Airplane crash altiport de Megève france altiport france landing without landing gear (HD)
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- We did not know, what will happen in the next 4 minutes. I was filming the approach for my personal video files, than it happens. The crash. Right after the crash, we don't knew what was happening. We all survived. This video shows the approach to the altiport megève. Both, the pilot and the mountain rate teacher have several thousands of flight hours and a huge experience, but it happens, that the gear was forgotten. On the video you can hear the warning signal of the plane, that indicates, that the gear was not pulled out. No one was harmed by the crash.
After the crash, we tried to move the plane, but we had to get a tractor, to pull the crashed plane from the runway. You can see this in the further video.
So i can give you the following advice: Check your gear twice or use a plane with a fixed gear.
The flight was on the 29. August 2009 at 10:19 AM.
The engineer that installed that alarm is face-palming.....
***** dammit headphones and the ears of those old mans!
***** now a days you have speech warning
Andaluxsystems Not just that, but is a reminder that you always have to go through the pre-landing checklist! do not trust your memory
Alberto Pezzani spot on, we as humans are liable to forget
crash crazy ))
You can tell that you did a gear up landing because it takes a lot more power to taxi afterward. :)
Braking is pretty good on a short strip though
I heard a similar story from my dad, who was an RCAF Flight Instructor at Moose Jaw in the 1950s. He said one day a harvard trainer landed with its wheels up after repeated cries from the controller to lower the wheels, which the pilot had forgotten.
When the aircraft came to a stop, the conversation went something like this:
Controller: "Didn't you hear me tell you to lower your gear?"
Pilot: "I couldn't hear anything over that damned horn!"
:)
LoL I bet he was a popular guy.
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Pilot: What's the beeping noice?
Instructor: I don't know never heard of it.
Passenger: Look I can see my house from here!
lol
I believe This to be the oldest and original narrative style Comment. You are responsible for all of the current douches that think they are Being creative.
Asshole.
Tim Watson, calm down and droop your snoot.
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Unbelievable. Ignored the warning alarm, no landing checks, no last minute gear check. Glad everyone is okay. Thank you passenger for sharing this video, it will be shown in many ground schools I'm sure!!
I'm a Pilot and i live in Brazil. During the WW2 (most aircraft didn't have retractable landing gears earlier than that) such thing happened so often, but so often, that they inserted an regulation on Brazilian airspace that on final you had to call out "gear down and locked" even after you completed your final checklist.
It has been like that for 70 years, and well, sometimes shit just happens.
I love how they both just look at each other.
Merci d'avoir mis cette video en ligne.
Ca nous rappelle, si il en était besoin, que personne n'est a l'abri d 'une connerie de debutant.
Une belle leçon heureusement sans dommage pour l'equipage.
ce n'est pas une connerie de débutant il a du avoir l'effet tunnel
En effet, et c'est d'ailleurs bien pour cela que les check-lists sont faites.
2 outta 3...the photographer did an amazing job of keeping his cool, and not only shooting, but framing his shots, and telling a good video story.
I love the way he taps the ends of the prop as if it’s just gonna bend back 😂😂😂
1:30 see faces of both legends and guess what is he thinking about each other LOL LOL LOL 😂😂😂
I retired after nearly fourty years as a professional aviator and I can tell you that the thing to do after a wheels-up landing is walk around the damaged aircraft, touch the prop tips, and then roll the prop around to the horizontal position. This makes everything much better. The gear will extend and all the damage will miraculously disappear. Seriously thouugh, aside from the wheels being up, take note at the touch down position on the runway, He's well to the left of center, in fact nearly in the grass. Then note when he exits the airplane there's no wind, as indicated by his shirt, the trees, and his brain, hanging limp.
