no but fr the entire attraction makes zero sense exercise by crawling around tubes and the safety feature is this over complicated animatronic whose only function is to sing unnervingly at you while yanking your arms to pull you through ???? It makes me actually mad thinking about anyone signing off on something like that 😂
@ShesNervous most of the stories I've read (I haven't read all of the books) are very weird lol. Like when it leans into sci-fi I'm like "well whatever it'd sci-fi) but when it's grounded and it's contrived I'm like "why?"
16:39 ya know, I always liked Michael seeking to atone for what happened. I loved Dual Processes’ Vengeful Michael, but mostly as a fun AU. And with a lot of Michael’s actions and motivations being questioned, it was harder to hold on to the original idea of Michael I once had. I tend to view all theories as headcanons and aus that are great fanon interpretations of the stories. But it’s easy to get lost in the sauce. And your interpretation has kinda helped re-ground it in what was once the most widely accepted (and probably the most true intention) of Mike’s character. There’s no greater honor than dying/killing for the safety of a child, and I’m glad Luka got as close to a happy ending as he could (despite him also being a child) … I’ve rabbit trailed and I’m getting a little lost. It was an awesome video! Thanks for the literature analysis! Stay safe and sane!!
If we'd been shown the office from Pizzaria Simulator when it burns, Michael would be sitting there, legs up on the desk, looking over and grinning, while giving Scraptrap the finger through the vent. Then, as he notice the feed, lights a cigar on the burning PC, leaning back and enjoying his final moment. His father's legacy of tormented souls, a broken family, the weight of a cursed bloodline that is finally lifted, and the icing on the cake; He finally did a great job as a night guard AND a pizza manager! (Sure, he'd burn to death, but he finally didn't get fired at the end of his week)
I'm vibing with the Micheal interpretation. One thing that always drives me crazy is Henry's line "...who somehow found a job posting not intended for you" Who was it intended for??? William? Some other person? One of the bully bros??? W H O??
I think Henry just expected someone completely disconnected who would just go along with the job. He just got lucky that he got a guy who specializes in the job and was already invested in the goal. (also guessing he was either unaware of Mikes scooping survival until he showed up or he was just a low priority/optional to paragraph 4 since Mike wasn’t a danger).
@SingingSealRiana It just doesn't sit right with me 😅 He calls him a volunteer, not an employee. If the job was for anyone, noting it Wasn't for him creates an exception. Henry addresses everyone directly in some way, Elizabeth by name, my daughter, old friend, but no mention of CC (shatter victim or golden duo, notwithstanding) and there's no acknowledgement of knowing the player He says there was an escape route but never actually offers it, even if he assumes the manager wants to stay. Baby is surprised to see us and indicates she either expected William or believes he's behind the whole thing... somehow Idk it just rumbles around my head any time i hear henrys speech 🙃
There’s two people who come to mind The FNAF 2 bite victim without a frontal lobe (I forgot their name) And Copellia I don’t have any evidence for either, just what came to my mind Henry was most likely unaware that Micheal was alive
Honestly, I think the ending of Cleithrophobia is the most intriguing part when compared to CC's story. He was fully aware of what was happening around him, but was unable to speak or move to prove he was alive. In CC's case, it makes sense for him to fall into a coma after the bite, unable to move or speak, but still able to hear his brother apologize, and still able to feel whatever William decided to do in an attempt to "put him back together." Michael doesn't even know that his brother is still in there, suffering his father's experiments and calling out for help, even after he's long gone. "It's me, I'm here, I need you to come find me."
awwww oh my gosh I love this connection Im so glad you pointed it out because I was struggling to make anything of it beyond the childhood trauma being similar
Peerpressure is what got Cc bullied and killed in the first place, whatever sirectly or indirectly, mike most likely rebelled against taking on the responsibility to parent his younger brother cause he hurt mikes standing with his friends
Your description of Luka’s story reminds me of how Ralf the Phone Guy dies in The Week Before in the ending you play with the bonus item. He gets a message from an undercover journalist that died investigating Freddy’s that the animatronics are planning to escape and wreak havoc and chooses to work one more night at Freddy’s to stop the animatronics from escaping. He completed his last day of work at Freddy’s and could have moved on, but he chose to stay an extra night so that the animatronics won’t go after his daughter. On his sixth night, after he has foiled the animatronics’ escape plan, he is confronted by Golden Freddy. But, he hears the voice of the deceased journalist telling him that his daughter is safe now and Ralf dies peacefully. It is also implied that he gets ultimately stuffed inside a suit in FNAF 1 and he does get stuffed in at least a few of the game over endings, so Ralf dying inside an animatronic suit also parallels Luka’s death. But, what do I know? I’m just a casual FNAF lore enjoyer.
