@@fdk7014 Last time me and a few friends played around with an alcometer while drinking it showed less for each consecutive blow. I don't trust the cheap ones, even the justice system in my country don't trust the professional ones used by cops in the field and that should say something.
Yeah there are so many variables at play. Even if we retook the test drinking the same amount during the same time period other factors come in to play such as hydration and time of last meal. It’s a tricky one to control for but we’re thinking of some ways to do that for another round.
@@TheBrulosophyShow If you calibrate it properly I've found the alcodroid app on the android store is pretty accurate. Could use that for a baseline and the breath tester to see the difference.
I'd love to see this test replicated without the use of yeast just to see what the alcohol levels are and how different they would be. 0.08 is the legal limit here in Vermont so that seems to work quite well.
On a somewhat unrelated note I read that you can take yeast supplements to keep mosquitos from biting you. And in my experience I rarely get bit but my wife gets bombarded. Not sure if it’s related to all the beer I consume but might be worth an experiment Martin!
Yeah, it's called auto-brewery syndrome. It's really rare, though, and I think almost all cases occur because some sort of immune deficiency or other issues keeping the body from killing off the yeast.
Yeah, if anything, you would want to consume acetobacter, a bacteria that consumes alcohol and excretes vinegar. Only thing is - it needs lots of oxygen to survive. I doubt there is much oxygen in your digestive system.
Bread yeast is the same species as ale yeast. Saccharomyces cerevisiae. Never tried to make beer with bread yeast. But i do occasionally make bread with leftover beer yeast.
Having controls in the group would have been good. Including pairs, one with with and without yeast, would give greater confidence. For example, suppose that the breathalyser did not work?
There are so many potential variables here. Maybe your breathalyser is simply broken. At very least you need to repeat the test, keeping everything the same as much as possible (including what you ate beforehand) and leave the yeast out of it.
Needs a control group. At least one person can't eat the yeast who weighs the same and drinks about on average as much as the other person. That way you can rule out breathalizer discrepancies.
@@j4ustin Wouldn't hurt either. But repeating the experiment with the same people with everything else as close as possible to the original, minus the yeast, would also give reasonable results. The results here are pure speculation.
Yep adding a non yeast eater would still leave a lot of variables. The true test would be to do this again keeping everything exactly the same except for the yeast.
Maybe someone already suggested it (I didn’t read all the comments), but you should try milk thistle extract. It does wonders in keeping you sober. …and no hangover too ;)
A blood alcohol would be awesome to see. You can get vastly different results as the breathalyzer is a test of recency vs your BAC which would give us a more accurate idea off your intoxication. It would also probably leave us with more questions than answers though 😂 great video
Ok, Ok, ok. Wait what? When I first saw this I was like right, no way. Then you guys showed me that its totally possible. Im going to need to try this at the next holiday party for sure.
Feel it's a little misleading. The yeast itself is not doing anything, its the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase that you mentioned is in the dried yeast that would be stopping you from getting drunk. Might as well supplement with the enzyme rather than the yeast
I don't know if this makes a difference, but... that guy using "Gogurt" would not bring any of the probiotic yogurt bacteria into the equation, since I'm pretty sure "yogurt" products like Gogurt are pasteurized. Also... I know yeast eats sugar to make alcohol, but does yeast further eat alcohol turning it into something else? I thought that in the cases of Kombucha and Vinegar, the original alcohol generated by yeasts is mostly or entirely eaten/transformed after being created, but not by yeasts, rather by various strains of bacteria.
Looks fun! I think I may have done something similar to this on accident with some hastily prepared Pizza dough.. Also now I want a whisky bottle with Helen’s party descriptions as volume markers!🍻
I'd be curious to see this done with a similar diet for everyone between two days. first day just drink on a schedule, checking the breathalyzer at certain points. second day (which doesn't have to be the day after necessarily, sometime kind of close though, maybe same day next week) do this with the yeast, drink about the same across the same period of time, checking the breathalyzer at those certain points. I just feel like "how do you feel" or showing it not going up much doesn't mean a whole lot. Cool thought though, even if it sounds like it may not be worth it in the end
As an exBEERiment reader and fan, I´m curious about where this new channel is heading. Just one suggestion: don´t fall into the clickbait traps. I do love homebrewing, like 2 decades of love. Been drinking alcohol for more than 3. Promoting hacks to drink lotsa booze is kinda like "hey kid, try this out next party and you might drive home sober". So I hope you make this just as true as your legendary (and responsible) website is.
I did this after hearing Mr boston brewers secret about 15 years ago. I killed a 12 pack of his beer without a slight buzz.....it worked!!! .......now having said that, the next day was hell on earth. I felt just like I should have if I drank that 12 pack without the yeast 😆
"There’s some science backing this up..." No, there is not. There are a couple anecdotes backing this up, from Owades and Koch. Anecdotes are not data. The idea behind this is based simply on the "appeal to authority" fallacy.
@@TheBrulosophyShow Getting a patent does not require peer-reviewed research published in a credible scientific journal. Owades's case proves that, doesn't it? In no way should a patent, on its own, be considered data or scientifically valid.