+atwaterclerk Well, first we are assuming that the instructor is the pilot-in-command, which may not be the case. It's entirely possible that he was just along for the ride. However, if he was checking the guy out then there is no question about it, as PIC the responsibility for the incident falls squarely on his shoulders. Regardless of what the situation was, the thing that bothers me is that there are three people on board and no one noticed or questioned the screaming gear warning horn. But the really disturbing thing here is that I never heard of a watermelon flavored lolly pop and feel I've missed out on something!!!!! Anyway, Happy Flying.
+atwaterclerk LOL That's very kind of you, but really not necessary. Good for you, you're absolutely right, I pull out the checklist even if it's only a three step procedure. People may ask, "Can't you remember just three steps?" The answer is yes. But once you begin giving in to laziness and letting good operating procedures slip in one aspect, that attitude begins manifesting itself in others. Continue safely with your diligent procedures and enjoy many more happy hours of flying. P.S. Have you ever had a watermelon flavored lolly pop while you were flying? That must be Nirvana!
Classic case of 'all the gear and no idea'.
@@JulianShagworthy I'm glad no one was hurt, but It's truly heartbreaking to see that beautiful aircraft so needlessly damaged like that.
@@logancody8841 Absolutely. None of us are perfect, but I see the way some pilots operate aircraft and wonder if they realise just how much money, research, design and love has gone into creating the machine they're in control of.
How in the hell did they not notice the god awful dog whistle freaking warning?????
tinnitus !!
Maybe they didn’t know what it meant
@@speedbrake22 When you hear a sound you never heard every landings before, you MUST check everything
They say there was an other plane in front of them, and they were looking at him so intense, they forgot the landing gear
Une belle mise en lumière de l'effet tunnel qui nous focalise sur une problématique au détriment du reste.
Merci pour votre vidéo. (c'est courageux de la mettre en ligne) .
Comme on dit, c'est un bon atterrissage car le pilote et les passagers sont réutilisables.
Probablement que l'avion également après quelques réparations car le posé était tout doux.
J ai vu des atterrissages avec train sorti plus degueulasses que celui là
for wheels up landing, it was a perfect and smooth touch down
Wow that is a steep approach! Are you trying to avoid ground fire?
The runway is upslope. Typical visual illusion
The look from the guy in the right seat is priceless.
Never ever skip a checklist! Fixed gear or not, there are many more things one could forget...
I love how the two guy look at each other after the landing. It was like "you forgot to put the gear down. No, you forgot!"
A very expensive mistake. Glad no one was hurt.
Copilot: "Are we a bit high?"
Pilot: "Say again! I can't hear you over that damn horn!"
Could it be possible that the not hearing of the gear warning was caused by the use of noise cancelling headphones? The tone is a constant frequency wich should be very easy to be filtered out by the headphones?
Sander Van de Maele Sorry for late reply. 😎 From experience, no. I use Bose A20s and flew the TB20 for a couple years. The GEAR NOT DOWN warning horn comes in quite clear, even with ANR on.
OLD AGE cancels high pitch noises, even loud ones.
@@johnrickard7481 In that case he wouldn't have passed his medical anymore. Old age makes you hear high frequencies worse (or not at all), but you must be able to hear sounds at 3kHz to pass your medical. And that warning horn was certainly not that high - sounds to be around 1500Hz.
This is the point of a checklist, had they adhered to this fundamental Landing Checklist this would never happen. Noise or no noise.
Landing checklist? No? Typical aeroclub mentalitiy right here!
Yes, and in case ou doubt (alarm), go around is free !
Can happen to anyone.
@@12345fowler forgetting a check list maybe. I am well aware of the human factor issues but not hearing a loud landing gear horn for minutes? That can't happen if so you shouldn't be allowed to fly any sort of plane.
@Thomas Bérard maybe my eyes are lying to me, but it looks like there's PLENTY of air that an airplane could climb into off the end of the runway, and off to the side of the runway.
Why would someone say that no go-around is possible? You're not committed to landing as long as the engine is turning.
My guess is they ran the checklist... going through the Motions, not actually doing the work.
