Taking all the speculation out, the big takeaway for me is Flanagan's idea that clubs should all be working collectively (pipe dream perhaps) on increasing the development pool on behalf of the general expansion strategy.
Of Course we have the talent. Just look at the players in top 30's that are in NSW/QLD Cup and Jersey Flegg squads every week. E.g: Faalogo, Moeroa, Garlick, Hamlin-Uele, Hau Tapuha. And players that deserve to be in top 30's like Magoulias and Rajab.
I think the safety fears are overstated inthe PNG bid. The public will be very protective of their heros. Anyone who dares touch the players and staff associated with the team will be deterred by the public. In fact the players would be pampered. 😊
For a 20-team comp, you could have five groups of four teams. Everyone plays each other once and their group opponents twice for 22 games each. And then the usual top eight finals from a combined ladder You could set the groups by rivalries or geography (e.g. Brisbane, North Queensland, The Dolphins, Melbourne) so they'd always play each other twice.
In terms of expansion, a soft approach to this could be by using the off-season champions by taking games to Adelaide, Tasmania, and Perth. This would be how the NRL tests the waters across the Barassi lines.
I have said that Adelaide should have a team again: I would demerge the Wests Tigers, with the Wests Magpies returning as a standalone club and Balmain relocating to the City of Churches since another team in Sydney is not happening (I also had a significant finanical incentive be offered for Balmain to do this). As for Tasmania, despite the Apple Isle having a minimal rugby league history, the AFL has a team in Greater Western Sydney, while the Tasmanian AFL team will have a new stadium at Macquarie Point starting construction next year: surely somebody should talk to PVL about this opportunity.
@@MRB16th Tasmania isn’t worth it. It’s a small population and it’s not worth the money to invest in it. Adelaide isn’t a bad idea though. In a dream world I would move the Sharks there.
Ok if we are going to 20 teams we need to shorten the round, we don’t need 24 with every team getting 3 byes plus finals plus international that’s just too many games for the players. Every team plays each other once with certain teams playing twice for rivalries like panthers / eels, roosters / Souths April-June we play 11 or 12 regular season rounds then have a July as “rep month” where you play origin over the month and have the pacific countries play and maybe send a make shift team to super league and have a nrl vs super league exhibition match with players who weren’t picked for origin (note origin is always the priority, if your eligible for your state you must play for state, this would allow other players to play for their country who might not get a run) You spread out the games in July to cover the month with origin opening and closing the month Then you continue the rest of the season till the finals. We don’t need more than 20 rounds to determine who should be in the finals. Then your big international games can be played at the end of the year like normal. Also origin teams selected 2 weeks out from July allowing all the other teams a week to make selections. We not need preseason games scrap them they just cause increase the chance of players being injured in games that don’t have any weight. Love the video boys
That's close to what I have, and we also agree on the deeply unpopular Pre-Season Challenge being removed: with this gone, you could start the season in mid-February. For a 20 team competition, I would introduce promotion/relegation - having 10 teams in the Premiership Division and 10 teams in the Challenge Division - and have a 23-game fixture with no byes: I would also have a window for representative and State of Origin football. Each Division would also have a Final Five. I would also replace 40-minute halves with 17-minute quarters, which effectively gives 19 or 20 games (as you mentioned - I also adjusted the quarters from 16 minutes), as well as allowing for more advertising revenue. For what it's worth, I would also apply this season setup to the NRLW - the Challenge Division would allow any remaining clubs without NRLW teams to enter the competition immediately. Based on this, you have 121 games in each Division (115 home-and-away matches and six finals matches) - a total of 242 each in the NRL and the NRLW. As per what the boys said, I would personally go to 22 teams, giving a 12-team Challenge Division. However, I would achieve this by demerging the two joint venture clubs - the Wests Magpies and Illawarra Steelers would return as standalone clubs, with Balmain being required to relocate to Adelaide (since another Sydney team is not happening) and St. George being required to relocate to the Central Coast (which is an hour and 20 minutes drive from Kogorah): the Tigers, Dragons and Steelers would all be offered substantial finanical incentives to do this. With 22 teams, this would give 265 games (as there would be an additional 23 games in the Challenge Division) in the NRL and NRLW.