I really don't get Cleithrophobia as a story.The whole thing feels contrived and you know, fat-shaming. I could see the horror being psychological if, in fact, the protagonist is scared to move, forced to by friends, and then shuts down while Ballora decides to move the kid on her own. His complete dissociation causes the horror to happen because the audience knows what's happening, but he does not. It becomes a cautionary tale about knowing your own triggers and standing up to peers. That's just, not what we got, and I'm disappointed.
agree agree agree If I had to rate that story it would be F tier. I do not understand its purpose unless it's to warn people against getting fat which is ... objectively problematic.
@@SingingSealRiana Absolutely. It gets even worse when you realize these "tubes" are basically playground equipment. These things are made big enough for adults to fit in so you don't need to call the fire brigade to use the jaws of life to get a tantrum kid, or a scared kid, out of there. Ballora fits in these things. Even without legs, her torso is, what, twice the size of the average adult? Having the kid be ridiculously rotund is just an easy way to narratively set up the scare, and it doesn't work on a logical level or on a humane one.
Oh boy, can't wait for people to pull this shit onto Twitter and call Scott a bigot again -_-. Like I don't know if you get it but most of these stories are kinda... half made, look at Fazgoo and Springtrap impregnating a guy(both in Fazbear's frights) really meh story but its not being fat shaming
@WilliamAfton1946 I'm a professional writer. I know these stories are lazy and clearly written fast for profit. I even gave an alternative to setting up the scare in my original post. I simply said that the story is not good and that the theme of peer pressure is not addressed in favor of dehumanizing and punishing a fat child. Quite frankly, all of FNaF is a terrible example of narrative craft. This story exhibits the worst of writing flaws both in horror and in the franchise, in that it does nothing but confuse the audience and drops focus on its own premise. Edit: And I say this as a fan of Kingdom Hearts, another messy story.
Interesting enough I think a timeline where in " theory," the crying child survived, but Michael dies and goes on to haunt five nights at Freddie's/William would be an interesting story. Maybe the crying child would come back to stop his brother only to find he was protecting the children William killed
The way I see it, Mike's priorities are protection and redemption. Mike Shmidt in the movie is absolutely traumatized by his brother's death so it's obvious that protection makes the most sense even if in the movie it also was the wrong person in the beginning. But it's very telling to me that Mike's friends were also, at least at the time before his death, just as bullish as he was as a kid. Stubborn, not seeing the bigger picture. I think Mike's initial bullying of his brother was actually giving in to peer pressure. While Mike became more defensive of doing immoral stuff after the incident that took his brother's life. And doing the moral thing cost him his own, but he didn't care if it meant doing the right thing in the end no matter who actually became the threat.
Absolutely - I will always hold space for Michael vengeful bc I do think it has so much merit behind it, but it's just not where I'm at yet. But yeah, I definitely see Earl being a creep and your reading of why Scott would have it written that way makes a lot of sense. Wild that people said Earl put the suit there. If I had to pick a person in the story as the responsible party, I'd pick Nolan, the main bully teen who seemed to go out of his way to 1. insist Luca be Springtrap 2. lock the head on so he couldn't get it off ... how did he even know how it worked?? 3. convince the rest of the group to not go back and look for him afterwards There was at least one moment in the story where Luca catches Nolan looking at him and I can't remember the wording atm but it seemed like he could tell something was happening to Luca but didn't care. Dude made me so uncomfortable.
I had an experience like Luca's when I was a kid. It's terrible when you're stuck somewhere and can't move, but can hear all your friends playing happily just out of reach, knowing they've forgotten about you.
Damn that's crazy thinking that Michael's friends peer pressured him into getting CC bit. If you think about it, one piece of MM that people can't solve is if Michael is the couch person, then why is he being nice to CC? Maybe it's because his friends started pressuring him to bully CC?