Yep I agree. But it’s also a bit more than anecdotes and fallacy. The patent describes 6 data points which is a tiny sample size. All the more reason for us to test it out 😃
@@TheBrulosophyShow "But it’s also a bit more than anecdotes and fallacy." But my point is, it's not. In a totally anecdotal claim where n = 6, the "results" are completely, totally, utterly meaningless. It was a fun test, to be sure, and I wish I was one of the samplers 🤪. But come on. Did Owade perhaps have a financial interest in his un-peer-reviewed anecdotes, his trivial-sample-size patent application? It's fine putting his "results" to the test in the name of edutainment, but don't claim that there is a scientific basis here.
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I wish you had one person who drank alongside, but *didn't* take yeast. See if there was actually any difference.
Yes. They needed a control. I think that alcometer is broken. Home alcometers are usually pretty crap
Would be great, also everybody takes alcohol differently. So you should have done this two times, once with yeast on one time without
@@fdk7014 Last time me and a few friends played around with an alcometer while drinking it showed less for each consecutive blow. I don't trust the cheap ones, even the justice system in my country don't trust the professional ones used by cops in the field and that should say something.
Yeah there are so many variables at play. Even if we retook the test drinking the same amount during the same time period other factors come in to play such as hydration and time of last meal. It’s a tricky one to control for but we’re thinking of some ways to do that for another round.
@@TheBrulosophyShow If you calibrate it properly I've found the alcodroid app on the android store is pretty accurate. Could use that for a baseline and the breath tester to see the difference.
I'd love to see this test replicated without the use of yeast just to see what the alcohol levels are and how different they would be. 0.08 is the legal limit here in Vermont so that seems to work quite well.
Great experiment! I guess the real question here is - Was the gas actually that terrible?
As a homebrewer who samples yeasty beers all the time, I can confirm. Even smaller doses of yeast make some terrible gas.
I’ll let Helen and Joe speak for themselves. I was fortunate not to experience the symptoms Marshall mentioned -Martin
Was waiting for the next day follow up!
On a somewhat unrelated note I read that you can take yeast supplements to keep mosquitos from biting you. And in my experience I rarely get bit but my wife gets bombarded. Not sure if it’s related to all the beer I consume but might be worth an experiment Martin!
Iiiiiiinteresting. I get devoured by mosquitos every summer. Maybe I need to kick a few more back and see if that helps. lol
Yet another benefit of homebrewing!
In the UK we have a yeast extract called Marmite (you'll either love it or hate it!), it seems to do the same trick.
@@dudestewbrews or yah smell like poop more. Lol 😅
@@gonzos-twin Hey, as long as it leads to less mosquito bites. lol
So, how was the gas? Great little experiment Martin, cheers Cheers.
Yeah, he left us hanging there. How was the next day Martin? lol
No side effects. I think Marshall consumed a bit more dry yeast than we did.
I read awhile back this could really mess up your gut biome. There was a guy that drank juice and got drunk because it was fermenting in his stomach.
Yeah, it's called auto-brewery syndrome. It's really rare, though, and I think almost all cases occur because some sort of immune deficiency or other issues keeping the body from killing off the yeast.
that’s caused by other factors, not by drinking yeast
Cheers!
So much for being dry eh
Also, if yeast consumed the alcohol, why is there alcohol in the fermented beer? Why doesn't the yeast consume that?
Yeah, if anything, you would want to consume acetobacter, a bacteria that consumes alcohol and excretes vinegar. Only thing is - it needs lots of oxygen to survive. I doubt there is much oxygen in your digestive system.
I think Martin mentioned, that there is some enzyme in those active dry yeast packets, that breaks down alcohol.
@@tamascserteg But you can use regular bread yeast to make beer
Bread yeast is the same species as ale yeast. Saccharomyces cerevisiae. Never tried to make beer with bread yeast. But i do occasionally make bread with leftover beer yeast.
Maybe it does but can only consume so much? Then we are left with a predictable amount of alcohol after they’ve done their thing
Having controls in the group would have been good. Including pairs, one with with and without yeast, would give greater confidence. For example, suppose that the breathalyser did not work?
What if just the fat is the trick to less absorption? Just like how your body absorbs less sugar if you eat fat first.
did you try the same process, but no yeast-yogurt appetizer first (for comparison)?
When did you eat? right before the yeast? I feel thats an important variable too
Can’t believe you didn’t record and post footage of the gas.
Need a gas update!
And you should have had a control group that did not eat yeast.
Can yogurt help to not drunk?
There are so many potential variables here. Maybe your breathalyser is simply broken. At very least you need to repeat the test, keeping everything the same as much as possible (including what you ate beforehand) and leave the yeast out of it.
this
Needs a control group. At least one person can't eat the yeast who weighs the same and drinks about on average as much as the other person. That way you can rule out breathalizer discrepancies.
@@j4ustin Wouldn't hurt either. But repeating the experiment with the same people with everything else as close as possible to the original, minus the yeast, would also give reasonable results. The results here are pure speculation.