Teams that finish the previous season in 1st, 3rd 5th 7th etc play each other once...Same for teams that finished 2nd, 4th 6th etc...Other rounds could be filled with rivalries or another plan...If you last played a team away, this time you play at home...
I don't subscribe to the idea that we can't have a Sydney conference due to it being unfair to the out of Sydney conference. At this stage all out of Sydney teams are travelling every second week and Sydney teams are travelling maybe 4/5/6 times per year. By having a Sydney conference we aren't making it worse for anyone - better for the Sydney conference. So what can we do to make it better for the out of Sydney conference? No Thursday night games, no 5 day turn arounds, maybe even an extra bye week or split round, use a private jet for non-direct travel. Come up with a way to make this work, it will be massive for NRL to continually have rivalries and blockbusters. At the end of 18 weeks have an extended finals series top 4 from each mix up and play a round robin into semis and finals (even a 4 v 5 playoff). Extend the international series to make up a few weeks in the year.
I’m an English listener and agree with Shane about the game dying over here. The people running the game have no ambition and seems to want to make sure that it stays within the M62. The game needs to grow and they take out London and bring in another small northern town in Wakefield. I would personally go down the route if having a 12 team competition with 6 teams current Super League teams. Them being St Helens,Wigan,Warrington,Leeds, Catalan and Hull KR. The other 6 would be London,Toulouse, a team in Newcastle, team in the midlands, a Scottish team and a Welsh team. I would then make a 2 division where the other 6 teams go into with some championship teams. No promotion or relegation. Just spend some years trying to grow the game in these areas and trying something different
i have no idea what you guys mean by central queensland. Ipswich is barely outside brisbane and is not far from the south east border of nsw. There's great players that come from all parts of rural queensland but theres nothing out there
From the outside, Super League looks like a sinking ship. However, for Vlandys and Abdo, who know financials, Super League is an asset with significant unrealised potential. With the right management and investment strategy, they could acquire it at a bargain price and unlock its true value. Also on future expansion: South-East QLD is projected to have 6 million people by 2050. Central QLD will be about 300,000-400,000. Central QLD will never have the population to support a 5th QLD side when South-East QLD is still so underrepresented
@stevvvvveperry Personally, I would have Perth, PNG, New Zealand 2 (Christchurch) and Ipswich, along with the demerger of the Wests Tigers - Wests Magpies returning as a standalone club, while Balmain would be required to relocate to Adelaide (another Sydney club is not happening) - for a 22 team competition in the NRL and the NRLW.
For a 20 team competition, I would introduce promotion/relegation - having 10 teams in the Premiership Division and 10 teams in the Challenge Division - and have a 23-game fixture with no byes: I would also start the season earlier by removing the deeply unpopular Pre-Season Challenge, and have a window for representative and State of Origin football. I would also replace 40-minute halves with 17-minute quarters, effectively giving 19 or 20 games, as well as allowing for more advertising revenue. For what it's worth, I would also apply this season setup to the NRLW - the Challenge Division would allow any remaining clubs without NRLW teams to enter the competition immediately.
@@theecjw2597 I'm glad to see you like my setup for a 20-team competition: with the Magic Round being neutral, the remaining 22 games sees each team play four teams thrice and five teams twice. As for promotion and relegation, the premiers and runners-up in the Challenge will be promoted, with 9th and 10th place in the Premiership being relegated. I also had a Final Five in each Division, which gives a total of 242 games - more specifically, 115 home-and-away matches and six finals matches in each Division - in both the NRL and NRLW, thus allowing for a Combined Club Championship.
The major flaw with your proposal of promotion/relegation is that it will exacerbate the issue of top-tier teams feeding on botbottom-tierams in the competition. Looking at the super league as a direct example shows that a lot of adding promotion/relegation won't make a difference as only 4 teams have ever won the Super League and only 10 teams have ever played in the Grand Final. Then comparing that to just the winners in the NRL era 12 teams have won the grand final. Then adding the indirect example of premier league soccer, only 6 teams have won since the mid 90's I do though like most people agree that we should shorten the competition and add a window for representative and State of Origin football.
