A VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: This strategy, with this exact speed tuning, can be executed with S1 DDD. Yes you heard that right, you can use S1 DDD and have 10 turns in one wave, 4 of which happens before the enemy even acts once.
Before I explain, I’d highly recommend you check out MrPokke or Lisara’s speed tuning guides (links in the description) to have a better grasp of what I’m about to say since I will just brief the “easy” speed tuning part. 1. Are there other simpler teams to 0 cycle this? Yes. 2. Why bother using this setup? - Higher damage ceiling just in case Mihoyo wants to release, idk, a 4 millions HP AoE boss with no wind weakness? - A wide window to neutralize a threat with crowd control like the violin puppet in the Choir or Kafka,etc. Unless the boss is 300+ speed, your whole team will move twice before they even take their first action in wave 2. - Very safe for most bosses since they can only act once. 3. Explain the speed tuning? - 131.1 speed to go twice in the last Robin’s ulti with Eagle + DDD. 135.9 to go thrice in the second Robin’s ulti with Eagle + DDD. We take the 135.9 here. - Total speed: Feixiao > March > Bronya. HOWEVER, March’s speed need to be closer to Feixiao than to Bronya so that if she doesn’t have an extra turn, she will take the next turn after Bronya pulls Feixiao up. Why? Cuz March has a head start since Feixiao only starts “running to her next turn” after Bronya pulls her up. (1) - HERE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. Bronya needs 154.3 speed with Vonwacz to have Robin’s ulti end in the first wave. No 2 ways about this. - However, she also need to have her 4th turns inside cycle 0 and outside Robin’s ulti to guarantee a full-energy Robin. A full advance with DDD + Eagle with makes her 4th turn inside Robin’s ulti. - Solution? We advance Feixiao by 25% with her Eagle, wait to her turn, then use Bronya’s ulti. That way, Bronya will waste most of the advance from DDD. - That’s not all, if Feixiao’s too fast, Bronya will waste less advance and might take her 4th turn inside Robin’s ulti again. - We know Bronya will advance at least 25%, so she can’t have 157.5+ speed. - If x is Bronya’s speed, y is Feixiao’s. We pick x between 154.3 and 157.5, then solve this: 6000 / x + 7500 / y + 10000 / x < 150 7500 / y + 10000 / x > 10000 / 90 After that, speed tune Feixiao and March according to (1). If you read all of this, I salute you. Final lesson for any bosses: DO NOT fight Feixiao alone.
i was so excited for feixiao release but when I started testing her I realized that the current enemies in the game literally do not put up a fight, even on a full f2p team with no lcs, both aventurine and kafka are very possible without optimization for a 0-cycle. getting them effortlessly made me realize that maybe we do need enemy powercreep if this is the new ceiling for our characters. triple eagle is incredibly fun though, I can only imagine how nuts it could've been if feixiao's ult was able to use as little stacks as needed such as v1 and v2 where she could double advance off trash mobs using only 2-4 stacks. its also a treat to see the max optimized low investment setup as its incredibly complex the way you have it shown here. great work.
5:12 considering it to be a perfect sync, 1 skill point 7 stack feixiao ult and 0 march stack. the rotation would be fei BA > march fua > fei fua > march BA > bronya E > fei E > fei fua > > march fua > fei fua > march extra turn > and fei ult from the 6 stacks she had beforehand total attack = 10, 7 + (10/2) = 12, yes it is an extra ult i think i'm WRONG tho nice work as always! im kinda angry because i failed 0c aven (bad speed tuning smh), but i hope i would get that god triple eagle set by the time hoolay appears in MoC so i could take my revenge and do 0c
Another great run. Love it bro. I watch your videos during the beta a lot to see if it can help me to make a decision on pulling her or not. The reason is that I have FF and Acheron both E2S1. Both are doing fine with the last 2 MoC. Is there a different angle or a way if you can enlightent me to roll Feixiao 😂. She looks so fun in your video! Thanks bro.
I'm still struggling to decide which build to aim for because in Lisara's latest video, he also did 0-cycle against aventurine, remaining 2 feixiao skills and 1 Ulti. Tbh, Lisara's build is much more attainable than yours, but 10 actions & 5 Ultimates in wave 2 is so attractive. Which one do you recommend? (My DDD is S4, Bronya is E1 and Sparkle is E0)
It really depends on the boss mechanic. Bronya's 10 actions rotation has higher damage ceiling and more room to deal with a specific target with some key mechanics or CC but requires more conditions and higher gear's stat. However, keep in mind that if there is enough energy in wave 1, Bronya can pull Feixiao up instead and finish the wave with her skill, allowing 6 ultimates in wave 2. Additionally, I'm optimizing M7's choice of relic as well since she might not need Eagle here and can go for more damage set and utilize more actions to the fullest. Sparkle's version has much more attainable relics and lenient condition, but the damage is lower and you pretty much has to finish wave 1 without her ult. Also the buff uptime on Feixiao is easily maintained. Bronya can't maintain her buff on every single Feixiao's atk, but you can keep every Feixiao's ulti buffed by Feixiao with proper ult usage, that is if the MoC allows for it. Overall, experiment each strategy as the contents come and find out what's best for you. Atm I can't recommend 1 strat over the other since they're all working and allowing 0 cycle clear.
