DEBATE: Can Mauricio Pochettino TURN it around at Chelsea? 🔵 | Saturday Social ft Rory Jennings
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This week on Saturday Social, Joe & Smithy are joined by Rory Jennings & Buvey. We put a number of true or false statements to the guests, and get their takes… featuring topics Mauricio Pochettino, Kylian Mbappe's next move and who is a bigger club, City or Chelsea?
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Rory and Buvey is a terrifying combo for reasonable footballing opinions
Bring Matisse in again, he is perfect to represent Chelsea in these saturday socials
Yeah Rory doesn't represent my views as a Chelsea fan@@funkiestcord67
yes@@Ollay245
Yep, like "get Jose back"...Jose, the guy who historically likes to buy and play with a squad of 28 year olds, he's the one who's going to take a team of U23s and be successful? 🤦♂
That's why nobody enjoys Sky Sports anymore. People without the capacity to understand the nuances of the structure of a club and repeat soundbites are perfect for the job.
Rory looks like he’s had a rough few weeks
Going bald, changing up his look
Looks like? Any chelsea fan had bad weeks lately
Anyone with 0 ball knowledge would be able to still tell he’s a Chelsea fan
It’s the beard!
I was just about to comment this before I even started watching it haha
Damn!!! Chelsea has aged Rory😅
This isn’t a joke!!!
The man is almost 40, what do you expect him to look like lol
@@benlane7282he’s 42
It's a real shame that people like Rory and Buvey, who spout lazy, click-bait nonsense, frequent shows like this instead of creators who work hard on their content and have actually got interesting perspectives and insight
@@steve_o734 Not really, Rory and Buvey have both admitted to taking contrarian views in TV debates just for the sake of the content
Rory even said he took money from a TV channel just to take the opposite side of the argument even though he didnt believe what he was saying
They're basically football media grifters
Give it a rest mate
True geordies burner account
Social media ruins everything
they're entertaining. and what's more entertaining is the uproar over two wind-up merchants bantering shamelessly. lighten up.
The Arsenal disrespect was interesting and I’m a Chelsea fan. They’re a strong side, people need to accept it
Arsenal need to prove they are winners or keep shtum.
They do win a few cups, they're hardly Spurs@@Cymru85
Banter club, nothing else to say.
They were spot on, people are bigging them up too much after one good season. Said the same last year and they got beat in Europe by Sporting Lisbon handily, never mind the champions league.
@@Ollay245not small cups, they need to go big and win the prem also while people call them bottlers they’re nothing like spurs
Rory’s ball knowledge is a bit horrific if he thinks Chelsea was better under Potter than it is under Pochettino
You said "ball knowledge"
That's confirmation that you don't know football.
They were. The stats prove it. Potter had more points at than Pock with the same number of games before he was fired. Mind you, he didn't have preseason or transfer windows to do his thing. Poch had both, and still amassed less points. So how is he wrong?
potter was doing fine chelsea fans just for some reason thought that squad was great for some reason. they dominated games and had no striker so couldnt score
They were. Potter neither got a preseason nor his own signings and had them in the quarter finals of the champions league and better off in the league
They were better under potter, he should have been given more time. Problem is everyone thinks European managers are better than British born managers which is true a lot of the times but not all the time. English managers rarely get the time.
"If I put on Bellingham's football boots, does that make me Jude Bellingham?", God I love Buvey 🤣😂😂
Buveys a good lad tbf to him. 90% of the time I agree with his football opinions…. Well maybe that’s a push .
@@thenutter3927 Buvey did put spurs to finish in a relegation battle.
😂😂
Didn't know Ian Beale was a football expert?
Thanks for having me on. Loved it.
Reactionary melt
I haven't seen Rory on sky in months and this is what he looks like
Looks like he's been hanging round the public toilets again, poor guy.
Chelsea need to stick with Pochettino. Where are they going to finish this season 8th ,9th? Chelsea fans needs to accept this is a long term project and will take time.
10th I imagine.
Enjoyed this show great to do it with rors 😂
As an everton fan I can relate to Rory’s accelerated ageing
Thanks Joe, appreciate you backing arsenal. The way we play now favours us in a 2 leg tie and the way teams play in Europe also helps. I think we are 3rd favourites as things stand
Mourinho at Chelsea again? Another banger from Rory!