@@chevychevans8813 I can see where you're coming from on this. If promotion/relegation is out, then I would have two conferences of ten, which sees teams play the other teams in their own conference twice and half of the teams in the other conference once. Each conference would have a Final Five, thus giving a total of 243 games - one game more than the promotion/relegation setup - in the NRL and NRLW. As another possibility, I would go to 22 teams (two conferences of 11), though differently to what the Roundtable discussed - I would add Ipswich to the competition and demerge the Wests Tigers - Wests Magpies return as a standalone club, with Balmain being required to relocate to Adelaide (NB: another Sydney team isn't going to happen, and I don't want Balmain to disappear). Of course, a 22 team NRL and NRLW with 23 games and a Final Five in each conference gives a total of 266 games: with 16-minute quarters, the NRL season with this setup would be the same as the current 213 games with 40-minute halves.
@@MRB16th I had the exact same idea as well when thinking of how to implement a conference system. Having teams every team play everyone once defeats the purpose of conferences and if we were to stick to 20 for a while I do also see the value in divisions as it could add the rivalry doubles and shorten the season. I also agree that Adelaide would need to be added as the 21st or 22nd. I find the best way to expand in this competition would add 1 “risky bid” (Adelaide) and 1 “guaranteed bid” (Ipswich or CQ) as minimises the risk while also crossing the ever challenging barassi line. For clarity a risky bid I would say is a location with minimum rugby league interest and facilities to help the team start off well straight away and would require investment into said facilities But personally I think tigers is something that is too far gone. If the bears don’t work out in Perth I could see that happening (Adelaide bears) or maybe Newtown could be the Adelaide jets and Ipswich could be the bombers like before.
Should be a draft system Every club picks there 22 players The remaining players enter a draft for all teams to pick there top 30 squad Would great 17th first pick 1st last
Most of nz is a breeding ground for quality rugby talent but in particular parts of the South Island, They’d have some good young boys if they could lure them away from rugby
Love the NRL… and I get it’s your bread and butter James … but your total disregard for the Super league in your podcast is really disappointing. Your podcast could help to ignite interest from Aussie Footy fans in the super league
Perth were not told they had to pay a fee end of story. And they had a good point why would you pay 20 million on something that barely makes money maybe a few million tops at best. And that 20 million should be invested into the club to guarantee its success not the greedy NRL so PVL can dribble about profits it's bullshit. Also Dolphins didn't have to pay a fee? Why because they were financially stable so why would you hit a club on ground zero setting up with a 20 million dollar bill it's proper bullshit to push PNG with that government money into pole position. That's it PVL being a sneaky asshole and not looking long term just the next 5-10 profits while he's in charge. WA and Perth has got to happen for the sake of the game in 50-100 years Also PNG will fail and I'll argue it without issue to anyone. Even the most elite players and coaches involved from PNG are telling them they are not ready and it won't work in the next 5 years. Throw as much government money at it all you want it won't work right now. If they setup pathways and systems back in 2015 when they won Qcup. They'd have the infrastructure ready but the game is lazy and shortsighted it's their own fault that's not already setup because then they would be good to go. But again short sighted PVL bullshit so he looks good saying how much money the games made. And he's hoodwinking everyone
I do not disagree with you about PNG not being ready but this reads like a child throwing their toys out of the cot because they aren't getting what they want. The benefit of the doubt should they have been shackled with 20 million, no but also turning around to the NRL and saying we will give you nothing and expect everything is a very odd attitude when dealing with PVL. Yes, I do understand that the WA government was going to give them some money but that wasn't coming from the Consortium from giving it to the NRL or the league in general, that is something that will only benefit the bid. Granted with a broader strokes approach you could argue that it helps get juniors into the league and better TV right deals for the league but you can't pay off the other clubs with pretty pleases and "trust me bro I'm good for it later". Now if and when you reply just remember Peter could written any number on that dotted line and negotiated or at least come up with a deal for something to give to the other clubs but he chose not and argued the toss about how the Dolphins didn't have to do won't make a difference. Rules change and he knew the rules before he handed in the paper and complained when it didn't go his way.
