The Best of RZR Latif [C.Viper] SSF4 Arcade Edition & Ver.2012
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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The Best of RZR Latif, in my opinion the best C.Viper player out there, 2nd place overall at EVO2K11, overall winner of SBO qualifiers, 2nd at Devastation and 4th at Revelations and SoCal Regionals. I hope you enjoy the video. Make sure to check out the Latif playlist on my channel, you'll find the biggest amount of his matches on RUclips - www.youtube.com...
For the full matches where the EVO2k11 matches seen in this video, check out IGN's SF channel / streetfighterign
vs Daigo - • Super Street Fighter I...
vs Tokido - • Super Street Fighter I...
vs Poongko - • Super Street Fighter I...
For the "Redemption Suite" match vs Fuudo, courtesy of Ov3rheadGreg - • SSF4 AE: Fuudo (FeiLon...
For the match vs Banana Ken, courtesy of PandaxGaming - • RZR Latif vs TFA Banan...
For the match vs SaBrE's Sakura - • SSF4:AE - Latif (C.Vip...
Viper's a highly technical character but she's awesome when you can put her combos, mixups and resets together to their best effect.
@KumonPhonics couldn't agree more! she does like nearly 600 damage with one ex meter!not to mention alot of her mixups are safe on block. capcom didnt nerf viper in 2012 imo they made her different and in ways better.
So... when we gonna get a "Best of ShinAkuma"?
It's true about C. Viper, in that she has a limited number of specials. However, they are extremely nuanced and change properties depending on the inputs. On top of that, timing is quite strict on C. Viper since she relies on Super Jump Cancels and Thunder Knuckle cancels for combos and mix-ups. The implication of those being that queuing inputs doesn't work most of the time.
@0ShinAkuma0 I think vipers placement in the tier list is like 95% specific player skill .
Latif. The reason why I play C.Viper.
Epic… Wolfkrone and Latif…
He took down Wong, Tokido, Fuudo, Poongko, and THE BEAST!? Kill me...
He lost to Fuudo at EVO that year, after taking down pretty much every other big name/legend to get to the grand final. I think this match with Fuudo was after? Said something along the lines of a redemption tourny or something at the bottom.
ShinAkuma isn't the player, he made a compilation of Latif his best moments.
Viper is very good, just takes more excecution to bring out her good stuff.
@0ShinAkuma0 it is hard work paying off but viper is still godlike.
@Theb0x a couple of japanese players still keep visiting the us and keep winning all of the majors for street fighter 4 and the americans are yet to even cross 2nd round in the japanese tournies they participate in. and no there arent s class players every where, there was no top tier representatives in the us, just the handful of people like justin, ricky etc who do really well with their character.
nice stuff
Viper becomes a very strong character once you know all her special "assets"
Hands down, he is the best Viper. Imho better than Uryo in his Viper days.
5:36 C.viper says F*ck off!!! xD
Your home is the place where you get fed not where you born
how he did'nt won Evo?
Latiff taught me one thing.... Just stick to the basics with viper lol
Damn latif is fucking good. I don't think we will see too many vipers this year at EVO in top 8. Too many people top players even more than last. And viper got a lil nerfed which why I say it. But I really hope latif does good.
5:44 Blanka didn't have a chance to attack
Yes, as long as they're not European or Canadian. Poongko is the adopted son of the US, deal with it.
C. Viper is probably the hardest character to control in SFIV but Latif makes her seem extremely easy to use :/ such talent.
Damn!
Best of Mago!?
Viper is such a high learning curve character, but Damn she's awesome! She's my #1 main.
I remember Latif was doing endless battles with a bunch of players and was on like a 100+ win streak. He stopped because he was getting tired XD
Sad his name isnt rememebered as one of the greats. Dude was such a good viper
one of my alltime favorite players (beasts)
in fact the viper is one of the hardest chars in the game to master, it becomes even more great.
@Ntploc Well considering America is a multi-race'd country, he's just assuming he's a US player because he lives in the US.
There's no "American" race. The only Americans were the natives, which are rare these days. Then invaded Europe.. etc. Eh I don't feel like typing the whole American/Europe history. But you get the point.
lol
1:42 = Fear in Physical Form
By the end of it, you know exactly what was running through his opponent's head, "Please don't kill me, please don't kill me, PLEASE DON'T KILL ME!
What's funny is, before Latif, I don't remember anyone complaining about Viper.
@DaigosFriend Haha, nice novelty account.
@KTC12490 Latif and Wolfkrone are the only Viper players placing high with her in tournaments. That's their hard work paying off for them, nothing more.