Saying going to Liverpool is a no brainer compared to Bayern is the most English biased thing I've heard all year
Based on how early Bayern sack managers, it's not that big of a stretch.
No it's not!
The Premier league is stronger and richer.
Pep didn't last long at bayern and spent years in the prem because its a more interesting league.
@@Cymru85but Bayern is a giant and english people always disrespect their history and their success in european football. Liverpool is maybe the only club that is as big as Bayern
@@joshuastritzinger9012 nah manu is on bayerns level. liverpool is far below bayern.
@@dasurmel1424Spurs attract players over Bayern 😂 you can only get spurs outcasts and you think you’re a big club? Laughable 😂
Hey Rory, is everything ok?
Under Poch we were able to score more goals mid way thru the season than the entirety of last season
Rory talking absolute nonsense again! Literally last week sky sports showing poch win % is higher than potters I think by around 10% - factor in this was before the villa and palace win in the last 10 days. Yesterday took a solid point at city.
Dan ashworth won’t change United alone, he will be provide stability in the transfer policy and help United go in the right direction but he’s just a small part of the changes needed.
buvey really called the porto defeatl😂😂
Matisee so clear of Rory
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Thank you Joe for being the only one with an objective view. Arsenal are playing well and have a very good chance if the draw is favorable. They use the past of Arsenal as a bad thing but this is a completely different team. Also every team hasn't won it before at some point this obsession with "experience" and "winning it before" is over rated its a new group of players each season. Rory needs to worry about making the conference league before speaking again.
“We’re as insignificant as Blackburn Rovers” but City won the Fa Cup before Chelsea were even created as a football club 🤣 We were yo-yoing up and down the football pyramid for decades and still were more successful i.e. won more top division league titles than Chelsea before both our teams got taken over.
Now in present day, if Rory thinks we’ll do the treble again, by end of the season we’ll have collected more silverware than them in total so by literal definition, we will be a more successful club 😂
And Man City had more league titles than Chelsea before the turn of the century😂😂
Also City are actually older than Chelsea, won trophies waaay before Chelsea, had more trophies than Chelsea pre both takeovers. The only reason that Chelsea are considered a "bigger club" is because they ahd their takeover earlier and people got acustomed to it. Plus there were no real financial regulations in football at the time to limit spending.
Rory just described Chelsea in that sentence. A nothing club before the money came in. Won a couple of cups inthe late 90s and thats about it.
Rory being the face of Chelsea .. puts a terrible impression on Chelsea fans
Can't help but feel like every show, Joe proves himself as the most level headed, knowledgable person on these shows.
I genuinely believe Rory has 0 idea what he’s talking about. I’m a Chelsea fan and this a clear project that poch is working on. Half a season to judge a manager is harsh.
And saying to bring back Jose is just dumb. Glad he has 0 influence on my club
Of course he can…just needs to spend another billion first!
Why when they are talking about the possibility of city winning back to back trebles does know mention Liverpool in the league or FA cup
Why is Rory trying to look like Graham Potter?
Rory is shockingly loud for someone so wrong
I am a United fan but I felt the Arsenal analysis seemed harsh!
Good to see Smithy back, as well as Buvey & Rory.
Mourinho with that squad!!!!!
Rough night bruv????
Must be cuz you’re off ur Rocker!!!
dont understand why people keep overlooking inter in the ucl this year, theyre in incredible form. I'd have them as second or third most likely to win after Man City
Maybe the 3rd biggest club in West London lol
Wenger wants to replaced throw ins with kick ins. Dunno about you but I like that 😂
Probably because Delap still haunts him to this game
I saw rory in the thumbnail instantly had my head in my hands.
Rory is right unfortunately. La Liga really has fallen off
buvey and rory. there we go, actual entertaining guests
Has Rory's bird left him? State of the lad!
It’s like Rory finds a new phrase every week and then has to repeat it over and over. This week it’s ’the office of…’
I like graham potter, oops Rory being so animated 😂
Rory in his smeagle cosplay
Shouldn't it be 'Agree or Disagree'
Buvey weren't wrong about Arsenal stumbling against Porto...