I am a professionnel Pilot and even Mountain Flight Instructor, after reading all these comments , never forget one important thing , the gear of course yes , i definitly agree that, but moreover , don' t blame these guys , because as you know , what comes around goes around, and what you are blaming on may happen to you one day or another ... never forget that , NEVER .....I just wanted to remind you that because it's not shown on your CHECK LISTs
fly safe!
Pilot in command IS responsible.
So who is to blame? Mountain fairies? They didn't do a proper pre-landing check and ignored the warning buzzer.
fly safe? a plane is not a common thing that everyone has at home
WOKE bullshit. Who the fuck are we supposed to blame?
Hey dudes, it is not a crash, nor a disaster; the approach is very good, not steepy, exactly as it should be ! don't write without knowledges. A gear-up landing is not an accident, but pilot's experience growing.
The one filming the video seems not to be a pilot; he does a very good job, no cut of video, for a nice story and good lesson for pilots and non-pilots.
He has published the video, (the pilot doesn't do that, who is not silly, with the no-experienced comments that may be done).
"Oh yeah!! That's what that LOUD fucking screeching noise was indicating..."
I wonder if they ignore the stall horn as well?
Don't worry boys, it'll buff right out.
And to this day he still hears that beeping noise.
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A great advert for why gear warning systems should annunciate "Gear! Gear! Gear!" and not just beep annoyingly.Maybe in 1960 a beep was technically all that was possible, but now it should be easily possible to "upgrade" to a sensible warning - if only it wasn't for all the paperwork required :-(
Great idea Mike. Things like that should be evaluated! Regards.
Excactly...we get the „terrain warning“ even in small airplanes, but I guess that comes with modern avionics while the „gear up“
beep in the TB20 is still 80‘s technology.
A few years late, but very good observation Mike. It's up to the avionics and airframe developer working together to incorporate such an alert. Either way, if the pilot ran through his checklist instead of thinking his years of experience as a pilot would get him through, he would not have made himself to be such a spectacle
Two types of pilot...those that have landed with the gear up, and those that will do......! Seriously lovely aeroplane, could that gear warning have been any louder?? What a shame, bet the pilot was feeling a prize plonker.....
+tobagotb10 .....terrible story tobagotb10..... We can all learn from these incidents, I'm certainly not judging anyone....
+TheMissendenFlyer Thankfully, wheels-up landings are relatively rare. However, the hair-puller here is that there are three people on the airplane. Now, the person taking video may not be a pilot, but in the front are a pilot and instructor. The "gear unsafe" warning is blaring for the last 79 seconds of the approach and no one one notices it. I don't know how you say "situational awareness" in French, but apparently neither do these two.
+TheMissendenFlyer So was the gear initially lowered and failed to come down, or did they just forget to lower it in the first place despite the warning signal? If it's the later then i'm shocked. It's bloody loud enough !
+Hategplus crevis Looks like they just failed to lower it - I'm not passing judgement though, this could happen to me one day....
They not only forgot to lower the gear, but they never responded to the screaming gear warning horn. What makes it worse is that the pilot in the right seat is a flight instructor.
Thank you for sharing your experience so we can all learn. I'm glad nobody was hurt.
What was your descent rate on approach? It looks really steep.
I've tried landing here in my sim many times, but I've never been able to do it without damaging the aircraft. Mountain flying is difficult.
and distracting apparently.....
This was intentional. Every pilot needs to practice a gear up landing. Landing gear failures do happen. It is best to have experience before such an event.
Yes, gear up landing training is pretty expensive, but it's good practice, right?
You're joking, right? Intentionally damaging a plane doesn't seem smart. They can practice on flight simulators.
Hey is it possible that I use this in a compilation? It would mean a lot to me. Or if you need it in french... Salut! est-il possible que je l'utilise dans une compilation? Cela signifierait beaucoup pour moi.