C.Viper is wasted on Capcom. She needs to be in Blazblue or Persona or Undernight In Birth. Capcom has no idea what to do with such talent. They need to sell M.Bison too. Bison and Viper have soooo much potential but are limited by bad fighting mechanics :(
+Shawn Sean I'm fairly ignorant of Anime Fighters, and would love for you to expand on why you think this. I just love how C. Viper is as a character, and I'm intrigued enough to see if I can find something similar somewhere else.
+Isaiah Uzzle Footsteps is also valid. No instant air dashes here
Street fighter lacks instant air dashes and a solid combo-system (my opinion about the combo system). When talking about giving up these 2 characters- games like BB and Persona have far more animation appeal. Imagine Viper or Bison in some high tech animation; Arcsys would offer just that. We also see Viper limited to terribly lame looking due to the width of the stages. Viper's 214LP seems poorly spaced and leaves her hit box open in the event that you dont cancel. The reason she is so vulnerable is because of the stage size. This apply for virtually all her attacks- especially her Ultra Combos. Though the EX versions of her attacks give her faster time to recover, her movements are still cringe-worthy and slow looking. Viper is a really good character but this game really does dim her light. Characters like Juri, Dudley and Gouken (virtually all their characters) would benefit from adopting high resolution 2D fighting like Persona or BB. Not like King of Fighters- that games mechanics are everywhere. We should look no further than Marvel VS Capcom 2 to see just how well a less restricted fighting mechanics do SF characters. Aside from awkward shoryukens (and like DPs) and even more awkward M.Bison attacks, we see that the street fighter characters seem a lot cooler.
+Shawn Sean Mate you're so wrong. Just stop.
Teru922 How am I wrong? :)
Bring back ssf4 or similar... But not the sfv
@DDRW94 Ok but beating daigo no great feat Daigo is an overrated guy, A fraud who just got lucky again and again,, latif poongko sako are the real Players he was always overrated,, Daigo is just a fraud
@darkneolord Imo, if you learn how to play Viper on a top level. You should be able to kick ass in the same way. Btw, tell me how does one character do not "Belong" in a game?
ahh such a good viper! i hate i dont have enough patience to learn her D:
Needs moar Latif crowd surfing
WTF
1:48
viper is one of the best characters when she's under control in the right hands.
@0ShinAkuma0 Much closer than I am at it. One day man, one day.
Latif's sponsor changes like, every 20 minutes I swear. Every time I see his name, a new abbreviation is in front of it.
This is a video game guys, does it fucking matter where they are from? Keep that political shit elsewhere, this is gaming.
I'll never forget Latif's performance at EVO, I went crazy watching all those eliminations on the stream
@AbirZenith shes not the only character with low health. Gouki has low health too but at least he isn't as ridiculous as viper. sakura has low health too shes not broken. Ibuki same thing. life lead almost all the time is irrelevant for viper one combo and she takes 70% not to mention guess wrong once after and your dead. Shes never received legit nerfs the whole time in sf4. she breaks the rules of the game so often. theres no way if laatif would beat daigo if it wasnt for viper nor tokido
@0ShinAkuma0 That statement can apply to any member of the cast?.How many seths/akumas/sagats place high at tournaments?.Only a few people can place high at tournaments by their very nature.You need to look at a characters attributes/power to determine how strong they are not tournament rankings.I am hesitant to agree with the term broken but you only need to see 4.50 of the video to see how powerful this character is,couple that with unfairly ambiguous cross ups and she has an advantage.
Viper doesn't belong in this game, her style screams MAHVEL. Latif and Krone are very good players, but I honestly don't see them being able to take down the world's best players if they didn't use Viper and her very non SF flying around the screen style.
BTW, I've had this debate 1000 times before, so whoever disagrees, no need to get all butthurt since this is just my opinion.
@IlIl00 Nah, Bison is actually my second character after Akuma. Bison is VERY underrated, he's not as good as people think, solid upper mid-tier at best. I don't mind Balrog... I don't wanna say who they are, I wanna stay neutral. PM me and I'll tell you who they are. lol :)
Shin are you officially back???
If so... here is Homer Simpson for you man -----> ( 8^(I)
@0ShinAkuma0 i agree that they are top players but the character is op. could go on all day about why lols. not sayin latif and wolfkrone aint dope players they are top notch but vipers damage output and mixups are broken imo
C. Viper just might be one of the most UNDERRATED characters in SSFIV ever XD
It one thing for someone to face a character that isn't used that often. It's another thing to face that character when someone knows how to use them effectively. That's why F.Champ Dahlsim and Latif's Viper are so deadly. Those guys picked up the unconventinal/low/mid tier characters and found all of their strenghts. Until others can do the same, they will be damn near unstopable forces. I really enjoy watch latif's viper. It keeps the game fresh IMO.
