JFK was hit four times. The autopsy photo of JFKs back show two bullet wounds, one shot entry, one shot exit. The Z film shows JFKs head been hit two times,one in the back of head pushing his head slightly forward before the other a frontal shot,[ Head explodes and pushed back } Both shots came almost together. His his entire body is lifted with the force of the frontal exploding bullet { Dum Dum } and thrown back violently against his wife. LHO did not kill your President. He could not have made that shot !!! So that blows the MAJIC Bullet theory to bits...
Yup. Thompson obtained a Carcano rifle identical to LHO's, became proficient with it, and timed himself taking shots at a moving target the size of a man's upper body and head over the range in question (265 feet), as quickly as LHO is claimed to have. His conclusion: it was impossible to operate the Carcano's bolt-action while looking through the scope, and produce three accurate shots within 5.6 seconds. And LHO was no great marksman; his best score was a 212, which barely qualified him as "sharpshooter"; he was nowhere near reaching the "expert" level.
The magic bullet was dullshit from the beginning. The only reason it lasted this long is because a traumatized mind cannot descern. The the thoughts of this event trigger a traumatic response and those who witnessed still do not function normally when dealing with it. That is why you have a disinterested party investigate.
Well it was Swedish Boy-origin from Austria and Japan=Mauterndorph+Kobe-Japan0but lives in Sweden born 1945 on 26th of November= called Walther Evert KEGÖ
Did you know, the Secret Service only agreed to the motorcade route 10 days before the assassination; AFTER Oswald had already gotten his job at the Book Depository? Oswald must have been psychic 😂
Are you a follower of David Lifton's research about JFK’s assassination, as set forth in his New York Times Bestseller, Best Evidence? Would you like to support his efforts in completing Final Charade, the sequel to that book? Final Charade contains new and important information which will significantly change the official history of this case. If you wish to contribute to this effort, please visit www.gofundme.com/f/publishing-final-charade-seq-to-best-evidence. David Lifton told me a few months ago how thrilled he was when he learned of Bob Dylan’s newly released song, “Murder Most Foul.” He was startled to hear Dylan explicitly referenced his original research that the Bethesda autopsy was falsified via the illicit removal of Kennedy’s brain prior to the official examination, resulting in an empty cranium at the time of autopsy. Bottom line: “missing brain” means that the genuine assassination bullets never reached the FBI Lab, and that in turn explains how Oswald’s mail order rifle was falsely implicated as the murder weapon; and Oswald, as the assassin.
I use to think the same, then I saw FX docuseries _“A Wilderness of Error”_ (based on Morris' book); He's apparently gone all out baby brains (sometime within the last 10 yrs). just *Fcking bananas* for ever pandering _that_ [there was any] conspiracy
The narrator fails to verbally explain why the Zapruder film undermines the official story. I think I know what he means, but he had 13+ minutes to explicitly state his case and didn't do so.
Because the film makes it clear from where the fatal shot came from. Why does he have to state the obvious? Anyone who views the film KNOWS the official narrative is bogus. Don't let that mind control lead you astray son, believe your own eyes and ears.
The point of this documentary is not to conclusively say one thing or another, but to continue the discussion of what it means to be an American in the shadow of events like these. These are the defining "tectonic shifts" that shape our nation, and in a way they shape the way our own minds think about ourselves. We identify with the young Kennedy, and so the tragedy hits us in a deeper place. This is us, we think. This is us.
+Michael Aronson TODAY ITS EASY TO SEE HOW CENTRAL TOOK OVER USA....WITH LIES TOLD IN THE PAST....USA IS WORSE THAN RUSSIA TODAY....JFK OUT LIVED HIS USEFULNESS TO THE CIA.... a succesful death made to look like a cia failure...
Yeah - not buying it. Where was there any mention of what it means to be American in the shadow of tragic events? I didn’t get that at all. What I got was “the Zapruder film was not altered, the end”
Read these three books: "JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE" by James P. Douglass, "THE BROTHERS" by Stephen Kinzer, and "MARY'S MOSAIC" (2nd Edition) by Peter Janney. These three books work so synergistically to describe what happened by describing the 'why' behind it all. Be sure to read the second edition of the Janney book because it contains an all important chapter about the CIA's involvement in the death of Mary Meyer.
Well it was Swedish Boy-origin from Austria and Japan=Mauterndorph+Kobe-Japan0but lives in Sweden born 1945 on 26th of November= called Walther Evert KEGÖ
ZombieBest I was one of those people and I in fact did go there with my daughter and sadly I didn't figure it out either. Feel I've gained some insight but honestly it was most likely just more conformation bias on my part. Who knows but was cool though. Love the little museum they have set up there too.
Earl's Lumia 640 I went there years ago and all I can say is that I instantly had the weirdest feeling come over me. Have never experienced that feeling before or since. Its like I could tell that something very bad happened there. I will never believe that Oswald was anything other than a patsey and LBJ did all but pull the trigger himself
ZombieBest let me solve it for you.. JFK Assassinated 11-22-1963 in Dallas, TX by LHO. One man. One rifle. Three shots. Eleven seconds. Oswald acted alone. Ruby acted alone. No conspiracy. 🌹🇺🇸RIP JFK🇺🇸🌹
Are you a follower of David Lifton's research about JFK’s assassination, as set forth in his New York Times Bestseller, Best Evidence? Would you like to support his efforts in completing Final Charade, the sequel to that book? Final Charade contains new and important information which will significantly change the official history of this case. If you wish to contribute to this effort, please visit www.gofundme.com/f/publishing-final-charade-seq-to-best-evidence. David Lifton told me a few months ago how thrilled he was when he learned of Bob Dylan’s newly released song, “Murder Most Foul.” He was startled to hear Dylan explicitly referenced his original research that the Bethesda autopsy was falsified via the illicit removal of Kennedy’s brain prior to the official examination, resulting in an empty cranium at the time of autopsy. Bottom line: “missing brain” means that the genuine assassination bullets never reached the FBI Lab, and that in turn explains how Oswald’s mail order rifle was falsely implicated as the murder weapon; and Oswald, as the assassin.
"Zapruder film makes it clear where the fatal shot came from, and it wasn't from a far away building at his rear." Oh yes, when the film makes it clear that the majority of the bloody spray exited forward, that two pieces of his head shoot upward and forward, that his head jerked forward several inches when first struck, that practically all of the visible exit damage was forward of his right ear...oh, but according to you that "doesn't" make it clear that the bullet came from behind. You're such a child. ;-)
You are 100% wrong. What is shown in the film not only isn't from the grassy knoll, but cannot be from anywhere in front of the car. Kennedy's head moved forward when impacted by the bullet, as you can clearly see in frames 212-213, before either the recoil of the exiting brain matter or a neurological reaction caused the body to lurch backward. By Newton's third law of physics, this tells us definitively and without any doubt that the fatal shot came from behind.
@@jameslayne2985 - Um no, I know what I saw, my eyes aren't lying. You're into fig newtons. Shot from front, put a huge exit wound in the rear of his head. It's not debatable with me, I SAW what happened. Only a dummy thinks that shot came from a distant building behind him, on a downward projectory and then magically turned up to exit out the top right. That would make two magic bullets, it's silliness son.
@@danieleyre8913 - For those on the 'spectrum', Zapruder shows beyond any doubt from where the fatal shot comes from, as do as least 40 witnesses, and it wasn't from "a building" at his rear. Satisfied Skippy?? LOL
Remembering this event, I think it is loosened significantly whatever grip America had on sanity in a permanent and scary way. It always throws a pall of sadness on me whenever I think of this or am reminded of it.
@@ghostdance56 Because we killed the Kennedy’s with this conspiracy nonsense.. To the point that’s the only thing discussed when people speak about Kennedy..
@@jacobjones5269 - Did Jagger ever claim that? Sounds like you're reaching to me. The obvious answer is because a president serves a nation, and died in service to that nation. You're very young right?
@@ghostdance56 He was certainly talking about the 5-6 years after the assassination.. The war, the political division.. The anger and violence, and the suspicion.. I think the clear message was even though the man died, we didn’t have to turn away from his ideas.. Which could have lived on..
I have lined this up and it actually works. Kennedy's head was tilted to the left, the car was at this point directed towards the South Knoll, clear shot to his temple and would exit where Parkland Hospital doctors said it did. Would also explain no harm was done to Mrs Kennedy and the blood spatter around the back of the car. What an intriguing thought.
Professional scientific studies and recreations have been completed that refute everything you say. Everything, especially the blood spatter, was 100% consistent with a shot from the 6th floor.
@@KutWrite it was behind Jfk at the time of the shots. Oswald was in a building behind the president at the time of shooting. Watch the films...what do ya see? People are really stupid if they deny conspiracy here.
......Mr. Thompson, have you ever interviewed the #1 guy at the FBI graphics dept. in D.C. who actually saw the original Zapruder film? He saw it before anyone did on Sat evening & he mentioned that the film that everyone (including you) saw is not the one he saw. His job was to isolate the frames when Kennedy was hit. #313 is the one that everyone uses but there were about 5 missing frames that nobody else saw. He referred to them as the "Pink Halo" shots. That story is here on RUclips.
Absolutely. The film was almost immediately edited. Critical crime scene evidence was destroyed in the limo. Professionals don't accidentally or mindlessly act in this manner. It was the president.
@@alecmcmurray9539 I found a share link and YT won't let me post it. I Googled "new york times errol morris jfk documentary" and was able to find a link to the video and article. Hope it's what you want.
Don't forget the missing frames from the turn onto Elm. Zapruder claims he filmed in one continuous shot, so we have a strong suggestion of tampering, right there.
yes beginning is obviously cut, theory throat shot is earlier from front or LBJ secret service providing cover as shooting starts cussing match with JFK night before trying to get Connally out of limo and said to baby momma “ that will be the last time Kennedy embarrasses me again” and had another back up plan Saturday a BBQ at the LBJ ranch but hardly any tickets were even sold, his hit man Malcom Wallace finger print found at the sniper nest, media said for days British gun Mauser 7.65 used until couldn’t tie to Oswald then changed to 6.5 Carcano with the scope not even sighted. SS found a nearly pristine bullet planted above the back seat of limousine in between the seat and where convertible comes down. Says he placed it on Kennedy stretch, said found on Connolly stretcher.
but so doe s the interest by this as MLK RFK will always be a nanosecond ago til humanity's ends as Khrushchev having aired cia/military's blocked peace speech....Bobby Jr gonna try to de-rump dump pump...
He definitely had connections, but it proves nothing. He was even visited in jail by a high-up mob boss. Now, ask yourself this question: If Ruby had just silenced mob hitman Oswald, at the mob's order, why would a mob boss then visit Ruby in jail, thereby creating a link to himself and a conspiracy to the watching law enforcement? It makes no sense. Oswald did it. Alone. Case closed.
@@garrybaldy327 If you ignore enough evidence, you can talk yourself into anything. Oswald didn't act alone. Ruby didn't act alone. Ruby said we would never know the truth and he was right. Ask yourself this question, Who called in the tip to the DPD. No one saw Oswald pull the trigger, Not 1 photo of him in the window. All the videos and all the cameras and not one picture of Oswald. Oswald was on the 2nd floor not the 6th. Oswald shooting downward at a 16 degree angle hitting JFK in the back four inches below the neckline, just blows the single bullet theory away. The Warren report is even skeptical about parts of it and many on the commission didn't agree with it. The only thing that made the Warren report acceptable were Oswald was killed by Ruby, and all evidence was to be locked up for 75 years. Who called the tip in ?
@@brettburney9623 “if you ignore enough evidence, you can talk yourself into anything.” Now apply that sentence to your own beliefs. What evidence are you ignoring to believe what you believe?