@@HoS_1412 Thank you for answering my question in this detail. I've noticed that all I need to do now is to grind for better relics with speed & crit. Until then, I'll try the setups with lower speed requirement.
Bro fight MoC like it's SU conundrum 12💀 btw this strategy is simply overkill tf out the bosses if hoyo release 4mill hp boss in MoC, that means your set up is worth for long term Investment Edit: I thought it was E2 that's why I think it's overkill
True. Aventurine can be 0 cycled with no wind set and with sustain, all at e0s1. Bronya is not necessary either, Sparkle can work or even no advance harmony. However, if you gonna use wind set, more often than not you will pair her with an advance harmony or another eagle set user, else the soaring set with 1 DDD is a safer bet. There are many Aventurine 0 cycle vids from 0 cycle CCs already like Eideh, Ruri, Lisara,etc that is simpler, so definitely recommend checking them out. For me, what I aim for is always the peak and maximum optimized strategy. Unfortunately Aven is too weak to see the necessary of this strat. However as I said, it's very safe since you have 2 rotations ahead. Also its speed requirement is very managable. Unfortunately, wind set showcases are often quite complex cuz speed tuning is at its core. I do admit wave 1's setup is even more advanced, but a simpler version would be 137 spd Fx (default spd boot), 133 M7 and 142 Bronya, which finish first wave during Robin ulti. It's quite risky since Aven will act twice.
Is March's eagle set necessary here? It seems 25% action advances are useless because of her 100% action advances which she gains when her stacks reach 7
Robin Ult is locked on 90 SPD so it takes 111.11 AV and because the first cycle ends on 150 AV it means you need to Ult before 38.89 AV. In this specific setup with both Bronya and Robin using Vonwaq, it means your Bronya is the one that needs to get at least 154.3 SPD (6000 / 38.89 = rounded up to 154.3)
You will miss some of March's FuA if you can't trigger her extra turn before Bronya pulls Feixiao up. You will also miss March's FuA in the next rotation if you trigger her extra turn after Feixiao gets pulled and you don't use Feixiao ulti, also you will have to save March's ulti in that case as well. If you want to avoid these, more often than not you need to skill first on Feixiao, gets pulled up and basic attack, which is not ideal compared to skill after pull cuz now you have Bronya's buff.
![[Test] E0S1 Feixiao vs 4M HP 5 TV Memes | 0 Cycle | No Limited Eidolon, Weakness, Buff | S1 DDD](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Km08BHlwceM/mqdefault.jpg)
![[Test] E0S1 Feixiao vs 4M HP 5 TV Memes | 0 Cycle | No Limited Eidolon, Weakness, Buff | S1 DDD](/img/tr.png)
A VERY IMPORTANT NOTE: This strategy, with this exact speed tuning, can be executed with S1 DDD.
Yes you heard that right, you can use S1 DDD and have 10 turns in one wave, 4 of which happens before the enemy even acts once.
Before I explain, I’d highly recommend you check out MrPokke or Lisara’s speed tuning guides (links in the description) to have a better grasp of what I’m about to say since I will just brief the “easy” speed tuning part.
1. Are there other simpler teams to 0 cycle this?
Yes.
2. Why bother using this setup?
- Higher damage ceiling just in case Mihoyo wants to release, idk, a 4 millions HP AoE boss with no wind weakness?
- A wide window to neutralize a threat with crowd control like the violin puppet in the Choir or Kafka,etc. Unless the boss is 300+ speed, your whole team will move twice before they even take their first action in wave 2.
- Very safe for most bosses since they can only act once.
3. Explain the speed tuning?
- 131.1 speed to go twice in the last Robin’s ulti with Eagle + DDD. 135.9 to go thrice in the second Robin’s ulti with Eagle + DDD. We take the 135.9 here.
- Total speed: Feixiao > March > Bronya. HOWEVER, March’s speed need to be closer to Feixiao than to Bronya so that if she doesn’t have an extra turn, she will take the next turn after Bronya pulls Feixiao up. Why? Cuz March has a head start since Feixiao only starts “running to her next turn” after Bronya pulls her up. (1)
- HERE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART. Bronya needs 154.3 speed with Vonwacz to have Robin’s ulti end in the first wave. No 2 ways about this.