Think about it, how older kids react when they get to one of them having their baby brother always around. With reaentment. The younger limits what they can do, nothing is less cool or fun then having to watch out for the baby and it is very likely mike got harrased for it and turned to bullying to pass that along, prove himself as cool, punish the baby for making him look bad and trying to force space to be a kid himself. That we never see a parent means that mike was parentificated and understandably fought that, but since he could not rage against the fatherx it hit the baby. Most likely he got hassled a lot and bullying the baby was his attempt to keep his friends around.... What ever directly or indirectly peer pressure absolutly had a hand in getting cc bite!!!
The books don't seem to mind children dying in horrific ways. Why don't people like the books? They're a lot more gruesome than anything in games. Good theory
cause between the good scary gruesome stories we also have the weird ass ones (springtrap mpreg and fazgoo) and the ones that are really important to the lore which is awful cause information from the books being NECESSARY to understand the games is a horrible way to tell a story.
I feel sorry for Dave/CC Afton. His mind's a mess(see fnaf world's glitch bear secret clock ending.) when he gets his memories back, there's ONLY really suffering. Then there's the possibility of the 'later that night' section of Midnight Motorist connecting directly to fnaf 4's night 6 cutscene. Sadly with the Toy Chica high school years intermission from UCN; the runaway is killed by William Afton. Toy Chica's quote: 'I'll invite him over to my house, if he doesn't come then I'll go to his house. If he doesn't open the door, I'll find a window. Chimney is always an option.' in MM Afton goes home, knocks on a door which DOES NOT open. Goes outside to FIND A WINDOW, sees it's broken and assumes the child inside the room 'ran away'. Too drunk/delusional to know he killed that individual. That Boy would be TOYSHK because he's the ONLY restless soul with NO PROVEN Grave. Cassidy and all the others get graves in FFPS, via the lore keeper ending. Dave gets nothing, most can't even agree on when he died, let alone where his body rests.
Honestly, the biggest takeaways I continue to have from the books are that if these employees were paid fairly they would care more (and thus deaths could be prevented), and that the adults in this universe *really* hate kids acting like kids.
"The children haunting the suits sought because of how they died, Michael sought peace because of how he lived..." Wow... yeah, while Dual Process' 2 hour theory seems narratively satisfying, I've come to mostly disagree with it after some thinking and watching Hyperdroid's video, like Cassidy is a separate character from the Crying Child/Dave as in the novels where they describe Cass as a girl with straight black hair (the blacked haired pigtail girl with *golden* beaded hair pins likely being her, just because someone got a different hairstyle, doesn't mean their not the same person, again bringing up and putting emphasis on the *gold colored beads*) the books may be in an alternate universe, but something that doesn't change is the character's genders, the blonde boy possessing Golden Freddy, I am sure, is definitely not Cassidy, taking from Scott himself saying once on Reddit that Cassidy & the blonde boy are both distinct characters, the boy being more somber than vengeful, Cassidy actually seems more of a helpful spirit (like the goated mother figure of the MCI that is Charlotte Emily 💚 bless her kind lil soul, she was only 3 years old yet she chose to help those poor 5 lost souls the best she could, basically being a protective mom to them) trying to help Dave regain his memories and his name, we know throughout UCN that "The One You Should Not Of Killed" is a boy, that he's hinted at being a secret 7th victim from the Chica's High School Years anime cutscenes, and he's also blonde like the kid in the movie, but that might just be a coincidence. I agree with you on believing Mike isn't the Vengeful Spirit, the evidence is good, but our boi already got his justice in FNAF 3 giving his walking rotten yellow rabbit furry corpse of a father that crowbar to the freakin undead knees (5 AM At Freddy's series reference) and setting fire to the attraction, all Mike ever wanted in his life was a break, but knowing the world of FNAF, bro would never get one besides the movie, movie Michael honestly has it better than games Michael at least for now, that doesn't mean I don't love the effort they put into it as their first video, one thing I will agree with them on tho... is that Mike really is gay as heck, I mean look at that goober walk, Will knew what he was doing when building Funtime Foxy lol
This is a shot in the dark, but you were talking about willy leaving his suit and then about a kid like Michael in a springlock suit, and my brain jumped to the sister location springlock. Also, now I'm picturing will being even more of a freak and symbioting his way to another suit (I think someone had an animation of that)
You know i was wondering why you showed up in my feed. It turns out that i saw the song you posted all those years for lullaby by mandah. I gave you a sub and i think ill see how things go.