Buvey talks more sense than Rory when talking about Chelsea. How can you think Jose would be the man to come in and take a group of young kids forward when the bloke is well past his best?
Arsenal can give City and Real Madrid a good game, not saying they’ll win, but they won’t lose 10-2 like they did 10 years ago
Forest and Everton points deduction could help Lutton
my question is which league produces the most ballon dors? its la liga and to add they win most champions leagues
Rory’s shout for getting Brentford out of the prem is the best thing he’s ever. Pointless club get clubs like Sunderland, Wednesday, Leeds, Albion and Blackburn back up
Rory stop talking about Chelsea
I'm loving how Man United fans are sticking up for Arsenal these days. Cheers Joel 🔴⚪
rory in the title and not buvey is crazy
COME ON THE TOWN! The love we are getting now compared to the abuse we were getting before the season is unreal......love it
Chelsea vs City overall-
League Titles- City win
FA Cups- Chelsea win
EFL Cups- City Win
Champions Leagues- Chelsea Win
Trophies Overall- Draw
So it’s very close. City have also had iconic achievements, like the Centurions, Domestic Treble, and The Treble last season..?
I think right now Chelsea just edge it, but give it a couple more years and City overtake them
Jose Mourinho would be a stupid appointment if Chelsea were to do it. They correctly wouldn't though. Mourinho and Conte belong in the Serie A. Most fans don't want that style of football anyway.
Rory doesn’t listen to an argument LOL Joe would state a fact and Rory just ignores it and says what he wants to say 🤦🏽♂️
Oh hell no not Jose mourinho that’s not gonna work poch is the man for the job give him time but not mourihno
oh God, Rory has put the mockers on it for Kane.
coming in to manage liverpool now is the best time to come in and manage them in the last 30 years maybe. We have young players throughout the team, In the next 3/4 years we only need to replace alisson, van dijk, robertson and salah so having to sign one player a every summer for the first few years it’s a perfect situation. Obviously the other jobs he’s been linked with are bayern and madrid, bayern could be a good move but unless he wins the UCL it’s just seen as an average thing bayern winning the league then for madrid yes the teams great now but imagine it in 3/4 years, it’ll be better to manage madrid in 4 years time so he may aswell go liverpool now whilst everything’s set up for him then he can go succeed ancelotti or whoever in a few years at madrid
Rory looking Propa Chels.
still waiting for a video thats not about the big 6
Buvey was right about Arsenal after all... 🤣
who sent Rory the ‘Dress up as David Brent’ memo? 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Potter needs an apology
He finally admitted potter was doing better than poch is! Been waiting months and months for this!
@@hyywe240it’s Rory, he treats managers like a new cod game, every time a new one comes in he shows favouritism to the old one
What if Real Madrid came knocking after Carlo leaves? Wouldn’t Xabi also be unable to refuse such pedigree considering the player he was for them?
Rory need to consult his doctor....
How on earth will compare footwork potter to Poch.
Poch is doing great work,
Rory might be the most emotional fan I've ever seen, such a hard watch.
Rory must be a genius, because the only way to consistently have the wrong answer in football is to know the right one and do the opposite
Alonso should stay at Bayer and wait for Madrid
And Mbappe's potential has been fulfilled, his ego being satisfied is a different story though
Exactly! Mbappe has been smashing it in Ligue1 and at two World Cups!!
why are people inviting Rory at these shows? he makes Buvey look like Petr Cech
The only reason Buvey gets on this show is because there is literally noone else
Buvey and Rory? You're alright thanks 😂
The Bayern shout isn't entirely fair from Buvey imo. Bayern aren't worse with Kane, they're just playing like entitled kids. There's barely any heart or effort from people other than Kane.
They play as if they're just going to win regardless. It's why there playing some of the worst football we've seen them play and they're still only a few points behind one of the best seasons in Bundesliga history.
W/o Kane, it'd be scary how low they'd be. They might've missed the champions league spots.
The way people disrespect Arsenal is insane to me. They didn't win the league last year? Yeah, but they shouldn't even be in contention in the first place. They've beat Man City and Liverpool this season already and are in great form. Getting to a semi-final of the UCL it's perfectly plausible
I'm genuinely convinced Thomas Frank or Gary O'Neil are more likely to get a tune out of this Chelsea side than Jose. Quite frankly hiring Jose might be a worse decision than spending a billion yet still being a mid-table side.