Tasmania doesn't need pathways for afl. There is no rugby league competition in Tasmania afl, basketball, baseball/softball, hockey, soccer and cricket are all dominant in tassie
People do not understand PNG don't even have junior Rugby League competitions there's nothing. So if they can't even have a U12s to 18s junior competition how in the hell are they going to just kickstart a franchise and expect it to succeed?? Perth were not told they had to pay a fee end of story. And they had a good point why would you pay 20 million on something that barely makes money maybe a few million tops at best. And that 20 million should be invested into the club to guarantee its success not the greedy NRL so PVL can dribble about profits it's bullshit. Also Dolphins didn't have to pay a fee? Why because they were financially stable so why would you hit a club on ground zero setting up with a 20 million dollar bill it's proper bullshit to push PNG with that government money into pole position. That's it PVL being a sneaky asshole and not looking long term just the next 5-10 profits while he's in charge. WA and Perth has got to happen for the sake of the game in 50-100 years Also PNG will fail and I'll argue it without issue to anyone. Even the most elite players and coaches involved from PNG are telling them they are not ready and it won't work in the next 5 years. Throw as much government money at it all you want it won't work right now. If they setup pathways and systems back in 2015 when they won Qcup. They'd have the infrastructure ready but the game is lazy and shortsighted it's their own fault that's not already setup because then they would be good to go. But again short sighted PVL bullshit so he looks good saying how much money the games made. And he's hoodwinking everyone
With all due respect if you are going to discuss restraint of trade and the legality of the draft either do some research and actually understand how these things work or get a lawyer, or someone who actually understands them, to lead the discussion. It is pointless to keep having discussions that are ill informed and where participants do not understand how the law works or what actually constitutes restraint of trade.
@@JakeHolzheimer Great call lets spend 20 minutes having a conversation that is ill informed, ignorant and factually incorrect rather than do some research or get someone in the conversation who understands the law and the way restraint of trade actually works.
@@MrCarrera28 you realise AFL has a draft. A draft is not illegal. For it to come into the NRL it needs to become part of the CBA, this would be a very long process but drafts aren’t illegal, we just need proper frameworks in place.
Seems like a backwards investment from the federal government. Unless the png side pulls a Penrith and become a footy player making factory no1s going to play there. Surely that money would be better off being invested into perth or nz team all the while creating pathways for young png kids to play 1st grade
Great listen, thanks lads.
Good listen thank you as always for the education and learning about the detail of the nrl rugby league..
keeping us fed with content over the summer 🔥
We need a team here in Perth
Taking all the speculation out, the big takeaway for me is Flanagan's idea that clubs should all be working collectively (pipe dream perhaps) on increasing the development pool on behalf of the general expansion strategy.
Of Course we have the talent. Just look at the players in top 30's that are in NSW/QLD Cup and Jersey Flegg squads every week. E.g: Faalogo, Moeroa, Garlick, Hamlin-Uele, Hau Tapuha. And players that deserve to be in top 30's like Magoulias and Rajab.
I think the safety fears are overstated inthe PNG bid. The public will be very protective of their heros. Anyone who dares touch the players and staff associated with the team will be deterred by the public. In fact the players would be pampered. 😊
Easy hostage situation, guaranteed payout
@@CatDarkin go live in Hollywood. 😡
@@tommakire5108 Come back down to Earth
Hostage situations aint a thing in PNG.
The worry would be finances to stay afloat long term@@CatDarkin
@@Smoothkush98 That's because Nrl players don't leave the safety of the compound
For a 20-team comp, you could have five groups of four teams. Everyone plays each other once and their group opponents twice for 22 games each. And then the usual top eight finals from a combined ladder
You could set the groups by rivalries or geography (e.g. Brisbane, North Queensland, The Dolphins, Melbourne) so they'd always play each other twice.
