These days we have benzos to treat it the best they could do back then is ween him off. With how addicted he was there’s no way he didn’t have a seizure during all of this. About 1-2 people out of twenty have the delirium tremens which can also be heart palpitations. Mine were mild because of the benzos. Funny enough alcohol and benzos are the only two drugs you can really die from quitting cold turkey. But when I went through it they gave me 4 days of benzos and weaned me off. I was lucky. Never quit alcohol cold turkey.
@Robert Baratheon Congratulations in getting treatment and I hope you will remain strong and heathy. I lost my sister yesterday, the youngest of four and the first to die. She became an alcoholic in college but was able to kick it. She didn’t tell that to the doctor she saw him for pain treatment. She became addicted to OxyContin and was getting it from numerous doctors. When they figured out what she was doing they cut her off cold turkey. She threatened suicide convincingly enough that she was hospitalized in a mental ward. She went downhill from there. An addict doesn’t need to be there... she met others that taught her how to get it illegally and where. She went from being a beautiful wife and mother, daughter and sister, Teacher of the Year in 6 months to being institutionalized. She never recovered. She cut all family ties and damaged her health. Her heart gave out. I cannot tell you how broken I am by this and wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Please take care of yourself and be strong. If you think you have addictive personality I beg you to get help and never take drugs that can take over your will. You are truly a person of value and I’m sure you are very loved. Please remember that. Even strangers are rooting for you. Many blessings.
Deborah Merkerson Thank you so much for your kind words. I don’t want to compare like this because I’ve never lost a sibling, but my best friend died on November 10th last year from opiates. This opiate crisis won’t get better until we deploy our resources and even then who knows? I hope for strength for you during this time and strangers care on this side too.
Even these days it’s better to ween off than chance it cold turkey if one can’t afford a hospital. Takes about a week for the worst and about 2 weeks to feel somewhat normal.
@Charlie Dallachie From my experience with my sister and later from a friend’s wife, the willingness of the patient to seek treatment and choosing the hospital and right treatment program are all important for the success of treatment. My sister didn’t stand a chance. The overnight withdrawal and lack of appropriate medical therapy resulted in a very damaged, broken person. The friend lived where there were a dozen or more treatment options, all interventions and incredibly expensive. With the cooperation of all friends and family, she also had to be institutionalized. Because she was getting medical drug treatment, she then became willing. The facilities in our area offered only one option and that was a mental ward. That environment could never have helped my sister.
@@TheInfantry98 I didn’t say ALL military members suffer from PTSD. Only the ones who do suffer from it or have. Secondly, because a person has/have had PTSD doesn’t mean that you’re weak and broken. They may be going/have gone through a very dark/life altering period in their lives but they’re still strong people and May walk by you without you ever knowing the kind of demons that they’re/they have faced. Your comment is weak and broken. Let alone ignorant.
@@bigharp0949I’m disappointed you actually replied to this loser. He is not serious and he wanted to just cause harm with such a stupid comment. Understand there are people out there with this as their only goal in mind. Pay no attention to them and ignore, otherwise you play their game and they also don’t get a chance to heal; making the same mistakes over and over again.
@@christophersatkowski8548 you’re absolutely right. I wasted time and effort on his comment instead of focusing on the intention of bringing light to military members who suffer from PTSD. Thank you.
My poor husband went through alcohol withdrawal while struggling with PTSD from his time in the military. It was so heartbreaking to watch. He was in so much pain, both physically and emotionally. Watching this scene is always hard for me because it reminds me of my husband’s suffering. Tom Cruise did an excellent job.
I'm a alcoholic, I have every thing a man can want.. a beautiful beautiful woman and home, car.. job.. I need help.. I'm terrified.. to stop drinking. I really appreciate your post.. it hit home. Thank you. I don't know if I can quit.. but you make me want to. It's a evil drug..
This whole sequence is very emotional and heartbreaking. All his life, Algren tried to forget about the horrors of what he saw and did, and now, he's fighting a battle in his heart and soul, against his dark past and it's a tearjerker to see him in such emotional, mental and spiritual pain. Taka may not know what he did, but she understands that he can't keep going like this. He needs to face his demons and overcome them. In the director's commentary, there was mention of an idea that she came to him in the night to try and comfort him, but decided otherwise, that he needed to fight this battle alone. It's the only way for him to get through the trauma. I do like to think that when we see Katsumoto praying in the shrine, he was not only praying for himself and his people, and the Emperor, but he was also praying for Algren, too. The scene ends on a comforting note when Algren wakes up in the morning and he's more at peace, having endured that first battle, and he's starting to take his first steps towards his own redemption and forgiveness of himself.
I TOLD YOUUUU!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! to see him suffering from ptsd and alacahol withdrawl along with the physical pain he was in and the amazing sad music playing in the background....this scene made me cry
You bet man ! Everytime I see this I feel the pain I can't help but crying ! What a powerful depiction ! I have become a fan of Tom forever after this scene.