R.I.P Headphone Users
I've seen a few gear up landing videos before, but I've never seen one where the pilot just 'forgot' the landing gear!
One of my planes is a bonanza I own with a partner. He just forgot the other day. Total write off. I owe him flowers because it was well over insured. I'll make a profit on it. :)
i once forgot to lower the landing gear
How do you "overinsure" something? Every time I've had a loss, the insurance company checks the value exhaustively and bends over backwards to lowball the hell out of the settlement. If you really do profit, it's at my expense. You're welcome.
jjohnston94 aircraft are insured for "stated value" not fair market. If it's a total loss there is no negotiation, they are required to write you a check for the amount stated when you took out the policy. Sometimes when you purchase the policy they may negotiate the top value then but after the accident it's too late.
I seen it happen on a King Air with 2 pilots in the front. Props bent to shit. They both got fired. Gear handle was in up position. After plane was jacked. Gear came down normally and locked.
Err... CHECKLISTS?
Man, I could hear that geat warning here in California. Did the folks up front not hear it? Did you doing the filming not hear it? I'll bet the repair bill is significant. There is a saying in aviation: there are those pilots who have made a wheels up landing, and those who will. Still, that gear warning should have gotten their attention.
Au moins la distance d'atterrissage a été courte, pas de risque de sortir de la piste ^^
Homer Simpson asked the question best...
"Is that a GOOD siren?"
I like how both of them looked at each other like the other guy messed up by not putting the gears down. The gear alert system was beeping the entire time.
Hi Richard, I am from New Zealand and do not speak French, sorry. From my 5000 hours of flight time and regular use of sloping airstrips, it is my opinion that the appoach path was quite normal - probably not much over 3 degrees from level, if at all over the 3 degrees. While I could not see the instrumentation, there did not appear to be any difficulty with the speed getting high (which it would have done an approach which was too steep). It is a visual illusion! Safe flying!
G.U.M.P.S, just started my complex rating. My instructor used this video to teach me the importance of going the your 'before landing checklist', no matter if its a fixed gear or retractable. Gas, Undercarriage, Mixture, Prop, seatbelts and switches.
I'm not a pilot, but besides the obvious stupidity of ignoring that warning sound - is a machine like this supposed to go down this steep? It looks like they literally force-dived this thing down.
the approach to airports in mountain-regions are quite different to a normal airport's 3° approach. So I wouldn't say this was wrong. I don't know this airport and it's approach. But since it's a rather long threshold i think the approach really is that steep.
bruchpilot747 Thanks, that makes sense. /]
cheers
Yes, steep approaches in light aircraft are fine, even without terrain... I do them quite often because, in a single engined aircraft, if an engine goes, you're gliding. So during your approach you want to remain at a height where, if the engine goes, you can still make the runway.
The horn in this aircraft is the same for various of situations. Even if you drop the manifold pressure under 15 to perform a quick dive like they probably did. Checklist is the correct answer, and in the final a quick look in mixture-prop-gear.
I was trained in Australia. The following checks are mandatory for all pilots before landing. Two landing gear checks, amongst others, are routine upon arriving at an aerodrome.
Downwind 'BUMFH' check: Brakes, Feet on the floor. Undercarriage down and LOCKED. Mixture rich. Fuel on BOTH and sufficient. Hatches and harnesses are secure.
Final 'PUFF' check: Pitch full fine, Undercarriage down, Flaps full, Cowl Flaps open, Carburetor heat. (For Carb engines)
A warning horn can be so easily ignored while under the influence of 'tunnel vision' upon landing. Fixating on the landing while ignoring other instruments could easily turn fatal. We are human after all and need to be aware of these potential threats. However, ignorance has no place in aviation.
I could cry. That is a Trinidad TB21 TC GT. what a shame and glad you are all okay
Amazing capture ! Would you mind if I use part of this video , in one of my next episodes?Of course with a link back to your original video. Peace!