I stand by the full Dual Process Theory interpretation of the lore, but I also really like your Michael interpretation- personally, I think I'll be combining the two into one fun compound Michael that Contains Multitudes. I quite like the idea that he both comes to terms with his role in his brother(Cassidy)'s death and as his father's accomplice, and also is still the vengeful spirit, not necessarily in spite of this peace and acceptance, but because of it. I also really love the peer pressure angle and what that might mean for Bonnie Bro, who at this point is almost certainly Cassie's father, and in turn how that might reflect onto Cassie, Gregory, and Vanessa as the next-generation cast.
wow beautiful video i really loved what u had to say about michael especially and it made me emotional i think springtrap and scraptrap have the same suit tho, and that scott just isnt the best at design consistency (but u already brought that up in a caption on-screen so, cool👍) one thing im still wondering about and was hoping u would cover is, why/how does the pizzaplex have a ballora animatronic? and is it important?
Ballora has been interpreted to be a representation of Ms. Afton. If that's the intention, then it's noteworthy that out of all the animatronics that could been shown harming a Michael parallel, Ballora was chosen.
fwiw I don't see Grady as a Michael parallel, but as for why I think they chose Ballora (and I wish I'd put this in the video but couldn't articulate my thoughts while writing that part for some reason) Grady's mom is the one who enables his junk food habits because she thinks she's helping him deal with his phobia (she probably feels guilty) But ultimately, this ends up hurting him (although i don't like the way they go about showing that it hurts him) Ballora is a motherly figure and she tries to help Grady out of the tube, but her attempts to help only hurt him. That's, in essence, what I think the moral of the story is. That indulging your kid's bad habits can have negative effects on them in adulthood. But it's just not well executed. If this was the thing, I wish they'd spent more time showing Grady's mom pushing junk food on him, buying it bc she felt guilty and then him always eating it in an attempt to please her.
the suit he uses isn't supposed to be there it's a mystery as to how it wound up in the costume room The costume Earl is wearing at the end of the story is likely the one meant to be worn
Hate to burst your bubble... But mike isnt dead. I know, i know, i wanted him to, but Bear of Vengeance HEAVILY implies otherwise. Combine that with the nods to him in SB, and its hard to say that he's not alive... As narritively unsatisfying as that may be. I like the parallel though! Subscribed.
I agree. The community tends to see characters more villanous than they actually are. Mike is a martyr, not a vengeful spirit or a loyal servant of Afton. He's an actually innocent man who kept trying to believe in the good of his father, who desperately tried to make up for his crimes, and sought to protect anyone he could. People see Mike as this unique anti-hero who's a bit of an irritated guy (like Vanessa in SB) who's only objective is to kill his father. That's reductive, and it ignores how complex Michael's character is. His story is one of redemption and mild heroism, he made horrible mistakes, was punished for it, and earned his redemption. He protects others the way he was not protected when he was younger; or more tragic yet, he protects others the way he wished someone had protected his own brother from himself... Also, the Springtrap suit could be an alternate suit. And I've seen some theories that it is the suit Burntrap is using in SB, so it has some merit (since they look kinda different).
The real question is who thought it was a good idea to put an animatronic in a bunch of tubes? She weighs like 350 pounds
no but fr the entire attraction makes zero sense
exercise by crawling around tubes and the safety feature is this over complicated animatronic whose only function is to sing unnervingly at you while yanking your arms to pull you through ????
It makes me actually mad thinking about anyone signing off on something like that 😂
@ShesNervous most of the stories I've read (I haven't read all of the books) are very weird lol. Like when it leans into sci-fi I'm like "well whatever it'd sci-fi) but when it's grounded and it's contrived I'm like "why?"
Fazbear entertainment is kinda stupid
16:39 ya know, I always liked Michael seeking to atone for what happened. I loved Dual Processes’ Vengeful Michael, but mostly as a fun AU. And with a lot of Michael’s actions and motivations being questioned, it was harder to hold on to the original idea of Michael I once had. I tend to view all theories as headcanons and aus that are great fanon interpretations of the stories. But it’s easy to get lost in the sauce. And your interpretation has kinda helped re-ground it in what was once the most widely accepted (and probably the most true intention) of Mike’s character. There’s no greater honor than dying/killing for the safety of a child, and I’m glad Luka got as close to a happy ending as he could (despite him also being a child)
… I’ve rabbit trailed and I’m getting a little lost. It was an awesome video! Thanks for the literature analysis! Stay safe and sane!!