As Someone With CPTSD From My Time In The Service This Scene Always Hits Home. When I Returned Home My Family Noticed I Wasn't The Same. I Would Put Up A Brave Front While They're Around But When I Would Be Alone They Would Wake Up To Me Screaming And Shouting About My Nightmares. I Appreciate Tom's Acting Here Because Anyone With PTSD Of Warfare Would Understand Best. "Only The Dead Have Seen The End Of The War." -Sun Tzu
As someone who’s gone through withdrawal, I always break down when watching this. It’s difficult to see, even acted, when you’ve gone through it and you understand the torment. It’s also actually a fairly accurate portrayal of what it’s like. Your entire body is just in the grips of agony, incredible agony second to second that seems to last forever, and then BAM....you’re suddenly awake.
Watching this scene and scrolling through the comments. I read yours. "And then BAM.... you're suddenly awake". As a person who is tormented with alcoholism, this actually stopped me in my tracks and made me cry. Don't know why, but this is one of the most powerful statements I've ever heard. And not just for those suffering from alcohol, but anything. You should copyright that shit and put it on shirts, coffee mugs, and everything else. Don't usually comment on anything, but felt like I had to let you know that that statement will change my life, and I will hold on to it and spread it till I die. ❤️
Went through a real dark phase where I was basically alone and dealing with a lot of painful memories. Turned to drinking and was drinking about 750 ml of whiskey a night for months. Ended up getting a rare throat infection called epiglotitis which put me in the hospital and I began withdrawing terribly. First night I kept waking up unable to breathe because of the epglotitis, insane heart rate of 155-165 and very high blood pressure ( this indicated the withdrawal early on) then the hallucinations and DT’s began. I was absolutely terrified and screaming at stuff that was not there. I would sob and apologize to a ghost who was not there. The terror was mixed with doses of extreme anger where I would fight to get out of bed and pulled out IV’s so they strapped my arms and legs down. Nurse told me it was the saddest thing she ever saw because she could tell I was in so much pain and how when I was a little coherent i would apologize profusely to all the nurses and beg them not be mad at me. I dont remember a lot but I know that I could barely stand for days. Spent 6 days in the icu and another 4 in regular care. At that point I was demanding the doctors release me, which I had been doing a lot because after the serious dt's ended I felt so much anger. They finally did and I remember putting on these scrub pants that were way too big for me that the hospital provided since my clothes were so dirty from getting sick when I was first emitted. They then gave me a shirt and some slippers. I then stumbled out of the hospital, barely able to walk because of either the meds or because my body was so exhausted after what it went through. Since I was taken from an urgent care by ambulance I had no car (which was good bc like I said, I could barely walk at all) I had to walk home which was about 1.2 miles away. It was freezing cold and drizzling and I stumbled and fell all over the place as I pushed home. Then I stopped at a liquor store, grabbed a handle of vodka and cranberry juice, and walked the rest of the way. By the time I got home I was shivering worst then I ever have in my life, covered in mud. blood, scrapes, and bruises from falling so much, but so happy to fall on my bed and start drinking. Nearly finished the handle and passed out. Went right back to how I was but even worse for the next 10 days. Then I realized I had to stop. Spent another 5 days in hospital, 2 in icu, bad withdrawals but not at bad as the first time. The doctors really opened up to me and showed so much compassion, something I had not experienced for years. I still struggled severely but began working to stop. I hope I can win this battle, for the people who I know love me that I have hurt so much. I want to be able to reach out and let them know how bad I am. But talking about myself and asking for help is next to impossible. I just cant bring myself to do it. I hope I can eventually because I know if I don't, I will not be alive much longer. I just keep telling myself that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, and I gotta keep fighting through the darkness.
its not a hangover. They are depicting alcohol withdrawal. Tom Cruise did a pretty good job too. I don't remember from the movie if it was just the one night or if he was out for several days. but i reality this is what you go through for a couple days. and with the kind of drinking he was doing, it would take about about a week to feel normal again. scary stuff.
Withdrawal can be an absolute nightmare like this. One of the toughest things I ever had to endure. Like Cruise, I was just using it avoid pain...but it just begins a cycle of needing alcohol...then it making you anxious/scared...which causes you to drink more. Vicious cycle.
+Baraber Drava it's both, he became a drunk to forget his trauma. Now that he's off the alcohol, his PTSD has teamed up with the he alcohol withdrawal for some nasty shit.
During Nursing School clinicals, I was caring for a patient that was a former morphine addict that was experiencing a relapse because of his medical condition. It was similar to this scene; substitute sake with morphine. And quite a bit more cursing. However, as someone in another comment stated, the condition continued on for days vs however long this scene implies. Regardless, recalling the experience has made me appreciate this movie and Tom Cruise's acting a bit more.
I've gone through alcohol and heroin withdrawals and the alcohol withdrawal was WAY worse than anything else and it's legal and considered normal to drink. Watching this scene gave me some horrible flashbacks.