Il son sourd ou quoi? L'alarme du train gueulais
What a beautiful plane it is...
45 years and 23,000+ hours, never did this. My final approach check, as a rule was at 500 feet AGL, "gear- down, wings- level, approach -stabilized, cleared to land". Granted, there could be some type of distraction, but that self -call out at 500 feet AGL, I considered as the last chance for me to catch anything that could cause a problem that I could correct/avoid. Even flying a fixed gear aircraft, I always used the same 500 foot check. Sounds silly to make a gear check in a fixed gear airplane if I was flying one, but I never broke my 500 foot check.
it's not silly. it's a good habit. It's better to have the habit to check gear down when you don't have it 99 % of the time, than forget it that 1 % .
"What's that sound?"
"Sorry, that's my Tinnitus"
I would be extremely ashamed... With 3 people in the aircraft and no one recalls the gear horn
I'm wondering if those are noise-cancelling headsets and if the warning horn also sounds through the intercom.
IncyABZ u can still hear the warning sounds clearly for sure. otherwise no one would ever buy noise-canceling headsets. It seems like there was nothing wrong with this accident but the pilots.
IncyABZ I'm not sure they are noise cancelling head phones. I'm not even sure that type of headphone is legal. If they cancel warning sounds they should be illegal if they aren't already. I pilot needs to be able to hear any warnings and the engine as well, so he can tell if it's not running properly.
***** One more thing, I think an audio saying " Extend Landing Gear " would have been more appropriate rather than this sound, anyway no excuses for the pilot, very bad performance .!!!!!!
That is the best explanation I have seen so far. Maybe they never heard it? Still, confirmation of gear down should be one of the fundamental checks before landing.
This guy should never ever be allowed to fly anything more than a Cessna 150.
why? so he could destroy that plane too?
The sound is to high for people with audition troubles.
Andaluxsystems maybe the gear wasn't working? If the gear isn't working it will also give the gear-up warning.
99domini99 oh nevermind, i just re-readed the text under the video and it appears to be forgotten... sorry.
That makes him a shit pilot indeed.
There are two types of pilots - those who have accidentally landed gear-up and those who will one day accidentally land gear-up.
ATC: Captain Captain! I told you over the radio "your undercarriage is UP"...
Pilot: I was trying to hear but there was this annoying alarm that wouldn't let me!!!!! LOL
Well before jumping all over these guys consider that there have been instances of professional airline crews forgetting to lower the gear , as happened on May 22, 2020, to Pakistan Airlines.
Airliners go into busy airports that have tower controllers and there have been many gear up landings avoided because the controller in the tower, or another pilot , warned the landing plane's crew that the gear was not down. These guys in this video didn't have that advantage because this airport was small and had no controllers directing traffic.
There have been MANY instances of airline pilots and military pilots landing at the wrong airport. Another embarrassing situation to say the least.
In this video you had a situation where the pilot was too high on the approach. His full attention now goes to getting the airplane down to the proper altitude in order to avoid the embarrassment of having to do a go around. He reduces power to idle in order to get down and that triggers the gear warning, but he and the pilot passenger both now have tunnel vision on needing to get down that their brains lock out all outside distractions not pertaining to the objective at hand. The rest is history, or as the french say, c'est la vie
You know what helps dissipate energy if you are steep on approach? Putting the gear down. Maybe they ignored it because they thought they were going to have to go around being so steep....then forgot to actually put it down when they were back on glide-slope.....then again...the gear should help you to gear down faster at idle....so...idk.
Checklist. It's that simple. Totally avoidable. Complacency kills.
As amateurish as it can get. Where's the - obligatory - final checklist? Flaps, Three greens ..." Nothing!
as we say in french : PILOTES DU DIMANCHE. (litterally means pilots of sunday...) I like the instructor asking "did you lower the gear ?" "no" LOL well as instructor, you are responsible man... YOU should have checked if the gear was down and locked.