Yep adding a non yeast eater would still leave a lot of variables. The true test would be to do this again keeping everything exactly the same except for the yeast.
Maybe someone already suggested it (I didn’t read all the comments), but you should try milk thistle extract. It does wonders in keeping you sober. …and no hangover too ;)
Fun times! But yep, as the others say in the comments... Gas update!
Control test: drink and make sure the meter shows a proportional increase? Otherwise how do you know the meter doesn't read 0.03/0.04 the whole time?
A blood alcohol would be awesome to see. You can get vastly different results as the breathalyzer is a test of recency vs your BAC which would give us a more accurate idea off your intoxication. It would also probably leave us with more questions than answers though 😂 great video
Ok, Ok, ok. Wait what? When I first saw this I was like right, no way. Then you guys showed me that its totally possible. Im going to need to try this at the next holiday party for sure.
Feel it's a little misleading. The yeast itself is not doing anything, its the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase that you mentioned is in the dried yeast that would be stopping you from getting drunk. Might as well supplement with the enzyme rather than the yeast
Over what time period did all of you consume all the alchohol? Cause the common wisdom is that the body metabolizes about 1 drink per hour
However long it took to finish a drink (maybe 15 mins) followed by the 15 min breathalyzer break. That one hour rule would be fun to test out.
This is awesome! haha
I don't know if this makes a difference, but... that guy using "Gogurt" would not bring any of the probiotic yogurt bacteria into the equation, since I'm pretty sure "yogurt" products like Gogurt are pasteurized. Also... I know yeast eats sugar to make alcohol, but does yeast further eat alcohol turning it into something else? I thought that in the cases of Kombucha and Vinegar, the original alcohol generated by yeasts is mostly or entirely eaten/transformed after being created, but not by yeasts, rather by various strains of bacteria.
Looks fun! I think I may have done something similar to this on accident with some hastily prepared Pizza dough..
Also now I want a whisky bottle with Helen’s party descriptions as volume markers!🍻
LOL. A “good” night…
So curious!!!
I'd be curious to see this done with a similar diet for everyone between two days. first day just drink on a schedule, checking the breathalyzer at certain points. second day (which doesn't have to be the day after necessarily, sometime kind of close though, maybe same day next week) do this with the yeast, drink about the same across the same period of time, checking the breathalyzer at those certain points. I just feel like "how do you feel" or showing it not going up much doesn't mean a whole lot. Cool thought though, even if it sounds like it may not be worth it in the end
No control. That's an important omission
That means that you can drive a car after 4 drinks?
They sound pretty pissed at the end there. 😆
As an exBEERiment reader and fan, I´m curious about where this new channel is heading. Just one suggestion: don´t fall into the clickbait traps. I do love homebrewing, like 2 decades of love. Been drinking alcohol for more than 3. Promoting hacks to drink lotsa booze is kinda like "hey kid, try this out next party and you might drive home sober". So I hope you make this just as true as your legendary (and responsible) website is.
This was just a bit of fun with my next door neighbors. Nobody got in a car after this. Next week it’s back to brew day videos.
Take enough yeast and you might come back around to autobrewery 😆
I did this after hearing Mr boston brewers secret about 15 years ago. I killed a 12 pack of his beer without a slight buzz.....it worked!!! .......now having said that, the next day was hell on earth. I felt just like I should have if I drank that 12 pack without the yeast 😆
Getting drunk for science!😂
I'm very skeptical. It might have a marginal effect but to almost completely eliminate the effect of the alcohol, no way.
The point of over drinking is to get drunk.
Calling Cooks's champagne is like calling Budweiser a german pilsner
😆. Don’t tell Helen.
No thanks
Kudos to Joe, that was a serious amount of whisky he imbibed and he seemed relatively sober! Maybe there really is something in this...
"There’s some science backing this up..." No, there is not. There are a couple anecdotes backing this up, from Owades and Koch. Anecdotes are not data. The idea behind this is based simply on the "appeal to authority" fallacy.
..well that and the issued US patent.
@@TheBrulosophyShow Getting a patent does not require peer-reviewed research published in a credible scientific journal. Owades's case proves that, doesn't it? In no way should a patent, on its own, be considered data or scientifically valid.
Yep I agree. But it’s also a bit more than anecdotes and fallacy. The patent describes 6 data points which is a tiny sample size. All the more reason for us to test it out 😃
@@TheBrulosophyShow "But it’s also a bit more than anecdotes and fallacy." But my point is, it's not. In a totally anecdotal claim where n = 6, the "results" are completely, totally, utterly meaningless. It was a fun test, to be sure, and I wish I was one of the samplers 🤪. But come on. Did Owade perhaps have a financial interest in his un-peer-reviewed anecdotes, his trivial-sample-size patent application? It's fine putting his "results" to the test in the name of edutainment, but don't claim that there is a scientific basis here.
The best way to not get drunk is to not drink.
Ok captain buzzkill.
@@oneseat1 It's only logical. Nothing else works except in fantasy land.
What a waste of alcohol lol