Diego Romero Samurai alcohol withdrawal is worse because it can actually kill you Heroin withdrawal is a b**** but it cannot kill you alcohol withdrawal is worse because it can actually kill you where heroin feels bad but it cannot kill you
@Lester Green I have a huge problem repeating myself because I feel like if I don't do that the person doesn't understand I have genius level like you and so I want to impart knowledge to somebody but I feel like if I don't repeat it they're not going to understand I apologize anyway
@Lester Green I went to Princeton University I have a degree not only a degree I have a PhD I've lived here all my life in Princeton I just want to import knowledge to people I apologize I just wanted to say something and I feel like if I don't repeat myself you will understand the first time I said it to you I feel like you're off in space and so I have to say it a few times I apologize I'm sorry
@Lester Green I repeat myself because I feel like if I don't you won't understand the first time maybe the second time you're going to understand but I feel like by the third or fourth you will understand I apologize
With respect, I think Katsumoto felt what Algren was feeling once he got to know him. Katsumoto spoke of how he didn't enjoy taking lives on the battlefield and how it affected him too. It was only Katsumotos wisdom and his meditation training (and not being an alcoholic) that helped him get through it.
As someone with a PTSD episode and withdrawal of medication for PTSD. This really defines going without medication and suffering of PTSD. At night when you try to sleep, you will keep seeing the traumas before your eyes. Ever time you fall a sleep you will wake up shaken in cold sweat fearing of death or conflicts. It’s really hell on earth to go to sleep in a sober way. However, once you’re mind is healed and becomes peace with everything around you. You will understand how your mind and soul connects back with nature. This movie describe that proces perfect.
I thought that Sake meant liquor but either way he is asking for it so he can forget the pain of his wounds and the haunting past of killing the Indians. My heart hurt in this scene because of the trauma he had to go through. This movie is one of the best. We need more movies like this now. Please make more!!! Thanks for uploading.
The Real Deal Horses His character is an alcoholic and without a certain amount of alcohol in his system he has severe alcohol withdrawals with is absolutely horrible and can actually kill a person.
What started as a coping mechanism for PTSD ended up turning into an addiction, while not treating the cause for his pain. So when he is visibly shaking from withdrawal, at the same time the haunting memories keep coming back too.
2:28 The scream of Algren perfectly matched with the meditation of Katsumoto. While, algren was dependent on wine and was helpless without it, Katsumoto learnt the ways of meditation. Their problems were same.
I saw a good bit of people saying that scene is funny like how is that funny at all he is calling out for alcohol so he can not see the memories and it pisses me off
The nature of humor is tragedy plus time. Just as someone falling and hurting themselves can be absolutely hilarious, so too can a man wiggling around on the floor yelling for booze. When you consider that it also sounds a bit like the old "sucky sucky" meme that makes it twice as humorous.
August Varney saki... I’ve had it it’s a little bit stronger than wine (between wine and liquor)... it’s actually pretty good. If you go to any Japanese restaurant or teppanyaki (where they cook the food in front of you) it’s nice. But yea severe withdrawal an addict needs the alcohol, if hospitals or detox isn’t available they need to taper off it slowly. Cold turkey is brutal and like a 10% or more chance of death usually by seizures.
I really do this scene so much. Because I have been drinking. Vodka literally for the past 2 and a 1/2 years. Every day all day, 7 days a week. And somehow Managed to hold down a job. I am scared to stop drinking because of my memories. And I have tried to stop drinking many times but I go through horrific. Horrible seizures, seizures shaking shaking. And I relate to this scene very, very much. I don't feel I'm a bad person. I just tried to kill my memory
The wife will probably have them now too, as her husband's killer is sitting in her spare room screaming for alcohol and terrifying her. It literally makes her ask Katsumoto to grant her leave to kill herself. Rosy glasses it puts on later aside, having the man who destroyed your marriage and made your children fatherless become your unwelcome guest would be traumatic in the extreme.
Alcohol withdrawal is hell. Opioids and stimulants get all the headlines, but alcohol is far worse. Withdrawal can and will kill you without medical intervention, and the post-acute phase is long and drawn out. Worked with addicts for years (including detox) and had a period of addiction myself years ago, and this is very accurate
A soldier, veteran of combat, will never face an enemy more deadly that the demons in his own mind. He needs the support of his buddies and family more than ever when he faces that fight. some never get it, and remain a casualty for the rest of their life,...... long.....or short.
I once had this same problem with alcohol and it's truly horrible. It makes you feel like you are an absolute trash because you didn't live some experiences of your past the way you wanted them to live. In resume, it makes you hate yourself.
This is me now. Every night for about 3 months now. It isn't exactly... a good idea. Nor does it seem escapeable. The prison is strong. Definitely more impenetrable than anything physical. I pray that no one end up where I am. It's not a retrievable position. You'd be just as lost as am I--never to return.
nothing is worse than having PTSD and suffering pyschosis from alcohol. Ruined many friendships and a relationship. You really aren't yourself anymore.
The thing with alcohol detox is... the movie does it well for the most part, but where he just "wakes up" and is normal? Totally false. Depending on how much you need to withdraw you literally cannot even stand up for a week or so. But I get it, it's a movie...
