This is WHY Multiversus Died!
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025
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Why do you think Multiversus Died? What Characters or Skins Did you Want to See in this Game?
It’s cool that the last characters are Aquaman and Lola but it’s sad that we’ll never be getting Daffy or Ben 10 or anyone else
I wanted to see Ruby but bc of wb they ruined that for me and they did the same thing to rooster teeth
Because of Suicide squad killed the justice league
@BlakeBelladonna-r5l are you sure about that
Great video Luke amazing
Multiversus definitely had a lot of potential sad that it’s shutting down
"Such wasted potential."
- Sub-Zero
Here's my take an an indie dev here.
Live services are just a theoretical idea with no proof of it working, only the marketing side makes it look plausible. Not a single game with that subscription mentality has lasted, which is not as recent as people imagined, this goes as far as FusionFall, started free, it had a subscription later, then they re made the intro story to renew the hype, which didn't work. And that game started in 2009 and shot down servers in 2013, it's by no means a new idea.
If they would have just kept the passion the devs had without trying to milk every cent, the game would have done a lot better. Just make the game 20 bucks, have a season pass to buy content quicker at a better price than the characters and skins would be individually and then you are onto something, but no, WB did what they do best and just wanted every cent they could get. Not a small margin of earnings, they wanted every player to pay enough for ten players.
Last thing, totally agreeing with you Kwing here, WB has no idea of what fans want, they desperately need a control group, they could have literally used the beta to test reactions and see what fans liked more. It's hilariously dumb how all they had to do was build a community, had people vote on the characters or series they'd like to see more of (from what they were allowed to put in game) and just make sure to give fans something they enjoy, instead of just tossing some random assassin woman I don't even know who she is, seriously, I don't even know the character, which proves the point, WB just cares for the quick cash and not to make a good product worth the money of the fans.
Man, bringing up FusionFall...I loved that game with a passion. The art, gameplay, story, everything. I'm still sad that it got shut down and it never really got a proper sequel post-Adventure Time and the like.
It's genuinely baffling to me how many businesses can't seem to comprehend the concept of "people will pay you money if you give them something that's worth the money you're asking for"... All the effort they're putting into figuring out how to get as much money as possible in exchange for as little value as possible... If they put all that effort into giving more value to the customer, they'd get so much more money!
We don't talk about Fortnite that's some special case that should be studied
@ It's not a WB game, nor is it owned by Sony, it's under control of the creators and that's why it works, it makes players want to see more of it.
@ There are still way to play it, OpenFusion is still active. I just keep it in the back of my head regularly because one day I want to recreate that kind of game.
But yeah, sadly it's another game with WB properties that didn't last.
With Aquaman and Lola being
the last two, the game
should've continued.
what?
Lost opportunity....play Shaggy to unlock Scooby Doo...play Velma to unlock Daphne, who is more athletic.... play Bugs to unlock Daffy
What a heartbreaking Multiversus tale filled with ups and downs
It would've been great to see more of an offline achievement or story mode like smash brothers had. And the amount of characters that they brought in that people weren't interested in wasn't good. I didn't like the random glow in the dark or magic school inspired skins either. I also could have done without Reindog tbh Jason was an interesting addition but but Nubia, Stripe, Steven Universe and some others weren't as popular. As a WB fan I would have liked to see Daffy Duck, Cyborg, Static Shock, a harry potter character people actually liked like Hagred or Snape and maybe some more DC heroes like Green Lantern Vixen, Mr. Terrific, Black Canary, Robin or Nightwing and I think Bane would have been a fun addition or soe other fun DC villain like Mr Freeze. Great video Kwing! Absolutely loved it Thanks for makimg great content for us for so many years. You guys are the best. Peace
I agree with a lot of what you said Kwing. This game died because there were too many skins nobody cared about and they kept adding in characters people only slightly wanted or were interested in. With the rifts being super grindy and annoying and there being not a lot to do with this game offline, in the end a smash killer, it was not.
This game had a lot of potential, but they didn't listen to what the fans wanted. Including Nubia as a character is a prime example. Plenty of other fan favorites; like Daffy Duck, Scooby-Doo, and Ben 10; were being left out, but a DC character who is more obscure than the Polka-Dot Man gets added to the game. The beta was also more fun than the actual release, which caused a lot of people to stop playing last May. It's a shame it died, proving that WB has no idea what they're doing with their games.
