Major Breakthrough in Nuclear Fusion After Decades of Research
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Magnetic confinement fusion reactors actually reach plasma temperatures higher than those inside stars, but at extremely low pressures. The high temperatures are to compensate for the low pressure, as stars "cheat" by using the unimaginable pressures created by their gravity wells to fuse atoms (not to be confused with Anton).
Also, the magnetic confinement part is to keep the hot plasma away from the reactor walls.
Extreme pressure is partially what the lasers are for. Weird how it works.
Stars actually cheat by using quantum tunneling to achieve fusion.
@@jooei2810 Thanks!
@@jooei2810 Correct, quantum tunneling is necessary since the temperature inside a star is not hot enough for fusion.
@@jooei2810 Not cheating at all. Nature just understands itself better than we do.
Anton, without you producing these videos I would never hear or understand anything about these topics. Please never change my dude.
Ggggggggg gee#
He presents complicated systems in simple to understand
Ways
Agreed..
Yes, most appreciated.
Fun fact, that nuclear reactor room is what they used in the "Star Trek: Into darkness" movie as the warp core. They filmed the entire scene in that lab.
So Kirk should take credit for this for kicking the thing back into alignment.
@@y0uCantHandle lol
If i am not mistaken, in The Expanse, we can see those pellets on their ships.
@@britoherbert1958 Yeah it sure looks like they were inspired by this.
Too bad the movie sucked. They don't need to destroy the Enterprise every movie. That makes the crew a group of idiots who shouldn't be in charge of a Starship.
"which will probably happen in a few years from now" - me, 1970.
I remember it being described in the late 90s as: 10 years away, and always will be
@likeable antagonist In moon, NASA is working in that, they plan to create some domes where the moon workers will live, and we still need a orbital elevator to transport the batteries, the reactor itself is not ready yet.
I'm so excited, it's only 29 years away now! Really!
Really? With all the debunking videos you posted (ie Solar roadways) I think you would be the first to see this is impractical for anything except making Gen IV nuclear weapons.
@@guytech7310 im pretty sure he is just being sarcastic with the fact of what they had been saying since the 50s: "we are only 30 years away from nuclear fusion"
@@guytech7310 You missed the sarcasm. It's been a running joke for more than half a century that fusion "is only 10/20/30 years away now". Every year, every decade it gets repeated.
For the record, I think fusion research is important.
@@EEVblog OK, Sorry for the mistake. My apologies, I guess if you said its only 29 years away, I would have picked up on the sarcasm.
@@guytech7310 Ok, that's a better joke, I'm editing my comment :->
One of the interesting take sways from the report is that the power output couldn’t be precisely measured because some of the monitoring equipment was melted.
That's how high temperature _is_ measured. There are numbered "cones" in a kiln and you put in the one that melts at the temperature you're trying to reach.
Sure augurs well for harvesting and transmitting that energy, doesn't it?
@@JohnDlugosz
In this case that failed to a certain extent or they wouldn’t have commented on it as an issue with collecting data.
@@dsnodgrass4843 At the end of the day, it tends to all boil down to turning steam turbines, anyway.
@@WayneBorean Agreed. That comment was not there to suggest everything was normal. It was to suggest otherwise. The measurement equipment that wasn't supposed to melt, MELTED. That should make everyone a little uncomfortable. I've already lived a long life but there are a ton of people on this planet that have not yet. If they fire something like this up and goes instant "China syndrome" that's it... all over....we're done. Or....we'll create a black hole on the planet that might serves as a wormhole. It'll probably be too late for humanity to get into something and get somewhere in one piece but anyway...
Being able to control fusion has been the concern of people that don't know much about the science. I suspect they'll be able to control it. And assuming they do, the cost of electricity won't go down a bit! That's never gonna happen! Way back in the beginning of nuclear energy they said it would make electricity "cheaper than water". And they did...by raising the price of water. I'd like to see everything powered by something that doesn't cause any pollutants. I'm not holding my breath on that one but it would be nice. Even this wouldn't do that. There's be some amount of toxic waste or some pollution in the manufacturing of the fuel or the reactors or something. There will be something for the environmentalists to complain about long into the next millennium. LOL But if they find a clean way to run everything and still be able to have a little fun on our motorbikes and old cars etc...that would be great.
Thanks Anton, looking forward to an update based on today's announced breakthrough!
This is amazing. 😀 Thanks for the clear explanation. 🙏
Scientists have been trying to do this for as long as I can remember (and I'm 71 😊)
Bet when you first heard about it, you probably thought it would be done in a few years given the technology advances we’ve achieved in that time.