Its not just memories or drinking Its the worst memories of dark, horror , sad scenes of war. Many veterans are shout at night coz of them or when they were soldiers and were forced to see something unhuman horror evil scene or ordered to do and it was against the "Rules of War " ( Genocides.. ) or they just didn't accept the Reality that they were in Hell of a Battlefield and scenes like that always are about to be happened ( explosion few mtrs away and pieces everywhere of a companion ) etc..
Junkies think they know what a hard withdrawal is they have nothing on alcoholics I say this as a former alcoholic the dreams alone are nightmares literally
If you ever party to much with Alcohol this is what detox can look like. What it can't show is the inner turmoil that is the most difficult to get away from. Stay away from drugs and alcohol people :-)
He drinks because he was depressed on the the real horrific things he saw on the side he was on. The squad he was a part of killed innocent Indians while he watched in horror and only shot at some that were suffering so he ended it for them.
Withdrawal is kinda like breaking a leg or giving birth in that there's two kinds of people; those who have felt it and those who can only imagine it. In my own experience, think of the hungriest you've ever been. The thirstiest you've ever been. Withdrawal is a little like that, only food or water won't do shit. My whole brain felt like a bag of snakes and my body felt as weak as a baby. There's a reason why doctors won't let you go cold turkey.
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Tom Cruise did a great job portraying symptoms of PTSD and alcohol detox.
These days we have benzos to treat it the best they could do back then is ween him off. With how addicted he was there’s no way he didn’t have a seizure during all of this. About 1-2 people out of twenty have the delirium tremens which can also be heart palpitations. Mine were mild because of the benzos. Funny enough alcohol and benzos are the only two drugs you can really die from quitting cold turkey. But when I went through it they gave me 4 days of benzos and weaned me off. I was lucky. Never quit alcohol cold turkey.
@Robert Baratheon Congratulations in getting treatment and I hope you will remain strong and heathy. I lost my sister yesterday, the youngest of four and the first to die. She became an alcoholic in college but was able to kick it. She didn’t tell that to the doctor she saw him for pain treatment. She became addicted to OxyContin and was getting it from numerous doctors. When they figured out what she was doing they cut her off cold turkey. She threatened suicide convincingly enough that she was hospitalized in a mental ward. She went downhill from there. An addict doesn’t need to be there... she met others that taught her how to get it illegally and where. She went from being a beautiful wife and mother, daughter and sister, Teacher of the Year in 6 months to being institutionalized. She never recovered. She cut all family ties and damaged her health. Her heart gave out. I cannot tell you how broken I am by this and wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Please take care of yourself and be strong. If you think you have addictive personality I beg you to get help and never take drugs that can take over your will. You are truly a person of value and I’m sure you are very loved. Please remember that. Even strangers are rooting for you. Many blessings.
Deborah Merkerson Thank you so much for your kind words. I don’t want to compare like this because I’ve never lost a sibling, but my best friend died on November 10th last year from opiates. This opiate crisis won’t get better until we deploy our resources and even then who knows? I hope for strength for you during this time and strangers care on this side too.
Even these days it’s better to ween off than chance it cold turkey if one can’t afford a hospital. Takes about a week for the worst and about 2 weeks to feel somewhat normal.
@Charlie Dallachie From my experience with my sister and later from a friend’s wife, the willingness of the patient to seek treatment and choosing the hospital and right treatment program are all important for the success of treatment. My sister didn’t stand a chance. The overnight withdrawal and lack of appropriate medical therapy resulted in a very damaged, broken person. The friend lived where there were a dozen or more treatment options, all interventions and incredibly expensive. With the cooperation of all friends and family, she also had to be institutionalized. Because she was getting medical drug treatment, she then became willing. The facilities in our area offered only one option and that was a mental ward. That environment could never have helped my sister.
This scene resonates with every military member who has suffered PTSD. 🙏🏾
Most military men do not suffer from PTSD AND therefore aren’t weak and broken
@@TheInfantry98 I didn’t say ALL military members suffer from PTSD. Only the ones who do suffer from it or have. Secondly, because a person has/have had PTSD doesn’t mean that you’re weak and broken. They may be going/have gone through a very dark/life altering period in their lives but they’re still strong people and May walk by you without you ever knowing the kind of demons that they’re/they have faced. Your comment is weak and broken. Let alone ignorant.
@@bigharp0949I’m disappointed you actually replied to this loser. He is not serious and he wanted to just cause harm with such a stupid comment. Understand there are people out there with this as their only goal in mind. Pay no attention to them and ignore, otherwise you play their game and they also don’t get a chance to heal; making the same mistakes over and over again.
@@christophersatkowski8548 you’re absolutely right. I wasted time and effort on his comment instead of focusing on the intention of bringing light to military members who suffer from PTSD. Thank you.
@@bigharp0949 god bless our military and vets and I thank them all for their outstanding service to our communities, you’re welcome friend
My poor husband went through alcohol withdrawal while struggling with PTSD from his time in the military. It was so heartbreaking to watch. He was in so much pain, both physically and emotionally. Watching this scene is always hard for me because it reminds me of my husband’s suffering. Tom Cruise did an excellent job.