I agree it’s embarrassing they wasted a character slot for Nubia instead of Ben 10 or even any regular show
They really should add everything else that was ready like aquaman and Lola bunny
Out of all the characters I wanted to see in Multiversus was Mordecai and Rigby from Regular Show so that they could fight along or against Finn and Jake since they were popular on Cartoon Network around 2010
Thanks so much for the video and for your hard work honey. As a DC girl I am devastated about Multiversus closing. I feel like some of the characters and skins they added people were not as familiar with or were not as interested in as others. Just like when disney infinity printed hundreds of copies of Ronan the Accusor that just no one wanted, it really led to the downfall of that game too. Great video Luke love you sweetheart❤
That's too bad. I really enjoyed watching the Multiversus livestreams. I agree that skins people are not interested in and characters not many people know definitely contributed to the games downfall.
It was a very well made smash clone .. rip
If one good thing is gonna come out of this, it's another nail in the coffin for live-service games.
I'm not someone who has played this game nor do I care for it. I do know that Mr. Luke and Ms. Amber enjoyed this game, so I'm not going to rain over their parade about the game. I do know the feeling that a game not being available anymore due to the lack of interest or lose money on making a game (think Mario & Luigi: Dream Team because while it is popular the game itself lost money from making it) which has made me feel sad for a time the same way how people are sad to see Multiversus gone.
Thank you for the good Multiversus video Luke also I really wanted to see Ben 10 and Scooby-Doo join the game too! 😊😎👍
It's a shame, multiversus had some promise but WB just sucks lol
I thinkNubia is really pretty and a cool fighter but I didn't know who she was before I had to look her up but the same with Marceline. I know Flame Princess but not Marceline too well. Maybe sticking with characters that everyone knows like Daffy Duck would have helped WB sell more characters IDK?
If they listened to the community, this game would survive much longer, like Marvel Rivals. That game is a cash cow
Sad for MultiVersus to go, especially for those who enjoyed the game. I'll just say if characters as *_obviously fitting_* like Daffy Duck were included, or even fan-favorite M/R-rated reps like Scorpion from MK were added, and added at the best times financially, it would've gone a long way for the game.
To hear that some desired characters like Daffy and Gumball were not only considered, but even started development, just to be shelved for movie tie-in characters breaks my heart. I like Beetlejuice so I'm not as upset by his inclusion, but wow, MultiVersus had the worst management I've ever seen for a live service game
I feel bad the game is gone.
I wish we could’ve gotten Robin Starfire and Terra before the end. Starfire would have a blackfire and 80’s skins and Robin and Terra would have apprentice and Red X skins
I wanted to see Ruby, wizard of oz characters and daffy duck in the game. Maybe black canary vixen and hermoine too also more dc characters like cyborg & starfire.
Let's be honest here, beetle juice, nubia, marceline, banana guard, gizmo, stripe just a buncj of characters no one cares about so what is the point of working with wb's ips?
Imagine if we could have had harry potter, gandalf, legolas, frodo those are much more well liked and prominent characters.
How come scooby doo isn’t in a WB fighting game is disappointing, i really love scooby wish he was in the game
Why can't they just change the price on multiverses and make it 1999 or $60
Multiversus has so much potential for sure. I do agree that they should add characters people actually know like Scorpion and Sub-Zero. The recolors or color pallets should have been free, or way cheaper since they're only recolors of their default skins. They should have added challenges to unlock them, and also make cooler skins to purchase and occasional events to unlock 1 or 2 unique skins for free. They became so greedy, even with purchasing lives for Rifts. I feel with season 5, this is where the game should have been for the relaunch. They should have postponed the release for this year, that way, we get a better game. It really sucks that this is the last season. Who knows, maybe they make a Multiversus 2 and actually give us what we wanted since the beginning.
Multiversus had 19 charevturs ready to be added, btw... thay where the modt wanted and popular charecturs like mordicai and rigby gumball courage and more
I believe it
they should have done poles to see what fans wanted both nick asb and multiversus both failed at this. hopefully something good can come out of this
I really have to wonder did WB / PFG seriously think players wanted to play as Banana Guard over a member of the justice league or one of the looney toons.