@@wildgrem I'd guess no one thought it was coming all that quick, from my folks it seemed like it sounded like science fiction back then too
I love how you cover a bit of everything but dont overstate things. You invoke our interests in the best way.
We are all here at this insane moment but no one seems to realise. Think back to a 1960's television and try and imagine something like youtube or a multiplayer video game - it's imaginable but obviously not really possible. We are at the same point. The pellets are the equivalent to the massive cost of a building sized computer in the 1960's; this time around is different. Energy will eventually be free, with this comes the entire spectrum of good and bad. Everything you ever wanted will be possible, all desires met - but at the same time there will be no reason to get out of bed in the morning, and humans will end up having no purpose. *Unlimited* energy will change every single thing imaginable. Imagine computers that can run gogillions of bits of information a second that can simulate the perfect type of everything you need - instant food, instant transportation. We will lose ourselves in the process, and I strongly believe it will happen before we die. The issue with this is that we tend to be biased towards our current technology. Imagine a completely perfected and personalised education system. Who controls what decisions will be made when the computers tell us which politician is the most morally correct/corrupt? Now come on, having our brains be uploaded to the *net* or have healthcare prevent death in the future isn't too far fetched, right? What happens when the bad people don't die? But then again, the simulations will be able to provide the perfect answer for all of this. But some contradictions wont be stoppable. should we allow anyone over the old average age of death to control anything, or even speak to anyone under 80 to not allow any sort of unwanted interference occur? Now if you've read this far respect, and you could probably question some of what I said, but i know one thing for sure, is that we are in an insane transitional period at the beginning of something amazing or incredibly tragic, but whatever prevails will be on the extreme side of the spectrum. If we discover a technology that instantly wipes us out, we would be dead before we ever even knew, and so discovering it would be impossible (I'm kinda referencing to murphys law with an easy to understand example). I have sort of a theory where if energy cannot be created nor destroyed, and time is infinite, then there is an infinite or 100% possibility that even if we do end up dying, the timeline where we become alive again will eventually happen again, but due to how specific it needs to be for us to be us, we will end up living the exact same lives forever, as if I have typed this same message long long ago. I do have some internal conflict with this however. If you think of the amount of species there are on earth and the completely unknown chances of us being here, how in the actual fuck am i the most intelligent species (almost like the fermi paradox but for ourselves). PBS spacetime did a great video on this, as maybe the way we become *alive* is something that reduces this possibility, because comparing the possibility of being the matter of a human out of all of the matter in the universe is so incomprehensible it really shouldn't be possible, but somehow it really fucking is. Really fucking think about that for a second, because it kind of is true, you are actually living matter over non living matter. How insane is that if you look at the sky and see all of the rest of it. There IS something else guiding us, and I believe our human bias isn't built to understand that, and the one thing that doesn't have these parameters is the technology we are creating right before your eyes. And guess what, you are one minuscule percentage of the 100 billion humans that ever lived to actually even be interested in it enough to watch a video like this. Really think about that. Thanks for coming to my ted talk, and i hope you enjoy this message my future children and future great grandchildren. Now come on, how close was i to being correct my year 3289 buddies? There is simply no purpose in life itself at a fundamental level, there is no reason for all of this, and most of us are sat at home completely blinded to the true nature of reality. But we are here, we for some reason enjoy music, for some reason have a reason to keep going, for some reason, at a point in history that is so incomprehensibly rare and unfathomable but we accept it as normality. Everything is changing, and nothing will ever be the same. And if you ever think something I said isn't possible, just think about how people even 500 years ago would think about me typing a message on an *electronic* device. Time moves fast, and we are progressing at an exponential level (emphasis on exponential). What are the implications for torturing an intelligent simulation?
THIS!
@@Rhys5945 Damn, I thought I was the only one who sometimes puts out Ted Kazinski length manifestos on a subject. 😲
However, as much as I admire you verbosity, though you spectacularly ignore punctuation and paragraph spacing, I must slightly disagree.
While immortality might at some point become something of a burden, an extended lifetime would not, in my opinion.
There are projects that I would undertake, but at 70, I doubt I could see them to fruition, as lifespans now stand. However, had I more decades to devote to my endeavors, that would be desirable.
While I recognize that burn out might be an unwanted companion in a 500-1000 year lifespan for some, I'm sure something like self immolation would become culturally acceptable. We always find ways to deal with such trivialities.
And for Heaven's sake, never restrict the conversations between the young and inexperienced, and the old and jaded. We each have gifts for the other. Historically, our shorter lived ancestors are the reason evolution took so damned long.
The "old", the 35-50 age group during most of our prehistory, lacked their own adequate experiences (time) to be of real a advantage to their offspring. Therefore fire, the bow, the wheel, took 100ks of years for each to develope. At that point, a "man" of 15 only had 10-15, maybe 20 years to learn, before he died. Not much of an accumulation span.