Excellent question I can only imagine how chaotic things were and nothing stands out about him at all .. average height weight build but they pinpoint him … I’m not buying it
Brennan was an eyewitness who saw Oswald take the shots, others saw the same man (but couldn’t identify him) pull the rifle from the window after the third shot. He was the only person who worked at the TSBD to flee the building afterward. In normal circumstances you would say the police were just doing their competent job. But in a famous person case, like the JFK case many people have to conspiratorial alternative facts.
@@billkeon880 yeah brennans id is kind of not so good , he claims oswald was standing up which is impossible, he couldnt identify oswalds hair colour, he could see "all of the rifle" but remembers no scope , he testifies that he heard only one shot so for him there is no "third shot" and claims he saw oswalds picture "twice on tv" before going to the police lineup and as you stated he could not positively identify lee harvey oswald. not saying brennan has no use , he sees a rifle at the 6th floor , this i believe and as you say you can add some other stuff to this ( oswalds workers placing him on that floor at that time, the "curtain rod" story , the missing rifle at ruth paines, oswalds actions after the shooting) starts to build a pretty good case but man oh man there was some awful police work done that weekend considering the resources at hand.
If you haven't seriously followed this story from an honest desire to know the truth then it's likely you haven't got a clue what really happened. I was 5 1/2 when it happened and when my kindergarten bus dropped my best friend and myself off in front of his house his mother met us and informed us the President had been killed in Dallas Texas. We all cried. 58 years later I know a whole lot more than I did that day. I will continue to learn more because I care about what happened that day. I know today that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't shoot anyone that day. It was elements of our own government that murdered JFK. WE KNOW BECAUSE WE NOW KNOW MORE THAN ONE PERSON FIRED AT THE PRESIDENT AND ALSO THE PRESIDENT WAS HIT IN THE HEAD BY SOMEONE FIRING FROM THE RIGHT FRONT NOT THE TEXAS SCHOOLBOOK DEPOSITORY. WE KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THAT ALSO. WE KNOW THE CIA PLAYED A MAJOR PART IN THIS MURDER. WE DONT YET KNOW WHO THE SHOOTERS WERE. WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT IS WHO TOLD THESE PEOPLE TO DO THIS, WHY. WE ARE LEARNING MORE EVERY DAY AS MANY PATRIOTS UNCOVER MORE EVIDENCE AND FACTS AND EVALUATE THE NEW EVIDENCE AS IT PERTAINS TO THE ENTIRE PICTURE. ITS LIKE A PUZZLE, EVENTUALLY WE MAY ANSWER SOME CRITICAL QUESTIONS. WE MUST DO WHAT WE CAN.
It does take great maturity to understand that the opinion we are arguing for is merely the hypothesis we favor, necessarily imperfect, probably transitory, which only very limited minds can declare to be a certainty or a truth. Milan Kundera
@@hallsjuju2400 ... To answer your question, "will anything ever be proven?" No, the conspiracy theories surrounding the assassination of JFK will have eternal life!
Not altered? Why does the limo disappear and the reappear early in the film? Why is the back right portion of the film grayed out? Why do multiple eyewitnesses state the limo came to a stop or came close to stopping right before the fatal shot but tbe film doesn't show this?
Its refreshing to hear someone say so openly that he was also shot from the front. And seeing Jackie Kennedy climb over the boot to grab a piece of her husbands skull is incredible. Thistory. History? R.I.P JFK
The official back-of-the-head autopsy photos in the national archives do not match up with the direct on-record observations of the Parkland medical personnel. What more does one need?
"I don't think any other crime that I know of in history has been investigated with the kind of intensity that this has and yet I don't think we get any closer to knowing what happened now than we were 40 45 years ago." Interesting insinuation. Perhaps the reason which the gentleman does not elude to is that whenever there is an investigation for example the HSCA it is subverted by the agency
Example being that when the HSCA requested a liaison from the CIA for information requests, the only stipulation was that he was not active during 1963. The person put forward was George Joannides who not only was active in 1963 with the CIA but had a direct link to Oswald via the CIA's support for the Cuban exiles, who clashed with Oswald and monitored him. He deliberately withheld information of his own role 1963 and crucial documents that were absolutely necessary to investigate the murder. And this is why we get no closer to finding the truth regarding the murder of JFK, because of elements with the intelligence community and government.
UNIQUE1982 This Joannides was getting rid of documents just before the investigators could obtain them when he learned what direction their investigation was heading in. He was then given an award of commendation by the Agency.
Its like this guy is a self appointed high priest of the assassination. Yeah it was simple, Kennedy got wacked by his enemies and they framed a dead commie.
Yes, very much solved for decades. All this talk of files still kept classified… almost all files have been released, every case like this retains some files as classified and that’s normal to protect agents, families, methods etc. So riddle me this Batman… in the early 1990s there were still a ton of documents classified. Conspiracy buffs demanded their release thinking the secret answer was contained therein. But tons of documents were released and no smoking gun. Not even a crumb. So ask yourself, why keep those documents classified through the 1980s? Because, the usual, trivial, mundane reasons. So much suspicion for hidden documents that meant nothing. That’s what this whole ‘unsolved’ mania is about…suspicion of unknown, misunderstood things.
Unfortunately, Thompson is dead wrong about the Zapruder film not being altered. One can plainly see the back of Kennedy's head is crudely blacked out. I have been researching the assassination for over 40 years, and discovered this fact many years ago, although it has only recently been acknowledged.
I've had the honor and privilege of making Tink Thompson's acquaintance and meeting him many times at Dallas research conferences. He's about as much of a standup guy as you will find in my mind. He actually pointed out a point in his classic book "Six Seconds in Dallas" that he made a mistake on the infamous head snap. That is integrity you rarely see anymore.
Such a tragedy. JFK was a hero of a president, a man’s man who loved his country. He will be missed for as long as I exist. I just hope everyone who was guilty of his death is now dead or wishes they were dead. They deserve a long life of suffering!
My mom was convinced right off the bat, as soon as Oswald was shot, something weird was going on. She claims she was on the phone with her friend watching Oswald being transferred from the jail and she told her friend "they're gonna shoot that guy" and sure enough....but she had a different reason. She thought the Texans were crazy gun nuts. Vigilante justice and all that. (she hated JFK. He called in the Reserves over the Cuban Missile Crisis and she had 4 young children and it destroyed their marriage, Just thought I'd mention that). Errol Morris has such an interesting ideas for documentaries, and Phillip Glass's music is awesome as well.
I WAS 8 YRS OLD AND IN GRADE 3, THE TEACHER SAID ,, THERES BEEN A SHOOTING IN USA DALLAS,, EVERYONE MUST GO HOME,, YES WE WERE SENT HOME,, I CRIED ALL THE WAY HOME THINKING A WAR WILL HAPPEN AS IT WASNT TO FAR FROM 1945 , I WAS IN ROUYON NORANDA QUEBEC,, A FRENCH PART OF CANADA,, AND IT WAS A SAD DAY I REMEMBER EVEN MY MOM WAS CRYING , WE HELD EACH OTHER TIGHT,, I DID UNDERSTAND THAT KENNEDY WAS A GOOD PRESIDENT,, AS WE HAD FAMILY IN KINGSTON NY,, GOD BLESS THE KENNEDY FAMILY
We KNOW there were missing frames from the Zapruder film as it jumps just as JFK is going behind the freeway sign. Well, in an oral history recorded by Jackie Kennedy right after the assassination, but only released a year or so ago, she said that just before her husband was shot, she happened to be glancing at the green freeway sign when all of a sudden pieces of it flew toward them and the President was hit. This had never been reported before. But it comes from the First Lady herself. This explains why somebody would want to remove some frames as Kennedy goes behind the sign; otherwise we might well see it being struck by a bullet FROM THE FRONT OF THE CAR. It's pretty hard to impeach the eyewitness recollections of the First Lady. Also, you should look on RUclips for "The Great Zapruder Film Hoax." It's in multi-parts. Some guy has taken the still photos and compared them with the film, and although a lot of it is rather boring, he makes a convincing case that the spatial relationships in the background of various objects and people (including a truck) are not consistent. in the film. They are different in the film than in the still pics, suggesting that the movie has been altered.
Larry Jordan The jumps just before going behind the freeway sign, they are not missing, Zapruder just wasn't filming. The camera used was 8mm film. This was apparently 16mm film folded in two. One side would be used. The spool was then flipped over. You would then film with the other side. The film would be cut and joined when processed. The missing frames was because Zapruder decided to flip the film so that he would not run out of film at the wrong moment. BTW, Josiah in the above video, worked for Time and actually had access to the original film - the best quality - and has done extensive time measurements - the forward movement of JFK's head can be seen as blur on the forehead of Connally and hence it was camera movement. Also, Josiah was in the best position to examine if the Zapruder film was altered as he had access to the original and every other copy since. The 1998 Kodak/Zavada test report on this original film has finally put this to bed. This has never really bothered me - if there was any attempt to alter the film, then THEY TOTALLY FAILED !!! If I wanted to alter the Zapruder film to hide something, then *I* could have done a better job. The film shows exactly what happened and *it does not agree with the official authorised version of a single shooter*. It proves the Warren Report is a sham. So the Zapruder film works just great as it is - and that in itself supports the view that it was not altered. Because if it had, *ALL* the evidence would have been obliterated - yet it is still there.
D800Lover Where are you getting this idea that in the split seconds Kennedy was behind the sign Zapruder decided to flip film? Why do we see two motorcycle cops and then nothing until the limo suddenly appears? No film, even in that day, ran mere seconds, so there should be no necessity for Zapruder to have to flip the film during the extremely brief time he was filming Kennedy. If there was no alteration of the film, why were TWO sets of lab techs involved -- and that is irrefutable -- both Saturday night and Sunday night? And how can anyone possibly discount Jackie Kennedy's fresh recollection of pieces of the freeway sign hurtling toward them? Yet nobody official has ever revealed that the sign was hit?
+D800Lover The Zapruder film is contradicted by films shot from other angles and it is absurd to think Zapruder decided to "flip the film." A very convenient occurrence just as JFK disappears behind the sign. The Parkland hospital doctors were the best witnesses to the condition of the President's body and they described an entry wound into the front of the throat. The gaping hole seen in later photos is not even accounted for by the tracheotomy. Furthermore, even SS agents described a gaping wound in the BACK REAR of Kennedy's head. But let's just forget about all that because we've got a patsy in Lee Oswald and it fits the govt. story. LBJ was an entirely honest man with no murders behind him and had nothing to gain by becoming President except it stopped pending investigations and he immediately reversed JFK's course in Vietnam and his oil and other cronies got even richer. You also believe in fairytales too I'm sure.
Witnesses over and over have said they heard, BANG(long pause then).......BANG, BANG(two shots close together). No way Oswald could have done two shots that close together. Result two shooters which means a conspiracy.
This documentary (is this the whole thing?) is way too short to cover a topic as complex as the JFK assassination, but Josiah Thompson wrote one of the first seminal books on the JFK Assassination, a micro-study, called Six Seconds in Dallas. He is coming out with a new book in the fall called Last Second in Dallas.
The film evidence we do have is only a small portion of what was taken that day as several witnesses reported having their film or cameras taken by "FBI" or "Secret Service" for copies and never returned.
A large proportion of this video uses music composed by Philip Glass from the film KOYAANISQATSI, but no credit has been given. The killer head shot was fired from the storm drain. P E A C E L O V E U N I T Y
The cracks are how the light gets in. A remarkable artifact, made for the 50th anniversary of JFK's murder and produced and distributed by America's established paper of record, directed by America's greatest living documentarian, Errol Morris. In short, this film reeks of integrity, the very best that the American establishment can muster. And music by Philip Glass. It takes its time with a focused argument, does not dictate narrative, requires from you your sustained, critical attention and in the end reaches no simple conclusion. Or does it? If Trump got to the whole truth of this turn in world history, America might discover its soul. And if not now, when? If Trump did that, he'd have gravitas and respect. JFK was a brave and wounded veteran, a Lieutenant. When was the last time you saw that from the ruling class? At least watch the film in a quiet moment and with an open mind, Kennedy deserves that. And if you think it at all important, why not share it? The cracks are how the light gets in.