I'm a alcoholic, I have every thing a man can want.. a beautiful beautiful woman and home, car.. job.. I need help.. I'm terrified.. to stop drinking. I really appreciate your post.. it hit home. Thank you. I don't know if I can quit.. but you make me want to. It's a evil drug..
@@tommyjoestallings855 You can quit! Do whatever it takes, brother.
@@tommyjoestallings855 You can quit! Do whatever it takes, brother.
This whole sequence is very emotional and heartbreaking. All his life, Algren tried to forget about the horrors of what he saw and did, and now, he's fighting a battle in his heart and soul, against his dark past and it's a tearjerker to see him in such emotional, mental and spiritual pain. Taka may not know what he did, but she understands that he can't keep going like this. He needs to face his demons and overcome them. In the director's commentary, there was mention of an idea that she came to him in the night to try and comfort him, but decided otherwise, that he needed to fight this battle alone. It's the only way for him to get through the trauma. I do like to think that when we see Katsumoto praying in the shrine, he was not only praying for himself and his people, and the Emperor, but he was also praying for Algren, too. The scene ends on a comforting note when Algren wakes up in the morning and he's more at peace, having endured that first battle, and he's starting to take his first steps towards his own redemption and forgiveness of himself.
Well said
Thank you
Nicely put homie
This is the most perfect perception of this scene I have come across. Bravo!
Nathan Algren
I TOLD YOUUUU!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! to see him suffering from ptsd and alacahol withdrawl along with the physical pain he was in and the amazing sad music playing in the background....this scene made me cry
Cry
i feel you
You bet man ! Everytime I see this I feel the pain I can't help but crying ! What a powerful depiction ! I have become a fan of Tom forever after this scene.
ABSTINENCE ASFK BRA!
As Someone With CPTSD From My Time In The Service This Scene Always Hits Home. When I Returned Home My Family Noticed I Wasn't The Same. I Would Put Up A Brave Front While They're Around But When I Would Be Alone They Would Wake Up To Me Screaming And Shouting About My Nightmares. I Appreciate Tom's Acting Here Because Anyone With PTSD Of Warfare Would Understand Best. "Only The Dead Have Seen The End Of The War." -Sun Tzu
"Only the dead have seen the end of war" is a quote from Plato.
As someone who’s gone through withdrawal, I always break down when watching this. It’s difficult to see, even acted, when you’ve gone through it and you understand the torment. It’s also actually a fairly accurate portrayal of what it’s like. Your entire body is just in the grips of agony, incredible agony second to second that seems to last forever, and then BAM....you’re suddenly awake.
Watching this scene and scrolling through the comments. I read yours.
"And then BAM.... you're suddenly awake". As a person who is tormented with alcoholism, this actually stopped me in my tracks and made me cry. Don't know why, but this is one of the most powerful statements I've ever heard. And not just for those suffering from alcohol, but anything. You should copyright that shit and put it on shirts, coffee mugs, and everything else. Don't usually comment on anything, but felt like I had to let you know that that statement will change my life, and I will hold on to it and spread it till I die. ❤️
@@Elton-zu3doi suffer from alcoholism and those words give me hope. ❤
Went through a real dark phase where I was basically alone and dealing with a lot of painful memories. Turned to drinking and was drinking about 750 ml of whiskey a night for months. Ended up getting a rare throat infection called epiglotitis which put me in the hospital and I began withdrawing terribly. First night I kept waking up unable to breathe because of the epglotitis, insane heart rate of 155-165 and very high blood pressure ( this indicated the withdrawal early on) then the hallucinations and DT’s began. I was absolutely terrified and screaming at stuff that was not there. I would sob and apologize to a ghost who was not there. The terror was mixed with doses of extreme anger where I would fight to get out of bed and pulled out IV’s so they strapped my arms and legs down. Nurse told me it was the saddest thing she ever saw because she could tell I was in so much pain and how when I was a little coherent i would apologize profusely to all the nurses and beg them not be mad at me. I dont remember a lot but I know that I could barely stand for days. Spent 6 days in the icu and another 4 in regular care. At that point I was demanding the doctors release me, which I had been doing a lot because after the serious dt's ended I felt so much anger. They finally did and I remember putting on these scrub pants that were way too big for me that the hospital provided since my clothes were so dirty from getting sick when I was first emitted. They then gave me a shirt and some slippers. I then stumbled out of the hospital, barely able to walk because of either the meds or because my body was so exhausted after what it went through. Since I was taken from an urgent care by ambulance I had no car (which was good bc like I said, I could barely walk at all) I had to walk home which was about 1.2 miles away. It was freezing cold and drizzling and I stumbled and fell all over the place as I pushed home. Then I stopped at a liquor store, grabbed a handle of vodka and cranberry juice, and walked the rest of the way. By the time I got home I was shivering worst then I ever have in my life, covered in mud. blood, scrapes, and bruises from falling so much, but so happy to fall on my bed and start drinking. Nearly finished the handle and passed out. Went right back to how I was but even worse for the next 10 days. Then I realized I had to stop. Spent another 5 days in hospital, 2 in icu, bad withdrawals but not at bad as the first time. The doctors really opened up to me and showed so much compassion, something I had not experienced for years. I still struggled severely but began working to stop. I hope I can win this battle, for the people who I know love me that I have hurt so much. I want to be able to reach out and let them know how bad I am. But talking about myself and asking for help is next to impossible. I just cant bring myself to do it. I hope I can eventually because I know if I don't, I will not be alive much longer. I just keep telling myself that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, and I gotta keep fighting through the darkness.
that's really sad, i hope you're sober now
But what if those ghost you saw were really there.... what if they were watching you just waiting for you to say sorry...