(There were few grandfather's to tell tales around a fire about how they saw, in their youth, trees rolling down a hill, and a child at that fire imagining how it would be to ride atop such a thing, faster than a cave bear could run. The young need the old, even if they hate to admit it.)
The world is always ending, and begining. Every day, someone dies, someone is born. This won't change, only the time in between for both events. As a baby bird stretches it's wings once free of the shell, so too will humanity flex to new perimeters.
Yes, this is an insane moment in the story of our species. A moment pregnant with possibilities. Some could lead to heaven, some could lead to hell. Such is the way of Homo Sapien Sapien.
So cheer up, all is not lost. Life is change. For 70 years I have watched it go by, always the same, always different. Trust me, you will do the same. I hope you have more time from your need for "purposes," to just swim in life. Come on in, the water's fine.
Exactly. I thought I’d watch the first three minutes of this video until I got bored. After watching the entire thing, I’m truly intrigued.
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@@JohnSmith-ft2tw good read man! I was kind of just blurting out my thoughts - if it were a college paper I may have tried better on my grammar and formation. I do believe at my age I’m biased towards a more stressful view of society. Information, knowledge and skill is catching on a whole damn lot quicker than before and the newer generations of people will be even more sophisticated than us. Our natural reliance on religion brings us all together in some form. I agree with you man, have a good one
I have to correct you slightly, Anton. "Ignition" in fusion terms means the fusion reaction is strong and hot enough to be self-sustaining once the driver (such as the laser) has turned off. It's _not_ the point where the amount of energy from the fusion reaction is the same as the drive energy: that is known as "break-even". Even that is not enough to make a power plant, because it's also necessary to overcome the losses in powering the laser from the power grid. Livermore's achievement is impressive, nonetheless, and clearly a step in the right direction.
Not saying you're wrong, but that's a very dumb definition for 'ignition'. Ignition means 'lighting up', the very starting act, so 'ignition' should surely mean **the starting of** the reaction.. regardless of whether it's self-sustaining or not. e.g. if you ignite a fire, the ignition happened regardless of whether the fire lasts for 20s or 5 days.. Because if you think about it, you then have to set a criteria for 'self-sustaining', because if the reactor goes out after 3 days, you're literally sitting around until then watching a burning reaction, and wondering, 'has it ignited?', which is clearly illogical. And on top of that, you could argue that 'self-sustaining' is literally impossible, since you need to keep feeding it hydrogen fuel to keep it going.. in which case it will *eventually* die out without human intervention, and therefore precisely not "self-sustaining", in physical terms. A technicality we can ignore in practice, I suppose.
Again, not saying this is not how the term is used in fusion context, but I guess not all nuclear scientists are also competent linguists hehe.
He said "way more" though, not "the same"
@@nowandrew4442 english language is a stepchild language anyways. I only care about the context of the word. The only time I use ignition in a sentence is about R Kelly
@@nowandrew4442 You completely missed what he was talking about and dove headfirst into olympic level pedantry.
Let's stick with your analogy. If a blowtorch is put to a log and the log stays on fire after the blowtorch is removed, then the log has been ignited. It doesn't matter that the log will eventually go out one way or another.
Now let's imagine a different log. The same blowtorch is applied, but instead of catching fire, the log is merely charred and incandesces a little under the torch's flame. This log has been burned some, but it never ignited.
In the right direction to produce more radioactive pollution of Earth and expensive electricity.
You cover such a wide array of topics in such a clear and interesting manner - I'm so glad I found your channel! Thank you, Anton :)
You know an H-Bomb is big and badass when it requires an Atomic Bomb to get it going!
Thank you Edward Teller!
"Not to be confused with fishing..."
Dad joke, to the max!
I lold at how his accent went away for that joke and he kept a straight face.
I haven't gotten there yet. But I think we should get a Bass, Drum, and Shiner and start a band.
Lol it made me do a double take when I heard it, didn't expect Anton to pull that one on us
Fishing energy is the real clean energy they don't want you to know about
@@ryanb9749 I play bass guitar. lol and have an acoustic stringer. its a rock fisher.
I had read that there had been some sort of breakthrough in nuclear fusion, but I wanted to wait for Anton to explain it before getting too excited.
If it was a "breakthrough," it wasn't exactly the kind of breakthrough that generates much more power than they put into it. Almost as much energy doesn't begin to cut the mustard.
Same here. Media sensationalism is rampant. It is much better to hear it from a level headed person.