@outdoorsolidus mike ross just got 3rd at godsgarden. Fubarduck and Kim1234 got 4th at one of the last NSBs. and single game single elimination is so stupid im not even going to comment on it, the only japanese tourneys i care about is godsgarden since NSB is no more. i am not saying japan isnt better than us, they are. but the gap isnt as far as people make it out to be. the uk has two good players, fword and ryan hart. france owns u up for free, and france sucks compared to usa
@Ntploc he has lived in the US for 5-6 years and has learned the game in the US, playing against US players. he himself has stated that he considers himself an american player in this game. in guilty gear, he is saudi as that is where he learned how to play the game.
of course, you are european. hasn't hating on americans become cliche for you guys yet? historically the japanese have owned us, but not in sf4. the gap WORLDWIDE has tightened up, there are S class players everywhere.
@neontetra1000 Actually no, you can't say that about other characters. The only people placing high with her are people who have CONSISTENTLY used her since vanilla. There are no top players that just 'pick her up'.
That's mostly player skill in the video. Some people can't deal with it and that's fine. But until top players simultaneously 'pick her up' and start placing high, complaints can and will be filed under saltiness.
@0ShinAkuma0 100% agree. Viper is an insanely ambiguous and complicated character to play as and to fight against. Without an equally insane, ambiguous and complex brain behind the controller, she's nothing special. Lucky for Latif, he's one of the few players who can actually keep up with Viper's mixups and overwhelming momentum based offence and the product is an absurdly powerful play style. Latif can take 1 tiny mistake, capitalise and obliterate you in the blink of an eye. Godlike.
Viper's not broken. problem with viper is she has too many ambiguious easy ways to connect into ultra, which imo makes her very unfair. best example is daigo vs uryo ft10. daigo outplays uryo, gets his life down. uryo lands 1 hit that easily confirms into ultra and the life bar is evened up. its more her design, but i felt uryo was winning due more to his character than his skill, because he was honestly being outplayed. krone & latif DOMINATE games so u have to hand that to their skill level
Viper is probably one of the hardest characters to master. To do the instant flame kick, her cancels, all need precise hand motions. For the flamekick to actually come out as a cross, the player needs to memorize distances for every single character in the game. Without the high reward for this mastering, viper would be useless. Imagine learning to do a dangerous combo that if dropped can instantly change the stream of the game and only gives you half the damage of a BnB akuma hurricane combo.
@0ShinAkuma0
It isn't that people think Latif or Wolfkrone's success is based solely upon the fact that they use Viper, it's just that Viper has so many tools that matches become increasingly in her favor, and become seemingly mindless guessing games. Viper requires very strong execution, but once that threshold is reached she is almost unfair. Look at what Kindevu did at Canada Cup, he took out top players not because he put hard work into viper, but because they guessed wrong.
@Theb0x lol please educate me, just when did mike ross get 3rd place at gods garden? and kim/fubarduck are part of the japanese scene for street fighter 4 and its only natural for them to place in tournies, if you are going to say otherwise then i could refute latif representing america for street fighter 4 using the same logic.
@Theb0x I agrree with you, now there are s class players everywhere. But japan have the best street fighters palyers overall. in other countries are a lot of super pro players but they are a few. in japan almost everybody play at a very high level. Im not from europe xD i was born In southamerica were i used to play kof a lot.
@0ShinAkuma0 well the point is that nothing much has changed, a couple of japanese still keeping going to the us and place first in almost every single major while on the other hand, the americans barely make it to the second or third round in japan. momochi said in singapore that playing overseas is 10 times more difficult and is what completes a player.
Flash metroid and Marn and Uryo invented Viper back in the SF4 days. But Latif was the smartest, because he sticked with her and now... the character loyalty payed him back bigtime. She was contained in SF4 by Sagat, and in Super by the chargers, but since AE... she almost unstoppable, if you know your homework with her.
@metallicaband No I quite agree with you; C. Viper is like Capcom's MvC expy because at the time, MvC3 was a long shot to end the long shots (more so considering they lost the license for Marvel characters). I wouldn't be surprised if they just said "stuff it" and decided to put her in SF4 as a callback to their MvC games, with the same level of execution and combo potential.
@Ntploc He is a student from Saudi Arabia but I don't think attacking people over their "patriotism" for saying that they remember him going to high school here (which he didn't but he has been here a long time) is a bit much. Get over yourself and go play some gaems
This character is and always will be broken until those burn kicks become negative.
Stunning characters with 1 meter. Doing 45-50% damage of shanangins, a million and 1 ways to land your ultra. Latif's good but Viper's bs helps cover mistakes when you just ground pound your way to victory.
that statement just shows you know nothing.
it's not politics, it's about japan pretty much owning everyone at street fighter for the last 10 years, and here's some foreign us exchange student living in arizona destroying their best player. It's a rivalry...