They fr added BANANA GUARD over someone like Ice King wtf was this development team on man
What really got me to start seeing the red flags was the inclusion of Banana Gaurd. It was a weird and confusing choice that had no place as one of the first characters to come in after the game's hiatus before any other more prominent Adventure Time characters.
Hey kwings do yall have Sonic adventure 1 & 2 Shadow the hedgehog & sonic riders on Ps2 & game cube
Never played. Here comes the fomo.
For me it was the gameplay changes from the beta, the game got slower and more floaty in other words just got boring to play. The original "perks" system got butchered.
The second offender was how grindy the battle pass became, I invested time and completed every mission but that wasnt enough to complete the battle pass, at max you could complete 50% of that thing.
And the third offender was the character additions, it was always a hit or miss thing, but with so many popular characters under the WB umbrella it should have been banger after banger.
Hi good video kwing
To be honest, I am glad it is shutting down. Especially when Warner Bros. is basically still in financial debt.
Nubia getting in over Daffy is sheer MADNESS!!!!
They really had no idea how to add in actual fan favorite characters a lot of the time. The fact they didn’t add Ben 10 at all is still insane to me. Also adding Lola before Daffy Duck and ESPECIALLY NUBIA shows a massive lack of awareness to me.
They had to be stupid adding Nubia in before so many others man
Thank you for bringing up Nubia contributing to the death of this game. Banana Guard and especially Beetlejuice and Lola Bunny are egregious as well
Lola Bunny is very Popular with 90s Kids, if she want a free character. She would've sold more then Nubia, even though She is a half bugs and LeBron clone.
Banna Guard was a free character, but one fans didn't want. Over Ice King or Flame Princess.
Nubia is very unknown DC character. If they wanted a more well known Female they could've used Vixen, Hawkgirl or Ivy.
They fumbled a lot of fan pleaser characters for unknowns. For a F2P that needs good micro transactions to make bank, WB made some puzzling decisions.
A bit sad the game servers will go off in a few months 😢.The game had so much potential.
I didn’t pay for my costumes. I waited until, could earn a free costume by a saving the purple things for them. I got all my costumes for free.
Shame, looked fun
Yeah, a game with so much potential. So sad to see it dying
It is a shame that is going down now, I actually just finally started playing it recently before they announced this. Because I swore for a while on the PlayStation store it cost a lot of money to buy this game, so I didn’t pick it up. Then sometime 2024 I think it was free, I liked playing it.. while it lasted 😅
They should’ve Added Dexter last year along with is laboratory as well as Scooby-Doo because last year was the 55th anniversary of the Scooby-Doo franchise and Warner Brothers didn’t do a thing to celebrate it. Also I was expecting Daffy to be added to the game this month because he has a movie coming out near the end of the month so adding Daffy to promote the movie like they did with Beetlejuice and Black Adam would’ve been a great idea.
Multiversus was something I liked, but just like you, I left for a bit during the previous season. To be honest, i'm not sure what was the cause of MV's downfall. I do agree Nubia was one that i felt didn't need to happen considering so many characters had the potential to be included, but i feel her addition was for...a certain group of people. LeBron was also a weird choice since, for me, it's LeBron. I get it, Space Jam, but much of what stuck out about Space Jam was Looney Tunes and Lola. If they wanted some form of rep, give every Looney Tunes character a Tune Squad costume. Even bring in one of the villains.
I wonder will the modding community get a hold of this and give it new life similar to Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite?
Obviously nubia was a bad move but they did it because they wanted the game to die so they could run with the money
Speaking of Injustice they stupidly decided to make character skins & new characters for the Terrible mobile version of Injustice 2. Instead of adding them to the concert version of Injustice 2
Cheesecake sells. Popular characters sells. Nubia? Banana Guard? Gtfo
I feel disappointed and kind of sad and I feel that both sides of the issue are to blame for this mess. WB needs to get themselves together to make better games for their company.
Greed destroys art.
They didn't create it with the same passion that Sakurai and his team developed Super Smash Bros Ultimate and you can tell.