Did he mention it in the video? All I heard was a re-cap of the fact that Inertial Confinement exists. What even is this vide lol
@@fnamelname9077 I'm 6 minutes into the video, still waiting to hear the news :/
_"Excuse me, sir! We are looking for Nuclear Wessel !"_
[...stranded time travelers show-up in the darndest places...]
Sir....it is the Enterprise.
@@icecold9511 has it
Imagine having to go back THAT far in time... just to pick up a couple whales because some alien civilization decided to be random as fuck and try and talk to what (may be remembering incorrectly) have been extinct for a VERY long time. Let's just quickly drove around the sun.
I forget did Shatners star trek have the same prime directive? Because wouldn't taking a woman from the 80s, thousands of years in the future kind of violate that?
@@thisistheescapeplan
About 3-400 years, and yeah, a temporal no no
@@icecold9511 fuck. Was star trek really only supposed to be like... 2500? I was thinking it was waaaaaaayyyyyyyy in the future lol. Granted it's been like 20 years since I've watched any of the original movies, and memory is a fuckle thing
This was actually a very informative clip which stayed close to facts without any unnecessary intros, side stories or chit chat. Please keep up this format - it is good! :-)
Ok anton, we love you.
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“Fission, not to be confused with fishin.”
Congrats to you and your wife on your pregnancy, Anton!
And he hasn't gained a pound yet!!! 😂 I love how English is almost meant to leave a loophole for meaning.
I did not know this. How wonderful for the wonderful couple!
@@lindaseel8633 💀
@@JohnSmith-ft2tw Both our greatest strength and greatest weakness!
Yes congratulations wonderful Anton and his wonderful wife, good for you. Thanks for the videos.
“Fission. Not to be confused with fishing” lmao I’m dead 😂❤️
it is a breakthrough in fishing mate LOL!!!
its a joke from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles animated series..........Shredder sends Rocksteady and BeeBop to a nuclear fission plant to steal plutonium..........instead they go to a Fishing plant.
@@wazza33racer nice!!
We tried nuclear fishin' once. Now bikini's are in fashion. Or maybe that just atoll tale.
@@ColonelSandersLite wow that’s punderful!! 🤩
I read about this project a while ago, it makes me almost hopeful for humanity. Great to have it so comprehensively explained.
If there is a giant breakthrough by one country, they will try to take over the world. Sleep tight!
i met the guys that run the fusion reactor at lawrence livermore national laboratory, and it was fascinating to learn how they use powerful lasers to cause shockwaves to build in a material, generating tremendous forces. they have to use special crucibles though, so they are kind of one-shot deals and not a continuous flow. every single one of those lasers have to match in length so that the waveforms match at the same point. so not only do you have to aim it just right, you have to make sure the distance each laser travels is equivalent
is the pulse wave built up by using any Tesla based equations ?
How'd you meet them? I imagine its all real high security. Too bad, since I'd love to visit those places like CERN and feel like Gordon Freeman at black mesa.
@@AzzySunfire I was taking a laser and photonics course at a local community college. Lawrence Livermore sent 3 guys to our school to deliver a presentation and do recruiting for this very lab.
Yes, security clearance is required to work there, and those guys were obviously very restricted in what they could tell us
thank you for this video. i particularly liked how you stressed the importance of the research while also being realistic about how much more has to be done in order for us to have a fusion-based economy. its good to remind people that there are still many places in the world where even an electrical grid is yet to come.
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@@jordan.fa5592 Cartoons lol
@@jordan.fa5592 😂
I love your channel and always follow up reading the materials posted. You are truly an endless well my man thanks
Notice that when something new is discovered a weapon is made first then other uses are found.
So....you’re saying the Kung-flu is a weapon?
If anyone watched The Expanse, the fusion reactors in that show uses pellets that are hit with lasers. These fusion reactors power entire ships 300 years into the future.
The Epstein Drive is one of the pieces of science fiction in the series. It is shown to be much much more efficient than any currently proposed fusion drive. Some older ships are described as having "fusion drives" which don't have nearly the same efficiency or acceleration potential.
😂and Babylon 5 😂 .
@jack bell The Epstein Drive needs constant supervision or it tends to self-destruct, allegedly.
Remember: That is fiction based on speculation, speculative fiction, as it has been coined.
@jack bell a lamb joke, baaaaad.
My cat always perks up and comes closer to the computer when she hears Anton Petrov talking.
xD
That's because cats have the ability to sense wonderful people.
I guess his voice has a calming tone to it like a cats pur, lol
@@laikkelynneross2800 That hypothesis does explain the observed facts quite well!
She is a wonderful purrson.