If we'd been shown the office from Pizzaria Simulator when it burns, Michael would be sitting there, legs up on the desk, looking over and grinning, while giving Scraptrap the finger through the vent. Then, as he notice the feed, lights a cigar on the burning PC, leaning back and enjoying his final moment.
His father's legacy of tormented souls, a broken family, the weight of a cursed bloodline that is finally lifted, and the icing on the cake;
He finally did a great job as a night guard AND a pizza manager!
(Sure, he'd burn to death, but he finally didn't get fired at the end of his week)
He did get fired, though.
Isn't that just one of the endings?
I'm vibing with the Micheal interpretation. One thing that always drives me crazy is Henry's line "...who somehow found a job posting not intended for you" Who was it intended for??? William? Some other person? One of the bully bros??? W H O??
Maybe he didn't expect Michael to come there! That's why he prepared an escape plan for any other random person that might've taken the job
I think Henry just expected someone completely disconnected who would just go along with the job. He just got lucky that he got a guy who specializes in the job and was already invested in the goal. (also guessing he was either unaware of Mikes scooping survival until he showed up or he was just a low priority/optional to paragraph 4 since Mike wasn’t a danger).
Just anyone, he expected a no one to take the job and was suprised that mike showed up
@SingingSealRiana
It just doesn't sit right with me 😅
He calls him a volunteer, not an employee.
If the job was for anyone, noting it Wasn't for him creates an exception.
Henry addresses everyone directly in some way, Elizabeth by name, my daughter, old friend, but no mention of CC (shatter victim or golden duo, notwithstanding) and there's no acknowledgement of knowing the player
He says there was an escape route but never actually offers it, even if he assumes the manager wants to stay.
Baby is surprised to see us and indicates she either expected William or believes he's behind the whole thing... somehow
Idk it just rumbles around my head any time i hear henrys speech 🙃
There’s two people who come to mind
The FNAF 2 bite victim without a frontal lobe (I forgot their name)
And Copellia
I don’t have any evidence for either, just what came to my mind
Henry was most likely unaware that Micheal was alive
Honestly, I think the ending of Cleithrophobia is the most intriguing part when compared to CC's story. He was fully aware of what was happening around him, but was unable to speak or move to prove he was alive. In CC's case, it makes sense for him to fall into a coma after the bite, unable to move or speak, but still able to hear his brother apologize, and still able to feel whatever William decided to do in an attempt to "put him back together." Michael doesn't even know that his brother is still in there, suffering his father's experiments and calling out for help, even after he's long gone. "It's me, I'm here, I need you to come find me."
awwww oh my gosh I love this connection
Im so glad you pointed it out because I was struggling to make anything of it beyond the childhood trauma being similar
Peerpressure is what got Cc bullied and killed in the first place, whatever sirectly or indirectly, mike most likely rebelled against taking on the responsibility to parent his younger brother cause he hurt mikes standing with his friends
Your description of Luka’s story reminds me of how Ralf the Phone Guy dies in The Week Before in the ending you play with the bonus item. He gets a message from an undercover journalist that died investigating Freddy’s that the animatronics are planning to escape and wreak havoc and chooses to work one more night at Freddy’s to stop the animatronics from escaping. He completed his last day of work at Freddy’s and could have moved on, but he chose to stay an extra night so that the animatronics won’t go after his daughter. On his sixth night, after he has foiled the animatronics’ escape plan, he is confronted by Golden Freddy. But, he hears the voice of the deceased journalist telling him that his daughter is safe now and Ralf dies peacefully. It is also implied that he gets ultimately stuffed inside a suit in FNAF 1 and he does get stuffed in at least a few of the game over endings, so Ralf dying inside an animatronic suit also parallels Luka’s death.
But, what do I know? I’m just a casual FNAF lore enjoyer.
I also thought of Ralph while writing this script(:
I really don't get Cleithrophobia as a story.The whole thing feels contrived and you know, fat-shaming.
I could see the horror being psychological if, in fact, the protagonist is scared to move, forced to by friends, and then shuts down while Ballora decides to move the kid on her own. His complete dissociation causes the horror to happen because the audience knows what's happening, but he does not. It becomes a cautionary tale about knowing your own triggers and standing up to peers. That's just, not what we got, and I'm disappointed.
agree agree agree
If I had to rate that story it would be F tier. I do not understand its purpose unless it's to warn people against getting fat which is ... objectively problematic.
