for me it wasn’t an issue of rejection, I never had a problem attracting black women.. I just always liked what I like, that exotic look, Arab/Persian, middle eastern women.. I’m with a shorty from North Africa now and from the femininity, holding on to her virginity, soft spoken, classy, works out, makes great money, respects the masculine principle, I couldn’t ask for much more! Unfortunately a lot of the “sisters” I’ve come across are just the total opposite. I’m not saying they’re all like that, but I live in NYC and just walking on the streets of Manhattan or Brooklyn, not much changes, maybe the Midwest or the south it’s better but I don’t care to find out at this point lol
I haven’t heard of you, but I’m happy to know what you are doing. I will certainly take a look at your site. I humbly suggest that you encourage the men that you work with to lessen or stop the criticism and complaining and examine why they are attracting negative women. We all attract what we ARE and not what we want. It’s time for the healing to begin.
Maybe we need to deal with WHY they are behaving the way they do. People want Black Men to stop certain behaviors without asking how they got that way.
Rom Wills I so agree with you, which is essentially, the same thing I am trying to say. According to the men I have talked to, some of the reasons have to do with a poor relationship with their Mothers or other Black authority figures, or they are angry/ hurt about the many negative experiences they’ve had with Black women. Black men have a right to be angry about these things. It becomes problematic when the relentless criticism and bashing goes on, without any kind of resolution and men choose to displace their anger and resentment on sometimes, undeserving women who have nothing to do with their past experiences.
I always want to be a part of the solution and not the problem. Yes, there are some treacherous, trifling Black women out there, but there are also some sincere, soft and kind ones out there too. (I’m willing to admit, not that many), but they DO exist. We’re being lumped together with the undesirables, which is unfortunate.
We don't even acknowledge bw no more
i wish i had five thumbs for this Uncle Rom.
Thank you.
For me, the more time i spend around a group of woman the better my chances are 🤔
College, wrk, black activities etc.
I feel you.
The thing about that is not just the personal rejection but the side rejection. The side rejections is seeing a friend or fellow black man get rejected hard for saying hello. With the usual attitude, eye roll or/and loud rude retort. He is wasn't rude or anything. That right there makes men not want to approach or date them. Smh.
That's the problem. I have told women if you have to reject a man be polite. Even if they say they are simply not interested it can still be said politely. Men can handle that.
I've touched a few hot stoves in my life. Trust and believe i won't go near the kitchen
Black men need to start dating foreign women. Stop worrying about what black women think. I project in 2018, dating will get worse for black women.
I always recommend Black men go global.
The grass isn't greener on the other side, it's greenest where it's watered. Its funny to me how so many sisters complain about lack of quality brothers, yet those same brothers have no issues getting with commensurate women of other races. Many brothers don't approach sisters nowadays as a result of and a response to the collective attitdues and actions of black women. In simpler terms, the good black women are seen as guilty by association .
That's what's happening.
I go where I'm wanted and appreciated. If I'm trying to talk to Latoya and she's not giving me the time of day, but Becca is willing and ready then guess where the path of least resistance is at?
I love my beautiful chocolate ladies it's just separating the classy ones from the ratchets.
You're right.
justin lumpkin Classy ones are still the same as the rachet ones. They all like the same type of guys.
Some women called you ugly? Wonder what they call the REAL ugly guys? Gargoyles?😂
For me, I never really approached black women as far as I can remember. I grew up in the hood around ratchet females and they turned me off to black women as a result. I do find some of them attractive but the attitude is too much for me. I always took it too that I wasn't attractive enough for them anyways. I'm 5'7 with average looks. One of my older brothers who's the same height, has a lighter complexion (had a different father), used to get rejected by black women often. He was angry quite often because of it and he mostly blamed it on the west coast atmosphere. He moved down south to Atlanta after a few bad relationships and he got more attention from black women. He was around the same age I'm at now in my mid 30's. I haved noticed that older black women are attracted to me. Maybe because they ran through the wall and want a young man now. Regardless, I know I'm not on most black women's radar so I go to where I can get noticed. Black women are pretty but so are other women also. I've always had a thing for white and latina women. More friendlier and feminine for the most part. Thank you Rom for your knowledge and insight!
Go with the women who are feeling you.
You're exactly right. Sistas that disagree with this message are not being honest or reasonable. They might be Butt Hurt by it, but they really need to grow up some more and listen. Great Commentary.
Thank you Bro. Leslie.
Its crazy how when you hit the gym and get all fit and looking good. The women that never gave you the time of day now all of a sudden wanna come flocking to you. Thats the shit i hate.
It is what it is.
Me 2 bruh r they wanna be friendly r sum after being talked bad about
Let's take imprinting to the next level: Mothers. A lot of black mothers don't realize that they are their son's first impression of black women. If they're on precious, or have a bad attitude and mean muggin all the time, what are they telling their sons about bw?
Imprinting starts with the mother anyway. Many women are setting their sons up to be failures with women.
Rom Wills that's exactly right.