I actually worked at General Atomics for a few years assembling the targets for inertial fusion and a bunch of other research they use those giant lasers for. it was a fascinating job, although extremely frustrating. As he mentioned, the level of precision required to make these things work is staggering, and you can easily ruin parts in the final stages of production which could represent months of work! still one of the coolest projects I have been a part of, and if there is ever a working reactor, I can say I had a small hand in it's development, which is pretty cool
Must have taught you to have the patience of Mahatma Gandhi.
Now we can start saying Fusion Energy is just 10 years away.
yeah its definitely more
“Not to be confused with fishing”🤣 And saying that with a straight face 😅 haha made my day 😂
honestly wasn't funny or even entertaining when he said that
@@chronicawareness9986 sour sally!
fishin ....
@@chronicawareness9986 what is your problem with him
Eat less sourekraut.
“The power of the sun in the palm of my hand.”
Otto Octavius from Spider-Man 2 apparently had it figured out way back in 2002, if only he didn’t fry his inhibitor chip and turn into an octopus themed mechanical maniac.
The "power of the sun" is not fusion, it is quark plasma. Fusion is happening on the surface. Fusion will never be realized as a power source as we have seen over many decades. The explanation is above.
Yeah you know how those things go.
Now I can only imagine btw some of these nuclear fission scientists to be octopus themed mechanical maniacs. 🤣
ha ha ha ha !!!...Art imitating life, imitating Art!!
Hello Peter.
Can you imagine they finally break the barrier and its like 10w above it?
"Yeah we have this multi billion nuclear fusion energy generator."
"How much does it make?"
"10w my friend but its a special 10w."
The real metric is profitability. Energy production that is not profitable is extremely useless.
@@matthiasdebernardini3388 profitable energy sources are currently causing catastrophic climate change
@@Apodeipnon they just dont factor that shit in... But hey thats capitalism privatise The Profits and let Society pay for the undesired shit
@@MrDasfried Yeah, coz Communism is so much more successful... idiot.
@@malcolm_in_the_middle there both just as bad as each other tbh
Another great job dumbing it down. Thank you. You have a great channel my friend. I always enjoy your videos.
One of the best things I've ever done for my brain is subscribe to your channel, Anton. You are an A+ rockstar science communicator, and I thank you for your wonderful, informative work.
I bet fusion is “just a decade away” 😂😂 Thanks for the update, Anton! By the way, YOU’RE a wonderful person.
7 decades now, maybe the next 1😉 couldn't imagine pouring my whole life into a problem n failing to get it done. These people's drive is admirable
@@joshlewis575
It took us thousands of years to invent the Steam engine powerful enough to change our society, it only took us 200 years to invent the computer from there, and only 100 years to get from then to now. Progress is rapid, far more then its ever been, society moved very slow in the past, today its going too fast for our own good.
Its kind of a running joke... Its always a decade away xD You re a wonderful person too ;)
@@SMGJohn It took us thousands of years to invent algebra, only hundreds to invent calculus, and from there only 100 years to prove the Poincaré conjecture. I bet the last digits of π are just a decade away.
a decade away from a decade away
Anton you are always fairly straight forward… the Fishing got me 🤣🤣
Thank you wonderful person for giving hope to all of us
Oh damn I hadn’t even heard of that achievement yet. I’d been so focused on ITER lately I almost forgot about the National Ignition Facility. Glad to hear they’re still making breakthroughs though. In a production reactor I wonder if they could set up some lower powered lasers as optical tweezers to guide the pellets into just the right position when they drop.
Oh on a side note one minor correction. In magnetic confinement reactors like ITER the temperatures do get much hotter than the center of the sun. But they run at significantly lower pressures. From what I can find the current record for pressure inside a tokamak was set by the C-MOD reactor at just above 2 atmospheres. ITER is expected to reach about 2.6 atmospheres. And the center of the sun is somewhere around 100 billion times higher than that.
I was thinking they could use acoustic levitation for that, but the pressure increase due to the reaction would make it hard to implement
@@mikelord93 An interesting thought. I wonder how the plasma would affect the sound waves
@@CommanderHuggins would probably blow them away
I love the smile at the end of all of your videos, they almost always go on for .5 seconds too long and it's enough to make me smile.
I watch them all, but dont reach the end of any. You just reminded me why.
Great coverage on this topic matter. Keep up the great work!
This guy has a special gift. It takes a long time to gain expertise in such an esoteric discipline. It takes a long time to understand it well enough to explain it to us laymen without extensive information loss. I feel like he does that. I wish he would have given an example of 1.6 mega joules, but I guess I have some inkling from introductory physics.
OK, I'm 11 seconds in and by the end of the video, I expect to see fusion is ten years away as its been all my adult life, and I'm a scientist ages 53!
I came here to say the same thing. It'll be 10 years away forever.