Jimmys on fire this week 🔥🔥🔥
Whos showing Samoa vs England this weekend? Cant find any listings on Kayo, Foxtel or Nine
In terms of expansion, a soft approach to this could be by using the off-season champions by taking games to Adelaide, Tasmania, and Perth. This would be how the NRL tests the waters across the Barassi lines.
I never knew what Barassi line was very interesting!
@@ufconlyfamz69it’s an AFL term that they started. I hate it personally because Barassi has nothing to do with NRL. Should be a name from both sides.
I have said that Adelaide should have a team again: I would demerge the Wests Tigers, with the Wests Magpies returning as a standalone club and Balmain relocating to the City of Churches since another team in Sydney is not happening (I also had a significant finanical incentive be offered for Balmain to do this).
As for Tasmania, despite the Apple Isle having a minimal rugby league history, the AFL has a team in Greater Western Sydney, while the Tasmanian AFL team will have a new stadium at Macquarie Point starting construction next year: surely somebody should talk to PVL about this opportunity.
I assume it's because Barassi played in Melbourne and coached the Sydney Swans?@@B-tr9kz
@@MRB16th Tasmania isn’t worth it. It’s a small population and it’s not worth the money to invest in it.
Adelaide isn’t a bad idea though. In a dream world I would move the Sharks there.
Greasy AFL,are trying to creep up western Queensland. Western Queensland definitely needs a team in the NRL!
Really insightful opinions from all of you. Well done
Head of cash convertors...was he going to pay in weekly instslments...😂😂😂😂😂
Plus 25%
... use the credit for second-hand chainsaw. " like new".
Rugby league rectangular table
Ok if we are going to 20 teams we need to shorten the round, we don’t need 24 with every team getting 3 byes plus finals plus international that’s just too many games for the players.
Every team plays each other once with certain teams playing twice for rivalries like panthers / eels, roosters / Souths
April-June we play 11 or 12 regular season rounds then have a July as “rep month” where you play origin over the month and have the pacific countries play and maybe send a make shift team to super league and have a nrl vs super league exhibition match with players who weren’t picked for origin (note origin is always the priority, if your eligible for your state you must play for state, this would allow other players to play for their country who might not get a run)
You spread out the games in July to cover the month with origin opening and closing the month
Then you continue the rest of the season till the finals.
We don’t need more than 20 rounds to determine who should be in the finals.
Then your big international games can be played at the end of the year like normal.
Also origin teams selected 2 weeks out from July allowing all the other teams a week to make selections.
We not need preseason games scrap them they just cause increase the chance of players being injured in games that don’t have any weight.
Love the video boys
That's close to what I have, and we also agree on the deeply unpopular Pre-Season Challenge being removed: with this gone, you could start the season in mid-February.
For a 20 team competition, I would introduce promotion/relegation - having 10 teams in the Premiership Division and 10 teams in the Challenge Division - and have a 23-game fixture with no byes: I would also have a window for representative and State of Origin football. Each Division would also have a Final Five.
I would also replace 40-minute halves with 17-minute quarters, which effectively gives 19 or 20 games (as you mentioned - I also adjusted the quarters from 16 minutes), as well as allowing for more advertising revenue.
For what it's worth, I would also apply this season setup to the NRLW - the Challenge Division would allow any remaining clubs without NRLW teams to enter the competition immediately.
Based on this, you have 121 games in each Division (115 home-and-away matches and six finals matches) - a total of 242 each in the NRL and the NRLW.
As per what the boys said, I would personally go to 22 teams, giving a 12-team Challenge Division.
However, I would achieve this by demerging the two joint venture clubs - the Wests Magpies and Illawarra Steelers would return as standalone clubs, with Balmain being required to relocate to Adelaide (since another Sydney team is not happening) and St. George being required to relocate to the Central Coast (which is an hour and 20 minutes drive from Kogorah): the Tigers, Dragons and Steelers would all be offered substantial finanical incentives to do this.
With 22 teams, this would give 265 games (as there would be an additional 23 games in the Challenge Division) in the NRL and NRLW.