They could add every character from every IP Warner Brothers has access to and that fact still wouldn't change. Gamers aren't interested in lazy and uninspired games that were created just to be a money sink. Gamers want fun and quality games. Multiversus was not a quality game. Similar to how the Nickelodeon Smash clone was not a quality game. You can make clone games but you have to create them with passion rather than money being the end goal which is why these clone games fail to attract gamers.
They need to make everything free so we can preserve the game lol
Agreed 👍
Great stream Luke ❤❤❤❤❤
Their mistake was turning this game into a live service title to begin with, it would had benefit better if it was an actual fighting game that is not held hostage to a server. Also had it got a port for Switch it would had help a lot too. Nobody wants to buy a hardware that cost over $400 just to play this rental crap.
Sounds like they abandoned their own game
Blaming both Tony and Warner Bros
I feel like nerf/balancing of characters is what made people not wanna play this. All the characters I loved playing got nerfed then I would learn a new character and they would get nerfed. It ended up feeling like all the characters sucked and it didn't feel fun. Also the skins were kinda mid on most of the characters.
Shame, this game had a lot of potential 😔
I personally think it had a lot less to do with the characters, skins, and micro transactions, and more, so to do with the fact that the game itself was unenjoyable to play from a competitive standpoint.
The developers took multiple facets from different platform fighters and failed to realize why those mechanisms worked in their perspective games.
Having your movement tied to a resource in a platform fighter is an awful decision. Platform fighters in general are all about movement. Having your advantage and disadvantage state tied to a resource works in traditional fighters because movement is extremely limited.
You have to create some semblance of RPS. If you have scissors and paper but no rock…people will just pick scissors over and over. The gameplay feels like it was made for mobile because it’s so simple.
No bair, can’t go backwards, no dashing, no “tilts”
Most people I know stopped (myself included) was when the game was “don’t engage and fish for your jab ToD” in singles and doubles is just a mess. Perks were board-line pointless and you need team attack to add depth to competitive 2s…otherwise it’s nothing but a mash fest.
Your thinking of it as a FGC Game, when MV like Smash is a Game designed for all player. With Free to play Games, how they thrive is releasing content fans want to Buy.
Multiversus didn't meet the paying costumers half way and released characters folks from 90s and 00s wouldn't know or care about.
Marketing plays a big part in Games like Smash being successful. Mvs roaster had some good Fighters, but also lame ones no one wanted.
I appreciate your input from a Pro players pov. That's great, but FGC style games don't have mass appeal they are niches. And most of those players migrate to the next fighting game. Mv was made for WB Fans and they didn't deliver on the WB characters fans begged for since 2022. Instead of release content majority of people didn't want.
@ I disagree.
Granted my perspective is bias as it’s coming from a PR smash ult player so take my opinion with a grain of salt
There’s not enough “fun” in MvS for casuals and there’s no depth to be competitive from a platform fighting perspective.
Yes, the characters had something to do with it, but again. Smash is a prime example. Who knows where all the characters came from. How many people have played xenoblade, FE, Metroid, persona 5, FF VII…etc
You play characters that are fun…yes having a relationship with said characters is important, but if they’re not fun..or the game itself isn’t fun…you won’t play the game
I’ve loved Superman since I was 3. Heck my two kids middle names are “Clark” and “Kal” all I wanted in life was to be Rank 1 Superman in a platform fighter. MvS gave me that opportunity, but the game was so “unfun” to me that I couldn’t bring myself to play more than 2 seasons.
Anywho, all that to say, in the multi variable reason why Multiverse has failed illegal levels of monetization or part of it and character selection is also part of it. I don’t think those two things were as major of a role as people are making it out to be they did play a part.
Who need 500 match made party trophy. Let me know we can boost together.
no negative or rude comments. The following statement is only for those who care about continuing to play the game after MAY 30th and game preservationist.
the main concern that I have is it says that "offline will continue for the foreseeable future "meaning,, that could end as well, i don't think that it's a proper offline mode the way that it's stated makes me think its still connected to an online component because it's states
"After logging in, a local save file will be automatically created connected to a PlayStation Network, Microsoft Store, Steam, or Epic Games Store account"
I hope I'm wrong but it sounds like you still need to be connected to access offline, which means that, yes someday that will shut off as well which is why it says foreseeable future, thanks for reading i just wanted to being that to people's attention.