"Fusion is just 30 years away" and always will be
10 already? used to be 30 when I was young... Seems the meme is almost dead. :(
@@MrMichiel1983 -The difference between the current date and “practical fusion date” is asymptotically approaching zero… very, very slowly!
25x improvement in output, up to 70% of break even energy, all in 3 years?
I mean, I'm impressed. It's definitely still 20-30 years away from a plant being built for commercial generation, but this might be the last decade that remains true.
During high school I had an internship with General Atomics and got to tour the DIII-D reactor that is often used for research by the company and local universities. The complexity of that facility was awe inspiring! Blew my mind as a 15 year old kid and still does.
Now, of course, as an adult you realize that complexity is bad with dangerous things, and in itself creates risk.
@@Rep0007 as with all things in life… your point??
@@Rep0007 planes are very complex machines and so are rockets. Isn't exactly an argument against them. What matters is how reliable are those complex machines.
@@jarretta2656 My point is that nuclear power is too complex for commercial operation and maintenance by bored staff some of whom are always poorly trained or inattentive. Cause the stakes are too high. We need to shut down all civilian nuclear plants -- before they shut *us* down.
@@Rep0007 So, you are saying that gen 4 nuclear plants are _more_ unsafe for us (and the environment) than Fossil fuels? Do you even know how many people die in that industry? Do you even know the design safety of g4 reactors? That it's not even _theoretically_ possible to blow? That they have walk away safety? Don't blindly listen to haters. Do research.
very interesting! “Fission. Not to be confused with fishing” made me smile today :) lol
Nice upgrade on the graphics. Carries the story nicely. Well done.
I’ve had the pleasure of taking a tour of NIF. Amazing facility.
Whatever.
Far too much cluelessness going on. Lawrence Livermore does whatever it wants because "scientists" can be major egomaniacs and egomaniacs don't really care about the consequences of their actions. And pretty much everyone just goes along with this.
Egomaniacs are going for the endorphin/dopamine/whatever rush kickbacks their egomania gives them. They're drug addicts.
Using the laser to see if they can create a black hole... an immediate giveaway how much the egomaniac drug addicts they truly are.
Once a stable black hole is created, it can't be uncreated. And now the most nightmare of nightmares has just begun.
I have mixed feelings. It feels so promising…yet I worked on it at LBL 30 yrs ago when we said it was “30 yrs away”…which is what I hear scientists now suggesting as a timeline … except in 2021. 😳😬
@@satanofficial3902 Wait, can this whole lazer thing make a black hole?
Very cool! But I am afraid that scaling the process up to a commercial level will be a serious engineering hurdle even once positive energy is released. But every step is a step forward.
Everything has to start from somewhere. The search for practical super-conductors has gone from ultra-cold temps to ultra-high pressures.
I bet once ignition is achieved reliably and consistently then huge amounts of money and effort will be thrown into the effort and make it commercially practical enough to begin construction on plants soon after. The biggest hurdle is achieving ignition because until that point fusion is sorta just a hypothetical.
(Ahem) . . . I.T.E.R. ! Check the progress, it's impressive! 👍⚡🔥
I know it's not inertial confinement with ITER, it's an industrial size proof-of-concept Tokamak, but scaled up. First Fusion is going to be as historic as Neil Armstrong, make no mistake. It will mean the engineers are going in the right direction and commercial fusion will then be viable eventually.
hooray plenty of graft possible here
1:14 Ah yes I was so confused for a second thank goodness for that amazing clarification.
Brilliant! As expected from you friend! (Many Thanks!)
That is just awesome news! Wow! Does this planet ever need some good news! Thank you Anton!
this will just be forgotten like all the other breakthroughs in the past 15 years
Whoever invents fusion first is going to use it to destroy or enslave humanity. Technology is the great filter in the Fermi paradox.
It will be forgotten , but all these breakthroughs will eventually lead to major break through which would change humanities fate forever , this is happens several times in history , several break throughs have ultimately resulted in all the fantastic devices around you , your phone ; the AC , the TV ?
Lmao no , nothing like that is happening 😂
4:37 "THE POWER OF THE SUN, IN THE PALM OF MY HAND"
Thank for another great video, Anton.
I really cannot wait for this!
This channel is the main source of my science knowledge. I feel like you're the "Breaking News" guy for relevant human progress!
I like the idea of a fishin' reactor. I have a large lake on my property that is full of fish. Scientists will have to figure out a way to get the fish to swim into the reactor.
You should open a fission chip shop. 💥🍟💥
It's an English pun. If you are American and don't get the joke, don't worry about it. 😎👍
@@farrier2708 Oh, I get it. And it's good!!
