USS Hull - What A Disgusting Design
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Tried the new T10 USN DD on EU, and it's just as disgusting as I feared. A permanent long-range kiter that gets away with playing poorly because it has superheals. Even close range it's tough to take down for enemy DDs because of the high HP and ability to speedboost and heal.
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Obviously recommend this ship because of its power, it's stupidly good. Horrendous for the game, but stupidly strong. Completely unnecessary as well, we really didn't this kind of ebola in the game but whatever.
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Don't forget they told us about new US dd line, with their "new" smoke. What are the chances it's going to be Hull but with smoke+normal heal instead of superheal
@@Echtrae2501 Reusing assets. Who could have guessed
I think it needs a smoke screen. And a reload booster. And hydro. And proper torps.
Since it is american, it should also get a 10km 30s radar, shouldn't it? 🤔😅😇
@@clefsan Good point, I forgot.
Hmm what about Air Strike?
@@darkmadness127 Fuck it, why not an Orbital Strike?
@@BumfluffAddlepate Hello my fellow HellDiver
turrets look like Daleks from Dr: Who.
"e X t E r M I n A t e "
They look like KV-3 Turrets from WoT.
The Hull's experimental 8in gun was mounted in the late 70s and was only on the front turret and was designed for shore bombardment with a lot of the WWII era heavy cruisers being phased out.
With this version I believe it makes this the most modern ship variant in the game.
While at least this ship is (partially) actually real its still wild that it was included in the game.
"Hull's eight-inch gun began firing tests in April 1975. These lasted into the following year, and were reportedly partially successful. Unfortunately, when the gun was fired as far to the rear as possible, the shock was too great and some strakes were broken. "
Now i had to look up "strake" in Google translate.... Epic fail Google keeps reconnaising Noors instead of English...@@BumfluffAddlepate
@BumfluffAddlepate imagine when shooting at a too tight angle, the ship just damages itself
@@BumfluffAddlepate the project manager for the mk71 turret weighed in on the hull cracking story, and it's decidedly false- or at least, not attributable to the mk71 mount to begin with.
"When the ship modifications were being designed to permit installation of the Mark 71, special attention was given to the stresses that would result from the firing loads. Later, during the structural firing tests, the Ships Engineering Center installed several hundred strain gages in the bow of the ship. The data collected during these tests showed acceptable stress level in all locations.
When the Hull returned from her first WESTPAC deployment, I talked to the engineers doing the structure inspection. They told me that the cracks they found were no different from what was found in every ship of the class. They said the only difference was that the rate of cracking was slightly increased which was probably due the increased weight added to the bow by the Mark 71 installation.
It should be noted that all the ships built with aluminum superstructures experienced cracking. This problem is still haunting the Navy. Recently several of the CG-47 [Ticonderoga] class ships have had to be pulled from deployment in order to have their superstructures repaired."
I'd link the document about this, but youtube hates it when you do that. :(
I have no idea why they did this, Hull just drop kicked Elbing so hard that it's unbelievable.
Nah... I recently fisted a Hull 1v1 in an Elbing hard.
Finally puts that ship in its place
Just wait till they do a super elbing based on the M class cruiser (munchen)
EDIT- not saying that's what super elbing will be thats simply what makes the most sense to me. Although there was a study on the viability of putting a 170mm gun on a dd so WG could go for that.
@@forgingfire2850 never
@@avatarwarmech wdym never
The USS Bully has set sail.
When ever I watch you CCs in this game I am always amazed at how little the enemy shoots at you. When I go in the Hull I am singled out by every ship in range of me.
Uss baby petro should be the nickname
this is what the Tiger 59 wishes it was
This shit reminds me of the old days. Stealth firing and torpedoes nothing anyone can do about it except to die. Here they can see you but they can’t kill you… might as well be stealth.