The whole "Bayern were in this position last season" is ignoring the fact that Bayer this season are MUCH better than either Dortmund or Bayern were last season.
Bad take on the first question. This is a big signing for Utd.
I think they've missed the point with the blue cards. Dissent and disrespect towards referees is a huge problem at grassroots level and there is massive turnover in referees because often they have to deal with threats and violence. In the trials it has been shown that blue cards resulted in 38% less dissent. I think it is actually a decent idea for amateur level and juniors.
i think rory is honestly such a nostalgia merchant. Poch has been our best manager since tuchel, yes he has questionable tactics at times but with such a young group of players you need to experiment to get the best out of them. Mourinho as much as he's chelseas greatest manager is stale and his style is way out of date. Howe is not a fair comparison as he had nowhere near the expectations/ pressure poch does and ange isn't either since the spurs team he inherited was not in the shambles the chelsea poch inheritied was. Saying our best result was a draw against liverpool is actually mental considering both city games this season. Poch being sacked is a conversation for this time next year not right now. And, if you don't think rory is a nostalgia merchant remember when he tried to put dennis wise in a chelsea all time 11.
Why doesn’t Rory just get behind his team like most Chelsea supporters
Throw ins are as waste of time as
As an Arsenal supporters I agree with Joe....we ll be going far in CL if we don t meet City
I think the immediate best option is for alonso to go Liverpool but the best for his career would be to do 2/3 years at Bayern build his reputation and then take the Madrid job after ancelotti
I was excited to watch this until I heard Buvey’s voice, then I stopped.
Always disliked Cheatski, Rory makes me hate them
Lol. I'm a Chelsea fan but I can't stand Rory so can't argue with you there 🤣
Jose is a fair weather manager. Hes proven again and again ,including at chelsea, when things go wrong he cant fix it. He is not a steady the ship manager which is what freefall chelsea need right now.
These are the best guests, last couple weeks have been shite
Did Buvey just compare Man City in Europe to realise Madrid in Europe? No where near the name level
"Other fans celebrate silverware, you celebrate Dan Ashford". For once Rory is spot on.
Mourinho not known for working with young players is a myth . The media saying something over and over can real control s narrative mourinho a team are the youngest premier league champions. The captain of the side was 24
There is no challenge in PL. it’s only City in that league rn.
As a Chelsea fan, agree with Rory. Poch is not good enough. Man city and Liverpool are going to crush us
The team already looks so good under Pochitino unless one refuses to understand
"Do you think Abu Dhabi buying City will lead to trophies?" its on that level of change of the entire infrastructure bringing in actual footballing executives rather than Glazer banker mates.
United have operated with 2 hands behind their back. Walked in and took one of little city's top guys without even trying.
No sporting director or CEO can change, how incompetent the owners are.
@@Takkks If the owners step away and let SJR and Ineos actually run the club like a football club then the whole thing changes. I don't think people even remotely understand how badly run United is.
@@Nightsu Hence SJR has less part of the club, he won't have as much freedom, and he can't go against the Glazers. United won't win the league, if the Glazers are there.
@@Takkks He has total footballing control and now has big influence in commercial decisions too. Its huge steps forward, he needs to clean the entire club out before building.
I would choose Bayern over Liverpool any day of the week
If Man City wins back to back trebles, Pep has to go down as the greatest manager ever
if mbappe joins the premier league it can only be 2 teams, liverpool or arsenal. He wouldn’t join city because Haaland is there, he won’t join man u or chelsea cus their teams aren’t good enough and they won’t have UCL football so there’s only 2 options. Unfortunately liverpool probably won’t be able to afford him unless we sold salah so that’s unlikely, also we’ll have a new manager so there’s no guarantee we’ll be competing for the league, then for arsenal they’ve never won the UCL and there’s no guarantee they compete for the league or UCL so it’s a risk again. Essentially the only top option is real madrid or liverpool if they sell salah
What th was that american accent from Buvey at 15:25 mark 😂😂