I LOVE fission chips!! I live in Kansas and had a neighbor lady who immigrated from England years before. After her kids were raised she opened a small fish-n-chips shop in the area. It was wildly popular for years and I got " hooked ". 😄
The place was called CHAUNCEY'S FISH-N-CHIPS. Excellent!! She served only one way .....in newspaper fashioned into a cone and the top folded over. Dine in or take away.....no plates. Just newspaper. I stopped in at least once a week.
Electric eels have been swimming along our electricity cables for more than a century so it's not unthinkable
@@farrier2708 curry sauce as hot as the sun
@@alextw1488 No curry. Malt vinegar is best.
Congratulations! How exciting!
Thank you for the update.
Most interesting. This made me recall a physics class in my final year of high school in 1977 where the physics master described these exact same barriers to achieving viable fusion power. He said with some confidence that "...it will probably take another 20 years of research gentlemen to overcome these problems, but they will be solved". Further discussion ensued and there was even a bold prediction that perhaps in another 50 years we will have developed viable matter/anti-matter annihilation power sources! How wrong we were.
We'll never use matter antimatter on earth. Fuel storage is to dangerous.
@@icecold9511 Never mind the cost of producing antimatter. It's like a trillion dollars a gram or something.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 On top of that, this is just assuming you can scale modern methods indefinitely without hickups. Even then, it would take quintillions in infrastructure to scale to levels where you could produce a gram of antimatter using modern technology, assuming ridiculously large colliders are the chosen method. Until the human species is Kardashev I or above, there is no reason to worry about antimatter for energy anyways.
@@jh-wq5qn We will never even make it to Kardashev .5
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Da fuq is that? Gods?
Next? Giant sharks to mount the laser beams on.
Dude.. The graphic for the background at the start of the video. Badass. Great content throughout! Rock on!
I agree that the awesome graphics add a lot to the deceptive description of this nuclear fusion 'breakthrough' from the LLNL nuclear weapons laboratory's NIF which has always been primarily funded as a thermonuclear weapons research tool and has virtually no chance of leading to a viable source of fusion derived electrical energy.
I notice 265 people gave a thumb down to this video? These people are folks I never want to know. The work this man puts forth everyday to produce this complex and fascinating material for all of us is astounding. If you don’t understand what it is you’re hearing and seeing that’s your problem. Anton should be considered a National treasure. I admire him and feel he is as close to a hero as we have today. What he is doing I doubt any of you thumbs down folks couldn’t. Sorry but you are boring.
The read for you patreon was smooth I love "or you can stay awesome" at the ending. Great channel
Today we went from 20 years away to only 19...
I love there was a graphic of a laser that looked like it was burning a dollar when you were talking about achieving ignition.
That is very appropriate since the NIF construction end was much delayed and it came in way over budget. It also failed, by two orders of magnitude, to reach its primary goal of ignition about a decade ago.
The promoters of NIF have always presented it to the public as a practical path to a fusion energy power plant. What they don't say is even more important. The vast majority of fusion researches agree this is not a very favorable approach. Worst still, NIF is now and always has been primarily funded as a thermonuclear weapons research tool by Congress.
1:16 thanks for the clarification!
This is now my go-to channel when I open RUclips. Thank you Anton 👍
Thank you for continuing to put out interesting and important content in a way we all enjoy.
Keep up the amazing work because we love it!
✌️
Haven’t seen you in a while old friend and scholar of my favorite subject Anton the Great !
I always liked the laser idea ever since I saw it in the Spiderman movie but never really understood how they expected to extract the energy or refuel it once its going vs the Tokamak reactor. I think the best part is we know it works because its what stars are doing so its not some nearly impossible thing beyond physics like trying to go FTL with our current understanding.
“It’s a brand… nuclear day. Perfect for going… fission.”
I sea what chew did there!!👁👁
The dad jokes
This is a VERY bad dad joke!!!
You spend too much time on jokes,
Please half (a) life.
" Mornin' ! Great day for fission ain't it? h-huh"
Thank you for your constant work, Anton! Just awesome news every day
Thanks Anton. 😊 have a good day
These lasers sound like a thought experiment I once did. You could use these to accelerate an interplanetary "torchship" if you amplify them to produce gamma rays, not just X-rays. Of course, I was also assuming the energy source was a fusion reaction. This is the path to flying around the solar system the way we travel the world today.
Fun fact, Star Trek into darkness was partially filmed at the National Ignition Facility
thats some deep nerdness, love it.
This one was very exciting. Love your videos, and I wear my Wonderful Person shirt with pride. Thanks again Anton!
Thanks for the teaser
Combine the 2, have a torrid that is ignited with the pellets lazer technique. Although Hydrogen doesn't chain react like Uranium
Thank you Anton for bringing me along
fishing....fission..... It's good to have a sense of humor when you talk about the coming advent of fusion reactors.