Uh yeah when they live in the US. You don't see people saying Justin is a Chinese person so he's not apart of the US group.
Latif is known for kicking ass while living in the States not in Saudi Arabia therefore he's apart of the US group.
I'll say this 1 last time - u shinakuma said ft5 with latif - soon after I beat latif he gonna be pumping my gas at a gas station or giving me a free lunch special at 7-11 - he not gonna want to play sf anymore after I'm done with him
@0ShinAkuma0 Man shin you really sell yourself short. 3500 pp is nothing to laugh at nd I'm sure if you played as much as the amount of content you upload you'd be a grandmaster.Nd even though you don't your still a street fighter grandmaster in my eyes.
God Viper is cheap. For some reason it pisses me off every time I see that combo with the two fierce punches lol. I just feel like she shouldn't be able to do that. And does she really need a crossup roundhouse?
No he studies in Arizona so therefor he's currently living there, it's just a scholarship to study college then he'll be back to Saudi Arabia... you can ask him yourself if you get the chance to talk to him.
@partycrasher0007 Latif has blown up krone alot and just because krone won 3-1 in a mirror doesn't mean nothing except that krone knows the matchup better. And more legit WOW I don't remember him beating Daigo Poongko and Tokido
At the end. "Score one for US"? LOL he is a student with a visa he´s from Arabia Saudi.
American players are frustrated for being historically OWNED by japanese players.
At Evo everyone that is not japanese represents US?
So much salt in the comments! I'd like to see every person claiming that Viper is OP, play half as solid as Latif.
You can count all the Viper players that place high in tournies on one hand. Crybabies man.
What's the point if u can keep away your opponents with seismos for most of the way - it just doesn't fit the description of classic hand to hand combat for which this game was made for - not to mention u dnt have to block
It fucking cracked me up when in an interview Latif himself said Viper does not play like a street fighter character. Hold that shit guilty gear. Also, I think Seth is much more broken than Viper is. Just my two cents, but hey.
Since Viper is based off of Capt. Commando, it would make sense to say she doesn't belong in this game. However that feels like a cop out. She's brought a unique element to the world of street fighter.
Yesterday I managed to do Seismo -> Seismo feint -> Seismo -> Seismo feint -> Seismo... I still got a LOOOONG way to go xD I wish I was asian-good as Latif. He is my favorite player.
Great compilation....I kept watching the bait on wolfkrone....buddha like....Great awareness from latif and gameplay from krone...any good player would've done the same thing.
@feraljim I find Latif is DEFINITELY one of the most interesting people to watch. (Of course, as Viper) He has a ton of tricks and you never really know what's going to come out.
Lol how often do you see him doing flame kicks he got rid of that now he focus more on frame trapping and doing safe burn kick mixups and zoning really strong player
no. Latif has only been in the states for 4 years. Justin is AMERICAN. That's like saying if Tokido comes to USA to study then he would be in the US group LOL
Jeez latif this latif that - latifs been my apprentice since back in vanilla - aauuuaahh(stretch) no need for applause ppl - i know I can't help being me
@feraljim why do people say he'll struggle against the top japanese players? He beat all the top japanese players in one tournament for crying out loud!!
those meterless seismo fadc cancels... damn
I have faith in him after seeing this madness. I don't know fuck all about Street Fighter because I rage quit, but I know true talent anywhere.
Why is LATIF soooo damn GOOD? Its not fair...GOD shouldve distrubuted all that TALENT evenly amongst the people of SF...its just not fair. ; )
@neontetra1000 Easy to speak of advantages. Viper has alot of weaknesses which are the reason why nobody can play her at such a high level.
@0ShinAkuma0 nobody played her correctly til later on, but i see what you're getting at.
I'd say it's up to the competetitor for what country he wants to represent. If he wants to represent Saudi Arabia then so be it...
@0ShinAkuma0 Yea gtag: cykknasty - msg me that's if u dare not to have latif lick the psycho power right off the bottom of my shoe
Daigo a fraud? He's been in all of the top 8 in EVO since SF4 came out. He is definitely one of the top 8 players in the world..
lol really? so if a Chinese team wins in the Olympics in England that counts for England right? Logic my friend you lack it
10:28pm - clicks on 'best of latiff' video
10:29pm - puts ssf4 back into the drawers and plays littlebigplanet =(
@KTC12490
Well we all have whines and concerns
I think Rufus and Seth are a little cheap but that's me
lol
@0ShinAkuma0 hard work and a little bit of brokeness come on admit it you know she is a ridiculous character to
There needs to be a US team with Latif and Krone so that Japanese players finally learn to respect Viper.
@0ShinAkuma0 Yep, leave it to Latif to break something that isn't broken ha ha. He keeps the game exciting.