Trump was in the Oval at the time. Any president would have done the same. It was not heroic. If he managed to release all records non -redacted, he'd have one redeeming quality. It is not just a president's decision to declassify "national security" documents.
Good movie reference. This is also used in his movie "Fog of War" with/about Bob McNamara. You could put baking cookies to this music and it would be a rollercoaster of emotions and drama, lol. Very effective.
I've looked for information on the driver of Kennedy,s car. Unsurprisingly I can't find it. Conspiracy? The secret service driver of the Presidents car practically for all intent and purposes slows the car to a halt(witnesses have said) just at the precise moment JFK is Fatally shot(the headshot). If you had rehearsals beforehand you could not have had a better place to stop. Right beside the marker, the umbrella man on a sunny day. To a novice gunman this made it easy for him. To a trained marksman the President was served up on a silver platter. Yet we never talk about the driver. If it was a conspiracy people were involved. What about the driver. A trained SS driver should have got out of there fast after the first shot but no.. No, he slows right down at the right spot for the killer shot. Yet knowone talks about it.. Why?
Haven’t you guys watched the z film closely? He slowed because he wasn’t driving at the moment, he clearly turns with a handgun and shoots jfk. Do a little research, geez.
Morris typically edits his movies so that the cuts within interview material are intentionally noticeable SO THAT audiences know that it has been edited, constructed, whatever, and they can remember that they have to make their own mind up about the truth of the matter.
UPDATE: We now know this OpDoc is no longer accurate. The Zapruder film was not the clock of the assassination we thought it was. Thompson’s whole premise is off..by precious seconds. It wasn’t six seconds in Dallas, but eleven seconds in Dallas. “The Zapruder film serves as a clock,” Morris points out. One can measure the time it took for the three assassination shots (one missed) to be fired-which the Warren Commission concluded was slightly under six seconds-and then calculate how long a single shooter would take to shoot, reload, resight, shoot again, reload, resight and shoot again. Thompson concluded that Oswald wouldn’t have had the time to get off all three shots himself and-after working with Life’s copy of the Zapruder film-he published his findings in “Six Seconds in Dallas.” But we now know Josiah Thompson’s “Six Seconds in Dallas” is deeply flawed. He based his conclusions on the Zapruder film being a real time account of the assassination. It was not. Abraham Zapruder filmed the assassination of John F. Kennedy in Dallas. And for 57 years, most people have presumed that his home movie captured the assassination in its entirety. This presumption has led to deep misunderstandings. The majority of witnesses in Dealey Plaza heard three shots fired. Lawmen found three cartridges in Lee Harvey Oswald’s nest on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. Yet Zapruder’s film captured only two shots clearly. As a result, the film has been scoured for evidence of another shot, presumably the first one fired at the president. Research has yielded contradictory findings. But what if Zapruder simply hadn’t turned on his camera in time? Zapruder’s 26-second movie has two distinct parts. Approximately seven seconds after he started filming from the north side of Elm Street, Zapruder stopped his Bell & Howell Zoomatic at frame 132 because only Dallas police motorcycles were driving by. He did not restart his camera until the president’s limousine was clearly in view. Consequently, Z 133 is the first frame to actually show the president’s Lincoln - a frame exposed several seconds after the car had made the sharp turn onto Elm Street from Houston Street - and, we believe, after Oswald had squeezed off his first shot. If this belated revelation changes nothing from one perspective - Oswald still did it - it simultaneously changes everything, if only because it disrupts the state of mind of everyone who has ever been transfixed by the Zapruder film. The film, we realize, does not depict an assassination about to commence. It shows one that had already started.
Not questioning anything you're relaying in your comment other than to say, the images captured really make it APPEAR that at least one shot is hitting the pres from the front and blowing brain parts to the rear, chunks of brain that the Mrs. climbs on top of the trunk to try to retrieve.
@@trysometruth "Not questioning anything you're relaying in your comment other than to say, the images captured really make it APPEAR that at least one shot is hitting the pres from the front and blowing brain parts to the rear, chunks of brain that the Mrs. climbs on top of the trunk to try to retrieve." Did you know that many pieces of brain also went forward and landed on all four other occupants of the car as they themselves said? Did you know that blood and pieces of brain were found all over the inside of the limo, including as far forward as the windshield and the visors? Did you know that some of this material was even found as far forward as the hood of the car?
Alot of people don't know that a young doctor intern (from gilmer, tx) was there when they brought Kenedy in and he held the back of Kenedy's head keeping the brains from falling out, he said Kenedy was shot from the front, hands on witness.
Dr was to an intern but a surgical resident who was 18” above the head wound which he described as being 5” in diameter and located in the right rear of JFKs head.
There are really no answers from Thompson in the above. That said, however, if we're to accept what he's saying - that the films and photo stills tell the whole story - then what the Zapruder film is telling us is that the final, fatal shot to JFK's head came from the *front* and not the rear, where Lee Harvey Oswald was located in the Texas school book depository.
If you read Thonpson's book - his second printing - he concludes that there was another shooter. I think there were at least three shooters, all mob hit men.
Indeed, but people went into MASS DENIAL and refused to see the truth (because it was too traumatizing ? Too illusion-shattering ? It reminds me of the "denial process" of a mother who refuses to believe her daughter when she tells her that Daddy plays funny games with her when they're alone together and the mother goes "DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT EVER !!" Same process. People just didn't want to hear about a possible conspiracy. But the same way that child abuses are now openly reported and no longer hidden, I think people now are ready to face the Truth about the JFK case. Times have changed. Illusions have been shattered many times since 1963.
The old dude had good things to say but too much time spent on him and not enough on the evidence. He refers to all the different people who took photos (and there's a map that populates with all their names), but where WERE the photos, all presented in a relevant way?
As usual, Morris isn't so much interested in the "evidence" but in the personality of his subject. His docs are profiles, not investigations. Look at his Abu Ghraib doc; it's mostly about the meaning of photography, the impulses and relationships between people and the camera. The revelations in his films are personal, not forensic.
greatsajby The Old Dudes book about the JFK assassination has been around for over 45 years, so don't rush into anything. I know it's hard for people to understand that the world exist beyond a 14 minute YT video.
@ 9:05, that's the first I've heard the Life Magazine lie exposed in 50 years, they thought the film would never be seen so fabricated the sequence of the first shot. Interesting that JT says it was meant to back up the lone shooter case but backfired - why not get further into the motive, or wonder why the author of that lie was never held accountable? Even if it was all actually Oswald, printing a lie regarding the president's death should have been seen all along as a criminal act IMO - CJ
It sounds weird. But the bullets came in so close it looked like the bullets were coming from the car. And none of the people on the street got shot. This was an expert aim and it came from someone close.
Errol Morris is living off the rep he built with Thin Blue Line and has been for three decades now. This is about as useful as his misguided Jeff McDonald book, 13:56 of my life I'd like to have back. "Tink" for nothing, Morris.
So what's happening when he appears to clutch his throat? Is he already dead by that point? The car seems to slow down & Jackie looks at him like they don't know he's been shot. That's when the "big" head shot occurs. All I can tell for sure is he's hit from the same side of the Zapruder film & appears to bounce backward, which implies a shot from the front. What that means I don't know because I haven't studied this case AT ALL & wasn't alive then.
jfk never grabbed or clutched his throat , i know at a fast glance it may appear that way . but if you look at close up versions of the zapruder film its clear that jfks arms raised up about chin/mouth height with his fists balled . his hands did not get any nearer his throat than that . thats a reaction of feeling sudden sharp pain , if he had a throat would a natural action would be to grab at it , he didnt . thats not saying he didnt receive a throat wound at some point . as you mention that you havent studied the case you may not know that some 50 people said they believed atleast one shot came from the knoll area which is to the right rear of mr zapruder as he was filming . atleast 10 witnesses said they saw a puff of smoke under the trees there . i dont know if its your desire to research this case or not , if you do and if you have questions or thoughts about jfks assassination feel free to post them here .
That was the first shot where he clutched his throat, & Jackie looks over to see what's wrong. Moments laeter the second shot is fired through his head which is the fatal shot.
US-police had a lot of experience with mafia and the protection of witnesses at that time. At the moment of Oswald assassination 48 h after the Kennedy assassination nobody could know if there was not a conspiracy. President Johnson, FBI, police, army had to take into account, that it was, perhaps, a first step of major attack by KGB and USSR. Or at least, that Oswald has been a part of a bigger organization, for example mafia. Or sth else. If it was not a government conspiracy then the FBI and police would place 3 armed officers at the door of Oswald cell in Dallas police station. None would know the time Oswald was to live the station, the corridors would be empty, none would have an occasion to enter the police station during the transition of Oswald and he would have had a body armor. President Johnson would not take a risk to live Oswald in the hands of the police and would take him to the military base surrounded by tanks and many soldiers. This is the way a superpower would behave after an attack on its supreme commander, on the president able to start a nuclear war. France would behave like that, USSR would behave like that and Great Britain, too. But nothing of that kind has happened. And this "nothing" can be explained in two ways: 1. all responsible persons were mentally ill, or 2. they knew that USSR has been not involved, that mafia was not a danger, that there was no unknown conspiracy and that Oswald will be killed in few hours, because the only conspiracy in case was theirs. If the possibility number 2 was wrong, then why nobody has been punished for allowing to kill Oswald - as I presume? The Oswald widow should have sued the state for allowing the killing of her husband - the fault of the FBI and the police is obvious. That is why I am sure there was conspiracy of at least the government to kill president Kennedy. If there were no conspiracy then Oswald would stay alive much longer, at least to his trial.
Well it was Swedish Boy-origin from Austria and Japan=Mauterndorph+Kobe-Japan0but lives in Sweden born 1945 on 26th of November= called Walther Evert KEGÖ
When a film finally pops up that shows the WHOLE left turn to Elm Street, than a new chapter opens up in this case. Maybe the final chapter. What are the odds that NONE of the films taken that day caught that whole left turn? 1/5876948756023856234857604387 maybe?
I was alive and in the 1st grade when President Kennedy was murdered, and I remember it, and it stuck with me. I have never in my life seen the film of the other woman taking a movie on the other side of the street from Zapruder. To me the film shows a shot from the front. I've shot guns at fruit, apples, melons, cans, etc and the spray pattern to me seems to show a shot from the front. I'm not an expert, but that is what it looks like to me. And then ... how could Jack Ruby be crazy and twisted enough to murder Oswald before he could be interrogated, unless he was shutting up a patsy? I still think after all this time there was a conspiracy. I think it was people in the US that did not like Kennedy's populism, but I have no idea who, or if it was any particular one group ... I'd have to say it was a class of SOB business people, coincidentally, like the people who run and want even more power to run the country today.
If you are able to slow it down, you will see that, the LAST shot, comes from the (back, of the FRONT passenger seat), the (agent), riding shot-gun, stands, squeezes a device, and, well, the rest, is history...
James Files was the shooter behind the picket fence. He was 21 yrs old at the time and was a mafia pd hit man. Go to jfkmurdersolved.com. it's all there!
You probably mean he "tells us nothing we didn't already know about the JFK assassination", and anyway, since he's been looking at it for 50 years, he probably knows a few details that didn't fit into a 13+ minute little interview. I think what is done in this short film though is a reasonably good overview of why the official story is lacking and also why the mystery is probably never going to be solved at this point.