What's also dumb about this ship is I somehow managed to score couple of kills with torpedos in 20 games I played so far😅
The funny part is that he was so focused by the entire enemy team, still lives while doing terrible HE DPS, and the Shinano just farms everyone.
what a disgusting ship. This obviously needs a buff by adding Soviet radar, German hydro and US smoke + British smoke cooldown.
I have a theory. WG initially designed this destroyer with a citadel in mind. That way citadels are possible against it, seeing as that would be the only real counter. I'd wager WG wanted to put a citadel on it, but the game engine in its current state doesn't allow for that.
Gone are the days when we only had to worry about CVs and OP Soviet ships. Now it's powercreep after powercreep every week.
You might want to consider turning down the in-game sound volume a bit since you're hard to understand.
Sorry about that, no clue why the ingame sounds were so loud all of a sudden
yeah, no problem, just wanted to make sure you were aware.
@@Flamuu Nah that's fine, super gun means super sound! Just imagine what 203s would sound like on a DD
@@Flamuu this ship has extra high iritating gun sounds, so i have left several streams playing this ship
Can you make a toturial on how to properly switch ober to Lesta?
(Also to rub some salt in whoregamblings wound)
Yup, we Need that.
It's so bizarre seeing such a modern looking ship in the game.
This was actually a real steel ship in real life. They put that turrent (just one turrent on the front, not all 3) on an actual DD back in the day. So that's "why". The superheal was a bit much tho.
I'd say keep the heal but give it cruiser dispersion, because well...... cruiser guns.
They could've literally just made the historical version of this ship, with one 203mm and two 127mm turrets, normalize the shell velocity and reload, (and same shells; AP/HE for the 127mm aswell) give it a normal heal and call it a day.
But I guess that wouldnt be enough use for the turret-assets they paid some random on fiver $50 for, they just had to make another ahistorical abomination with a hundred gimmicks, thats both boring to play and annoying to play against. No suprise so many are switching to lesta..
This thing is easily countered by any DD with a smoke or smoke & hydro combo. I’ve been on both ends of that scenario. When countering a Hull get within his detect, make sure friendly ships can see him, shoot at him while smoking, he will shoot you back if it’s a bad player and then it’s free lunch for you sitting in smoke. A good DD player can counter play. A bad Hull player will not be paying attention and misplay.
Yeah.
But this makes no sense. You can counter a potato with that, not an equal skill player.
@ an equally skilled player would be able to identify what’s happening and not put himself in that position. Glad you recognize it’s a skill issue.
@@AlexThompson and while you Chase him out of the map he's farming in his spawn, how usefull you are now? Skill issues? If you Say so.
Those red BBs definitely enjoyed that gameplay.
At least it will be relatively scarce since it is a RB ship.
I guess WG coding doesn't allow two different guns because I could have seen this being balanced with single 155mm like it had IRL and rest being 5inch.
Or just easier thing remove the superheal.
Different loading speeds, fire rates and ballistics. It would be a mess
Irl Hull had a single 203mm experimental gun, which the mount proved too heavy for the decks of that era. The class used the 127/54 gun.
@@hashteraksgage3281 Unless they made the other two guns secondaries.
@@Mthammere2010 Actually, hull was perfectly fine with the mount's weight and recoil. It was mostly that the benefits of the upsized gun were marginal compared to 5-inch shells with extended range, comparably
i wish my daring had super heals... oh boi, pure suffering
At least 3 starting heals like other nations would be good. Only 1 ship that shared this trait being Ragnar ( 2 base heals )
With this much high speed shell, CV ( now faster with everyone getting rocket booster ), HE that break all mobility and make you an easier target for the next shot, etc. going on. every DD should have some healing to fight that
" why did wargaming needed to make this ship" MONEY.
They decided to make a Khabarovsk for 2025 with a super heal.
design philosophy wise, it sort of has to be insane as an open water gunboat right? because the tradeoff is that it has zero utility aside from easy spotting because of the playstyle
To balance this this probably needs to be the only DD that you can citadel
So what's the balancing factor needed? Switching the superheal to a regular heal? Reducing the number of heals?
reload and normal heal
reduce reload rate, decrease shell velocity, and drop the superheal to a normal heal.