Yeah, he literally gets punished for being a good person and the "moral failing" of being big.. Thats messed up messaging
@@SingingSealRiana Absolutely. It gets even worse when you realize these "tubes" are basically playground equipment. These things are made big enough for adults to fit in so you don't need to call the fire brigade to use the jaws of life to get a tantrum kid, or a scared kid, out of there. Ballora fits in these things. Even without legs, her torso is, what, twice the size of the average adult?
Having the kid be ridiculously rotund is just an easy way to narratively set up the scare, and it doesn't work on a logical level or on a humane one.
Oh boy, can't wait for people to pull this shit onto Twitter and call Scott a bigot again -_-. Like I don't know if you get it but most of these stories are kinda... half made, look at Fazgoo and Springtrap impregnating a guy(both in Fazbear's frights) really meh story but its not being fat shaming
@WilliamAfton1946 I'm a professional writer. I know these stories are lazy and clearly written fast for profit. I even gave an alternative to setting up the scare in my original post. I simply said that the story is not good and that the theme of peer pressure is not addressed in favor of dehumanizing and punishing a fat child. Quite frankly, all of FNaF is a terrible example of narrative craft. This story exhibits the worst of writing flaws both in horror and in the franchise, in that it does nothing but confuse the audience and drops focus on its own premise.
Edit: And I say this as a fan of Kingdom Hearts, another messy story.
Interesting enough I think a timeline where in " theory," the crying child survived, but Michael dies and goes on to haunt five nights at Freddie's/William would be an interesting story. Maybe the crying child would come back to stop his brother only to find he was protecting the children William killed
Nervous bringing us that FNAF Anxietea
HAAAA that's good
The way I see it, Mike's priorities are protection and redemption. Mike Shmidt in the movie is absolutely traumatized by his brother's death so it's obvious that protection makes the most sense even if in the movie it also was the wrong person in the beginning. But it's very telling to me that Mike's friends were also, at least at the time before his death, just as bullish as he was as a kid. Stubborn, not seeing the bigger picture. I think Mike's initial bullying of his brother was actually giving in to peer pressure. While Mike became more defensive of doing immoral stuff after the incident that took his brother's life. And doing the moral thing cost him his own, but he didn't care if it meant doing the right thing in the end no matter who actually became the threat.
Ooh! Agree to disagree, I like your interpretation just as well
Absolutely - I will always hold space for Michael vengeful bc I do think it has so much merit behind it, but it's just not where I'm at yet.
But yeah, I definitely see Earl being a creep and your reading of why Scott would have it written that way makes a lot of sense.
Wild that people said Earl put the suit there. If I had to pick a person in the story as the responsible party, I'd pick Nolan, the main bully teen who seemed to go out of his way to
1. insist Luca be Springtrap
2. lock the head on so he couldn't get it off ... how did he even know how it worked??
3. convince the rest of the group to not go back and look for him afterwards
There was at least one moment in the story where Luca catches Nolan looking at him and I can't remember the wording atm but it seemed like he could tell something was happening to Luca but didn't care.
Dude made me so uncomfortable.
I had an experience like Luca's when I was a kid.
It's terrible when you're stuck somewhere and can't move, but can hear all your friends playing happily just out of reach, knowing they've forgotten about you.
Damn that's crazy thinking that Michael's friends peer pressured him into getting CC bit. If you think about it, one piece of MM that people can't solve is if Michael is the couch person, then why is he being nice to CC? Maybe it's because his friends started pressuring him to bully CC?
IT'S POSSIBLE
Think about it, how older kids react when they get to one of them having their baby brother always around. With reaentment. The younger limits what they can do, nothing is less cool or fun then having to watch out for the baby and it is very likely mike got harrased for it and turned to bullying to pass that along, prove himself as cool, punish the baby for making him look bad and trying to force space to be a kid himself. That we never see a parent means that mike was parentificated and understandably fought that, but since he could not rage against the fatherx it hit the baby.
Most likely he got hassled a lot and bullying the baby was his attempt to keep his friends around.... What ever directly or indirectly peer pressure absolutly had a hand in getting cc bite!!!
@@SingingSealRianathis, and making CC afraid of everything means he is off crying and not trying to join in on the activities
The books don't seem to mind children dying in horrific ways. Why don't people like the books? They're a lot more gruesome than anything in games.