I can see how people were captivated, he was just likable. Young, smiling, witty. He looks like a young boy who was going to pull a prank, and she was lovely. America had every right to be proud. I was only 3 so I don't remember the assassination. I do know that even if you didn't vote for him you had to feel sadness, anger and grief for his death.Doing an autopsy will not bring him back.Let him RIP.
If not done simply out of respect for the man himself, a real investigation (rather than a blatant cover-up) may discourage another coup in the future.
@@trysometruth If things don't ever pan out it is still a valuable lesson to be learned. I consider it to be hope worth hanging on to. But to each their own.
Josiah “Tink” Thompson and Errol Morris got it wrong. The Zapruder film was not the time clock on the assassination everybody thought it was. Max Holland and Johann Rush have solved the JFK assassination by proving the Zapruder film wasn’t the time clock on the shooting everybody thought it was. Oswald didn’t fire three shots in six seconds, he fired three shots in eleven seconds. The first shot glanced off a traffic light pole. The second shot went through President Kennedy and Governor Connelly. The third shot was fatal. The proverbial “smoking gun” in this case turned out to be the most viewed piece of film in the world. The 26 second Zapruder film. For 44 years, most people have presumed that his home movie captured the assassination in its entirety. This presumption has led to wild speculations, wrong leads, and false conclusions. Zapruder’s 26-second movie has two distinct parts. Approximately seven seconds after he started filming from the north side of Elm Street, Zapruder stopped his Bell & Howell Zoomatic at frame 132 because only Dallas police motorcycles were driving by. He did not restart his camera until the president’s limousine was clearly in view. Consequently, Z 133 is the first frame to actually show the president’s Lincoln - a frame exposed several seconds after the car had made the sharp turn onto Elm Street from Houston Street - and, after Oswald had squeezed off his first shot. We now know the Zapruder film does not depict an assassination about to commence. It shows one that had already started. ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD FIRED THREE SHOTS FROM ONE RIFLE AND KILLED PRESIDENT KENNEDY IN DALLAS, TX. END OF STORY. JFK conspiracy “die hards” will forever keep looking at irrelevant, insignificant, and proven falsehoods to keep their delusional conspiracy theories alive. They are cursed to keep looking and wandering the earth trying to find something that isn’t there. I understand the psychology behind their pursuits. Still, it’s sad.
Ivan Radisavljevic Or perhaps you are to obtuse to figure it out. Either way, your conspiracy crap is DOA. Of course, there is a way out for all JFK conspiracy believers: The solution: Is base your beliefs on facts, not the other way around. Think about it.. moron.
I love Errol Morris but in this case--he couldn't be any further from the truth if he was trying to make sense of the events from Mars with a stethoscope. It is sad when a reasonably intelligent man makes an ass of himself like this.
What are you talking about? Morris doesn’t even suggest anything one way or the other. He simply made a short film about the power of pure authentic photographic evidence.
The film’s don’t all line up - when put together one shows car slowdown to almost a stop while the other doesn’t- googles your friend if you want to see
There have been re-enactments that reveal how loud 3 reports would have been in the confined space outside the TSBD. During these re-enactments, the street actors visibly respond to the extremely loud gunshots. There was an analysis that was done on Mr Zapruder and his momentary shaking of the camera, at what is perceived to be an involuntary reaction to the shots. Has anyone done the same analysis for the 11-22-63 street onlookers? Is there any discernable instant when a majority show a reaction to gun shots? If nothing else, this might add to the probative value of the Zapruder analysis. It might perhaps pinpoint the moment JFK is hit behind the freeway sign.
I was on a business trip to the Dallas office of the company I worked for when I was in my mid-twenties (in the eighties). I asked some people what interesting sites I could visit, and they all said “The Sixth Floor”. “The sixth floor of what?” I asked. “The Texas Schoolbook Depository”. It took me a second to make the connection, and the feeling of sadness hit me pretty hard. I did go to the Sixth Floor, and it was amazingly open at the time, in the sense that a person could get very close to the window. I think it’s got more security now.
The sewer and manhole that the City got rid of was remnents of an older neighborhood before they made this park and the claim is that one end goes to the Sherifs building at one end under the building to their lower floors
4:00 ... this is the snippet of film from the other side of the street from Zapruder that shows the Kennedy assassination. Clearly he is shot from the front.
This film said absolutely nothing. It didn't even take a position on whether Oswald acted alone. This smug whiny guy sounds like he's had a few too many to drink and is just musing over the obvious. It's simply superfluous.
Regardless of what happened…it bothers me that he laughs at 9:12 as he talks about “Kennedy taking a shot to the throat.” There is absolutely nothing humorous about this. It feels like he is trying way too hard to make light of the situation and all of the questions that still linger today. It was an incredibly dark time, and that remains true decades later. I can’t help but think that he “doth protesteth too much”, and that his feeble attempts at levity fall very short.
He's right, this case is so cliched it tires people out just to think about it and throws a spanner into the works of the country and reality to such an extent that people just deny the conspiracy because it sits better with them.
The shots heard from the grassy knoll were not rifle shots. The "shots" were actually the sound of a gasoline lawnmower backfiring. A Dallas city employee or the "lawnmower" man told the Warren Commission that he was mowing the grass on the grassy knoll at the time of the assassination and that his lawnmower backfired just as Kennedy's car was passing. He said his gasoline lawnmower frequently backfired because it was a cheap untuned piece of junk provided to city workers by the Dallas public works department of city parks. Also the lawnmower used at the time of the assassination was inspected by the Warren Commission and was found to have a tag on it that read "In case this lawnmower needs repairs contact the Hidell lawnmower repair company, New Orleans, Louisiana."
There are no clear, up-close films or photos of the grassy knoll or of the sixth-floor window at the crucial moment (the shooting). The existing (surviving) photo and film record is not the total photo and film record and is of limited value. We have been given a selective version of the event which amounts to an edited account. I think that we exhausted this particular source of evidence by about 1966, and that no more visual study, however scrupulous, will yield anything.
Some Frames are missing from the Zapruder Film. It does not match all the breaking seen in the Nix Film. The Driver Kept breaking! And almost comes to a complete stop!
It's true we're no closer, and that is writ large in the fact that there is no widespread acceptance of what actually happened. So many groups and organisations disliked President Kennedy, yet his popularity would likely have seen him re-elected comfortably in 1964. Indeed, his trip to Texas, unofficially, formed part of that effort.
@@1olddirtroad He's no hack. This documentary (is this the whole thing?) is way too short to cover a topic as complex as the JFK assassination, but Josiah Thompson wrote one of the first seminal books on the JFK Assassination, a micro-study, called Six Seconds in Dallas. He is coming out with a new book in the fall called Last Second in Dallas. I've attended a seminar by him on that later work. He's updated his thinking on some points (i.e., slight fwd movement of the head, later shot from the rear). The only argument he would get from others is that evidence could also point to a shooter not from the Grassy Knoll on the north but the South Knoll (read Enemy of the Truth by the late Sherry Fiester, a former CSI) - here is an article, enemyofthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/05/30/josiah-thompson-the-untrue-fact/
@@1olddirtroad No. Last time he wrote a book was in 60s. After many years later, he has expanded on it, based on new analyses and information. He hasn't retired off his books. As more files are released, researchers usually put out updated or new books. It's important that the People are informed. So what if they earn money from book sales for their hard work? Bugliosi, Posner & perhaps O'Reilly sold more books on the lone gunman theory (which is a fairy tale but more MSM friendly).
@@d.g.s.4121 Do you know who Dino Brugioni is ? Look for his interview with Doug Horne here on RUclips. Listen to what he says. And yes he is trying to make money off his new book. He is a Hack and you are his apologist. Lone Nutter
Look at at it this way....who has the power to keep this a cover-up all these years later....and who has the power over the government and the media....and who wanted the Vietnam war? Someone who got their foot in the door for their opportunities, they made sure to trip everyone else up and then they used a pine bough to cover their tracks.
JFK was hit four times. The autopsy photo of JFKs back show two bullet wounds, one shot entry, one shot exit. The Z film shows JFKs head been hit two times,one in the back of head pushing his head slightly forward before the other a frontal shot,[ Head explodes and pushed back } Both shots came almost together. His his entire body is lifted with the force of the frontal exploding bullet { Dum Dum } and thrown back violently against his wife. LHO did not kill your President. He could not have made that shot !!! So that blows the MAJIC Bullet theory to bits...
Yup.
Thompson obtained a Carcano rifle identical to LHO's, became proficient with it, and timed himself taking shots at a moving target the size of a man's upper body and head over the range in question (265 feet), as quickly as LHO is claimed to have.
His conclusion: it was impossible to operate the Carcano's bolt-action while looking through the scope, and produce three accurate shots within 5.6 seconds. And LHO was no great marksman; his best score was a 212, which barely qualified him as "sharpshooter"; he was nowhere near reaching the "expert" level.
The magic bullet was dullshit from the beginning. The only reason it lasted this long is because a traumatized mind cannot descern. The the thoughts of this event trigger a traumatic response and those who witnessed still do not function normally when dealing with it. That is why you have a disinterested party investigate.
Well it was Swedish Boy-origin from Austria and Japan=Mauterndorph+Kobe-Japan0but lives in Sweden born 1945 on 26th of November= called Walther Evert KEGÖ
I love listening to his evaluations so genuine and honest
Did you know, the Secret Service only agreed to the motorcade route 10 days before the assassination; AFTER Oswald had already gotten his job at the Book Depository? Oswald must have been psychic 😂
Yeah the CIA DOESNT HAVE THE MEANS TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN..
It was changed the night before.Research who had the power and his connections.
It was less than 10 days. And it was a route the Secret Service 'normally' would never have approved of.
This was the best episode of Drunk History I've ever seen.
Why don't you keep your stupid comments to yourself?
Hmmm.... maybe you should take a look at this interview before you say the Zapruder film was not altered ? ruclips.net/video/J_QIuu6hsAc/видео.html
hahahahahaha! perfect!!
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Are you a follower of David Lifton's research about JFK’s assassination, as set forth in his New York Times Bestseller, Best Evidence? Would you like to support his efforts in completing Final Charade, the sequel to that book? Final Charade contains new and important information which will significantly change the official history of this case. If you wish to contribute to this effort, please visit www.gofundme.com/f/publishing-final-charade-seq-to-best-evidence.
David Lifton told me a few months ago how thrilled he was when he learned of Bob Dylan’s newly released song, “Murder Most Foul.” He was startled to hear Dylan explicitly referenced his original research that the Bethesda autopsy was falsified via the illicit removal of Kennedy’s brain prior to the official examination, resulting in an empty cranium at the time of autopsy. Bottom line: “missing brain” means that the genuine assassination bullets never reached the FBI Lab, and that in turn explains how Oswald’s mail order rifle was falsely implicated as the murder weapon; and Oswald, as the assassin.
Errol Morris is such a good documentarian.
I use to think the same, then I saw FX docuseries _“A Wilderness of Error”_ (based on Morris' book); He's apparently gone all out baby brains (sometime within the last 10 yrs).
just *Fcking bananas* for ever pandering _that_ [there was any] conspiracy
The narrator fails to verbally explain why the Zapruder film undermines the official story. I think I know what he means, but he had 13+ minutes to explicitly state his case and didn't do so.
Agree. I was waiting for his interpretation of the supposedly definitive photographic evidence but it never came!
I guess if he means "Life's Official Story" which makes no sense as their incorrect words accompany the photos. Strange indeed.
Because the film makes it clear from where the fatal shot came from. Why does he have to state the obvious? Anyone who views the film KNOWS the official narrative is bogus. Don't let that mind control lead you astray son, believe your own eyes and ears.
The point of this documentary is not to conclusively say one thing or another, but to continue the discussion of what it means to be an American in the shadow of events like these. These are the defining "tectonic shifts" that shape our nation, and in a way they shape the way our own minds think about ourselves. We identify with the young Kennedy, and so the tragedy hits us in a deeper place. This is us, we think. This is us.