We’ve had a NRL bid in CQ years and no doubt we will get looked over yet again.
Teams that finish the previous season in 1st, 3rd 5th 7th etc play each other once...Same for teams that finished 2nd, 4th 6th etc...Other rounds could be filled with rivalries or another plan...If you last played a team away, this time you play at home...
I don't subscribe to the idea that we can't have a Sydney conference due to it being unfair to the out of Sydney conference. At this stage all out of Sydney teams are travelling every second week and Sydney teams are travelling maybe 4/5/6 times per year. By having a Sydney conference we aren't making it worse for anyone - better for the Sydney conference. So what can we do to make it better for the out of Sydney conference? No Thursday night games, no 5 day turn arounds, maybe even an extra bye week or split round, use a private jet for non-direct travel. Come up with a way to make this work, it will be massive for NRL to continually have rivalries and blockbusters. At the end of 18 weeks have an extended finals series top 4 from each mix up and play a round robin into semis and finals (even a 4 v 5 playoff). Extend the international series to make up a few weeks in the year.
I’m an English listener and agree with Shane about the game dying over here. The people running the game have no ambition and seems to want to make sure that it stays within the M62. The game needs to grow and they take out London and bring in another small northern town in Wakefield. I would personally go down the route if having a 12 team competition with 6 teams current Super League teams. Them being St Helens,Wigan,Warrington,Leeds, Catalan and Hull KR. The other 6 would be London,Toulouse, a team in Newcastle, team in the midlands, a Scottish team and a Welsh team. I would then make a 2 division where the other 6 teams go into with some championship teams. No promotion or relegation. Just spend some years trying to grow the game in these areas and trying something different
i have no idea what you guys mean by central queensland. Ipswich is barely outside brisbane and is not far from the south east border of nsw. There's great players that come from all parts of rural queensland but theres nothing out there
Will say this. Peter V’Landys is currently negotiating with WA Government and Bears directly. WA Consortium failed and seemingly have been removed.
Poor Ready, having to try and explain the nuances of soft diplomacy to Aaron Woods 😂😂😂
From the outside, Super League looks like a sinking ship. However, for Vlandys and Abdo, who know financials, Super League is an asset with significant unrealised potential. With the right management and investment strategy, they could acquire it at a bargain price and unlock its true value.
Also on future expansion: South-East QLD is projected to have 6 million people by 2050. Central QLD will be about 300,000-400,000. Central QLD will never have the population to support a 5th QLD side when South-East QLD is still so underrepresented
@stevvvvveperry Personally, I would have Perth, PNG, New Zealand 2 (Christchurch) and Ipswich, along with the demerger of the Wests Tigers - Wests Magpies returning as a standalone club, while Balmain would be required to relocate to Adelaide (another Sydney club is not happening) - for a 22 team competition in the NRL and the NRLW.
But then why were the Dolphins allowed to join without a licensing fee?
Because they have a juniors system that can produce players.
@@F00ty-h6b that’s got nothing to do with getting a slice of the pie with the other 16 clubs
UK listener - how long do you really think Super League have left? 😕
For a 20 team competition, I would introduce promotion/relegation - having 10 teams in the Premiership Division and 10 teams in the Challenge Division - and have a 23-game fixture with no byes: I would also start the season earlier by removing the deeply unpopular Pre-Season Challenge, and have a window for representative and State of Origin football.
I would also replace 40-minute halves with 17-minute quarters, effectively giving 19 or 20 games, as well as allowing for more advertising revenue.
For what it's worth, I would also apply this season setup to the NRLW - the Challenge Division would allow any remaining clubs without NRLW teams to enter the competition immediately.
Damn, can definitely see more green flags with all these points 🔥💯
@@theecjw2597 I'm glad to see you like my setup for a 20-team competition: with the Magic Round being neutral, the remaining 22 games sees each team play four teams thrice and five teams twice. As for promotion and relegation, the premiers and runners-up in the Challenge will be promoted, with 9th and 10th place in the Premiership being relegated.