I also had DT’s before. I heard a horrible voice telling me to jump out of my flat window. That experience got me sober
I'm sorry I wasn't there to help you..
Dear god brother, god bless you man. Trust me there are people that wish well for you that you are not aware of, stay strong.
Poor bastard, taking on PTSD and alcohol withdrawal at once. Can you say PAINFUL.
I would describe it as torturous. Yet we must hit the lowest point before we can rise up.
What's ptsd
dikaiopolis ho post traumatic stress disorder. Many people who have gone through a traumatic experience such as war/rape experience it
MJSpiritual I do that every other weekend this scene makes me cry everytime I see it because I know what it means...
Yep.
its not a hangover. They are depicting alcohol withdrawal. Tom Cruise did a pretty good job too. I don't remember from the movie if it was just the one night or if he was out for several days. but i reality this is what you go through for a couple days. and with the kind of drinking he was doing, it would take about about a week to feel normal again. scary stuff.
It's not simply an alcohol withdrawal, it's PTSD. It takes one to know one...and it doesn' pass over night.
Withdrawal can be an absolute nightmare like this. One of the toughest things I ever had to endure. Like Cruise, I was just using it avoid pain...but it just begins a cycle of needing alcohol...then it making you anxious/scared...which causes you to drink more. Vicious cycle.
+Baraber Drava it's both, he became a drunk to forget his trauma. Now that he's off the alcohol, his PTSD has teamed up with the he alcohol withdrawal for some nasty shit.
During Nursing School clinicals, I was caring for a patient that was a former morphine addict that was experiencing a relapse because of his medical condition. It was similar to this scene; substitute sake with morphine. And quite a bit more cursing. However, as someone in another comment stated, the condition continued on for days vs however long this scene implies. Regardless, recalling the experience has made me appreciate this movie and Tom Cruise's acting a bit more.
Congratulations on what you have accomplished. Its a terrible thing to overcome but always worth it.
I've gone through alcohol and heroin withdrawals and the alcohol withdrawal was WAY worse than anything else and it's legal and considered normal to drink. Watching this scene gave me some horrible flashbacks.
Diego Romero if your off them now, my man, keep up the fight
Diego Romero Samurai alcohol withdrawal is worse because it can actually kill you
Heroin withdrawal is a b**** but it cannot kill you alcohol withdrawal is worse because it can actually kill you where heroin feels bad but it cannot kill you
@Lester Green I have a huge problem repeating myself because I feel like if I don't do that the person doesn't understand I have genius level like you and so I want to impart knowledge to somebody but I feel like if I don't repeat it they're not going to understand I apologize anyway
@Lester Green I went to Princeton University I have a degree not only a degree I have a PhD I've lived here all my life in Princeton I just want to import knowledge to people I apologize I just wanted to say something and I feel like if I don't repeat myself you will understand the first time I said it to you I feel like you're off in space and so I have to say it a few times I apologize I'm sorry
@Lester Green I repeat myself because I feel like if I don't you won't understand the first time maybe the second time you're going to understand but I feel like by the third or fourth you will understand I apologize
I believe Katsumoto knew what Algren was going through.
I dont think he did. i think he only understood that this warrior was deeply ashamed of his actions and wished for death.
@@markmartinez6317 He did know and understand to some extent, he mentions it later while talking to him
@@markmartinez6317 I think the scene is clearly showing that Katsumoto is praying for Algren, therefore he knew
because it happens to men that have seen what they have seen, but more so because algren was ashamed of what he has done.
With respect, I think Katsumoto felt what Algren was feeling once he got to know him. Katsumoto spoke of how he didn't enjoy taking lives on the battlefield and how it affected him too. It was only Katsumotos wisdom and his meditation training (and not being an alcoholic) that helped him get through it.
As someone with a PTSD episode and withdrawal of medication for PTSD. This really defines going without medication and suffering of PTSD.
At night when you try to sleep, you will keep seeing the traumas before your eyes. Ever time you fall a sleep you will wake up shaken in cold sweat fearing of death or conflicts.
It’s really hell on earth to go to sleep in a sober way.
However, once you’re mind is healed and becomes peace with everything around you. You will understand how your mind and soul connects back with nature.
This movie describe that proces perfect.
I thought that Sake meant liquor but either way he is asking for it so he can forget the pain of his wounds and the haunting past of killing the Indians. My heart hurt in this scene because of the trauma he had to go through. This movie is one of the best. We need more movies like this now. Please make more!!!