Grad school is full of esoteric ROFLing.
time the laser to create a shock wave in the pellet, amplifying the energy put in by the laser's.
Unless it can be timed so that each laser fires at he exact same location at the same time.
Accuracy if not perfect or can not be achieved this accurate, then use timing of the lasers to amplify the energy waves.
Firing multiple lasers into an object creates shock waves when fired at less then equal times, creating a interference pattern that cancels out 30% of the energy used.
Just like the double slit experiment shows.
Its all in the timing.
Want to start an engine, better have the timing correct.
For ignition you need:
Fuel, check. (Pellets) gasoline or diesel could be a correlation.
Containment, check. Electromagnetic. (also could be called compression)
spark, check. (lasers)
if all these things are correct then the only thing left is timing.
I bet you time that engine and she'll run for ya.
I think when timing is correct she should put out about 5.0 GV.
Not bad.
Play with the timing a bit, put it on a dyno and bet ya get 5.2GV or so.
Plug it into the power grid and FULL SEND it.
HELL YEAH BROTHER! science.
..er, salts.
I work at Lawrence Livermore where this happened. This is exciting news for us.
no matter how bad the world gets, you give me hope that it will keep spinning working towards a nice future
So, cool. I guess this means fusion power is just 20 more years away.
It will always be just 20 years away.
It was 20 years away 40 years ago too.
There are a few tocamak reactors that are in construction that could reach ignition
It’s always about to happen until I get to ignition then unless other things go wrong it is truly twenty years from being commercial
No, only ten more years away!! (Then ten more)
@@notdeaded1416 And 60 too.
This is so interesting, whether commercial use for this technology is possible or not, this is a huge scientific breakthrough
Huge ? I don't know... I mean... there is no theoretical breakthrough after all, but a technical one through the advancement of tech's precision and efficiency...
So, the goal is to reach better alignement and less energy consumption.
This is a race against ourselves, as a reduction in CO2 emissions means an economical contraction, and focusing our efforts toward fusion means focusing on maintaining and encouraging industries using the high tech used by these fusion experiments (lasers, magnets, miniaturization, power efficiency, etc). But encouraging these industries means at the very least maintaining that CO2 pressure which is very detrimental. Will we reach fusion (if ever ? who knows) before ruining so much our habitat that is is mostly inhabitable and barely able to sustain very basic tech like agriculture due to the frequency of climatic events preventing crops to live long enough for us to harvest ?
Tough bet...
Note that the national ignition facility works on nuclear weapons research, not energy production research...
appreciate your efforts bro!
I really love your videos! thank you for sharing your efforts and expertise, we are grateful!
Great content as always, you LEGEND!
Thanks, Anton.
I wonder if in however many years, it'll be amazing that we could walk inside a reactor as we progress to further shrinking down technology
Brilliantly explained Thankyou.
Weird, i was just wondering about progress on fusion yesterday, and you deliver today!
Great video, thanks. Good to see them making some nice progress on the ignition front. Its been a few years now but I used to machine those GDP capsules in a prior role.
Incredibly well presented. I am a uni professor. I cannot present anywhere near as well as you. I am envious! Well done!
Thank you, Anthon.
I am your fan now.
Thanks for also covering the remaining issues of this, haven’t seen a any other coverage that presented the remaining obstacles. Yes, it’s an important advance in the research, and for that the people involved should be congratulated and be excited for the progress. But as another commenter mentioned, now we’re only 29 years away from a workable fusion reactor.
Anton keeps it real. It really makes you appreciate how brutally hard and near impossible this stuff is to pull off.
Seems like they're barking up the wrong tree.
@@drivethrupoet definitely a possibility. I suspect they are, particularly with the encapsulated hydrogen pellet, don’t see that approach going anywhere. However,, there might be some useful results from the research, particularly the laser pulse technology needed. Pure research can lead to unexpected discoveries that have nothing to do with the thing they were researching.
Where do we start investing our money now?
Yeah we've been "20 years from workable fusion" every year for the last 40 years.
Content so good i show up 29 seconds after the upload :)
Excellent. I learn much from the comments, which are mini discussions.
I wonder if ignition could ever be achieved (I know this sounds crazy) somewhat like a diesel engine? The lasers initiate the reaction, then once extreme pressure and temperature is initiated, pellets or whatever are fed in to keep it going?
I was wondering when you were gonna post a video on this so I can better understand this! Thank you, Anton.
8:30 "And so, to kind of cheat and also make things easier..."
Classic Anton!
Always good sh**t. Thank you Mr. Petrov!