I also had a Final Five in each Division, which gives a total of 242 games - more specifically, 115 home-and-away matches and six finals matches in each Division - in both the NRL and NRLW, thus allowing for a Combined Club Championship.
The major flaw with your proposal of promotion/relegation is that it will exacerbate the issue of top-tier teams feeding on botbottom-tierams in the competition. Looking at the super league as a direct example shows that a lot of adding promotion/relegation won't make a difference as only 4 teams have ever won the Super League and only 10 teams have ever played in the Grand Final. Then comparing that to just the winners in the NRL era 12 teams have won the grand final.
Then adding the indirect example of premier league soccer, only 6 teams have won since the mid 90's
I do though like most people agree that we should shorten the competition and add a window for representative and State of Origin football.
@@chevychevans8813 I can see where you're coming from on this.
If promotion/relegation is out, then I would have two conferences of ten, which sees teams play the other teams in their own conference twice and half of the teams in the other conference once.
Each conference would have a Final Five, thus giving a total of 243 games - one game more than the promotion/relegation setup - in the NRL and NRLW.
As another possibility, I would go to 22 teams (two conferences of 11), though differently to what the Roundtable discussed - I would add Ipswich to the competition and demerge the Wests Tigers - Wests Magpies return as a standalone club, with Balmain being required to relocate to Adelaide (NB: another Sydney team isn't going to happen, and I don't want Balmain to disappear).
Of course, a 22 team NRL and NRLW with 23 games and a Final Five in each conference gives a total of 266 games: with 16-minute quarters, the NRL season with this setup would be the same as the current 213 games with 40-minute halves.
@@MRB16th I had the exact same idea as well when thinking of how to implement a conference system. Having teams every team play everyone once defeats the purpose of conferences and if we were to stick to 20 for a while I do also see the value in divisions as it could add the rivalry doubles and shorten the season.
I also agree that Adelaide would need to be added as the 21st or 22nd. I find the best way to expand in this competition would add 1 “risky bid” (Adelaide) and 1 “guaranteed bid” (Ipswich or CQ) as minimises the risk while also crossing the ever challenging barassi line.
For clarity a risky bid I would say is a location with minimum rugby league interest and facilities to help the team start off well straight away and would require investment into said facilities
But personally I think tigers is something that is too far gone. If the bears don’t work out in Perth I could see that happening (Adelaide bears) or maybe Newtown could be the Adelaide jets and Ipswich could be the bombers like before.
Should be a draft system
Every club picks there 22 players
The remaining players enter a draft for all teams to pick there top 30 squad
Would great
17th first pick 1st last
The draft was struck down by the High Court, it wont happen.
Most of nz is a breeding ground for quality rugby talent but in particular parts of the South Island, They’d have some good young boys if they could lure them away from rugby
Love the NRL… and I get it’s your bread and butter James … but your total disregard for the Super league in your podcast is really disappointing. Your podcast could help to ignite interest from Aussie Footy fans in the super league
Perth were not told they had to pay a fee end of story. And they had a good point why would you pay 20 million on something that barely makes money maybe a few million tops at best. And that 20 million should be invested into the club to guarantee its success not the greedy NRL so PVL can dribble about profits it's bullshit. Also Dolphins didn't have to pay a fee? Why because they were financially stable so why would you hit a club on ground zero setting up with a 20 million dollar bill it's proper bullshit to push PNG with that government money into pole position. That's it PVL being a sneaky asshole and not looking long term just the next 5-10 profits while he's in charge. WA and Perth has got to happen for the sake of the game in 50-100 years
Also PNG will fail and I'll argue it without issue to anyone.
Even the most elite players and coaches involved from PNG are telling them they are not ready and it won't work in the next 5 years. Throw as much government money at it all you want it won't work right now. If they setup pathways and systems back in 2015 when they won Qcup. They'd have the infrastructure ready but the game is lazy and shortsighted it's their own fault that's not already setup because then they would be good to go. But again short sighted PVL bullshit so he looks good saying how much money the games made. And he's hoodwinking everyone
I do not disagree with you about PNG not being ready but this reads like a child throwing their toys out of the cot because they aren't getting what they want.