@@mknote just making the heal a normal DD heal with 2 base charges. Taking heal away completely would be stupid, as without the heal this thing is just a shitty Elbing
Ahh that single barrel 8 inch gun sound..
the gun sound is amazing though....
Lesta just proves they can be better.
Yup. I faced one yesterday in my Sherman and it wasn't even close 🥺
It's the most OP DD in the game by far
NGL, I want to see Modernized Takao in the game. Yes, that 4 203mm guns with ATSM
5s reload time on a 203mm gun is pretty crazy.
I’ve been too lazy to reset lines, but this might be my first one.
I'm surprised it doesn't have a smoke as well.
USS Hulk woulda been a more appropriate name for this abomination.
I just can't think of a Tier X gunboat DD that can regularly counter her. Khaba or Kleber in good hands - and it would still be a big maybe.
I don't think a kleber can outgunn this thing with the booster, the booster would run out before the HP of the Hulk would and if the Hulk disegnage well, it's back with a new ship.
Trying to get Lester running, had enough of WG
The super heal is probably there for when u face tier 11 ships. Maybe they should of just made it a super light cruiser
This a reason people are moving over to Lesta server?
One of the many.
I didn’tknow flamu played sea power
Hmm maybe they'll give us a Burke next
Can Ragnar deal with Hull? I had some experiences againt Shermans in Ragnar and it was painful both ways - my large Ragnar was eating tons of SAP, but slow and big Sherman easily ate my 152mm shells too. Usually Sherman died first, but with Hull im not sure. Ragnar at least has super boost which can juke those slow shells with ease but Hull got a super heal... idk lol.
Hull out heals Ragnar and has much stronger AP that will arm on ragnar's hull with enhanced auto bounce.
the only way you win is if you catch hull nose on so she can only use one gun, otherwise it's pretty GG TBH
Another ship designed to fck over Ragnar
Hull will never out DPM any true DD gunboats. The thing with Hull is that you need to kill it in the first round of engagement. If you don't, then it'll heal up and come back to finish your low HP DD.
@@shatteredstar2149 Thing is Ragnar has DPM roughly equal to Yueyang ( 140k something ) but with better dispersion, So it appears to have better DPM because it actually hit something more than Yueyang
Ragnar have better shell ballistics, more accurate, comes with radar, 30% speed boost, lots of HP and a heal. Ragnar plays more like a mini colbert than a true DD. at the ebd of the days who gets the most team support wins the engagement. The right way to play Ragnar is usally shooting at long ranges with cruisers. Only way to win is either side make a mistake too so don't make one yourself.
ah damn no lesta today
Hey, you can obtain it with one of the 13 different currencies currently on the game...
This thing is like a radar BB and radar DD. Here to screw what you know and make sure nobody can play a gameplan unless they play 24/7
The first DD in witch I don’t care catch some Hits
Conquerer, Venezia, Mino and Goliath would be great counters, what a luck that most of these ships are irrelevant nowadays. So the only half reliable counter are DM and Sherman
Just one word : toxic.
DD with 203???? Man What?!?
These Turrets look so wrong on this ship! When they start to rotate at the begin of the battle, i was just like WTF Wargaming? If this would be a real DD one broadside and the whole ship do a barrel roll.
Hull needs to be able to take BB fullpens like the DDs of old
Weegee loves des moines... we have battleship with DM guns, now we have dd with DM guns, DM is crying in the corner...
Kleber just seems better for open water farming.
I call hullshid
Turrents track as fast as CWIS....LMAO
Money is why. They can sell it.