On dit sunday pilot, tintin.
sorry, rich guy, no more complex aircraft for you.
Well, at least, the pilot occupying the right seat was fashionably dressed and had his sweater correctly and loosely draped around his neck ...... always in good-form when unconsciously riding along through what might have been a catastrophic accident.
First of all, it's 1 pilot and 1 flight instructor. As the pilot doesn't live in the Alps region, he flies there almost yearly to renew his altiport (mountain flying) certification as you are not allowed to land at an altiport without that (valid!) certification.This fateful flight was such a certification flight with an local flight instructor.
The pilot owned several Trinidads and a Grumman Tiger AA5. Experience on C182 T RG as well Aerobatic on Walter Extra 300 etc. etc.
Very experienced!
Engines were off at least during landing?
No pre-landing checklist?
Final Checklist?
I know exactly what the pilot tought when he touched the ground:
"fuck :)"
So close, captain...
That's a pretty fair conclusion to the hypothesis, and only the relevant Air Safety Bureau can give the true picture. However to us armchair experts, it would seem to me a mix-up in warning sounds to the pilot's comprehension of what the aeroplane was doing at the time. But on the positive side, it was a safe landing in that no one was killed, all walked away unharmed and uninjured except for pride, and the only damage to the plane was a bent prop, and a few scratches on the under fuselage.
02:08 "Well there's your problem"
Could anyone tell me what that plane is? Such a beautiful aircraft!!
+Infinity "Was" a beautiful aircraft! (later you might hear: "damn, those repairs are so good, you can hardly see the previous damage.")
+Michael Donavon True LoL
It's a "Socata TB-20 Trinidad GT".
+Will Givenoname thank you :))
"I once had an awkward moment, ....just to see what it felt like."
It was a beautiful airplane... and you're alive to see another day..... any Landing you walk away from awesome Landing
They had a lot of experience? In what, bread making?
The approach is so fucking insanely steep. You had to know they don't know shit about flying when you dive for the deck like the wings are on fire. Even a deadstick landing wouldn't require such a steep approach. That impossible to ignore, ear piercing gear warning alarm should have been a sign to anyone with a brain that something was wrong. I guess they should have installed the slap you in the face and kick you in the nuts gear warning system, because that's what it would take to get through to these "pilots."
Yea, pretty much looked like an assault landing to me.
Nothing wrong with the approach. I've owned a share in a TB20 and I have also landed several times at Megeve (though not in the TB). The runway is a steep uphill - it is a one-way altiport. The correct picture on finals does look like you are in a dive-bomber. As for forgetting the gear and ignoring the horn - well, I have no idea how they did that.
@@viper8red Nothing wrong with the landing. The runway is a 7% slope for most of the length. But you still want to maintain a downward slope to avoid losing speed during final approach and flare.
Always the French that do stupid things when flying. I'm sorry but when you have a rather loud gear horn shouting at you for over 2 minutes letting you know you haven't extended your gear, it shouldn't happen.
Some people can't hear such high tones !
Yes they are french !
Les pilotes ont l'air français...
Christophe Mercier Je ne suis pas en disant que les français sont de mauvais pilotes. Je dis qu'ils font toujours se regarder stupide. Par exemple. L'A380 dans JFK. Et ces deux pilotes, ainsi il n'y a aucune excuse
Un peu vite pour conclure "toujours"...
genius!!! oh my god, the warning noise is so loud, no gump check was performed (gas undercarriage mixture propeller). and what is that approach pitch? is the guy going for a kamikaze dive??
High-quality video of an absolutely horrible pilot-in-command that didn't end in injury or death? Great footage!
check d approche les mecs !!! comme au depart a l allumage : personne devant personne derriere... personne ne le fait et pourtant....
remember fellas... the alarm and the check list. simple...
I'm lost here. the signal for the forgotten landing gear came on, so why didn't the pilot deploy it?