Good theory
I love the books
cause between the good scary gruesome stories we also have the weird ass ones (springtrap mpreg and fazgoo) and the ones that are really important to the lore which is awful cause information from the books being NECESSARY to understand the games is a horrible way to tell a story.
coming from someone who also loves the books
I feel sorry for Dave/CC Afton. His mind's a mess(see fnaf world's glitch bear secret clock ending.) when he gets his memories back, there's ONLY really suffering. Then there's the possibility of the 'later that night' section of Midnight Motorist connecting directly to fnaf 4's night 6 cutscene. Sadly with the Toy Chica high school years intermission from UCN; the runaway is killed by William Afton. Toy Chica's quote: 'I'll invite him over to my house, if he doesn't come then I'll go to his house. If he doesn't open the door, I'll find a window. Chimney is always an option.' in MM Afton goes home, knocks on a door which DOES NOT open. Goes outside to FIND A WINDOW, sees it's broken and assumes the child inside the room 'ran away'. Too drunk/delusional to know he killed that individual. That Boy would be TOYSHK because he's the ONLY restless soul with NO PROVEN Grave. Cassidy and all the others get graves in FFPS, via the lore keeper ending. Dave gets nothing, most can't even agree on when he died, let alone where his body rests.
People kept wanting to get pulled by ballora. Scott made this story to tell thrn to shut it
Time for nervous
Honestly, the biggest takeaways I continue to have from the books are that if these employees were paid fairly they would care more (and thus deaths could be prevented), and that the adults in this universe *really* hate kids acting like kids.
"The children haunting the suits sought because of how they died, Michael sought peace because of how he lived..."
Wow... yeah, while Dual Process' 2 hour theory seems narratively satisfying, I've come to mostly disagree with it after some thinking and watching Hyperdroid's video, like Cassidy is a separate character from the Crying Child/Dave as in the novels where they describe Cass as a girl with straight black hair (the blacked haired pigtail girl with *golden* beaded hair pins likely being her, just because someone got a different hairstyle, doesn't mean their not the same person, again bringing up and putting emphasis on the *gold colored beads*) the books may be in an alternate universe, but something that doesn't change is the character's genders, the blonde boy possessing Golden Freddy, I am sure, is definitely not Cassidy, taking from Scott himself saying once on Reddit that Cassidy & the blonde boy are both distinct characters, the boy being more somber than vengeful, Cassidy actually seems more of a helpful spirit (like the goated mother figure of the MCI that is Charlotte Emily 💚 bless her kind lil soul, she was only 3 years old yet she chose to help those poor 5 lost souls the best she could, basically being a protective mom to them) trying to help Dave regain his memories and his name, we know throughout UCN that "The One You Should Not Of Killed" is a boy, that he's hinted at being a secret 7th victim from the Chica's High School Years anime cutscenes, and he's also blonde like the kid in the movie, but that might just be a coincidence. I agree with you on believing Mike isn't the Vengeful Spirit, the evidence is good, but our boi already got his justice in FNAF 3 giving his walking rotten yellow rabbit furry corpse of a father that crowbar to the freakin undead knees (5 AM At Freddy's series reference) and setting fire to the attraction, all Mike ever wanted in his life was a break, but knowing the world of FNAF, bro would never get one besides the movie, movie Michael honestly has it better than games Michael at least for now, that doesn't mean I don't love the effort they put into it as their first video, one thing I will agree with them on tho... is that Mike really is gay as heck, I mean look at that goober walk, Will knew what he was doing when building Funtime Foxy lol
This is a shot in the dark, but you were talking about willy leaving his suit and then about a kid like Michael in a springlock suit, and my brain jumped to the sister location springlock.
Also, now I'm picturing will being even more of a freak and symbioting his way to another suit (I think someone had an animation of that)
I have a sneaky suspicion that something deeper is going on with the Big cable tree in the middle of the pizza Plex.
You know i was wondering why you showed up in my feed. It turns out that i saw the song you posted all those years for lullaby by mandah. I gave you a sub and i think ill see how things go.
so so quickly you’re becoming one of my fav fnaf theorists i heart your videos sm ty 🙌🙌
ahhhh, you're too kind!
Michel causing the bit of 87 cuz he a silly goober
Amazing video! I liked what you said about Micheals backstory
Ah a nervous reader analysis
accurate!