+Michael Aronson TODAY ITS EASY TO SEE HOW CENTRAL TOOK OVER USA....WITH LIES TOLD IN THE PAST....USA IS WORSE THAN RUSSIA TODAY....JFK OUT LIVED HIS USEFULNESS TO THE CIA.... a succesful death made to look like a cia failure...
I'm not sure I care about the interpretation of the history. I'm only speaking about the documentary and the context it has for viewers.
Yeah - not buying it. Where was there any mention of what it means to be American in the shadow of tragic events? I didn’t get that at all.
What I got was “the Zapruder film was not altered, the end”
Read these three books: "JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE" by James P. Douglass, "THE BROTHERS" by Stephen Kinzer, and "MARY'S MOSAIC" (2nd Edition) by Peter Janney. These three books work so synergistically to describe what happened by describing the 'why' behind it all. Be sure to read the second edition of the Janney book because it contains an all important chapter about the CIA's involvement in the death of Mary Meyer.
Hmmm.... maybe you should take a look at this interview before you say the Zapruder film was not altered ? ruclips.net/video/J_QIuu6hsAc/видео.html
I so agree with Mr. Thompson, my grandfather took one of the films he talks about...the Nix film
Well it was Swedish Boy-origin from Austria and Japan=Mauterndorph+Kobe-Japan0but lives in Sweden born 1945 on 26th of November= called Walther Evert KEGÖ
Indeed. Follow you on FB. Very interesting. I think your grandfather's film shows the limo slowing down.
"People continue to go there to think they can figure it out... Maybe you can... I don't know."
ZombieBest I was one of those people and I in fact did go there with my daughter and sadly I didn't figure it out either. Feel I've gained some insight but honestly it was most likely just more conformation bias on my part. Who knows but was cool though. Love the little museum they have set up there too.
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I went there years ago and all I can say is that I instantly had the weirdest feeling come over me. Have never experienced that feeling before or since. Its like I could tell that something very bad happened there. I will never believe that Oswald was anything other than a patsey and LBJ did all but pull the trigger himself
ZombieBest let me solve it for you..
JFK Assassinated
11-22-1963
in Dallas, TX
by LHO.
One man.
One rifle.
Three shots.
Eleven seconds.
Oswald acted alone.
Ruby acted alone.
No conspiracy.
🌹🇺🇸RIP JFK🇺🇸🌹
@John Coppers What'chu talking about, Willis?
Are you a follower of David Lifton's research about JFK’s assassination, as set forth in his New York Times Bestseller, Best Evidence? Would you like to support his efforts in completing Final Charade, the sequel to that book? Final Charade contains new and important information which will significantly change the official history of this case. If you wish to contribute to this effort, please visit www.gofundme.com/f/publishing-final-charade-seq-to-best-evidence.
David Lifton told me a few months ago how thrilled he was when he learned of Bob Dylan’s newly released song, “Murder Most Foul.” He was startled to hear Dylan explicitly referenced his original research that the Bethesda autopsy was falsified via the illicit removal of Kennedy’s brain prior to the official examination, resulting in an empty cranium at the time of autopsy. Bottom line: “missing brain” means that the genuine assassination bullets never reached the FBI Lab, and that in turn explains how Oswald’s mail order rifle was falsely implicated as the murder weapon; and Oswald, as the assassin.
Thank God we had Sleuths like Josiah Thompson to explain this mystery to us. He makes it all crystal clear.
Zapruder film makes it clear where the fatal shot came from, and it wasn't from a far away building at his rear.
"Zapruder film makes it clear where the fatal shot came from, and it wasn't from a far away building at his rear."
Oh yes, when the film makes it clear that the majority of the bloody spray exited forward, that two pieces of his head shoot upward and forward, that his head jerked forward several inches when first struck, that practically all of the visible exit damage was forward of his right ear...oh, but according to you that "doesn't" make it clear that the bullet came from behind.
You're such a child. ;-)
You are 100% wrong. What is shown in the film not only isn't from the grassy knoll, but cannot be from anywhere in front of the car. Kennedy's head moved forward when impacted by the bullet, as you can clearly see in frames 212-213, before either the recoil of the exiting brain matter or a neurological reaction caused the body to lurch backward. By Newton's third law of physics, this tells us definitively and without any doubt that the fatal shot came from behind.
@@jameslayne2985 - Um no, I know what I saw, my eyes aren't lying. You're into fig newtons. Shot from front, put a huge exit wound in the rear of his head. It's not debatable with me, I SAW what happened. Only a dummy thinks that shot came from a distant building behind him, on a downward projectory and then magically turned up to exit out the top right. That would make two magic bullets, it's silliness son.
Dealey plaza isn't very big, the snipers nest on the 6th floor is not at all "far away" from the spot where Kennedy's skull got cracked open.
@@danieleyre8913 - For those on the 'spectrum', Zapruder shows beyond any doubt from where the fatal shot comes from, as do as least 40 witnesses, and it wasn't from "a building" at his rear.
Satisfied Skippy?? LOL
Remembering this event, I think it is loosened significantly whatever grip America had on sanity in a permanent and scary way. It always throws a pall of sadness on me whenever I think of this or am reminded of it.
I shouted out who killed the Kennedys… When after all it was you and me..
Telling words about this nonsense..
@@jacobjones5269 - Thats cute, but lets see if you can 'explain' what he means by 'it was you and me'. How was it you and me son?
@@ghostdance56
Because we killed the Kennedy’s with this conspiracy nonsense.. To the point that’s the only thing discussed when people speak about Kennedy..
@@jacobjones5269 - Did Jagger ever claim that? Sounds like you're reaching to me. The obvious answer is because a president serves a nation, and died in service to that nation. You're very young right?
@@ghostdance56
He was certainly talking about the 5-6 years after the assassination.. The war, the political division.. The anger and violence, and the suspicion..
I think the clear message was even though the man died, we didn’t have to turn away from his ideas.. Which could have lived on..
I have lined this up and it actually works. Kennedy's head was tilted to the left, the car was at this point directed towards the South Knoll, clear shot to his temple and would exit where Parkland Hospital doctors said it did. Would also explain no harm was done to Mrs Kennedy and the blood spatter around the back of the car. What an intriguing thought.
...except the Book Depository was to JFK's right.
Of course it does.
Professional scientific studies and recreations have been completed that refute everything you say. Everything, especially the blood spatter, was 100% consistent with a shot from the 6th floor.
@@KutWrite it was behind Jfk at the time of the shots. Oswald was in a building behind the president at the time of shooting. Watch the films...what do ya see? People are really stupid if they deny conspiracy here.
@@ericg3810 Right. I was saying the real conspiracy theory is the government's fairy tale.
I didn't go there to figure it out. I went there to pay my respects.
......Mr. Thompson, have you ever interviewed the #1 guy at the FBI graphics dept. in D.C. who actually saw the original Zapruder film? He saw it before anyone did on Sat evening & he mentioned that the film that everyone (including you) saw is not the one he saw. His job was to isolate the frames when Kennedy was hit. #313 is the one that everyone uses but there were about 5 missing frames that nobody else saw. He referred to them as the "Pink Halo" shots. That story is here on RUclips.
Absolutely. The film was almost immediately edited. Critical crime scene evidence was destroyed in the limo. Professionals don't accidentally or mindlessly act in this manner. It was the president.
Any link to this video? Can’t find after searching RUclips and Google
@@alecmcmurray9539 I found a share link and YT won't let me post it. I Googled "new york times errol morris jfk documentary" and was able to find a link to the video and article. Hope it's what you want.
Don't forget the missing frames from the turn onto Elm.
Zapruder claims he filmed in one continuous shot, so we have a strong suggestion of tampering, right there.
yes beginning is obviously cut, theory throat shot is earlier from front or LBJ secret service providing cover as shooting starts cussing match with JFK night before trying to get Connally out of limo and said to baby momma “ that will be the last time Kennedy embarrasses me again” and had another back up plan Saturday a BBQ at the LBJ ranch but hardly any tickets were even sold, his hit man Malcom Wallace finger print found at the sniper nest, media said for days British gun Mauser 7.65 used until couldn’t tie to Oswald then changed to 6.5 Carcano with the scope not even sighted. SS found a nearly pristine bullet planted above the back seat of limousine in between the seat and where convertible comes down. Says he placed it on Kennedy stretch, said found on Connolly stretcher.
The enemy of conspiracy is time. Like rust, it crumbles away.
but so doe s the interest by this as MLK RFK will always be a nanosecond ago til humanity's ends as Khrushchev having aired cia/military's blocked peace speech....Bobby Jr gonna try to de-rump dump pump...
The Feds told me that the assasin from Dealey Plaza had a room at The Plaza NY Hotel. He was home alone.........😉😉😉
Everyone knows Jack Ruby was mobbed up with the Chicago outfit. Common knowledge.
He definitely had connections, but it proves nothing. He was even visited in jail by a high-up mob boss. Now, ask yourself this question: If Ruby had just silenced mob hitman Oswald, at the mob's order, why would a mob boss then visit Ruby in jail, thereby creating a link to himself and a conspiracy to the watching law enforcement? It makes no sense. Oswald did it. Alone. Case closed.
@@garrybaldy327 If you ignore enough evidence, you can talk yourself into anything. Oswald didn't act alone. Ruby didn't act alone. Ruby said we would never know the truth and he was right. Ask yourself this question, Who called in the tip to the DPD. No one saw Oswald pull the trigger, Not 1 photo of him in the window. All the videos and all the cameras and not one picture of Oswald. Oswald was on the 2nd floor not the 6th. Oswald shooting downward at a 16 degree angle hitting JFK in the back four inches below the neckline, just blows the single bullet theory away. The Warren report is even skeptical about parts of it and many on the commission didn't agree with it. The only thing that made the Warren report acceptable were Oswald was killed by Ruby, and all evidence was to be locked up for 75 years. Who called the tip in ?
@@garrybaldy327 lol umm what?
@@brettburney9623 “if you ignore enough evidence, you can talk yourself into anything.” Now apply that sentence to your own beliefs. What evidence are you ignoring to believe what you believe?
@@garrybaldy327 That’s utterly ridiculous. lol
How come the police were able to pinpoint Oswald as the assasin so quickly?
Excellent question I can only imagine how chaotic things were and nothing stands out about him at all .. average height weight build but they pinpoint him … I’m not buying it
Brennan was an eyewitness who saw Oswald take the shots, others saw the same man (but couldn’t identify him) pull the rifle from the window after the third shot. He was the only person who worked at the TSBD to flee the building afterward. In normal circumstances you would say the police were just doing their competent job. But in a famous person case, like the JFK case many people have to conspiratorial alternative facts.
LHO was fodder.....misdirection and i believe he didn't even know it.It allowed the professional killers to slip away
@@billkeon880 yeah brennans id is kind of not so good , he claims oswald was standing up which is impossible, he couldnt identify oswalds hair colour, he could see "all of the rifle" but remembers no scope , he testifies that he heard only one shot so for him there is no "third shot" and claims he saw oswalds picture "twice on tv" before going to the police lineup and as you stated he could not positively identify lee harvey oswald. not saying brennan has no use , he sees a rifle at the 6th floor , this i believe and as you say you can add some other stuff to this ( oswalds workers placing him on that floor at that time, the "curtain rod" story , the missing rifle at ruth paines, oswalds actions after the shooting) starts to build a pretty good case but man oh man there was some awful police work done that weekend considering the resources at hand.
They got on to him quickly because he was the only employee of the Book Depository who left immediately after the assassination.