Ah yes, the game with more players, income, resources achieve way less and runs way worse than the one without all of those advantages. Good job 👏
Typical wee gee stomping out Elbing's upsides...now it only has superb accuracy
USS Hull is objectively inferior to Ragnar
After playing both ships for a while I have noticed Hull has great trouble doing much of anything during the game. If the enemy team has even remotely competent DD players it just gets thrown out the game and has to spend it's days far back trying to farm damage. The consumables are genuinely just bad. Ragnar has better dpm way better accuracy is a more nimble ship when needed thanks to a better speed boost is armored and can destroy dds thanks to radar. You trade all that potential for 2k hp per heal and the desmo guns but the dispersion feels insanely bad you can hit about 1 shell per salvo even at close range. For the same purpose kleber is also better than hull. F Sherman is also better thanks to smoke hydro combo. The amazing gun paper stats are severely degraded by the accuracy and Hull needs a small dispersion upgrade maybe in between regular dd and ragnar to make those guns shine.
(This is a copypasta from always funny reddit, plz no bully)
"reddit"
Their words have no value.
So if some one doesn't have some gunship dd at lvl 10 (Marso, khaba, kleber) it`s better to buy Hull? What better to priority in buying from all of this ships? Why Buy french dd if some one can buy this - go in rank, fight vs dd for spot, kill and have heal`s than fight another one dd. 60k of health it`s like 2.5-3 dd health of 10 lvl.
Great another excuse for BBs to sit even further back than they already seem to be playing lately!
Saw an Oregon in random died in 2 mins lol
testers are shit at the game most often than not
@SniPantsu i think the ship is shit it hurts itself. The guy had like 62% wr
We nee DDs with PING
Zao buffs when?
She was buffed a month ago.
At least it's real steel'ish
i think the ship could be easily changed to a fun design. NOT A SUPERHEAL. give it 1 less heal like sherman has 1 less smoke. otherwise its a ship everyone has dreamt of.
des-moines lite
i want one
Dumb but an actual ship
Those are the worst torp angles I think I've ever seen.
looked like Sherman angles to me 🤔
Cause it uses the hull of Forrest Sherman
@@matthewkabanuk443 ah. ok. Those turrets look so weird that I didn't recognize the "origin" of Hull's hull with them on it. 😅
oh, i was NOT aware that its heal was a super DD heal, i really didnt pay attention to that detail when it was announced, then again, my memory is shit
the real thing for better environment should be a ship that is ultra good at yoloing and can tank whatever coming to him I guess?
with absurd amount of AA (= 3 Montana I guess?), soviet outer armor, german turtle back, and yamato torp protection
and super bad at fighting far away from enemy
when scharnhorst was released, the game was so fun to play, and I think we need sth in T10 can be that "Scharnhorst" that can yolo and win
That is called a libertad.
A DD having 203mm is disgusting by itself, and of course let's give her Superheal + American AA because.
Regarding the planes-
1-He doesn’t have immunity - they are skip bombers
2-he’s not even striking you and only at the edge of your long/medium range aa
3-you still killed 6 planes in roughly 10 seconds from the notoriously hard to shoot down Russian cv squadrons
Still only 1080p?
It’s RUclips, you trying to watch this on a 70 inch tv? Calm down and enjoy the flolo content.
@collinkelch7764
Was waiting for the first dumb and useless comment. You did not dissapoint.
The Virgin 4K complainer against the 480p enjoyer.
Hey Flammu, when can we get your uploads in 1440p 60?🙏
What the hell is this goofy ahh ship😭
FFS Stop the waggling the camera view ... it's very irritating!
The T10 uss Hull does more damage with AP than HE because of its 233mm guns!
Remove friendly fire, remove detonation and add this thing :-D WG 😀
One Word: Sevastopol. Sevastapol has 380mm guns with better pen and a super heal; nobody calls Sebastopol OP. Hull looks like an American Sovastopol in DD form.
Regarding other lines: some players are a little bit Nationalist; they don't play other lines. So havong a Marcequ'esq DD in an American line, for American captains is most welcome.
There's a mod that shows you which of your teammates are spotted and when.