Thanks for uploading.
The Real Deal Horses he's asking for it because he's withdrawing
Diego Romero true, but he also used it to quiet the nightmares. So, it’s a double whammy.
The Real Deal Horses His character is an alcoholic and without a certain amount of alcohol in his system he has severe alcohol withdrawals with is absolutely horrible and can actually kill a person.
What started as a coping mechanism for PTSD ended up turning into an addiction, while not treating the cause for his pain. So when he is visibly shaking from withdrawal, at the same time the haunting memories keep coming back too.
No it’s like wine
saw this movie as a kid and rewatched it recently now i know why its a masterpiece
2:28 The scream of Algren perfectly matched with the meditation of Katsumoto.
While, algren was dependent on wine and was helpless without it, Katsumoto learnt the ways of meditation. Their problems were same.
This is a painfully accurate representation of PTSD
Yes but alcohol withdrawal as well being traumatized is bad enough but an alcoholic withdrawal is hell on Earth
I've had both so not talking for the sake of talking
@@mr.anderson6040the SAKEEEEEEE of talking
Incredibly powerful scene & brilliant story telling fluidity!!
I wondered what Japanese would think of native Americans especially samurai
no words....i can relate....
NOOOOOOOOOO
French with English subtitles... awesome... Powerful scene, it the scene i remember the most from the movie
I saw a good bit of people saying that scene is funny like how is that funny at all he is calling out for alcohol so he can not see the memories and it pisses me off
They don’t know alcohol detox is the worst of any possible detox... can even kill with seizures
The nature of humor is tragedy plus time. Just as someone falling and hurting themselves can be absolutely hilarious, so too can a man wiggling around on the floor yelling for booze. When you consider that it also sounds a bit like the old "sucky sucky" meme that makes it twice as humorous.
August Varney saki... I’ve had it it’s a little bit stronger than wine (between wine and liquor)... it’s actually pretty good. If you go to any Japanese restaurant or teppanyaki (where they cook the food in front of you) it’s nice. But yea severe withdrawal an addict needs the alcohol, if hospitals or detox isn’t available they need to taper off it slowly. Cold turkey is brutal and like a 10% or more chance of death usually by seizures.
I really do this scene so much. Because I have been drinking. Vodka literally for the past 2 and a 1/2 years. Every day all day, 7 days a week. And somehow Managed to hold down a job. I am scared to stop drinking because of my memories. And I have tried to stop drinking many times but I go through horrific. Horrible seizures, seizures shaking shaking. And I relate to this scene very, very much.
I don't feel I'm a bad person. I just tried to kill my memory
oh man, that look he had when he realized that algren had a problem with alcohol was something.
I think of this scene literally every time I get wasted on sake. Good times.
The wife’s husband has nightmares just like Algren did
The wife will probably have them now too, as her husband's killer is sitting in her spare room screaming for alcohol and terrifying her. It literally makes her ask Katsumoto to grant her leave to kill herself. Rosy glasses it puts on later aside, having the man who destroyed your marriage and made your children fatherless become your unwelcome guest would be traumatic in the extreme.
Our sins are like splinters in our mind...
You must make the splinters.....dust
Alcohol withdrawal is hell. Opioids and stimulants get all the headlines, but alcohol is far worse. Withdrawal can and will kill you without medical intervention, and the post-acute phase is long and drawn out. Worked with addicts for years (including detox) and had a period of addiction myself years ago, and this is very accurate
1:56 me trying to sleep with toothache
Relatable af...
It's a sad scene!! =/
We all have sort of same pain inside of us .. we all did mistakes we all need to scream that : noooooooooooo
But not all of us have an entire distillery's worth of alcohol in our systems on the daily, so we're able to deal with it a hell of a lot better.
I cri everi tiem
Lol, I came here only because of your video.
:c
This part of the movie is dark and rather upsetting
A soldier, veteran of combat, will never face an enemy more deadly that the demons in his own mind. He needs the support of his buddies and family more than ever when he faces that fight. some never get it, and remain a casualty for the rest of their life,...... long.....or short.
Alcohol withdrawal I can feel you man !!!
Great movie, I went thru that... I was drinking heavily pint of absinthe... Went through hell
I once had this same problem with alcohol and it's truly horrible. It makes you feel like you are an absolute trash because you didn't live some experiences of your past the way you wanted them to live.
In resume, it makes you hate yourself.
It brings up everything bad you've ever done it's truly a nightmare
I'm glad you came out without hurting yourself I understand your pain believe me
Constant constant start repeat start repeat start repeat I'm happy that you made it sincerely
Best scene ever
Idk why I thought this was from The Wolverine and then I remembered it was the last samurai. Maybe the Japanese elements
When you've run out of toilet paper....
2:05
Applies now 😏
Its the best music to hear with sunset and shisha
He's having nightmares of Goose.
LMFAOOOOOOOO
Hahahahaha
HIGHWAY TO THE DANGER ZONE!!!!!!
God please help me 😢
Me after one night of drinking.