If you haven't seriously followed this story from an honest desire to know the truth then it's likely you haven't got a clue what really happened. I was 5 1/2 when it happened and when my kindergarten bus dropped my best friend and myself off in front of his house his mother met us and informed us the President had been killed in Dallas Texas. We all cried. 58 years later I know a whole lot more than I did that day. I will continue to learn more because I care about what happened that day. I know today that Lee Harvey Oswald didn't shoot anyone that day. It was elements of our own government that murdered JFK. WE KNOW BECAUSE WE NOW KNOW MORE THAN ONE PERSON FIRED AT THE PRESIDENT AND ALSO THE PRESIDENT WAS HIT IN THE HEAD BY SOMEONE FIRING FROM THE RIGHT FRONT NOT THE TEXAS SCHOOLBOOK DEPOSITORY. WE KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THAT ALSO. WE KNOW THE CIA PLAYED A MAJOR PART IN THIS MURDER. WE DONT YET KNOW WHO THE SHOOTERS WERE. WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT IS WHO TOLD THESE PEOPLE TO DO THIS, WHY. WE ARE LEARNING MORE EVERY DAY AS MANY PATRIOTS UNCOVER MORE EVIDENCE AND FACTS AND EVALUATE THE NEW EVIDENCE AS IT PERTAINS TO THE ENTIRE PICTURE. ITS LIKE A PUZZLE, EVENTUALLY WE MAY ANSWER SOME CRITICAL QUESTIONS. WE MUST DO WHAT WE CAN.
I`m of a similar age (66) and I agree fully with you!
Rubin Hurricane Carter is a better boxer than Muhammad Ali.
It does take great maturity to understand that the opinion we are arguing for is merely the hypothesis we favor, necessarily imperfect, probably transitory, which only very limited minds can declare to be a certainty or a truth.
Milan Kundera
But will anything ever be proven.
@@hallsjuju2400 ... To answer your question, "will anything ever be proven?"
No, the conspiracy theories surrounding the assassination of JFK will have eternal life!
Not altered? Why does the limo disappear and the reappear early in the film? Why is the back right portion of the film grayed out? Why do multiple eyewitnesses state the limo came to a stop or came close to stopping right before the fatal shot but tbe film doesn't show this?
I love Errol Morris' films he's so underrated imo
how? hes literally won an oscar
@@J3rryKo Me, too. Morris and K. Burns are the best, ever. Show me the people who don't like and respect him. He is widely regarded as a genius.
Its refreshing to hear someone say so openly that he was also shot from the front. And seeing Jackie Kennedy climb over the boot to grab a piece of her husbands skull is incredible. Thistory. History? R.I.P JFK
The official back-of-the-head autopsy photos in the national archives do not match up with the direct on-record observations of the Parkland medical personnel. What more does one need?
Autopsy is interesting.
You know and are frightened to share
What about the "Majic Bullet" theory. Even by todays scientific methods, we could save countless soldiers lives if we could even invent such a bullet.
He served his country in the Second World War and he's murdered in broad daylight like that. Just a tragedy.
"I don't think any other crime that I know of in history has been investigated with the kind of intensity that this has and yet I don't think we get any closer to knowing what happened now than we were 40 45 years ago." Interesting insinuation.
Perhaps the reason which the gentleman does not elude to is that whenever there is an investigation for example the HSCA it is subverted by the agency
Example being that when the HSCA requested a liaison from the CIA for information requests, the only stipulation was that he was not active during 1963. The person put forward was George Joannides who not only was active in 1963 with the CIA but had a direct link to Oswald via the CIA's support for the Cuban exiles, who clashed with Oswald and monitored him.
He deliberately withheld information of his own role 1963 and crucial documents that were absolutely necessary to investigate the murder.
And this is why we get no closer to finding the truth regarding the murder of JFK, because of elements with the intelligence community and government.
UNIQUE1982 This Joannides was getting rid of documents just before the investigators could obtain them when he learned what direction their investigation was heading in. He was then given an award of commendation by the Agency.
Its like this guy is a self appointed high priest of the assassination. Yeah it was simple, Kennedy got wacked by his enemies and they framed a dead commie.
Yes, very much solved for decades. All this talk of files still kept classified… almost all files have been released, every case like this retains some files as classified and that’s normal to protect agents, families, methods etc. So riddle me this Batman… in the early 1990s there were still a ton of documents classified. Conspiracy buffs demanded their release thinking the secret answer was contained therein. But tons of documents were released and no smoking gun. Not even a crumb. So ask yourself, why keep those documents classified through the 1980s? Because, the usual, trivial, mundane reasons. So much suspicion for hidden documents that meant nothing. That’s what this whole ‘unsolved’ mania is about…suspicion of unknown, misunderstood things.
Unfortunately, Thompson is dead wrong about the Zapruder film not being altered. One can plainly see the back of Kennedy's head is crudely blacked out. I have been researching the assassination for over 40 years, and discovered this fact many years ago, although it has only recently been acknowledged.
I've had the honor and privilege of making Tink Thompson's acquaintance and meeting him many times at Dallas research conferences. He's about as much of a standup guy as you will find in my mind. He actually pointed out a point in his classic book "Six Seconds in Dallas" that he made a mistake on the infamous head snap. That is integrity you rarely see anymore.
Such a tragedy. JFK was a hero of a president, a man’s man who loved his country. He will be missed for as long as I exist. I just hope everyone who was guilty of his death is now dead or wishes they were dead. They deserve a long life of suffering!
Whoever chose the music for this was clearly a fan of Watchmen and Collapse
you would have to be blind folded to not clearly see he took a shot from the front.
My mom was convinced right off the bat, as soon as Oswald was shot, something weird was going on. She claims she was on the phone with her friend watching Oswald being transferred from the jail and she told her friend "they're gonna shoot that guy" and sure enough....but she had a different reason. She thought the Texans were crazy gun nuts. Vigilante justice and all that.
(she hated JFK. He called in the Reserves over the Cuban Missile Crisis and she had 4 young children and it destroyed their marriage, Just thought I'd mention that).
Errol Morris has such an interesting ideas for documentaries, and Phillip Glass's music is awesome as well.
I WAS 8 YRS OLD AND IN GRADE 3, THE TEACHER SAID ,, THERES BEEN A SHOOTING IN USA DALLAS,, EVERYONE MUST GO HOME,, YES WE WERE SENT HOME,, I CRIED ALL THE WAY HOME THINKING A WAR WILL HAPPEN AS IT WASNT TO FAR FROM 1945 , I WAS IN ROUYON NORANDA QUEBEC,, A FRENCH PART OF CANADA,, AND IT WAS A SAD DAY I REMEMBER EVEN MY MOM WAS CRYING , WE HELD EACH OTHER TIGHT,, I DID UNDERSTAND THAT KENNEDY WAS A GOOD PRESIDENT,, AS WE HAD FAMILY IN KINGSTON NY,, GOD BLESS THE KENNEDY FAMILY
The intro got me there but great video!!!
Well done DESPITE RUclips's bogus interjection.
Brilliant! Thought provoking! :)
Hmmm.... maybe you should take a look at this interview before you say the Zapruder film was not altered ? ruclips.net/video/J_QIuu6hsAc/видео.html
We KNOW there were missing frames from the Zapruder film as it jumps just as JFK is going behind the freeway sign. Well, in an oral history recorded by Jackie Kennedy right after the assassination, but only released a year or so ago, she said that just before her husband was shot, she happened to be glancing at the green freeway sign when all of a sudden pieces of it flew toward them and the President was hit. This had never been reported before. But it comes from the First Lady herself. This explains why somebody would want to remove some frames as Kennedy goes behind the sign; otherwise we might well see it being struck by a bullet FROM THE FRONT OF THE CAR. It's pretty hard to impeach the eyewitness recollections of the First Lady. Also, you should look on RUclips for "The Great Zapruder Film Hoax." It's in multi-parts. Some guy has taken the still photos and compared them with the film, and although a lot of it is rather boring, he makes a convincing case that the spatial relationships in the background of various objects and people (including a truck) are not consistent. in the film. They are different in the film than in the still pics, suggesting that the movie has been altered.
Larry Jordan The jumps just before going behind the freeway sign, they are not missing, Zapruder just wasn't filming. The camera used was 8mm film. This was apparently 16mm film folded in two. One side would be used. The spool was then flipped over. You would then film with the other side. The film would be cut and joined when processed. The missing frames was because Zapruder decided to flip the film so that he would not run out of film at the wrong moment.
BTW, Josiah in the above video, worked for Time and actually had access to the original film - the best quality - and has done extensive time measurements - the forward movement of JFK's head can be seen as blur on the forehead of Connally and hence it was camera movement. Also, Josiah was in the best position to examine if the Zapruder film was altered as he had access to the original and every other copy since.
The 1998 Kodak/Zavada test report on this original film has finally put this to bed.
This has never really bothered me - if there was any attempt to alter the film, then THEY TOTALLY FAILED !!!
If I wanted to alter the Zapruder film to hide something, then *I* could have done a better job. The film shows exactly what happened and *it does not agree with the official authorised version of a single shooter*. It proves the Warren Report is a sham.
So the Zapruder film works just great as it is - and that in itself supports the view that it was not altered. Because if it had, *ALL* the evidence would have been obliterated - yet it is still there.
D800Lover Where are you getting this idea that in the split seconds Kennedy was behind the sign Zapruder decided to flip film? Why do we see two motorcycle cops and then nothing until the limo suddenly appears? No film, even in that day, ran mere seconds, so there should be no necessity for Zapruder to have to flip the film during the extremely brief time he was filming Kennedy. If there was no alteration of the film, why were TWO sets of lab techs involved -- and that is irrefutable -- both Saturday night and Sunday night? And how can anyone possibly discount Jackie Kennedy's fresh recollection of pieces of the freeway sign hurtling toward them? Yet nobody official has ever revealed that the sign was hit?
+General Burkhalter It's in the oral history released by the JFK library and transcripts are online. Sorry shithead.
+Larry Jordan got a link??
+D800Lover The Zapruder film is contradicted by films shot from other angles and it is absurd to think Zapruder decided to "flip the film." A very convenient occurrence just as JFK disappears behind the sign. The Parkland hospital doctors were the best witnesses to the condition of the President's body and they described an entry wound into the front of the throat. The gaping hole seen in later photos is not even accounted for by the tracheotomy. Furthermore, even SS agents described a gaping wound in the BACK REAR of Kennedy's head. But let's just forget about all that because we've got a patsy in Lee Oswald and it fits the govt. story. LBJ was an entirely honest man with no murders behind him and had nothing to gain by becoming President except it stopped pending investigations and he immediately reversed JFK's course in Vietnam and his oil and other cronies got even richer. You also believe in fairytales too I'm sure.
The shots were not evenly spaced. You need an even cadence among the 3 shots for a lone-nut solution in 6 seconds. AT LEAST 2 SHOOTERS.
Witnesses over and over have said they heard, BANG(long pause then).......BANG, BANG(two shots close together). No way Oswald could have done two shots that close together. Result two shooters which means a conspiracy.
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You are stupid. ruclips.net/video/ghmY6HmR4fs/видео.html&ab_channel=C-SPANC-SPAN
Why does nobody look at the bridge that the motorcade ran underneath
Right
I like many of Errol Morris' films, but if he was to make a serious film on this matter, it would have to have more voices than just Thompsons'.
This documentary (is this the whole thing?) is way too short to cover a topic as complex as the JFK assassination, but Josiah Thompson wrote one of the first seminal books on the JFK Assassination, a micro-study, called Six Seconds in Dallas. He is coming out with a new book in the fall called Last Second in Dallas.
The film evidence we do have is only a small portion of what was taken that day as several witnesses reported having their film or cameras taken by "FBI" or "Secret Service" for copies and never returned.
What a joke. Maybe the most investigated crime, but also the most obfuscated
Its an open secret. Everyone who cares knows what happened and who is still covering it up.