Thats a good point. Also something happens to your save file on Xbox or playstation that's it. This is always the danger for digital games. But im sure the mod community will breath life into this postmortem
@kwingsletsplays thats true man such a bummer and what my concern is that the save file is connected to your playsation "NETWORK" not your system,,meaning that you need to be connected in order to play offline because think about it, it wouldn't say " for the foreseeable future" if it was a proper offline mode,,,if it was a proper offline mode then it would be infinite
I still want to see the new James Gunn Superman movie.
You sound like Falcon from 'Gameranx'.
I've been on youtube since 2007 and I have no idea who that is. If anything, He sounds Like Me.
@kwingsletsplays Putting egos aside🤨, you both sort of do. At least in my opinion.😅
In the 12+ years I've known you guys you have never been wrong when a game or game company goes belly up...!
Belly up?
Brosi---no-no back on track!
So if you mention why a gaming company fails 9/10 you're right on the money.
Sniff-sniff.
Belly 😭.
This guy does not know what he’s talking about. Marceline was one of the most requested characters and not a single person asked for Lola bunny. She is not popular enough for people to come back to the game for.
Everyone has been asking for Lola since the game came out dude. She's one of the most requested characters there is...
They just wanted to scam people for a 2nd time, made everything wrong on purpose to get the excuse, that's it, they scammed, they wont admit, but that's what they did, that's the only thing that makes sense, and they even had de audacity of shutting it off after christmas to get more money, just wake up guys, stop trying to understand something that is more than obvious
I never liked this game. For me it was like Mash Bros was coke and this game was New Coke lol 80’s kids get the analogy lol.
Hopefully they learn the lesson: GIVE the fans what they want ! And we will buy !
hi Luke
Great video Kwing
Please Lola wasn’t gonna make more money over Nubia lol she could have been a bugs bunny doing like how Jake has his alternate skin being Cake the cat and looney toons has toooo many characters already if you include LeBron James
So is it shutdown now?
Marvel's Avengers,Rogue company & Suicide Squad kill the Justice League died. In now is multiverses is dead. What's next OverWatch 2 and fortnite
The fixes were too little, too late.
it is why i did not play i do not care about nubia the character choices where baffling
Well this is why I only play Fortnite
That right
hi Amber
Love the talking videos
Not to ruin your theory but it’s actually looking more like WB wasn’t to blame. Tony actually seems to be the problem.
I know, I was shocked too.
Um but of course WB would blame someone else than themselves doesn't make it true
Great video
Rip
Luke I'm curious on your thoughts on Sucide squad kill the justice league final update where the arkham Batman came back and every justice league death except for wonder woman was backtracked i personally laughed 😂 because I thought it was so funny how they quickly threw it together
He's given his thoughts about that several times on videos and even made a short about that topic already
Apparently, it was Tony's mismanagement that caused MultiVersus to fail, not WB
Sounds kinda like an employee at WB made that up lol
I'm sorry burt I refuse to call Multiversus a "Good" platform fighter causse I hate its gameplay and its shitty monetiation killed my chances of coming back to this game.
I’ve been here for most of the livestreams and it isn’t a Warner brothers problem the leaks and the allegations coming out about Tony is shocking the reason Warner brothers bought player first allegedly is that they tried to get rid of Tony and they bribed Tony and now he is leaving the whole controversy is wild but a lot of player first games employees are coming out against Tony Warner brothers isn’t really the bad guy here Tony according to the leaks and allegations isn’t the best person to run this and he leaked it himself by saying he didn’t want to release character fans want but he wants he wanted aqua man and Lola not Warner
Going off of the reddit posts of former workers at pfg the main problem was tony's mismanagement and leadership. Supposedly WB bought pfg so they can get someone actually good to take over. The reason it wasnt as easy is cause tony has been in the industry for a long while so it would take time. I guess the are canning the game to get him out and then have pfg make multiversus a purchase game in like 5 years time. That what I would do imo. Right the wrongs but as a purchase product with dlc waves.
Highly unlikely since 1.You admittedly got that info from reddit & 2. The game was doing fine till it wss bought by WB. Most likely it's a branwashed salty wb employee that can't stand independant developers are more creative abd hardworking than corporate shills at WB
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