I've been through withdrawals and this is the most accurate depiction of it
Who else has to close one eye in order to watch this video without having double vision?
The wounds and alcohol withdrawal would are terrible enough. But the PTSD is the worst.
This is me now. Every night for about 3 months now.
It isn't exactly... a good idea. Nor does it seem escapeable. The prison is strong. Definitely more impenetrable than anything physical.
I pray that no one end up where I am. It's not a retrievable position. You'd be just as lost as am I--never to return.
did u make it?
We are not built to kill and when we do we remember every face that we do !
I also had ptsd sometimes i also remember all my friends
Inner guilt of captain was killing him
they dont know the truth .......
This isn't Tom Cruise... although the guy yelling does do a good job
Indeed it is not Tom Cruise, this is the french voice actor Jean-Philippe Puymartin.
Parfait, merci.
Amazing scene
Many Warriors Have Went Thru Something similar to this.... One night Of Fierce Terrifying Nightmares is All It Usually Takes💎♠️🌹👑
I know how he feels :'(
me too
Yeah, me too
Me three😢
A very historically inaccurate movie but a damn good one!
This is what Scientology will drive you to.
I have the same screams inside .. in my inner soul .. but cant shout cant yell ... noooooooooooooo
0:53 the scene when both japanese see each another reallizing that this man (Aldren) is broken.
This scene man
Every soldier has nightmares
“Only those who are ashamed of what they have done.”
if u haven't been through alcoholism, you can't fully appreciate this scene
RLP1989 imagine gatekeeping alcoholism
as a former alcoholic...this is what i believe i one of the main reasons why its so scary ttry and quit
They actually understood alcoholism.(sake) is like wine. If you’ve ever been to teppanyaki. (Sake) is basically as strong as wine if not stronger
Charlie Dallachie sake is stronger
Basileus Kōnstantinos XI it’s between wine and light liquor, I’ve had it.
The prober way is called detox, most hospitals will just put an IV in you and see you through. It’s rough to do alone.
It's rice fermented wine. I can vouch is strong and takes an acquired tasted to drink it.
nothing is worse than having PTSD and suffering pyschosis from alcohol. Ruined many friendships and a relationship. You really aren't yourself anymore.
Man tramadol withdrawal is the worst
I feel you brother
This film is a masterpiece
The thing with alcohol detox is... the movie does it well for the most part, but where he just "wakes up" and is normal? Totally false. Depending on how much you need to withdraw you literally cannot even stand up for a week or so. But I get it, it's a movie...
This made me cry 😔
Beer!
Sasukeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !
SAKEEEEEEE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! I TOLD YOU!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Captain allgran dreaming about SAKE she die for honor and happiness
Its not just memories or drinking
Its the worst memories of dark, horror , sad scenes of war. Many veterans are shout at night coz of them or when they were soldiers and were forced to see something unhuman horror evil scene or ordered to do and it was against the "Rules of War " ( Genocides.. ) or they just didn't accept the Reality that they were in Hell of a Battlefield and scenes like that always are about to be happened ( explosion few mtrs away and pieces everywhere of a companion ) etc..
Junkies think they know what a hard withdrawal is they have nothing on alcoholics I say this as a former alcoholic the dreams alone are nightmares literally
If you ever party to much with Alcohol this is what detox can look like. What it can't show is the inner turmoil that is the most difficult to get away from. Stay away from drugs and alcohol people :-)
That woman is gorgeous.
Of course, she's a cat.
its sad because i deal with this all the time.. addiction is a real pandemic that we should focus on more
Dude was chugging whiskey every day. Sake can get strong, and can help but I can't imagine it being enough. Then going cold turkey? Ugh.
Me every morning:
This movie was really flames though
1:42 why would he say s'il vous plait?
Zann Productions he is saying "give me sake please"
Because this is the french version of the movie.
no i say : je vous ai dit (french)... i told you T.T he speak alone
Probably because he knows French and from what he's going through doesn't know what else to say
sacate unas rayas... SAKEEEEEEEEEEE!
Oh I've been there horrible indescribable
Addiction sucks..🇺🇸🇺🇸
Syke... Clever
SAAKEEEEÈ
I was bad at drinking one time never seem to get withdrawals just up and quit
SAKE! SAKE! TOM CRUZ WANT SAKE!
in het frans amai, amai amai
He drinks because he was depressed on the the real horrific things he saw on the side he was on. The squad he was a part of killed innocent Indians while he watched in horror and only shot at some that were suffering so he ended it for them.
lol
Withdrawal is kinda like breaking a leg or giving birth in that there's two kinds of people; those who have felt it and those who can only imagine it. In my own experience, think of the hungriest you've ever been. The thirstiest you've ever been. Withdrawal is a little like that, only food or water won't do shit. My whole brain felt like a bag of snakes and my body felt as weak as a baby. There's a reason why doctors won't let you go cold turkey.
Poor thing. Poor thing. Poor thing. This looks terribly painful.
God kill me!!!
It hurts to see someone suffer so much!!
Fuck man got no Beer in my House i feel so fucking with him.