Thompson, 15 minutes to tell us he knows nothing.
A large proportion of this video uses music composed by Philip Glass from the film KOYAANISQATSI, but no credit has been given.
The killer head shot was fired from the storm drain.
P E A C E L O V E U N I T Y
Not a nutcase, but a scapegoat.
The cracks are how the light gets in. A remarkable artifact, made for the 50th anniversary of JFK's murder and produced and distributed by America's established paper of record, directed by America's greatest living documentarian, Errol Morris. In short, this film reeks of integrity, the very best that the American establishment can muster. And music by Philip Glass. It takes its time with a focused argument, does not dictate narrative, requires from you your sustained, critical attention and in the end reaches no simple conclusion. Or does it? If Trump got to the whole truth of this turn in world history, America might discover its soul. And if not now, when? If Trump did that, he'd have gravitas and respect. JFK was a brave and wounded veteran, a Lieutenant. When was the last time you saw that from the ruling class? At least watch the film in a quiet moment and with an open mind, Kennedy deserves that. And if you think it at all important, why not share it? The cracks are how the light gets in.
Trump was in the Oval at the time. Any president would have done the same. It was not heroic. If he managed to release all records non -redacted, he'd have one redeeming quality. It is not just a president's decision to declassify "national security" documents.
Sounds like Russian propaganda to me.
ohmigod ive never seen that angle of the plane hitting the towers before
The music in this documentary reminds me of the theme of "The Thin Blue Line"
+dong yan I think it is.
Same filmmaker; Errol Morris.
Good movie reference. This is also used in his movie "Fog of War" with/about Bob McNamara. You could put baking cookies to this music and it would be a rollercoaster of emotions and drama, lol. Very effective.
... and "WormWood". He really uses this sound track well.
I've looked for information on the driver of Kennedy,s car. Unsurprisingly I can't find it. Conspiracy? The secret service driver of the Presidents car practically for all intent and purposes slows the car to a halt(witnesses have said) just at the precise moment JFK is Fatally shot(the headshot). If you had rehearsals beforehand you could not have had a better place to stop. Right beside the marker, the umbrella man on a sunny day. To a novice gunman this made it easy for him. To a trained marksman the President was served up on a silver platter. Yet we never talk about the driver. If it was a conspiracy people were involved. What about the driver. A trained SS driver should have got out of there fast after the first shot but no.. No, he slows right down at the right spot for the killer shot. Yet knowone talks about it.. Why?
Haven’t you guys watched the z film closely? He slowed because he wasn’t driving at the moment, he clearly turns with a handgun and shoots jfk. Do a little research, geez.
This documentary has clearly been edited. What does Morris not want us to see?
Are you under the impression that there's such a thing as a documentary (or film, for that matter) without edits?
Morris typically edits his movies so that the cuts within interview material are intentionally noticeable SO THAT audiences know that it has been edited, constructed, whatever, and they can remember that they have to make their own mind up about the truth of the matter.
I’m wondering if this comment is in fact wry humor. It’s good.
UPDATE: We now know this OpDoc is no longer accurate. The Zapruder film was not the clock of the assassination we thought it was. Thompson’s whole premise is off..by precious seconds. It wasn’t six seconds in Dallas, but eleven seconds in Dallas.
“The Zapruder film serves as a clock,” Morris points out. One can measure the time it took for the three assassination shots (one missed) to be fired-which the Warren Commission concluded was slightly under six seconds-and then calculate how long a single shooter would take to shoot, reload, resight, shoot again, reload, resight and shoot again. Thompson concluded that Oswald wouldn’t have had the time to get off all three shots himself and-after working with Life’s copy of the Zapruder film-he published his findings in “Six Seconds in Dallas.”
But we now know Josiah Thompson’s “Six Seconds in Dallas” is deeply flawed. He based his conclusions on the Zapruder film being a real time account of the assassination. It was not.
Abraham Zapruder filmed the assassination of John F. Kennedy in Dallas. And for 57 years, most people have presumed that his home movie captured the assassination in its entirety. This presumption has led to deep misunderstandings.
The majority of witnesses in Dealey Plaza heard three shots fired. Lawmen found three cartridges in Lee Harvey Oswald’s nest on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. Yet Zapruder’s film captured only two shots clearly. As a result, the film has been scoured for evidence of another shot, presumably the first one fired at the president. Research has yielded contradictory findings.
But what if Zapruder simply hadn’t turned on his camera in time?
Zapruder’s 26-second movie has two distinct parts. Approximately seven seconds after he started filming from the north side of Elm Street, Zapruder stopped his Bell & Howell Zoomatic at frame 132 because only Dallas police motorcycles were driving by. He did not restart his camera until the president’s limousine was clearly in view. Consequently, Z 133 is the first frame to actually show the president’s Lincoln - a frame exposed several seconds after the car had made the sharp turn onto Elm Street from Houston Street - and, we believe, after Oswald had squeezed off his first shot.
If this belated revelation changes nothing from one perspective - Oswald still did it - it simultaneously changes everything, if only because it disrupts the state of mind of everyone who has ever been transfixed by the Zapruder film. The film, we realize, does not depict an assassination about to commence. It shows one that had already started.
Not questioning anything you're relaying in your comment other than to say, the images captured really make it APPEAR that at least one shot is hitting the pres from the front and blowing brain parts to the rear, chunks of brain that the Mrs. climbs on top of the trunk to try to retrieve.
@@trysometruth "Not questioning anything you're relaying in your comment other than to say, the images captured really make it APPEAR that at least one shot is hitting the pres from the front and blowing brain parts to the rear, chunks of brain that the Mrs. climbs on top of the trunk to try to retrieve."
Did you know that many pieces of brain also went forward and landed on all four other occupants of the car as they themselves said? Did you know that blood and pieces of brain were found all over the inside of the limo, including as far forward as the windshield and the visors? Did you know that some of this material was even found as far forward as the hood of the car?
Alot of people don't know that a young doctor intern (from gilmer, tx) was there when they brought Kenedy in and he held the back of Kenedy's head keeping the brains from falling out, he said Kenedy was shot from the front, hands on witness.
Yes, that was Doctor Carrico. He was my first doctor, when I lived in Dallas. He never talked about it thereafter.
Dr was to an intern but a surgical resident who was 18” above the head wound which he described as being 5” in diameter and located in the right rear of JFKs head.
Lies. The Parkland doctors don’t even remember him being in the room.
We all know WHY!
There are really no answers from Thompson in the above. That said, however, if we're to accept what he's saying - that the films and photo stills tell the whole story - then what the Zapruder film is telling us is that the final, fatal shot to JFK's head came from the *front* and not the rear, where Lee Harvey Oswald was located in the Texas school book depository.
If you read Thonpson's book - his second printing - he concludes that there was another shooter. I think there were at least three shooters, all mob hit men.
Indeed, but people went into MASS DENIAL and refused to see the truth (because it was too traumatizing ? Too illusion-shattering ? It reminds me of the "denial process" of a mother who refuses to believe her daughter when she tells her that Daddy plays funny games with her when they're alone together and the mother goes "DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT EVER !!" Same process. People just didn't want to hear about a possible conspiracy. But the same way that child abuses are now openly reported and no longer hidden, I think people now are ready to face the Truth about the JFK case. Times have changed. Illusions have been shattered many times since 1963.
Well done
Wish you could show the pictures of the smoke in the air by the grassy knoll...
Pictures say 1,000 words
The old dude had good things to say but too much time spent on him and not enough on the evidence. He refers to all the different people who took photos (and there's a map that populates with all their names), but where WERE the photos, all presented in a relevant way?
As usual, Morris isn't so much interested in the "evidence" but in the personality of his subject. His docs are profiles, not investigations. Look at his Abu Ghraib doc; it's mostly about the meaning of photography, the impulses and relationships between people and the camera. The revelations in his films are personal, not forensic.
greatsajby
The Old Dudes book about the JFK assassination has been around for over 45 years, so don't rush into anything.
I know it's hard for people to understand that the world exist beyond a 14 minute YT video.
if it wasn't Dallas it would have been Chicago... they were gunning 4him
Kinda where it starts
@ 9:05, that's the first I've heard the Life Magazine lie exposed in 50 years, they thought the film would never be seen so fabricated the sequence of the first shot. Interesting that JT says it was meant to back up the lone shooter case but backfired - why not get further into the motive, or wonder why the author of that lie was never held accountable? Even if it was all actually Oswald, printing a lie regarding the president's death should have been seen all along as a criminal act IMO - CJ
I couldn’t agree more.
"What a proverbial waste of time this video was"
-The ghost of JFK
Chevy Chase amen
0:10 LOL
It sounds weird. But the bullets came in so close it looked like the bullets were coming from the car. And none of the people on the street got shot. This was an expert aim and it came from someone close.
There was one witness who was slightly hit by the underpass.
The killer was the driver
I agree with Calculated Callum. If you watch the driver at 9:35 he shoots Kennedy.
@calculated coocoo - barney rubble or fred flintstone
He was a good man 💔
God bless the people that had to witness JFK die and god bless the Kennedy family.
Errol Morris is living off the rep he built with Thin Blue Line and has been for three decades now. This is about as useful as his misguided Jeff McDonald book, 13:56 of my life I'd like to have back. "Tink" for nothing, Morris.
November 22, 1963 - Errol Morris's JFK Assassination Documentary "good looking girls..." weird thing to add unless you're in that generation i guess.
They were there checking out and taking pictures of motorcycle cops
So what's happening when he appears to clutch his throat? Is he already dead by that point? The car seems to slow down & Jackie looks at him like they don't know he's been shot. That's when the "big" head shot occurs. All I can tell for sure is he's hit from the same side of the Zapruder film & appears to bounce backward, which implies a shot from the front. What that means I don't know because I haven't studied this case AT ALL & wasn't alive then.
jfk never grabbed or clutched his throat , i know at a fast glance it may appear that way . but if you look at close up versions of the zapruder film its clear that jfks arms raised up about chin/mouth height with his fists balled . his hands did not get any nearer his throat than that . thats a reaction of feeling sudden sharp pain , if he had a throat would a natural action would be to grab at it , he didnt . thats not saying he didnt receive a throat wound at some point .
as you mention that you havent studied the case you may not know that some 50 people said they believed atleast one shot came from the knoll area which is to the right rear of mr zapruder as he was filming . atleast 10 witnesses said they saw a puff of smoke under the trees there .
i dont know if its your desire to research this case or not , if you do and if you have questions or thoughts about jfks assassination feel free to post them here .
That was the first shot where he clutched his throat, & Jackie looks over to see what's wrong. Moments laeter the second shot is fired through his head which is the fatal shot.
Yep we still don't know who did this
US-police had a lot of experience with mafia and the protection of witnesses at that time. At the moment of Oswald assassination 48 h after the Kennedy assassination nobody could know if there was not a conspiracy. President Johnson, FBI, police, army had to take into account, that it was, perhaps, a first step of major attack by KGB and USSR. Or at least, that Oswald has been a part of a bigger organization, for example mafia. Or sth else. If it was not a government conspiracy then the FBI and police would place 3 armed officers at the door of Oswald cell in Dallas police station. None would know the time Oswald was to live the station, the corridors would be empty, none would have an occasion to enter the police station during the transition of Oswald and he would have had a body armor. President Johnson would not take a risk to live Oswald in the hands of the police and would take him to the military base surrounded by tanks and many soldiers. This is the way a superpower would behave after an attack on its supreme commander, on the president able to start a nuclear war. France would behave like that, USSR would behave like that and Great Britain, too.
But nothing of that kind has happened. And this "nothing" can be explained in two ways: 1. all responsible persons were mentally ill, or 2. they knew that USSR has been not involved, that mafia was not a danger, that there was no unknown conspiracy and that Oswald will be killed in few hours, because the only conspiracy in case was theirs.