- However, she also need to have her 4th turns inside cycle 0 and outside Robin’s ulti to guarantee a full-energy Robin. A full advance with DDD + Eagle with makes her 4th turn inside Robin’s ulti.
- Solution? We advance Feixiao by 25% with her Eagle, wait to her turn, then use Bronya’s ulti. That way, Bronya will waste most of the advance from DDD.
- That’s not all, if Feixiao’s too fast, Bronya will waste less advance and might take her 4th turn inside Robin’s ulti again.
- We know Bronya will advance at least 25%, so she can’t have 157.5+ speed.
- If x is Bronya’s speed, y is Feixiao’s. We pick x between 154.3 and 157.5, then solve this:
6000 / x + 7500 / y + 10000 / x < 150
7500 / y + 10000 / x > 10000 / 90
After that, speed tune Feixiao and March according to (1).
If you read all of this, I salute you.
Final lesson for any bosses: DO NOT fight Feixiao alone.
> 4 millions HP AoE boss with no weakness
Surely that's not gonna happen in 2.6...surely💀....
Does E2 Bronya opens up anything new in this setup?
@@sydorovich2532 You can use atk boot, find 1 spd substat and kill everything in existence.
@@HoS_1412 after your comment I pulled E1S1 Robin and E0S1 Fei(won 50/50), would start to build this team, thx A LOT.
Is that the rotation u mentioned last time?
Also i need suggestions, i am 10 pulls short of getting either e2 robin or e2 fei, which should i get
you're the greatest FeiXiao and Robin player of all time. Ty for your video, it helps a lot
"just in case mihoyo want to release, idk, a 4 million HP aoe boss" lmfao😂😂
they saw this. Now its 5million 😂
I'm gonna overfarm the eagle set
the tips from 3:41 will probably save my future runs , also your rotations are so good , nice run !
i was so excited for feixiao release but when I started testing her I realized that the current enemies in the game literally do not put up a fight, even on a full f2p team with no lcs, both aventurine and kafka are very possible without optimization for a 0-cycle. getting them effortlessly made me realize that maybe we do need enemy powercreep if this is the new ceiling for our characters. triple eagle is incredibly fun though, I can only imagine how nuts it could've been if feixiao's ult was able to use as little stacks as needed such as v1 and v2 where she could double advance off trash mobs using only 2-4 stacks. its also a treat to see the max optimized low investment setup as its incredibly complex the way you have it shown here. great work.
feixiao is way above any other dps if we get enemies who can put up a fight other dps would struggle a lot against those enemies so bad idea
V1/v2 had no such interaction with her ult. Pressing her ult means you will at least use 6 stack minimum regardless if it died early or not
Absolute peak
Gonna live in the Wind cavern again ig
5:12 considering it to be a perfect sync, 1 skill point 7 stack feixiao ult and 0 march stack. the rotation would be fei BA > march fua > fei fua > march BA > bronya E > fei E > fei fua > > march fua > fei fua > march extra turn > and fei ult from the 6 stacks she had beforehand
total attack = 10, 7 + (10/2) = 12, yes it is an extra ult
i think i'm WRONG tho
nice work as always! im kinda angry because i failed 0c aven (bad speed tuning smh), but i hope i would get that god triple eagle set by the time hoolay appears in MoC so i could take my revenge and do 0c
Almost correct. Fei's ult doesn't refund 0.5 charge, but before the rotation, march used ult and eba at 5:20 so we will have 8 + 9/2 = 12.5 charges.
@@HoS_1412 funny because after i talked with you i found a new rotation and successfully 0 cycle avent lmao
thx sir 🙏
Another great run. Love it bro.
I watch your videos during the beta a lot to see if it can help me to make a decision on pulling her or not. The reason is that I have FF and Acheron both E2S1. Both are doing fine with the last 2 MoC. Is there a different angle or a way if you can enlightent me to roll Feixiao 😂. She looks so fun in your video! Thanks bro.
Nice
I'm still struggling to decide which build to aim for because in Lisara's latest video, he also did 0-cycle against aventurine, remaining 2 feixiao skills and 1 Ulti.
Tbh, Lisara's build is much more attainable than yours, but 10 actions & 5 Ultimates in wave 2 is so attractive.
Which one do you recommend?