The benefit of the doubt should they have been shackled with 20 million, no but also turning around to the NRL and saying we will give you nothing and expect everything is a very odd attitude when dealing with PVL.
Yes, I do understand that the WA government was going to give them some money but that wasn't coming from the Consortium from giving it to the NRL or the league in general, that is something that will only benefit the bid. Granted with a broader strokes approach you could argue that it helps get juniors into the league and better TV right deals for the league but you can't pay off the other clubs with pretty pleases and "trust me bro I'm good for it later".
Now if and when you reply just remember Peter could written any number on that dotted line and negotiated or at least come up with a deal for something to give to the other clubs but he chose not and argued the toss about how the Dolphins didn't have to do won't make a difference. Rules change and he knew the rules before he handed in the paper and complained when it didn't go his way.
Tasmania doesn't need pathways for afl. There is no rugby league competition in Tasmania afl, basketball, baseball/softball, hockey, soccer and cricket are all dominant in tassie
Lol yea there is? I play in the opens.
The panel last year was so much better, flanno is good though.
They need JD and Richo back
@@shielsy1 different crew every year so we get different perspectives
@@thebyeround have to agree, way to many chefs in the kitchen here, flanno and woods are okay but guy on far right has the dumbest takes
People do not understand PNG don't even have junior Rugby League competitions there's nothing. So if they can't even have a U12s to 18s junior competition how in the hell are they going to just kickstart a franchise and expect it to succeed??
Perth were not told they had to pay a fee end of story. And they had a good point why would you pay 20 million on something that barely makes money maybe a few million tops at best. And that 20 million should be invested into the club to guarantee its success not the greedy NRL so PVL can dribble about profits it's bullshit. Also Dolphins didn't have to pay a fee? Why because they were financially stable so why would you hit a club on ground zero setting up with a 20 million dollar bill it's proper bullshit to push PNG with that government money into pole position. That's it PVL being a sneaky asshole and not looking long term just the next 5-10 profits while he's in charge. WA and Perth has got to happen for the sake of the game in 50-100 years
Also PNG will fail and I'll argue it without issue to anyone.
Even the most elite players and coaches involved from PNG are telling them they are not ready and it won't work in the next 5 years. Throw as much government money at it all you want it won't work right now. If they setup pathways and systems back in 2015 when they won Qcup. They'd have the infrastructure ready but the game is lazy and shortsighted it's their own fault that's not already setup because then they would be good to go. But again short sighted PVL bullshit so he looks good saying how much money the games made. And he's hoodwinking everyone
So, not too dissimilar from your footy, then.
With all due respect if you are going to discuss restraint of trade and the legality of the draft either do some research and actually understand how these things work or get a lawyer, or someone who actually understands them, to lead the discussion. It is pointless to keep having discussions that are ill informed and where participants do not understand how the law works or what actually constitutes restraint of trade.
@@MrCarrera28 if you add it into the cba what your saying is irrelevant
This show is a conversation not a call to action. If you don't enjoy conversations don't watch?
@@thebyeround You just keep telling yourself that and I have a bridge you can buy since you will clearly buy anything.
@@JakeHolzheimer Great call lets spend 20 minutes having a conversation that is ill informed, ignorant and factually incorrect rather than do some research or get someone in the conversation who understands the law and the way restraint of trade actually works.
@@MrCarrera28 you realise AFL has a draft. A draft is not illegal. For it to come into the NRL it needs to become part of the CBA, this would be a very long process but drafts aren’t illegal, we just need proper frameworks in place.
Leave the Bears in the NSW cup, give Perth its own team. Anything else is dead before it starts
18:25 - this guy has the worst takes
Seems like a backwards investment from the federal government. Unless the png side pulls a Penrith and become a footy player making factory no1s going to play there. Surely that money would be better off being invested into perth or nz team all the while creating pathways for young png kids to play 1st grade
If PNG was not going to attract talent or be viable and competitive, a team in PNG would not be up for discussion.
Woods and flanno really ruined this whole series both aorheads