If the possibility number 2 was wrong, then why nobody has been punished for allowing to kill Oswald - as I presume? The Oswald widow should have sued the state for allowing the killing of her husband - the fault of the FBI and the police is obvious. That is why I am sure there was conspiracy of at least the government to kill president Kennedy. If there were no conspiracy then Oswald would stay alive much longer, at least to his trial.
Well it was Swedish Boy-origin from Austria and Japan=Mauterndorph+Kobe-Japan0but lives in Sweden born 1945 on 26th of November= called Walther Evert KEGÖ
You really said it right mister..
When a film finally pops up that shows the WHOLE left turn to Elm Street, than a new chapter opens up in this case. Maybe the final chapter.
What are the odds that NONE of the films taken that day caught that whole left turn? 1/5876948756023856234857604387 maybe?
I was alive and in the 1st grade when President Kennedy was murdered, and I remember it, and it stuck with me. I have never in my life seen the film of the other woman taking a movie on the other side of the street from Zapruder. To me the film shows a shot from the front. I've shot guns at fruit, apples, melons, cans, etc and the spray pattern to me seems to show a shot from the front. I'm not an expert, but that is what it looks like to me. And then ... how could Jack Ruby be crazy and twisted enough to murder Oswald before he could be interrogated, unless he was shutting up a patsy? I still think after all this time there was a conspiracy. I think it was people in the US that did not like Kennedy's populism, but I have no idea who, or if it was any particular one group ... I'd have to say it was a class of SOB business people, coincidentally, like the people who run and want even more power to run the country today.
If you are able to slow it down, you will see that, the LAST shot, comes from the (back, of the FRONT passenger seat), the (agent), riding shot-gun, stands, squeezes a device, and, well, the rest, is history...
James Files was the shooter behind the picket fence. He was 21 yrs old at the time and was a mafia pd hit man. Go to jfkmurdersolved.com. it's all there!
So this guy's done 100 murder investigations and tells us NOTHING we already knew about JFK assassination
You probably mean he "tells us nothing we didn't already know about the JFK assassination", and anyway, since he's been looking at it for 50 years, he probably knows a few details that didn't fit into a 13+ minute little interview. I think what is done in this short film though is a reasonably good overview of why the official story is lacking and also why the mystery is probably never going to be solved at this point.
The whole KENNEDY assassination was messed up
I met Josiah Thompson in Dallas in November 2013. He is a great man.
I can see how people were captivated, he was just likable. Young, smiling, witty. He looks like a young boy who was going to pull a prank, and she was lovely. America had every right to be proud. I was only 3 so I don't remember the assassination. I do know that even if you didn't vote for him you had to feel sadness, anger and grief for his death.Doing an autopsy will not bring him back.Let him RIP.
If not done simply out of respect for the man himself, a real investigation (rather than a blatant cover-up) may discourage another coup in the future.
@@432b86ed Based on Jan 6, 2021, that hope's pretty much a pipe dream.
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If things don't ever pan out it is still a valuable lesson to be learned. I consider it to be hope worth hanging on to. But to each their own.
Josiah “Tink” Thompson and Errol Morris got it wrong. The Zapruder film was not the time clock on the assassination everybody thought it was.
Max Holland and Johann Rush have solved the JFK assassination by proving the Zapruder film wasn’t the time clock on the shooting everybody thought it was. Oswald didn’t fire three shots in six seconds, he fired three shots in eleven seconds. The first shot glanced off a traffic light pole. The second shot went through President Kennedy and Governor Connelly.
The third shot was fatal.
The proverbial “smoking gun” in this case turned out to be the most viewed piece of film in the world. The 26 second Zapruder film. For 44 years, most people have presumed that his home movie captured the assassination in its entirety. This presumption has led to wild speculations, wrong leads, and false conclusions.
Zapruder’s 26-second movie has two distinct parts. Approximately seven seconds after he started filming from the north side of Elm Street, Zapruder stopped his Bell & Howell Zoomatic at frame 132 because only Dallas police motorcycles were driving by. He did not restart his camera until the president’s limousine was clearly in view. Consequently, Z 133 is the first frame to actually show the president’s Lincoln - a frame exposed several seconds after the car had made the sharp turn onto Elm Street from Houston Street - and, after Oswald had squeezed off his first shot.
We now know the Zapruder film does not depict an assassination about to commence. It shows one that had already started.
ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963 LEE HARVEY OSWALD FIRED THREE SHOTS FROM ONE RIFLE AND KILLED PRESIDENT KENNEDY IN DALLAS, TX. END OF STORY.
JFK conspiracy “die hards” will forever keep looking at irrelevant, insignificant, and proven falsehoods to keep their delusional conspiracy theories alive. They are cursed to keep looking and wandering the earth trying to find something that isn’t there. I understand the psychology behind their pursuits. Still, it’s sad.
you are dummas
Ivan Radisavljevic Or perhaps you are to obtuse to figure it out. Either way, your conspiracy crap is DOA. Of course, there is a way out for all JFK conspiracy believers: The solution: Is base your beliefs on facts, not the other way around. Think about it.. moron.
I love Errol Morris but in this case--he couldn't be any further from the truth if he was trying to make sense of the events from Mars with a stethoscope. It is sad when a reasonably intelligent man makes an ass of himself like this.
bought paid early witnesses killed other bought of finto perpetuity as Medical evidences prove s as well
I must agree -- a low embarrassing point for Morris. Was there an ulterior motive?
Ask him who pays his salary and you know who's behind spreading these lies!
Grayson Conroy great english
What are you talking about? Morris doesn’t even suggest anything one way or the other. He simply made a short film about the power of pure authentic photographic evidence.
The film’s don’t all line up - when put together one shows car slowdown to almost a stop while the other doesn’t- googles your friend if you want to see
There have been re-enactments that reveal how loud 3 reports would have been in the confined space outside the TSBD. During these re-enactments, the street actors visibly respond to the extremely loud gunshots. There was an analysis that was done on Mr Zapruder and his momentary shaking of the camera, at what is perceived to be an involuntary reaction to the shots. Has anyone done the same analysis for the 11-22-63 street onlookers? Is there any discernable instant when a majority show a reaction to gun shots? If nothing else, this might add to the probative value of the Zapruder analysis. It might perhaps pinpoint the moment JFK is hit behind the freeway sign.
Great point. The sound had not reached Zapruder at 313, yet the frame is extremely blurred. Hmmmmm.
No re-inactment required,people bolted to the Grassy knoll thinking the shots came from there. Back and to the left,back and to the left
I was on a business trip to the Dallas office of the company I worked for when I was in my mid-twenties (in the eighties). I asked some people what interesting sites I could visit, and they all said “The Sixth Floor”. “The sixth floor of what?” I asked. “The Texas Schoolbook Depository”. It took me a second to make the connection, and the feeling of sadness hit me pretty hard.
I did go to the Sixth Floor, and it was amazingly open at the time, in the sense that a person could get very close to the window. I think it’s got more security now.
The sewer and manhole that the City got rid of was remnents of an older neighborhood before they made this park and the claim is that one end goes to the Sherifs building at one end under the building to their lower floors
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...Such a waste of time, this 'film'. I see persons lauding it in comments. I am amused. There is nothing to see here, folks.
4:00 ... this is the snippet of film from the other side of the street from Zapruder that shows the Kennedy assassination. Clearly he is shot from the front.
Clearly not, clearly the bullet exits, not enters, from the front.
Clearly you are wrong.
They were not interested..because it was taken care of
This film said absolutely nothing. It didn't even take a position on whether Oswald acted alone. This smug whiny guy sounds like he's had a few too many to drink and is just musing over the obvious. It's simply superfluous.
So is your comment.
Regardless of what happened…it bothers me that he laughs at 9:12 as he talks about “Kennedy taking a shot to the throat.” There is absolutely nothing humorous about this. It feels like he is trying way too hard to make light of the situation and all of the questions that still linger today. It was an incredibly dark time, and that remains true decades later. I can’t help but think that he “doth protesteth too much”, and that his feeble attempts at levity fall very short.
He's right, this case is so cliched it tires people out just to think about it and throws a spanner into the works of the country and reality to such an extent that people just deny the conspiracy because it sits better with them.
I lknow ..it was a conspiracy
The shots heard from the grassy knoll were not rifle shots. The "shots" were actually the sound of a gasoline lawnmower backfiring. A Dallas city employee or the "lawnmower" man told the Warren Commission that he was mowing the grass on the grassy knoll at the time of the assassination and that his lawnmower backfired just as Kennedy's car was passing. He said his gasoline lawnmower frequently backfired because it was a cheap untuned piece of junk provided to city workers by the Dallas public works department of city parks. Also the lawnmower used at the time of the assassination was inspected by the Warren Commission and was found to have a tag on it that read "In case this lawnmower needs repairs contact the Hidell lawnmower repair company, New Orleans, Louisiana."
The warren commission had an excuse for everything
There are no clear, up-close films or photos of the grassy knoll or of the sixth-floor window at the crucial moment (the shooting). The existing (surviving) photo and film record is not the total photo and film record and is of limited value. We have been given a selective version of the event which amounts to an edited account. I think that we exhausted this particular source of evidence by about 1966, and that no more visual study, however scrupulous, will yield anything.
It was Oswald, and modern computer analysis makes it clear it was Oswald alone.
Some Frames are missing from the Zapruder Film. It does not match all the breaking seen in the Nix Film. The Driver Kept breaking! And almost comes to a complete stop!
didn't know JFK played the piano
It's true we're no closer, and that is writ large in the fact that there is no widespread acceptance of what actually happened. So many groups and organisations disliked President Kennedy, yet his popularity would likely have seen him re-elected comfortably in 1964. Indeed, his trip to Texas, unofficially, formed part of that effort.
LBJ ... he was the man behind it . He wanted badly to be president.
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No, I do not agree with that statement. Lyndon was a good president and I just do not think that adds up.
tink's style of looking down his nose with superiority on all others, negates any facts he has......sad
Well "Tink" at least you got it right about the Zappruder film.
Actually No ...He Didnt....Tink is a Hack
@@1olddirtroad He's no hack. This documentary (is this the whole thing?) is way too short to cover a topic as complex as the JFK assassination, but Josiah Thompson wrote one of the first seminal books on the JFK Assassination, a micro-study, called Six Seconds in Dallas. He is coming out with a new book in the fall called Last Second in Dallas. I've attended a seminar by him on that later work. He's updated his thinking on some points (i.e., slight fwd movement of the head, later shot from the rear). The only argument he would get from others is that evidence could also point to a shooter not from the Grassy Knoll on the north but the South Knoll (read Enemy of the Truth by the late Sherry Fiester, a former CSI) - here is an article, enemyofthetruth.wordpress.com/2013/05/30/josiah-thompson-the-untrue-fact/
@@d.g.s.7699 He is interested in selling his "definitive " book on the assassination $$$$$ Nothing more
@@1olddirtroad No. Last time he wrote a book was in 60s. After many years later, he has expanded on it, based on new analyses and information. He hasn't retired off his books. As more files are released, researchers usually put out updated or new books. It's important that the People are informed. So what if they earn money from book sales for their hard work? Bugliosi, Posner & perhaps O'Reilly sold more books on the lone gunman theory (which is a fairy tale but more MSM friendly).
@@d.g.s.4121 Do you know who Dino Brugioni is ? Look for his interview with Doug Horne here on RUclips. Listen to what he says. And yes he is trying to make money off his new book. He is a Hack and you are his apologist. Lone Nutter
Look at at it this way....who has the power to keep this a cover-up all these years later....and who has the power over the government and the media....and who wanted the Vietnam war? Someone who got their foot in the door for their opportunities, they made sure to trip everyone else up and then they used a pine bough to cover their tracks.
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