I stand by the full Dual Process Theory interpretation of the lore, but I also really like your Michael interpretation- personally, I think I'll be combining the two into one fun compound Michael that Contains Multitudes. I quite like the idea that he both comes to terms with his role in his brother(Cassidy)'s death and as his father's accomplice, and also is still the vengeful spirit, not necessarily in spite of this peace and acceptance, but because of it. I also really love the peer pressure angle and what that might mean for Bonnie Bro, who at this point is almost certainly Cassie's father, and in turn how that might reflect onto Cassie, Gregory, and Vanessa as the next-generation cast.
wow beautiful video
i really loved what u had to say about michael especially and it made me emotional
i think springtrap and scraptrap have the same suit tho, and that scott just isnt the best at design consistency (but u already brought that up in a caption on-screen so, cool👍)
one thing im still wondering about and was hoping u would cover is, why/how does the pizzaplex have a ballora animatronic? and is it important?
Oddly, this turns into a Miketrap theory... and I'm ok with that.
IM NERVOUS TOO 💥
In the System, we can all be Nervous ✨🧠
YAY A FNAF VIDEO
its been a minute😂
alr time to watch it
good video nervous!
just a note i almost mistook the thumbnail for a ryetoast podcast episode. good theory tho !
lol i had to go look to see what you meant and this is the first time i noticed they use a wall texture by the same person who made this one 😭
hell yes new theory!
Ballora has been interpreted to be a representation of Ms. Afton. If that's the intention, then it's noteworthy that out of all the animatronics that could been shown harming a Michael parallel, Ballora was chosen.
fwiw I don't see Grady as a Michael parallel, but as for why I think they chose Ballora (and I wish I'd put this in the video but couldn't articulate my thoughts while writing that part for some reason)
Grady's mom is the one who enables his junk food habits because she thinks she's helping him deal with his phobia (she probably feels guilty)
But ultimately, this ends up hurting him (although i don't like the way they go about showing that it hurts him)
Ballora is a motherly figure and she tries to help Grady out of the tube, but her attempts to help only hurt him.
That's, in essence, what I think the moral of the story is. That indulging your kid's bad habits can have negative effects on them in adulthood.
But it's just not well executed.
If this was the thing, I wish they'd spent more time showing Grady's mom pushing junk food on him, buying it bc she felt guilty and then him always eating it in an attempt to please her.
interesting
So.... why the fuck did they use springlocks??? JUST MAKE IT EMPTY DAMN
the suit he uses isn't supposed to be there
it's a mystery as to how it wound up in the costume room
The costume Earl is wearing at the end of the story is likely the one meant to be worn
@ShesNervous I wanna know what they have it? They were discontinued like what, decades earlier
what's that tower defense fnaf game you're playing
Engraved Establishment!
I should probably read the books but I don’t want to.
Also Michael my beloved
I will keep reading them for you no worries 🫡
Your service is appreciated soldier
Hate to burst your bubble... But mike isnt dead. I know, i know, i wanted him to, but Bear of Vengeance HEAVILY implies otherwise. Combine that with the nods to him in SB, and its hard to say that he's not alive... As narritively unsatisfying as that may be.
I like the parallel though! Subscribed.
Heyy
I agree. The community tends to see characters more villanous than they actually are. Mike is a martyr, not a vengeful spirit or a loyal servant of Afton. He's an actually innocent man who kept trying to believe in the good of his father, who desperately tried to make up for his crimes, and sought to protect anyone he could. People see Mike as this unique anti-hero who's a bit of an irritated guy (like Vanessa in SB) who's only objective is to kill his father. That's reductive, and it ignores how complex Michael's character is. His story is one of redemption and mild heroism, he made horrible mistakes, was punished for it, and earned his redemption. He protects others the way he was not protected when he was younger; or more tragic yet, he protects others the way he wished someone had protected his own brother from himself...
Also, the Springtrap suit could be an alternate suit. And I've seen some theories that it is the suit Burntrap is using in SB, so it has some merit (since they look kinda different).
The book the day before shows FNAF 1 animatronics tearing you apart doing the opposite of what you said
You real goth gang w the choker on my type of female any day respect the name but ion think you should be nervous bout how pretty you are😅🎉
Cassidy and Crying Child are two completely different characters, just saying.
Not everyone believes that, but I would agree it's the most popular conclusion ppl come to - that they are two different characters.
Thats how you read the lore, others disagree. You cant really make generalised statments in a lore where nothing is provable