You know that beep you're hearing? It's trying to tell you the gear is still up.
So what was the cause? Mechanical failure or pilot error? Pls answer!
You "forgot" the landing gear? But... wasn't the alarm a slight indicator???
So you didn't think to investigate what was causing the alarm before you hit the ground? And this pilot has over a thousand hours of flying experience? We all make mistakes sometimes, even professional pilots, but ignoring an alarm mid-air is not something that should be forgotten.
Thanks for posting. That's an invaluable teaching aid.
It's not like a warning sound came on or anything.... right?
1:30 see faces of both legends and guess what is he thinking about each other LOL 😂😂😂
The designer created the most piercing, annoying gear warning sound he possibly could... he did his best!
Besides not putting the gear down, what the hell kind of approach was that?
even my grandmother never forgot to lower the landing gear at this time... LOL
Never understood why the gear warning alarm is not wired into the intercom. It should be.
Think you for sharing. We can learn from your mishap. Glad no-one was hurt.
Je suis élève pilote de ligne à l'ENAC et notre prof de facteurs humains nous a passé cette vidéo comme exemple de cécité d'inattention (cherchez sur wikipédia).
Ils étaient concentrés sur autre chose au point de ne pas remarquer l'alarme pourtant bien audible !
It's a real bone head thing to do. Very embarrassing, but thanks for being brave enough to post it.
@teebeaubobo It IS the landing gear warning horn, believe it or not it happens that you foget it in your flow, overlook it in your checklist, and become so fixated by what's happening that you don't realize your gear is up.
Une approche plutôt ULM qu'avion non ?
ou bien est-ce dû à la configuration de la piste ?
quelqu'un connaissant LFHM pourrait me renseigner ?
statistics show that pilots are at higher risk during two points: the first 2 years after acquiring the private and i believe at about 8000+ hours plus. complacency sets in. Its good everyone survived. It is not that uncommon to ignore a warning sound if you're so focused, distracted or overwhelmed by an high performance flight maneuver (spelling) in an unfamiliar aircraft. Hopefully the filming didn't add to the distractions. Ensure checklists are followed and use extra crew as resources.
This comment makes perfect sense! Irvin seems to be an educated expert. Just don’t read/disregard all the other trash comments. Thank you!
@@rolandvierhauser7713 wow...that comment was 7 years ago. Oh my, how time "flys" Mr Vierhauser. Well I was a PPL multi engine rated pilot back when I made the comment. Now I'm an ATP E-175 first officer and CFII. It's interesting to see how so much of this "pilot stuff" still applies even in the airlines. Happy skies my friend!
aaaah non mais l alarme de non sorti hurle telement fort qui arrive meme pas a entendre et il faut toujour pensé que ce n ai pas une voiture c est un avion avec un train d atterisage... je me demande ce qui aprenne au cours pour piloté
INCREDIBLE!!! This event boils down to one thing, the pilot/s don't know the planes systems! They where just going along for the ride!
Gear warning sound but the pilots didnt bother to check???
Wow James, those noise cancelling headsets work great.
I agree they were focusing on adjusting for the steeper than normal approach and didn't go through their checklist. Per the originally poster both pilots have 'thousands' of hours and one of them was a mountain flying instructor. It's just an old fashioned case of rushing and forgetting the gear.
If you have a warning .how do you land without putting the gear down ?
On second thought, this could be a very good ad for David Clarke or Sennheiser Aviation Headsets and their potential in active nose cancellation technology.
True, the main problem is if you don't notice the alarm after 10s, she will become your best friend and part of your environment, that's what happened there, pilots were focused on something else, and the alarm became part of their environment: bad issue....
I'm not sure how they managed to overlook the gear warning. It would be driving me crazy. Unless the headphones canceled the noise, which would not be a good thing.
It has nothing to do with age. Pilots of all ages forget to lower the gear. It's an expensive but non-fatal mistake.
Was the aircraft reparable?