(My DDD is S4, Bronya is E1 and Sparkle is E0)
It really depends on the boss mechanic. Bronya's 10 actions rotation has higher damage ceiling and more room to deal with a specific target with some key mechanics or CC but requires more conditions and higher gear's stat. However, keep in mind that if there is enough energy in wave 1, Bronya can pull Feixiao up instead and finish the wave with her skill, allowing 6 ultimates in wave 2. Additionally, I'm optimizing M7's choice of relic as well since she might not need Eagle here and can go for more damage set and utilize more actions to the fullest.
Sparkle's version has much more attainable relics and lenient condition, but the damage is lower and you pretty much has to finish wave 1 without her ult. Also the buff uptime on Feixiao is easily maintained. Bronya can't maintain her buff on every single Feixiao's atk, but you can keep every Feixiao's ulti buffed by Feixiao with proper ult usage, that is if the MoC allows for it.
Overall, experiment each strategy as the contents come and find out what's best for you. Atm I can't recommend 1 strat over the other since they're all working and allowing 0 cycle clear.
@@HoS_1412 Thank you for answering my question in this detail.
I've noticed that all I need to do now is to grind for better relics with speed & crit.
Until then, I'll try the setups with lower speed requirement.
Bro fight MoC like it's SU conundrum 12💀 btw this strategy is simply overkill tf out the bosses if hoyo release 4mill hp boss in MoC, that means your set up is worth for long term Investment
Edit: I thought it was E2 that's why I think it's overkill
you said in the pinned comment that there are easier ways to 0c with this, im just looking for a simpler wind set feixiao setup instead of all of this
True. Aventurine can be 0 cycled with no wind set and with sustain, all at e0s1. Bronya is not necessary either, Sparkle can work or even no advance harmony.
However, if you gonna use wind set, more often than not you will pair her with an advance harmony or another eagle set user, else the soaring set with 1 DDD is a safer bet. There are many Aventurine 0 cycle vids from 0 cycle CCs already like Eideh, Ruri, Lisara,etc that is simpler, so definitely recommend checking them out.
For me, what I aim for is always the peak and maximum optimized strategy. Unfortunately Aven is too weak to see the necessary of this strat. However as I said, it's very safe since you have 2 rotations ahead. Also its speed requirement is very managable.
Unfortunately, wind set showcases are often quite complex cuz speed tuning is at its core. I do admit wave 1's setup is even more advanced, but a simpler version would be 137 spd Fx (default spd boot), 133 M7 and 142 Bronya, which finish first wave during Robin ulti. It's quite risky since Aven will act twice.
Is March's eagle set necessary here?
It seems 25% action advances are useless because of her 100% action advances which she gains when her stacks reach 7
Yes, I also notice that. I think March's relic choice can be further optimized.
If I have e2 feixiao can i replace march without a problem?
For the purpose of 0 cycle, e2 fx can go with moze, march, topaz. All of them can do well.
Can March 7th be replaced with Jade E1? which should lower the speed condition for Fexiao
Not as good, Jade's pace is too slow to keep up.
Does this strategy still work now?
Will and always work.
How does Robin ult end within 0 cycle?? I can’t get it the same
Robin Ult is locked on 90 SPD so it takes 111.11 AV and because the first cycle ends on 150 AV it means you need to Ult before 38.89 AV. In this specific setup with both Bronya and Robin using Vonwaq, it means your Bronya is the one that needs to get at least 154.3 SPD (6000 / 38.89 = rounded up to 154.3)
why does march have to be slower than feixiao? isn't it fine if march is the fastest?
You will miss some of March's FuA if you can't trigger her extra turn before Bronya pulls Feixiao up. You will also miss March's FuA in the next rotation if you trigger her extra turn after Feixiao gets pulled and you don't use Feixiao ulti, also you will have to save March's ulti in that case as well. If you want to avoid these, more often than not you need to skill first on Feixiao, gets pulled up and basic attack, which is not ideal compared to skill after pull cuz now you have Bronya's buff.
can moze replace march?
Not in this team, no.
can bronya e4 and topaz use this strat?
yes: fx BA -> bronya fua -> fx fua -> numby -> TP ba -> bron -> Fx skill -> Fx Fua -> numby -> Fx Fua
@@HoS_1412 What is BA 😵💫
@@HoS_1412nvm
@@SayHii120 basic attack
@@HoS_1412 ah right, i dont have bronya lc...
Question
E2 feixiao or e2 robin?
I have a perfect windset for feixiao
Both are at e1 rn
Using Eagle and FuA team reduces E2 Robin value, so E2 Feixiao in this case is better.
@@HoS_1412 i wonder how can you cook e2 fei?
Looking at these runs, it seems like the extra push paired with bronya won't do much
@@Gasterus69 We'll see about that when e0s1 Feixiao can no longer 0 cycle, but that's probably won't be anytime soon.
@@HoS_1412 still would be fun to see these e2 cooks